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Home » Background » Dutch tour operators have already removed elephant rides from the list
The well-known elephant rides in Thailand can no longer be booked with Dutch travel organizations. Tour operators who are members of the ANVR decided years ago to no longer offer such excursions.
Last week, World Animal Protection (WAP) started a petition against Thomas Cook asking them to remove elephant trips from their travel programs. Thomas Cook was unpleasantly surprised by this because they say they have been offering elephant rides for quite some time now.
"Thomas Cook Group stopped offering elephant excursions to our UK and Northern European customers some time ago and our companies in mainland Europe, including Germany, have also removed the excursions from their programmes," a spokesman said. .
Thomas Cook is active in the Netherlands through the companies Vrij Uit and Neckermann. Both travel organizations have not been offering elephant excursions for years.
Source: ANP
Yet at eg 333 travel in an excursion I clearly read texts such as a trip through the jungle on the back of an elephant, so I'm curious what I have to imagine here. Perhaps there are more organizations where you have to read carefully between the lines. If not, it might be an idea to adjust the text.
Just a bat in the chicken coop: Why no more elephant rides?
Are all those elephant reserves (or whatever you want to call them) wrong then? If so, the elephants must be released immediately. See what happens then.
I have been to various camps/reserves and have never seen any abuse. Would like to hear who has other experiences, but substantiated and not with "goat wool socks arguments".
If you open your eyes properly, you will see the Thai "helpers" walking around with 1 meter long sticks and a 5 or 6 inch wire nail at the end. Why is that do you think?
Saw it myself about 10 years ago when we arrived at an excursion how a mahout was ramming with his hook on top of an elephant. We then left immediately with our entire group, because we could not bear to see this. been to such an elephant camp where they promote such a ride. This is substantiated enough and without goat wool socks
Just have a look at the attached link. Then you know why elephant rites should be banned.
http://www.trueactivist.com/gab_gallery/this-is-why-you-should-not-ride-elephants-in-thailand/#.VFEkxj0vvgU.facebook
@teun, those abuses obviously do not happen under the nose of tourists. Just do a search on youtube and you will see what happens to those animals if they don't feel like playing football, painting or having to lug people around!
Although this is an abuse in our Western eyes, we should not forget that there is still a lot of animal suffering in the Netherlands, look at the huge illegal dog trade where the puppies have a short life, apparently the government is unable to combat this illegal dog trade . Let's first fight our own animal suffering and only improve the rest of the world. Will the tour operators also provide replacement tours or has the Thai man had bad luck and no longer have any income.
I disagree with a boycott.
The elephants that are used do not come from the wild. These were formerly used for work in forestry. Now this work has been taken over by death machines. So the elephants are out of work.
However, they do need to be cared for and fed. This is a lot for an elephant. If the elephant excursions can no longer be held, this means no food. This has to be paid for somewhere. So help the tame elephants and go for a ride.
Hank Hauer. What you write is nonsense. Most elephants used in Thailand come from the wild. (Usually Burma) A herd is shot and then the young elephants are taken out. These are made “tame” for the tourist industry. Fortunately, there are now places where abused and crippled elephants are taken care of. You can visit these camps for a fee and you can feed them and play with them. By making journeys you help to maintain these abuses.
So help elephants and visit a camp where you can play with them, but don't take a ride.
In February I went to the elephant camp in Mae Taeng, as the lady who was on holiday with us wanted to do the elephant ride, so I reluctantly went with her.
Must confess that I later regretted it and it was also the last time to do it this way.
A few years ago you could still visit this camp quietly and the elephants could rest after a ride.
Unfortunately, everything has been renovated and it looks like an amusement park. When you enter and book the trip with the elephant/ox cart and on a bamboo raft, you get a butt with a time indication taped to your chest and you have to keep an eye on the time.
If the elephant ride is over and you want to sit down before you sit on the bullock cart you can't because you have to go with the pack as the next group is already arriving.
If you see what happens to young elephants on videos, I would still consider ignoring these camps.
If you drive past this camp, you will come across a few small camps where the animals are treated well and it is not a circus around it.
