Tambayar mai karatu: Matata ta Thai ta sami wata biza, wannan fa?

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Fabrairu 6 2014

Yan uwa masu karatu,

Matata ta Thai za ta koma Netherlands a ranar 16 ga Maris na tsawon watanni 3, a karo na 4. Duk da haka, visa ta Schengen ta bambanta da yadda aka saba. Bizar tana aiki daga 14 ga Maris, 2014 zuwa Agusta 25, 2015. Kuma ya ce Multi.

A cewar uwargidan wani ofishin vsia, za ta iya zuwa Jamus don tsawaita shi na wasu watanni 3. Wani irin biza gudu. Akwai wanda ya san abin da ke faruwa?

BTW don amsa.

Mvg

Gerrit

Amsoshi 21 ga "Tambaya mai karatu: Matata ta Thai ta sami biza daban, wannan fa?"

  1. Rob V. in ji a

    Amsa gajere: wannan shine takardar izinin shiga da yawa don shigarwa da yawa zuwa yankin Schengen akan sitimin biza iri ɗaya. Don haka budurwarka za ta iya zuwa yankin Schengen sau da yawa tare da wannan siti tsakanin Maris 14, 2014 da Agusta 25, 2015, don iyakar zama na kwanaki 90 a cikin kwanaki 180.

    Amsa mai tsayi:
    Idan kana da ɗan gajeren zama Visa (VKV, kuma aka sani da Schengen C visa ko "Visa yawon shakatawa"), za ka iya nuna a kan fom lokacin da ake nema ko kana son shigarwar 1 ko fiye (multi). Yawancin lokaci, ofishin jakadancin Holland yana ƙaddamar da visa don shigarwa 1 zuwa yankin Schengen tare da aikace-aikacen VKV na farko. Idan kuna tafiya akai-akai akai-akai, kuna iya neman takardar izinin shiga da yawa KO ofishin jakadanci yana tunani tare da ku kuma ya ba da bizar shiga da yawa da kansa. Ofishin jakadanci ya samar da na karshen a matsayin hidima ga budurwar ku, wanda ke adana kudi domin a lokacin ba za ku sake neman visa ba har yanzu.

    Tare da irin wannan bizar mai shiga da yawa za ku iya shigar da biza iri ɗaya sau da yawa. Da fatan za a lura da lokacin inganci (wanda galibi shine shekara 1, amma kuma yana iya zama na shekaru da yawa). A cikin kwanaki 180 za ku iya tafiya a cikin yankin Schengen na tsawon kwanaki 90.

    Ta yaya kuke lissafin "ma'auni" na kwanakin buɗewa (90 a cikin kwanaki 180)?
    EU ta ƙirƙira kayan aiki don tantance ainihin adadin kwanakin da har yanzu ake bin ku (ba za ku iya samun wani haƙƙi daga gare ta ba):
    http://ec.europa.eu/dgs/home-affairs/what-we-do/policies/borders-and-visas/border-crossing/index_en.htm

    Wannan yana kan IND.nl a cikin 2013, amma tun daga lokacin an cire shafin labarai. Ana iya samun ta a nan: http://www.kroesadvocaten.nl/nl/nieuws/wijziging-berekening-dagen-verblijf-in-schengengebied

    Ƙarin bayani game da visa:
    - http://www.rijksoverheid.nl/onderwerpen/visa/visum-voor-kort-verblijf-nederland
    – Akwai ƙasida game da VKV akan IND.nl, amma kuma ta ɓace. Tabbas zai sake dawowa?
    Wasu ƙasashe suna ba da shigarwa da yawa cikin sauƙi a karon farko ko don wasu dalilai na balaguro: ƴan shekaru da suka wuce budurwata ta nemi takardar izinin shiga 1 don ziyarar iyali a Austria kuma ta sami takardar izinin shiga da yawa.

    Ƙarfafawa ba za ku iya yin "nau'in gudanar da visa ba". VKV yawanci yana aiki a ko'ina cikin Schengen (idan ba haka ba, za a sami ƙuntatawa kamar "mai aiki ne kawai ga Netherlands"), amma babu ma'ana a tafiya zuwa Jamus. Kuna iya shiga, fita da tafiya ko'ina cikin yankin Schengen. Ana ɗaure ku da matsakaicin ingancin biza da iyakar adadin kwanakin (mafi girman 90 a cikin kwanaki 180). Tsawaita takardar iznin (kuma) zai yiwu a cikin Netherlands idan, alal misali, kuna da biza na kwanaki 30 kuma kuna son tsayawa tsayi (max. 90 days), ana iya yin haka a IND.

