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Home » Dossier » Visa Thailand » Immigration information letter » TB Immigration Information Letter No. 030/21: Austrian Consul
Reporter: Gilbert Pattyn
I would like to inform you that the Austrian embassy in Pattaya no longer cooperates with the Belgian federal government. Previously, you could go there as a Belgian for legalization of (income) signature for the extension of your visa. The Consul told me personally. They still work with other countries!
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For your information. Not an Embassy but a Consulate.
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A completely understandable decision that stems directly from the Belgian decision to terminate the issuance of the affidavit.
Is it still possible for "Prove of Life"?
Dear Patrick,
you really don't need a consulate or embassy for a life certificate, required for the Belgian pension service. The Belgian pension service really doesn't make a fuss about this. It can be stamped by just about any THAI government agency…. hospital-police-town hall (tessabaan)…..I have had this stamped for years at the tessabaan where I live. I scan it and then send it by email as a PDF to the pension service. No problem.
The embassy continues to issue it.
“From 01.07.21 legalization will take place - on presentation of the necessary supporting documents. However, the legalizations carried out by the Embassy will systematically mention the following: “This legalization only concerns the signature of Mr. …or Ms. … and in no way prejudges the accuracy of the information mentioned therein”. This change will also be officially communicated to the relevant Thai authorities.”
It is actually incomprehensible that you have to submit the necessary evidence, but that it will not be checked in the end.
https://www.thailandblog.nl/dossier/visum-thailand/immigratie-infobrief/tb-immigration-info-brief-021-21-nieuwsbrief-belgische-ambassade-m-b-t-het-income-affidavit/
Dear Cornelius,
Then you are not aware of the further evolution.
Today we heard from Eddy Bull of Vlamingen in de Wereld that after starting a petition list among Belgians, an affidavit will be delivered by the Belgian Embassy in the future.
Greetings.
Gino.
So then we are obliged to go to Bangkok to get that income statement of my pension legalized or whatever you call it? In other words, what could have happened before at the Austrian consulate in Pattaya. Well done Belgian state or whoever, congratulations for making it even more complicated for the pensioners.
You can also do it by post like me. You don't have to go to Bangkok.
Cornelius CORRECTION!
The Belgian Consulate has WITHDRAWN its decision to terminate the issuance of the affidavit!
So you will still be able to obtain an affidavit upon presentation of the necessary supporting documents.
I apparently missed that, but that would mean good news for the Belgians in Thailand.
https://www.thailandblog.nl/dossier/visum-thailand/immigratie-infobrief/tb-immigration-info-brief-021-21-https://www.thailandblog.nl/wp-content/themes/thailand/images/submit.gifnieuwsbrief-belgische-ambassade-m-b-t-het-income-affidavit/
https://www.thailandblog.nl/dossier/visum-thailand/immigratie-infobrief/tb-immigration-info-brief-021-21-nieuwsbrief-belgische-ambassade-m-b-t-het-income-affidavit/
It's just a question of whether immigration will still accept the affidavit? In any case, we have been working on the monthly deposits to the Thai bank for at least 3 months. Problem prevention
Indeed.
And if a transitional period of one year is added, that in itself is not a problem.
Gives everyone the chance to adjust to that.
But usually that's not the case and it's something that was decided between the soup and the chips the day before.
You better be prepared for such whims.
It is indeed sad to note that it is becoming increasingly difficult for us pensioners abroad.
A Belgian embassy in Bangkok, yes there is, but for the simplest transactions you have to draw your plan. It is exactly as if they want to punish us for deciding to leave our Homeland.
And then we will not mention the ridiculous rules imposed by the immigration authorities in Thailand. Apparently we are good to spend our money here. Fortunately I can place all this a bit because it would make a person despondent.
Thailand's visa laws are adapting to persistent attempts by some visa applicants to circumvent the law.
I note that “corruption” is not exclusively “Thai”!
So we often owe all those so-called “rules” to ourselves.
Dear Roger,
can we also know what those 'ridiculous rules' are?
-that you have to prove that you can hold up your own pants? And don't tell me that those amounts are extremely high.
-that you must report this if you move (you must also do this in your home country)
-that you have to report every 90d that you still live there…. you don't even have to move if you wish: can be done by post, can be done via the internet, can even be done by someone else
-that you have to apply for an extension of residence every other year: yes, that is also bad: go to immigration once a year and, if you have things in order, you will be rid of it in no time.
I wonder what's funny about all this.
Well Lung Addie,
All in all, it gives me the impression that the Thai government suffers from paranoia. But more governments are suffering from this nowadays.
that the Thai government suffers from paranoia: can you also give a few examples why you think this? I can learn something. but after all, that has nothing to do with the fact that the immigration rules are 'ridiculous'.
Limiting myself to immigration rules:
You yourself already mention the notification that the non-immigrant has to make every 90 days. The Thai government apparently assumes that the non-immigrant will not make the mandatory notification of a move.
If the non-immigrant stays for more than 24 hours outside the province of residence, the accommodation provider is obliged to report this to the immigration office(s) of the other province(s).
In addition, suggestions are made at set times to monitor the activities of the non-immigrant. Remember the idea of being required to fill out a list of questions about your social media accounts, vehicles, etc.?
In any case, it gives me the impression that people are overly suspicious.
And an example of a ridiculous requirement (for admission to Thailand): a statement from the insurer in which absolute maximum amounts of health insurance cover must be stated, while the insurer is not allowed to give them, because there is no maximum reimbursement of medical expenses.
I – relatively new to you in Thailand – did not expect to be able to clarify anything for you in this area.
Correct it anyway
1. “If the non-immigrant stays for more than 24 hours outside the province of residence, the obligation on the host to report this to the immigration office(s) of the other province(s).
It is not up to the host to report that a non-immigrant is staying in another province. In principle, he cannot know where he is staying or whether that is in another province.
The accommodation provider must only report an arrival, not a departure.
Only a move from a permanent address must be reported by the foreigner himself.
2. "Fill in the list with questions about your social media accounts, vehicles, etc.?" It didn't last long and was removed.
3. “a statement from the insurer stating absolute maximum amounts of health insurance cover”.
Maximum amounts are never requested. If amounts are requested, these are minimum amounts for which you are insured (100 dollars, and/or 000/40 baht out/in patient.) More is always allowed.
paranoia: delusion of persecution
I don't see any example of that here.
- 'The Thai government apparently assumes that the non-immigrant will not make the mandatory notification of a move':. If you knew how many farangs do not live at the specified address, you would be shocked. Paranoia???
-'If the non-immigrant stays for more than 24 hours outside the province of residence, the obligation on the host to report this to the immigration office(s) of the other province(s)' : you are well behind because this is abolished several years ago. This is only necessary if you have left the country and are returning. Paranoia???
-'Do you remember the idea of being required to fill out a list of questions about your social media accounts, vehicles, etc.?': I certainly remember that. But that hasn't happened for several years now. That was also in the context of a study into the customs of foreigners in Thailand. You can call it a kind of study. Paranoia???
-'a statement from the insurer in which absolute maximum amounts of medical expenses must be stated, while the insurer is not allowed to provide these, because no maximum reimbursement of medical expenses has been set. Ridiculous? It can hardly be expected from the Thai government that they know the 'ridiculous' rule in the Netherlands not to be able to give figures. By the way, this requirement only applies to newcomers and not to people who live here permanently. Those who live here permanently no longer have health insurance in the Netherlands, unless they take out private health insurance there themselves, and they usually provide those figures.
And NO you have taught or clarified NOTHING to me.