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Home » Background » Driving in Thailand with a sidecar (video)
Driving in Thailand with a sidecar (video)
I've been driving a sidecar in Thailand for a few years now. Last week I had to pay the tax on the Yamaha and had to detach it from the sidecar, because the sidecar is not officially allowed.
The handlebars of the bike are bolted (or tightened - I don't know the term) because of the sidecar and when I drove the bike alone to the inspection service, I found it difficult to steer it.
Today I wanted to loosen the steering wheel, but I'm not sure how to do it. So I searched on YouTube and although I haven't found the solution yet (otherwise I'll have it done in a shop), I did find a very nice video about driving with a sidecar. Not in Thailand, but the film is made so much fun that it certainly provides a few fun minutes for every motorcycle enthusiast and user of a sidecar.
Have fun…
Video: Driving in Thailand with a sidecar
Watch the video here:
Question, if it is not allowed during the inspection and then you mount the side cart again.
Are you insured if you have an accident yourself or have an accident caused by someone else?
Hello Bert,
No, you are not insured, only if you buy a motorcycle with sidecar in the official motorcycle shops.
If you buy a Thai sidecar, you can design/design it to your liking. I ride with a sidecar that can seat 4 people. And then room for 1 person on the motorcycle. But every year it has to be inspected and then you have to disconnect the sidecar. But this only applies when the motorcycle is 4 or 5 years old. From then on, it must be inspected every year and you must disconnect the sidecar. Otherwise the engine will not be approved. Reconnect after the inspection. But then you drive uninsured. That's how it is in Thailand.
Thanks for your reply.
That means that you are extra screwed if a motorcycle with sidecar causes an accident.
Sjaak, I think in Dutch it is a sidecar, and not a sidecar - although it is of course perfectly clear what you mean. The whole is called a sidecar combination.
What you describe as screwing or tightening the steering wheel is actually tightening the bearings in the steering head, to reduce the tendency of such a sidecar to swing. Technically a better solution is to mount a so-called steering damper (mechanical or hydraulic), but I don't know if that is possible on your motorcycle. Strange actually that there are many thousands of these sidecar combinations driving around while such a combination is not permitted by law. Or, but wait a minute, we are in Thailand….
There is such a thing as theory and practice.
The construction is illegal, because you have modified the moped / motorcycle and it no longer meets the original inspection.
In practice, goods have to be transported every day, which is impossible without a sidecar, because not everyone can afford a pickup truck at the door.
Then you get things like this.
There is another possible cause for the more difficult steering now that the sidecar has been removed: deformation of the frame. That frame is of course absolutely not designed for the forces that are released on it by sidecar driving. I remember from experience that if you used to buy a second-hand solo BMW R50 that had once served as a police motorcycle with a sidecar, it never steered like a BMW that had never attached a sidecar.
Nice video!
Every time I'm in Thailand I'm surprised that these sidecar combinations are so heavily taxed.
I used to drive a sidecar in the Netherlands, which involved a lot of technique and inspections
But that's the charm of Thailand!!!
I doubt if the steering wheel will be tightened. This is because you can then twist the bearing underneath, otherwise unscrewing it can give too much play, the complete front fork with steering wheel will “tilt” I think it is almost certainly in your tires. Motorcycles with sidecar do not have "normal" motorcycle tires that are round because of the beveling in bends. Sidecar motorcycles have flat tires like under a car, because the sidecar doesn't slant and you actually go through a corner sitting upright. There are motorcyclists who are a little more anxious in corners and lean less when cornering. The tires therefore do not wear well on the sides and eventually the tires become "square" in motorcyclist jargon. You mentioned that you have been riding the Yamaha with a span for years, and almost certainly that the tires have become square, and that steers heavily, and if the tire pressure is also not right, you get a difficult and heavy bike to steer. Which is even dangerous.
In addition to the technical side of the steering wheel adjustment, this is of course also: driving with a sidecar is not allowed in Thailand!!??
And yet I don't know how many of those combinations are driving around without any problems. Without this prohibition being enforced by the hat guild. So is it any wonder that traffic rules here and in other areas are not taken seriously by Thais?
And if such combinations are prohibited, the insurance (if the driver has any at all) will certainly not pay out in the event of damage to third parties.
Yes, I've had one like that for 3 years now. They call it saleng here in Thailand. Harstike nice thing back gate down mattress and sleeping blanket my Saling also has a sky roof. Very nice to take a nap somewhere in nature on a hot day in the afternoon wind.
