Check in and out in line on Line
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The supermarkets and shopping centers have been avoided as much as possible. At the entrance, the temperature was measured and you had to rub your hands with a virucidal agent. That was clear and uncluttered and not a great task. That's a bit more complicated now.
If you visit a shopping mall or supermarket, you must either leave your entire baptismal certificate behind or have a smartphone with you with the Line app. This registers you via a QR code for Thai Chana (government) upon entering, but also upon leaving the building. This in addition to measuring temperature and cleaning your (dirty) hands.
For seasoned computer geeks like myself, it is always a search for the right buttons before access is obtained. Strangely enough, when leaving the building, a number of questions must also be answered about the cleanliness of the building and staff. In Dutch. How the hell does Line know that?
The intention is that Thai Chana (the app) can intervene if someone has entered the premises in possession of Covid-19. Then all alarm bells will ring and the visitors who were present at the same time as the infected person can be traced and tested. That's the plan.
I don't care that the Thai government knows that I was somewhere at a certain time. There are cameras everywhere, so my presence is easy to trace.
Should it ever come to tracing an infected person, the Thai logic really comes to life. At that time there were probably several hundred people in the building and try to track them down. And by now they have been in contact with possibly many thousands of other people, so you have to be a real tracker to quickly map out the gigantic pattern. Incidentally, the system is not (yet) able to warn people who may have had contact with the Corona-active. That is yet to come.
Fortunately, it hasn't come that far, as far as I know. We patiently check in and out, have the temperature measured and wash our hands in innocence. All for a good cause.
What a lot of administrative hassle for nothing.
The government has my phone number and can track my whereabouts at any time of the day, if necessary and under the state of emergency that is still in effect. I noticed that when the Red Shirts occupied the center of Bangkok and I received a message, standing in the BTS, that I was in a restricted area. In addition, for 14 years now I fill in XNUMX pages of paper to extend my visa, add a recent passport photo every year, put hundreds of signatures, always my telephone number and a few ago also all email addresses and Facebook names that I use. In addition, I have a tax number and a Social Security number and am legally married. And as the first blow to the flare, Maurice de Hond tells me that I actually have a much better chance of contracting the Corona virus IN the department store than entering with it. And as a second blow to the flare: there have been hardly any new Corona infections in the country in recent weeks, so all this fuss can be compared to shooting a bullet in an empty church.
Conclusion: they will NOT see me in a department store for the time being. And if my wife insists I go with her, but leave my phone at home. And to all written questions I answer: see Immigration Office database 2006-2020.
That's how I think and luckily my wife thinks too. We do essential shopping max 1x per week and for the rest we keep the money in our wallet. No more fun shopping or eating out, which we used to do 2 to 3 times a week.
We cook at home again, which we always did in NL, but here out of laziness almost never anymore. Is certainly so cozy and then those 100+ cookbooks and attributes also come out of the closet
I hate shopping anyway and previously only went there with my wife if I couldn't immediately think of an excuse... (She knew that too and often asked at the last minute.)
Thanks to the Coronavirus, I now always have an excuse not to participate. 😉
I find being monitored and giving up my privacy humiliating and that is why I will stay away from those malls for the time being, I can also spend my money with discretion elsewhere.
Check in with your line account. The fact that you have to have your temperature measured every other day is already annoying.
At the plazas, bigC, tesco lotus, mrt, bts constantly have to do this in a queue is in a queue.
Now extra, so in many places also scan the qr code and enter. However, check in again regularly in the plazas at various shops.
How all this is controlled is unclear.
If you forget to check out, nothing will happen.
Where the bag check used to be an annoyance, this has been discontinued everywhere.
Factual error in this article, you did not check in with the Line app
You apparently use line to read the QR code, but you can do that with any QR code app, or simply with the camera app on your phone that usually also recognizes QR codes automatically.
The QR is nothing more or less than an address of a website, where you log in and enter your telephone number. If you insist, you can type in a fake number.
All the government knows about you, if you don't forget to check out, is someone with phone number XYZ was in the mall from Time A to Time B.
So don't exaggerate. And if you want, you can give a fake number and they won't know about your outing.
follow me you are not well informed yourself.