    • Rob V. in ji a

      Wasu ƙarin shawarwari yayin da muke magana game da tanadin kuɗi:
      - Idan baƙo yana shirin zuwa yankin Schengen sau da yawa a cikin shekaru 1-2, nemi takardar izinin MULTI (shigarwa da yawa). Tabbatar da dalilin shigar da sau da yawa akan biza, idan ya cancanta, a cikin wasiƙar da ta biyo baya wanda wataƙila kun riga kun rubuta don ƙin "haɗarin sansanin soja" da "makomar tafiya ba mai yiwuwa ba", duba, a tsakanin sauran, kyakkyawan bayani akan Blog ɗin Thailand game da shi. wannan). Idan ofishin jakadancin bai yarda cewa akwai buƙatar shigarwa da yawa ba, za ku sami shigarwa 1 kawai. https://www.thailandblog.nl/category/dossier/schengenvisum/

      – Bayar da rahoton wajibci ga ‘yan sandan Aliens ba ya zama dole tun 2014.

      – Idan kana zaune kusa da kan iyaka, zai iya zama mai rahusa - tayin tikitin jirgin sama mai kyau - ka zo ka tashi ta wata ƙasa maƙwabta (kamar Jamus). Ba lallai ba ne ku sauka a cikin Netherlands kuma ku tafi muddin babban dalilin tafiya yana cikin Netherlands.

      - Shin kun koshi da VFS Global tofa da / ko kun fi son kashe farashin baht 480 a wani wuri, yin rajista kai tsaye tare da ofishin jakadancin (ta hanyar imel) don alƙawari saboda ana ba da izinin hakan bisa ga ka'idodin Schengen (amfani da Ba za a iya buƙatar mai bada sabis ba).

      - Har ila yau, akwai wasu ofisoshin visa (kamar yadda Gerrit ya kira "ofishin visa") amma tare da kyakkyawan shiri - ciki har da fayil ɗin nan a ThailandBlog tare da shawarwari, bayanan da ke kan gidan yanar gizon ofishin jakadancin, tarurruka irin su foreignpartner.nl, da dai sauransu - mafi yawan mutane za su iya shirya bizar da kansu tare da abokin tarayya.

      Gerrit, a nan gaba, kawai sake neman takardar izinin shiga Multi-shigarwa (idan ba a riga ka karɓi ta atomatik ba). Daga ƙwaƙwalwar ajiya na ce za su iya ba da irin wannan takardar biza tare da inganci har zuwa shekaru 5. 🙂

      • Gerrit in ji a

        Rob V Na gode da amsar ku. Ya bayyana a gare ni yanzu. Wataƙila ta sami wannan bizar ne saboda mun yi aure a hukumance a Thailand da Netherlands. Ina fatan za ta iya zama na dogon lokaci, amma dole ne ta koma Thailand bayan wata 3. Ina fatan zan iya ceton kaina tikitin jirgin sama, amma abin takaici ba haka bane. 🙂
        godiya ta yaya.

        gr.gerrit

        • Rob V. in ji a

          Maraba da ku, masoyi Gerrit. 🙂 Wannan visa ta shiga da yawa ta kasance kawai saboda matarka ta yi tafiya da fita sau da yawa kuma za ta yi tafiya (sannan neman biza kowane lokaci ya zama tsada da ɓata lokaci).

          Idan kuna son ƙarin ajiya, zaku iya samun ɗaya a matsayin ma'aurata kyauta, babu komai, samun visa. Dole ne ku nemi takardar visa a ofishin jakadancin Schengen (misali Jamus, Spain) ban da na Dutch. Idan kun tabbatar da cewa kun yi aure (watau iyali) kuma ba za ku zo ƙasarku (Netherland) a matsayin matar aure ba, amma kuna tafiya hutu tare da ku zuwa Spain, alal misali, to bisa ga yarjejeniyar Schengen, kuna da hakki. zuwa visa na kyauta ba tare da ƙarin hujja ba (shirya inshorar balaguron likita ba shakka). Wannan kuma ya shafi 'yan Belgium, amma dole ne mijinsu/matansu na Thailand ya nemi takardar visa a ofishin jakadanci banda na Belgium. Bayani: http://www.vfsglobal.com/netherlands/thailand/Visa_Exemptions.html (Alal misali, ma'auratan Belgian suna iya samun takardar izinin shiga kyauta ta hanyar tafiya hutu tare a cikin Netherlands don haka neman takardar visa ta Schengen ta Dutch).