Yes, every year approve the Saleng pick up, piece of a baht. Saleng is allowed in Thailand, but at the inspection you only have to drive the moterbike. Make sure you put the original footpeg spring in place. All that.
Yes, a few days later I went to the company where the sidecar is built and mounted. Unscrewing a screw, as I thought, is not the case. The entire handlebar is removed and a separate bearing replaces the normal one. This keeps the handlebar stable. I'll leave that as it is for now.
I don't plan to drive much without the sidecar. I had the old tires replaced by larger, thicker tires some time ago. My local mechanic said this was better due to wear and tear.
That bearing must be replaced every two years (depending on use), also because of wear.
Yes, that's what crossed my mind too. In the Netherlands you would have been taken off the road for a long time. I had to brake hard twice. The first time I did a lap and the second time I couldn't avoid making a dent in the car, which shot out onto the road without looking or braking. Fortunately the driver thought it was more important to see if I was okay and said about the dent..mai pen rai! Maybe in case of compensation he should have paid me..we were both wrong. He wasn't looking and I was driving too fast...I've become more careful now...
I had never heard of a sidecar, sidecar though. What would that be called in Thai I wondered?
According to Thai-language.com:
tag: phôewang-khâan
literally: bike (tjàk-krà-jaan ) with (bèp mie: ) connect/pull (phôewang) side, side (khâan)
That's a mouth full... (motorcycle with) sidecar is a lot easier.
nice video.
The mini cargo cart (sidecar cargo cart?), which is used everywhere, including in Bangkok, without which much necessary transport such as supplies would become absolutely impossible.
It's so Thai it's officially banned.
What strikes me is that the riders of a side cart never wear a helmet, but yes this is Thailand.
You're not on the moped anyway, so why should you wear a helmet?
Since the sidecar is legally not part of the moped, there can be no law that obliges you to wear a helmet in the sidecar.
For a caravan in the Netherlands there is probably no obligation to wear a seat belt.
Whether you are allowed to be in the caravan during the ride is another story, I don't know, but for not wearing a seatbelt in the caravan, you probably cannot be ticketed.
You will not be fined for that seatbelt/helmet. You will save that 200 Baht.
It becomes different when you are fined for transporting people in places that are not intended for this and it gets worse when you are also held responsible for (un)intentional manslaughter in an accident and this is due to the illegal sidecar.
Or, of course, you must be able to prove that you did not know that there was a sidecar with a person attached to the moped you were driving, or that you were transporting someone in that caravan.
I don't really know whether to laugh or feel sad. Do I have more if I read when the Thai system suits someone… (I screw em off and ready for the check) . I hope you never felt that way about your passengers. ….
I have had a small workshop built on my property, where I work a lot on my vehicles as a hobby, I also built a sidecar myself, and attached it to a Honda XLX 450, no problem here, the police here have their thumbs up when they see the combi driving.
It is, of all things, my girlfriend who drives around the most with the combi, it is the most ideal vehicle here in the Isaan, everyone drives it around here, it is unbelievable what they transport everything with it, beautiful to see, everything is impossible must here, TiT.
Indeed, it is called sidecar in the Netherlands. But I have translated the name from English Sidecar, hence “cart” and not “span”.
As far as transportation goes… that's what I mainly use for that. We do not have an SUV, but a regular passenger car. If I buy planks of 4 to 5 meters, I can't transport them by car. I also take our plastic and metal waste to the processor once every six months. Then about four tons go on the sidecar, fastened with straps. It has only happened once that a whole ton fell off the bandwagon…in the beginning when I had no experience.
But I also transported the refrigerator, mattress of the double bed (and the bed itself - screwed apart) when we moved a few years ago.
What I can transport with that cart, I will never be able to do with the car. Six sacks of cement, good for 300 kg, building blocks and whatnot… trees, plants, everything possible.
Once I had brought the Swedish man from our visit to his resort: plastic chair on the side cart, tied up, girlfriend next to it and him on the chair. He was too drunk to move. Luckily it wasn't far, but at least that's how he arrived.
During songkran we once drove to Hua Hin with a barrel of water and the sidecar and my wife was able to throw water…
I even brought my 60 kg cross trainer (packed) from Hua Hin to our home. And ditto tiles…. had to be helped to get up from the motorcycle parking lot of Market Village ...
I would find it a pity if the side carts / teams are banned one day…. then there should be a skylab (that is a cart with half an engine in the front)…