TB Immigration information letter 002/19 – New control measure “Thai marriage” at immigration Bangkok
A new control measure has been introduced when applying for a “Thai marriage” year extension at Immigration Bangkok (Chaeng Wattana).
When applying for a year extension on the basis of "Thai marriage", one can prove the financial requirements with, among other things, a bank amount of 400 Baht. This amount must then officially be in the bank account for 000 months (play it safe and take three months if possible) on the day of application. One will then usually first obtain an “Under consideration stamp” of 2 days. This gives immigration time to make the necessary investigations. After 30 days, and if there are no problems, the final annual extension is obtained. So much for the normal course of events.
The new rule is now that when collecting your final year extension, an update of the bank book must also be shown, which shows that the amount of 400 Baht is still on it.
It is not a rule that is prescribed somewhere in a regulation, but a local measure. Such a measure may also apply in other offices, or may be introduced.
Lung Addie already confirmed that it has also been applicable at Immigration Chumphon for a long time.
So inform yourself in good time at your local immigration office in order not to be faced with surprises when collecting your stamp.
And let us know if it also applies in your local office or not.
Source: Thaivisa readers letter
Author: RonnyLatYa
Applied for visa here in Phuket yesterday with the 400,000 baht back March 8 for the stamp for 11 months.
nothing reported about bank book.
Nico
Thanks, someone who responds to the topic itself.
When demonstrating 800.000thbt when granting the visa, a statement from the “head office” of the bank in Bangkok was also always required, on top of the copies of the bank book. Immi Ubon.I assume that with this extra check after 3 months that statement is also necessary, or would just copying the bank book be sufficient. Experience with this already?
This is about a “Thai marriage” and not about “Retired”.
That's clear, I thought.
And for a bank amount, a bank letter is always required. Any bank amount.
This is an additional control measure for "Thai marriage" and for "Thai Marriage" nothing has changed in the regulations.
Klaas brings up 4 x nonsense in 2 lines: he says that an extra check will take place after 3 months. And that the bank head office always issues the statement.
It deviates from the Thai Marriage theme, where 400k is sufficient; he is going to talk about 800 thousand thb, so about a retirement extension, and inserts a new incorrect element: checking this amount after 3 months.
No wonder misunderstandings arise.
The possibility of responding and discussing is far too wide, (e.g. the same recurring questions over and over again, and not sticking to the theme.) Keep it limited to the announced provision of information, and only let the answer to your question to experiences in someone's local office regarding the point you raised.
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Dear Klaas,
even though this question is not about a 'Thai marriage' extension but about a retirement I can tell you:
the bank statement letter does not have to come from the head office in Bangkok but, to my knowledge, is accepted everywhere from the bank's local office. Whether three months after the extension a new bank statement letter will have to be added is a question that I asked on Monday during a meeting with the immigration superior in Chumphon and which remained unanswered because they themselves do not yet know the implementation modalities and are waiting for further information. instructions. Ronny was already informed of this by me. Wait for further information.
Dear Ronnie,
I have followed with interest the discussion and the story on this blog, ever since you announced that some minor changes would occur as of March when applying for an extension of, for example, a retirement stay. I have to say that I respect all the effort, time and work you put into answering questions and correcting comments. You definitely deserve many compliments for this. Perhaps the Editorial Staff of Thailandblog can think about the possibility of allowing us readers and information users to make a small contribution. Perhaps Lung Addie, with whom you have more frequent contact, knows what kind of present you like.
Now that you have come up with another good initiative, I'm so bold as to give you some tips to streamline all the sometimes confusing information.
Most importantly: you say that you want to put together information letters if the “Immigration” circumstances of readers make it necessary. You call on people to help with that composition by supplying material via the contact option of the blog. I now see the response option open for information letter 002/2019. I would leave that out, as RobV also does with Schengen issues. A lot of people respond based on perception, not on actual experience. For example: if you say that a bank amount must be booked for 2 months on the day of the extension application, there is someone who says that this must be 3 months, because read, etc. I would indeed keep it to one issue per information letter, with one clear answer or interpretation, and not invalidate this through discussions/reactions.