          Idan kana son zama a yankin Schengen na fiye da kwanaki 90 daga cikin kwanaki 180, dole ne matarka ta nemi izinin zama na VVR (tsarin TEV, duba IND.nl) kuma ta yi ƙaura zuwa Netherlands. Daga nan za ta iya zama a Netherlands duk shekara, amma wannan ba lallai ba ne idan dai "babban mazaunin ku" yana cikin Netherlands. IND ta ɗauka cewa babban mazaunin yana wajen Netherlands idan: “(…)
          • Ya zauna a wajen Netherlands fiye da watanni 6 a jere kuma yana da izinin zama na wucin gadi ko
          • A cikin shekara ta uku a jere (shekaru 3 a jere), ya zauna a wajen Netherlands fiye da watanni 4 (a jere) kuma yana da izinin zama na wucin gadi.
          (…)" Source: https://kdw.ind.nl/KnowledgeRoot.aspx?knowledge_id=FAQVerplaatsenHoofdverblijf

          Amma dole ne ka sami dalilai masu kyau don kada ka nemi izinin zama ga matarka, amma saboda cikar zan ambaci zaɓi na VVR ko ta yaya. Yi nishaɗi tare a cikin NL da TH! 🙂

          • Gerrit in ji a

            hello rob v

            Na gode da bayyanannun amsoshinku. Na yi matukar farin ciki da shi. Manufar ita ce a nemi izinin zama. Amma matata tana da shekara 52 kuma ta riga ta fara jin tsoron jarabawar haɗa kai da koyon Yaren mutanen Holland. Lokacin da ta dawo a watan Yuni, duk da haka, za ta ɗauki darussan Dutch a Bangkok kuma za mu gwada. Tabbas, yana da sauƙi lokacin da kuke ƙarami kuma kun sami ƙarin ilimi. Don haka hakan ya rike mu.

            Gaisuwa mafi kyau

            Gerrit

            • HansNL in ji a

              Gerrit

              Shekarun abokin tarayya daidai ɗaya ne daga cikin manyan abubuwan tuntuɓe lokacin koyon Yaren mutanen Holland.
              A wannan shekarun, ko kuma tsofaffi, koyan yaren waje abu ne da ba zai yuwu ba.

              A gaskiya, ya kamata a yi la'akari da shekarun da aka yi la'akari da waɗannan "buƙatun haɗin kai", yin jarrabawar tarho, da kuma rashin kula da hukumomin Holland gaba ɗaya.

              Zai zama babban ci gaba idan, kamar na "'yan gudun hijira", akwai gungun lauyoyi da ke shirye su taimake ku.

              Na dauki halin da nake ciki, ni 67 da kaina, takwaransa 53, tsammanin ina so in koma Netherlands, saboda dalilai na kiwon lafiya, kuma ba shakka abokin tarayya yana so ya kula da ni.
              Duk wani sassauci da za a yi tsammani?
              Kada kuyi tunanin haka.

            • melchior in ji a

              Hello,

              Budurwata kuma tana da shekaru 52 a duniya kuma a shekarar da ta gabata ta sami takardar shaidar shiga jama'a, wanda ya zama dole don neman izinin zama.
              Ta kasance tana da ajujuwa 4 na makarantar firamare kuma ta koyar da kanta Turanci ta hanyar yin.
              Sannan ya nemi izinin zama kuma ya sami izinin zama.
              Ya wuce kwas ɗin haɗin kai a cikin Netherlands a cikin watanni 8.
              Ƙarfafawa da juriya sune mafi mahimmancin halayen da kuke buƙata.

              gaisuwan alheri,

              melchior

            • Tino Kuis in ji a

              Dear Gerrit,
              Kar a yaudare ku da tunanin cewa koyan yaren waje yana da shekaru 52 matsala ce, balle a ce 'aiki kusan ba zai yiwu ba'. Shekaru, har ma da ilimin da ya gabata, suna taka rawa ne kawai. Juriya da koyo na yau da kullun sune abubuwa mafi mahimmanci don samun nasara a cikin koyon yaren waje. Na fara koyon harshen Thai tun ina shekara 55, kuma yanzu ina magana, karantawa da rubuta shi a hankali, bayan shekaru 15.

  2. BA in ji a

    Budurwata ta yi abu iri daya a karshe. Visa VKV ta nemi, a karo na 2. Ya kasance a cikin wannan shekarar. Kuma ta atomatik ta sami shekara 1 na shigarwa da yawa. Lokacin da ake nema, ba su tambayi kome ba, kawai ko garanti ɗaya ne, kuma kwastam a kan iyakar Holland ba su sake yin wata tambaya ba. Ina tsammanin cewa idan lokacin farko ya yi kyau, ba zato ba tsammani sun zama mafi annashuwa.

