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Home » Background » High-speed line between Bangkok and Korat has green light
High-speed line between Bangkok and Korat has green light
The cabinet has given the final green light for the high-speed line between Bangkok and Korat. China will be involved in the construction of the 260-kilometer stretch. It is planned to be delivered in 2021.
Every day, 6 trains will cross the track at a speed of 250 kilometers per hour with 600 passengers at a time. It is expected to transport about 5.500 travelers daily. The travel time would be 5 minutes and the ticket price 535 Baht. Buses would take four to five hours to travel the same route. The train will make 6 stops at Bang Sue (Bangkok's new main station), Don Mueang, Ayutthaya, Saraburi, Pak Cong and Nakhon Ratchasima (Korat).
The total cost is estimated at 179 billion Baht. It is not known what agreements have been made about this or how this will be financed. It is certain that China will not be less affected, given its global expansion drive!
12 trains with 600 passengers times 365 days paying 535 baht yields 1,5 billion per year. The payback period is therefore 100 years and then the ongoing costs have not yet been deducted. Unless you expect a huge income growth in the distant future.
There will probably also be income from goods that are transported.
'Recoup time' is certainly not the guiding principle for this type of project – not even in our country, the HSL and the Betuwe line are not recouped either, I think.
Khorat – Bangkok costs 191 baht and then you have the choice up to and including luxury buses with 34 seats. Still over 340 baht cheaper than the train so I wonder where they think they get those numbers from. Those with a car will certainly not use the train because it is more expensive and more inconvenient and transfer passengers from other provinces further away already have a choice, namely the plane or the bus.
Don't agree with you. Now people keep coming to pick me up from Khorat, Half family waiting and already hungry when leaving Khorat. Now I can just take the train for 500 baht. Much cheaper than the car that is rented and the restaurant along the way where you always have to stop. For me this is a great outcome.
How do they want to secure this? Considering all train accidents and accidents with trains involving vehicles. I'd like to see this first. If it works this would be fine. Would like to use it right away.
@Tony yes that is a good one… a very long payback period.
In the Netherlands, the High Speed train has not driven a meter after years!
How is the payback time???
The high-speed trains will be equipped with the rock-solid Chinese qualities that most of us are familiar with.
And who will use this super train the ordinary modal Thai , I do not think so .
Wouldn't it have been better and cheaper to build a railway system as we know it in the Netherlands with a speed of around 150 km along the Veluwe, is already hard enough.
But of course it must again become a prestige object of unprecedented size , in order to show the world that Thailand is no longer a developing country .
Jan Beute.
250 km per hour is not a hi-speed train.
At least if they're going to drive that, which I doubt.
Then it would have to be an electric train.
Diesels don't drive that fast.
And the quality of energy supply in Thailand is not of a high level, with fluctuations of more than 10% in a day. (sometimes also 100% less. And there you are halfway between two stations.)
In Khon Kaen, by the way, a concrete railway on pillars is being built.
I assume this will happen elsewhere as well.
Tony's calculation is of course not entirely correct, the route will be part of a connection from China to a port in Myanmar, freight transport will be the source of income.
What worries me the most is the shortage of technical personnel, driving, testing and repairing high-tech trains is not something you can master in a few months.
The current rail company has to bridge a technical gap of 60 years in one fell swoop, this will not succeed without the hiring of foreign specialists.
I am available for a fee of THB 250.000 per month.
It will be a new railway track only for the high speed train. In addition, the current rail network from Bangkok to Nong Khai will be doubled, this is for regular trains and freight transport and later perhaps for freight transport to and from China. But the 2 projects are separate from each other.
If they don't do anything, it's not good either, isn't it investing in high-tech rail infrastructure?
initially 6 trips per day, but that number will soon expand once they have more trains.
And safety, an HSL line does not cross a public road and is secured with ETCS or other Chinese variants.
And road safety is just a big drama, no bus is safe, how many accidents per year with these mastodons?
Once Korat is connected, the next step is the extension through Isaan.
It is true that the classic narrow-gauge network also needs to be replaced, bringing it to European gauge is also a huge investment and challenge.
Low Cost airlines were initially also limited inland. Now take a look..
If the Chinese invest about money, it means they believe in it, just like the construction of a great railway corridor from China to Singapore.
Investments in major infrastructure works and railways have always brought progress and prosperity, read it,
China has the largest high-speed network in the world. The highest speeds are 350 km/h.
What people want to build in Thailand is a so-called sub high speed network, with speeds of up to 250 km/h.
The construction of this is about 80% cheaper and hardly more expensive than a new line that can be driven at 150 km/h.
The Chinese generally manufacture according to the specified specifications, so if you order junk you can get that too.
I have some faith in these types of projects, or should we Dutch people with our commercial spirit have offered a batch of discarded Ansaldo Breda HSL trains, as good as new, that have not or hardly been used?