Second: in letter 002/2019 you talk about information regarding an apparently new control measure “Thai marriage” at Immigration BKK. People often read information within their own context, and before they get to the end they have already formed their own interpretation. You could end the letter with a short summary of the measure, to increase clarity, and to keep the response option closed. The letter may end as follows:
In short: the situation at Immigration Chaeng Wattana is that on the day of application for an extension "Thai marriage" with a bank balance of ThB 400K as proof of income
this amount must be on the account for at least 2 months;
they initially receive a stamp “under consideration”,
after 30 days, the final extension can be collected by showing the relevant bank book with an update that the money is still on it.
Let us know via “contact” whether this procedure also applies to your local Immigration office.
Thirdly: in my opinion a lot of unrest, incomprehension and questioning arise from the fact that not everyone is gifted with insightful and comprehensible reading. They are often elderly people who have been away from their school desks for many decades. In principle, your file Visa Thailand provides all information and explanation. But I have to say that the whole file is a huge chunk of text. If you add all the references to Thai government websites: it will indeed take a few days of study to see the trees through the woods. It is not surprising that people often ask questions about the right way, although that way may be assumed to be known by now. The file requires revision, with less text - with more step-by-step manuals on how to complete procedures. I read that you were already planning all this, but maybe I can also give you this last hint: ask readers for help on how to set up the file. Again, you don't have to do it all on your own.
Thanks again for all your work and I hope you find my feedback helpful.
1. It says “This “TB Immigration information letter” has no fixed publication date, but will appear when information is available.” Not only when information is available from readers.
The comments have been left open to comment on the topic.
2. A resume that is as large as the subject itself and which still basically says the same thing does not seem appropriate to me.
3. I've been trying to make a short file since 2012, but if you don't explain anything in it, you won't get far.
People still ask why that step and why that step…. eventually you come back to what you are reading now. Explain the steps and you need text for that.
Thank you for your feedback, I always appreciate it, but please only respond to the topic of the TB Immigration Information Letter in the future.
I don't need a reward either. Appreciation is enough.
Ronny, I don't want to be annoying, but I'm reading this and I immediately wonder: what about the combination and the monthly income of at least 40.000 Baht?
If I have that minimum amount, is that also sufficient or not? And the embassy in Bangkok verifies this, doesn't it?
We therefore have these options with a marriage visa: the 400.000 Baht on an account you mentioned, a sufficient income of 40.000 Baht or more per month, or with less income: your income plus the difference between your annual income and the 400.000 Baht. Have I got that right?
Jack,
Short. This is about “Thai marriage” and with “Thai Marriage” no combination is possible.
It is an additional control measure for a bank amount of 400 Baht. With an “Under consideration stamp” you must demonstrate that after those 000 days “Under consideration” the 30 Baht is still on the account.
The article states “…one can prove the financial requirements with, among other things, a bank amount of 400 Baht.”
The financial requirements of a “Thai Marriage” are :
– Or an income of at least 40 000 Baht (proof with a visa support letter)
– Or a bank amount of at least 400 Baht (Bank letter and up-to-date bank book)
It therefore refers to the latter.
That has been the case for years and there has never been the possibility of a combination method in a “Thai Marriage”.
This has only been added since January 1, 2019
– or a deposit from abroad of at least 40 Baht monthly into a Thai account, but it increasingly appears that this method is only available to persons for whom the Embassy no longer wants to issue proof of income.
Is this clearer?
Awesome! That is clear language: either at least 40.000 monthly OR 400.000 in the bank.
Thank you very much!
Is it true that for the first time in 10 years I had to have a visa support letter legalized in Bangkok, I can protest against this, it is 6oo km back and forth from Chanthaburi.
Whether or not a “Visa Support Letter” needs to be legalized is a local decision.
No national regulation from head office. So ask your local immigration office.
And I don't see what "protesting you in Bangkok" will change this
you can also send all documents to the embassy in BKK, transfer money for the support letter fee and you will receive the letter in question by post after about 8-10 days.