If you want to correct, do it right.
For example, in every Big C and Tesco there is a large sign with a very large QR code.
And you scan it.
So none of that about giving a fake number.
What you can do is walk on and pretend you don't know what the point is.
At least that's how I do it and if I can't do that anymore I'll go shopping somewhere else.
Fluff everyone.
I work in IT, can you assure that I am well informed.
The QR code is only a web address, if you do not enter anything there, nothing will happen to your data.
Again there is no app, and a website can only log your ip, nothing else.
By the third time I had understood how it worked with the app, let's say 30 seconds and you walk in, the Thai wants it that way and I adapt, and indeed if you don't want this, stay at home, you can still find it here always slightly better than in the Netherlands, where thousands are virologists and find it difficult to adapt, let me hope that they will not have the effect back in a few months
You don't have to follow this charade at all if you want, just name and
Entering phone number is also sufficient
lS
What freedom do you still have at all?
Google Line gave me a picture of the route I had taken on a certain day
It made perfect sense, from my house to the dentist then to a restaurant and then to a bar!!
Including time and km distance.
Unbelievable, I have not signed up or signed up for anything!!
So they know exactly where you are.
It is even more unbelievable that Thailand only has 60 Corona deaths out of a population of 60 Million!!
No one believes that, right?
Maybe we can still fly to Thailand in August, but I'll wait and see what the additional rules will be.
Doctor's note, quarantine, proof of insurance and what else perhaps??
Otherwise it will be December for 4 months !!
We are a bit CORONA TIRED by now!!!!
Gr rob
I think you can adjust the location setting at Line so that your data is only tracked when using the app.
Just leave your phone at home and no one can track you.
Don't even have to leave your phone at home, just say "have no phone".
No one will look in your pockets…
Dear Mr. Hans Bos, I do not know which Shopping Mall you have been to here in Hua Hua, but in Market Village things are not going the way you write. Because I just came from Market Village, and all I was asked was if I wanted to write down my name and telephone number and my temperature was taken like everywhere else. There was also a pump with disinfectant to rub your hands with and that was it. When I left Market Village I was not asked anything. And they can know everything from me, because I have nothing to hide and everything is already known about me through Immigration.
Wil Hans writes… .. must or leave his entire baptismal certificate behind… This is not true, these are Hans's feelings, perhaps misunderstanding.
You will be politely asked if you do not have a smart phone to write down your name and possibly a telephone number. Your name can be a bitch and a phone number too.
So that you have to leave your entire baptismal certificate behind I think is mood-making and it is not the case.
We also went out for the first time yesterday. So I don't enter an app or Line registration. (no smartphone) and oh, give your phone number and name?? there is a lot of variation if you want to be naughty
Went to the Tukcom shopping in Pattaya today.
Of course I know that the temperature is measured.
Today there were 19 people in quarantine at the entrance and they all turned out to have a fever of more than 38 degrees.
It never occurred to the uniformed conscript that there could be something wrong with his electronic wonder thing. The only explanation he gave is that it was very hot outside and we had to cool down before we were allowed access.
I then went to another entrance with more sophisticated measuring equipment… 🙂
I received that check-in at the big C in Onnut. Three days ago.
Done with the camera in the phone and scanning the qr code. Check in was very big above. After that I agreed with the conditions and filled in my number.
When leaving the building, I didn't see a check out anywhere, so I left without it.
Am I still checked in then?
Here for the curious , the QR link that I saved as a QR scan to a Big C , but without wifi or mobile internet on my Smartphone
So no connection was made on site, at home in the condo I looked further into what this thing does. You can see that it keeps track of time, since in Thai I have further translated for myself with copy paste, and there are extensions, for example to how long staff are on duty. certain floor is present (if scanned)
https://qr.thaichana.com/?appId=0001&shopId=S0000013442
And the restaurants hope that they will start making money again. They were better off when the malls were still closed. Now they have to deploy extra staff and then only 1 customer is allowed per table. Who the hell wants to have dinner with your wife or girlfriend and then have to sit separately. Thanks, I'll eat at home.