I don't know what to think, a good part of the bloggers are against the use of elephants, although that has been happening for a very long time.
And is it that making rides on an elephant causes serious discomfort to the back or, as Miek 37 writes, the way of training is wrong,
In the latter case I have a tip, rewarding with King peppermint works, some years ago I established that experimentally myself [ yes yes ]
Took a ride on Koh Chang, sweltering of course, what's the best thing to do, right, take a peppermint, our mount got air and the nose came almost under mine and the brakes applied.
Encouraging did not help, until my wife said to me, would she, it was a lady, want to taste one perhaps, after a short consultation with the "driver" held one in front of her, hop over the pointed lower lip and at first request, the stuff went on its way again.
Despite our 70 springs we enjoyed that afternoon as children, at the end of the ride we were without King because the procedure repeated itself quite a few times.
If the great hunter spares us for a while, we will return to Koh Chang and take another ride on the same lady, I think she will still recognize us.
Besides, I can hardly imagine that such large and strong animals as an elephant collapse under the weight of two people and a bench.
with Waidmann's greetings.
Yes Yes. Your peppermint is a wonderful gauge for maintaining elephant rides.
Nice for you, this experience, but there is really serious abuse of elephants here.
That's right, we spent 7 weeks on Koh Chang last year, the supervisors treat the animals GREAT here, get plenty to eat and drink, saw nothing wrong.
Take a ride with this amazing animal.
My wife and I regularly go up north for elephant rides through the forest.
Fantastic.
In the past, they had to use 70-90% of their forces for, among other things, tree towing work.
Now good care (most of the managers) friendly people around them with extra food which is a. healthy for them, and b. tasty.
Now they need to use 25% of their powers.
BUT… maybe this action is a signal to that small section of administrators that sometimes go wrong.
Incidentally, it says a lot about the organization WAP, if you offer a petition to the Thomas Cook Group, while they have already taken action.
Well they do.
We know the managers of 'our' park, and it is a pleasure, and experience for humans and animals.
We come there regularly. NEVER seen 1 abuse. On the contrary.
KhunBram.
Unfortunately, it is simply offered by Kras Reizen.
Dear people,
I regularly work as a volunteer in an ElephantsWorld, a sanctuary for old and sick elephants near Kanchanaburi. Despite the fact that elephants look strong, they can only bear a maximum of 100 kg on their back. A bowl on which one sits already weighs 50 kg….plus 2 to 4 adults….do the math. In ElephantsWorld there are elephants who have worked in trekking camps. The backs of these animals are fused together, it is unnatural. In a trekking camp they don't get enough to eat because they have to carry tourists around all day. Some have to work until they drop dead (which happens regularly, just google it) or until a very old age. I've seen and read so much misery about elephants being abused to give tourists a nice day, it's just sad. If you still want to see an elephant up close, go to a responsible reserve such as ElephantsWorld. There are more such reserves throughout Thailand . Indeed, these elephants can no longer be returned to the wild and also need food, which is why they are taken care of in these kinds of reserves where tourists can admire them in a responsible way. in the end, of course, I sincerely hope that these kinds of reserves will no longer be necessary, because the elephants will then only live in the wild and will be left alone by us humans
It's time to add a dislike button here. how on earth can you be in favor of the elephant rides if you haven't bothered to look up how they are trained. That is for the beasts.
I would like to treat those trainers the same way.
There are of course always a number of people who do not recognize animal suffering.
Most likely fall under the same category that people do not recognize suffering.
Color
We have been going to Thailand for 10 years with friends or colleagues and every year we all make a nice trip through the forest on the elephants of Mae taeng elephant park and that is great to do in this park, they generally go lovingly dealing with those elephants for the animals, this is not a burden, they have been doing this for as long as humans have existed (dragging trees, transporting people) and there is nothing wrong with that.
Those who have a bad experience with an elephant camp should address the mahud about it on the spot and not tar everything with the same brush.
We hope to go for years to come together with many other people and recommend everyone to visit this camp.
The real good Thai take good care of his animal (also earns a living)