It is just 250 km from Chanthaburi to Bangkok. Is that far? I have to extend my visa in June and although I can also do it by post, I go to Bangkok by bus or minivan, stay there overnight and drive home the next day in the evening. Am I out...
I live just south of Hua Hin, which is half an hour less drive, but not a world trip either.
Then you have a whole day to protest with banners! 😉
Excuse me, before this it was an income statement, never legalized before???
Oosterbroek, on the Immi Nongkhai it was for years obligatory to have the income statement of the (NL) embassy, which was drawn up in English, legalized and translated and also to have the translation legalized on Chaeng Wattana, Bangkok. When I had enough of that, I switched to the 8 ton bank balance.
Dear Ronnie,
because of affidavit it is the date of issue so for me in December (if the euro was at 36,5 now barely at 35 bath), or the date that one does the extension that counts for immigration, it can be a big difference!!
example 1800 euro x36.5 is 65700 Bath and 35 is 63000 so I will have to use the combination in case of date extension, and if date of embassy stamp is not. I can't find an answer so far.
An Affidavit is normally valid for 6 months, but many immigration offices require it to be valid for a maximum of 1 month. Just for that reason.
Immigration will look at the date and determine that you did meet the requirements at that time, but now, on the day of application, you may not.
You will probably have to use a different method (combination).
Or maybe you will be lucky and they will accept the day of legalization of your statement.
Unpredictable. Is a local decision..
Maybe also go there prepared with the combination method and play it safe.
It will certainly not be a large bank amount that needs to be supplemented.
Please post such questions as reader questions in the future, otherwise we will continue to talk about things that have nothing to do with the subject of the 'TB Immigration Information Letter'.
My Mariage extension agreement, now for the 4th time, collected on January 18, 2019 in Sakon Nakhon. Until then I didn't have to do anything but hand over my passport and got it back half an hour later with a new 90 day notice.
Then they provide good service there and the 90 days coincidentally coincides with your annual extension. That is not always the case. But you're doing fine.
So Timker,
if I understand your text correctly, you did not have to show any proof of income or bank balance in Sakon Nakhon? This is what you write. That will be the only immigration office where it is like this because this is in total contradiction with all current and past rules, unless a big exception is made for you personally. Or do you mean that before 'picking up your annual extension, after 1 month in consideration, you only received your final extension stamp on presentation of your passport??? Please be a little clear.
This information letter is about the fact that certain immi offices are asked to provide a new piece of evidence (of the bank balance) when collecting a Thai marriage year extension (if I may put it that way). Timker clearly uses the word 'collection'. He did not write at all that he did not have to show any proof with the application, as you 'read' it!
@ Ronny: At my office in Buriram, I always get a new 90 days upon collection after the period of under consideration.
@ Ronny: In Buriram, proof of bank balance has not yet been requested during the collection, but when requesting an extension it is said: “do not move money on this account” until the day of collection.
MVG
The latter is truth, I had submitted my application in December and it was under consideration until January 19 !!! Sorry, I thought the question was only about the pick-up time.
Dear readers,
Once more.
Stay on topic and don't deviate.
You can always send other questions to the editors via the usual channels.
The vague on this topic was “let us know if it applies in your local office or not.”
Everything else is irrelevant and I will not respond to matters that are not related to the topic in the future.
Thanks for your cooperation
hello ronny, now that everything has changed so much i want to apply for a family visa,
15 years ago my Thai wife passed away and now I live with my half Thai son,
so I am eligible for a family visa if I understand correctly, but does that also mean that we have to live in a house together,
sorry ronny, have another phone and lost your number
Hello Gert,
Am not sure, but I thought it is not obligatory for parents to live with the children, or they have to be supported by those children.
Financially it is the same as a “Thai Marriage”
– In the case of parents, the father or mother must maintain an average annual income of no less than Baht 40,000 per month throughout the year or must have deposited funds of no less than Baht 400,000 to cover expenses for one year.
In case the father of mother requests to be under maintenance of children, the age of father or mother must be 50 years of age or over.
It is best to ask at the immigration office to be sure.
Top this information.
I also face new choices.
This information is a very good addition.