Thailand, the land of many, many often useless lists. I think there must be many warehouses full of never-read lists.
Thai Watsadu in Cha am also asked this. I said, I don't have a phone so no number. Just writing down the name is enough. And indeed they waved qr codes….they don't want me yet
to follow where I go or stand!
And so it happened to me and my spouse yesterday.
On my way from Pasang to Chiangmai for my check up at the hospital , just outside Pasang Covid roadside checkpoint by army and police and what so on staff.
In any case, people were sitting, most of whom were doing nothing.
She against my ega they had to do equal control more often, but then for road safety, seems like a more useful time to me.
On arrival and in the hospital itself, everything is neat and tidy according to the rules, fever control, hand gel, chairs alternately taped off for reasons that it is forbidden to take a seat.
Also use shielding foil for staff and of course keep your distance. But when the 7/11 shop in the hospital suddenly changed, it was packed with people 3 tall in front of the 3 cash registers and the one and a half meter had only become 15 centimeters or even less.
On the way home two shops visited the Rimping supermarket on Kad Farang and then the Big C in Hangdong.
Fever control hand gel and fill in book with name and telephone number every time until annoying,
We had lunch in the restaurant of the Big C, which consisted of a few tables, each with a chair.
What a difference from before the crisis.
One tent was open, the other still closed.
I borrowed a chair from one of those other tables, there was no dog in the restaurant anyway.
Did someone from the scarce staff present speak to my spouse that this was not allowed.
I said we've been sitting next to each other in the car all day and also at home for the whole year.
Can't we sit here together, I joked to my spouse and said because of Covid 19, you can sit in the back of the pickup and sit in the blazing sun on your way home.
On the way home, it turned out that the covid checkpoint along the road that had been present for a long time was not working for incoming traffic to the Lamphun province.
That whole Covid nagging, that really gives you a splitting headache.
One person has to do this and the other the other way, because of the many rules you can no longer see the forest for the trees.
And in the meantime, everywhere in Thailand and in Holland, small self-employed people are going to hell.
And the growing misery and unemployment and uncertainty among the local population is increasing to a large extent.
Jan Beute.
As with so many things here in Thailand it is based on show, everything is a grandiose show usually without any substance.
Also with the famous temperature checks at various entrances.
It has happened to me here in Bangkok up to 4 times in the past few weeks that I must find that I am apparently very ill, not because of too high a body temperature, but because according to their toy meters I was clearly hypothermic.
I still felt perfectly fine but always had a body temperature of respect. 34.2, 34.4 and twice 34.5. You have to be clearly ill for that in a hot country like this.
When I got home I checked with my own (Philips) meter and sure enough… normal 36.6°C… practice!
Those toy meters, you never saw them in the past, not even in government hospitals, but recently everywhere in the thousands.
Probably cheap junk made in China, you know the country where it once started.
And there will probably be a few more millionaires this year.
Jan Beute
Yesterday my Thai spouse went to the Lotus and only had to give her name, nothing, no phone number or code or whatever. Went to the market this morning where only her temperature is checked on arrival and departure and the 1.5 meter rule is not applied. By the way, that market has never been closed and is open every morning.
What they think they will achieve with all their control is unclear
At least I don't go to malls anymore
Earlier this week I went to Central in Pattaya
Checked at entrance, temperature, gel on hands ok!
But also checking in via App or writing down personal details
In Central at each individual store again take temperature and gel
on the hands. And to my chagrin in many cases again
register. I refused and went home after walking around for a while.
It does not make any sense. I'm afraid they're taking advantage of the coronavirus to still
get more information about anyone for commercial and or other purposes.
I once scanned a QR code from Home Pro and am now overloaded with advertisements
I can't get Home Pro out either. This also applies to Line, by the way.
I go to small shops where you can still walk in and wait until
everything is behind.
My good faithful 7/11 apparently does not participate in the QR madness, only the temperature scan and hand wash, and at the large Tesco Lotus I already go on hold 5 minutes before opening, they do nothing, and they are first complete in control status more than half an hour later.
So shortly after 8 o'clock opening time you almost have the whole place to yourself, with a few people