  3. HansNL in ji a

    Tambaya mai ban mamaki watakila.
    Shin wannan shine abin da ake kira ka'idar biza "orange kafet"?

    • Rob V. in ji a

      A'a, bana tunanin haka. Ina tsammanin (!) yana kamar haka:
      Irin wannan takardar izinin shiga da yawa wani ɓangare ne na kafet na orange, amma a zahiri yana nufin wani abu dabam. Kafet ɗin orange an yi niyya ne da farko don matafiya "muhimmanci" don su sami biza cikin sauri kuma tare da ɗan wahala sosai (wannan shine don ƙarfafa tafiya zuwa Netherlands ko aƙalla don hana mutane daga ƙa'idodin visa na yau da kullun). . Har ila yau, mutane na iya neman takardar izinin shiga da yawa na Orange Carpet ko samun ta "ta atomatik/ba tare da neman izini ba" (wato daga ofishin jakadanci) lokacin tafiya da dawowa sau da yawa.

      A aikace, ina tsammanin yana zuwa ne kawai ga wani (abokin tarayya na Thai) wanda ya riga ya yi tafiya sau da yawa, don haka da sauri kuma ba tare da matsala ba ya sami takardar izinin shiga da yawa, wanda za ku iya gani a matsayin "kafet orange". Ko ofishin jakadanci ya ba da takardar izinin shiga Multi-shigarwa ta atomatik a lokuta irin su BA da Gerrit a matsayin Orange Carpet (a hukumance) Ba na kuskure in faɗi ... amma a aikace yana zuwa kusan iri ɗaya. Idan ka a hukumance fada karkashin Orange Carpet, ya kamata babu sauran matsala: mutane ba su sake tambaya game da masauki da garanti takardu, da dai sauransu (wannan ba lallai ba ne ga Orange Carpet idan kun riga kun shiga kasar sau da yawa, amma ya zama dole don aikace-aikacen Carpet na Orange na farko?).

      Duba: http://vreemdelingenrechtcom.blogspot.nl/2010/09/sneller-een-visum-dankzij-de-oranje.html en http://thailand.nlambassade.org/producten-en-diensten/consular-services/visum-voor-nederland/oranje-carpet-aanvraag.html

      Ba ni da gogewa da Orange Carpet da kaina amma wannan shine yadda nake fassara bayanin game da shi, don kyakkyawar amsa mai kyau da tabbatacce yakamata ku tuntuɓi ofishin jakadancin. Ina son a gyara!

  4. Tea daga Huissen in ji a

    Tambaya, kamar yadda aka nuna a ƙasa cewa aikace-aikacen ta hanyar imel kuma suna tafiya ta cikin ajanda na Ofishin Jakadancin ko ???? yaya wannan aiki yake, ta yaya kuke samun bayanai, kuna da damar yaushe???????
    Godiya a gaba don amsa mai taimako. a gare ni komai abra-cadabra ne.

    - Shin kun koshi da VFS Global tofa da / ko kun fi son kashe farashin baht 480 a wani wuri, yin rajista kai tsaye tare da ofishin jakadancin (ta hanyar imel) don alƙawari saboda ana ba da izinin hakan bisa ga ka'idodin Schengen (amfani da Ba za a iya buƙatar mai bada sabis ba).

    • Rob V. in ji a

      A'a, ba za ku ga ajanda ba saboda kawai kuna yin alƙawari ta imel. Kuna rubuta imel tare da rana (s) da lokaci (s) waɗanda kuke son yin alƙawari sannan kuma ofishin jakadanci ya ba da amsa ranar da lokacin da za ku iya zuwa.

      Don haka a zahiri kuna biyan wanka 480 don gani da yin alƙawari ta hanyar kalandar kan layi, amma bisa ga Lambar Visa * kuna da damar yin ajiyar kai tsaye da alƙawari ba tare da sa hannun VFS ko wani ba. Ita ma ofishin jakadancin ta tabbatar da hakan. Ina tsammanin sun fi son yin alƙawura ta hanyar VFS don ku sanya alƙawari a cikin tsarin maimakon ofishin jakadancin, yana adana lokacin ofishin jakadancin (sabili da haka farashin), akwai ƙarancin nunin nunin, da sauransu, don haka daga Ra'ayin ofishin jakadancin yana da kyau idan mutum yayi ajiyar wuri ta hanyar VFS. Daga ra'ayin abokin ciniki? Dole ne kowa ya yanke shawara da kansa ko kun yi alƙawari ta hanyar VFS ko kai tsaye a ofishin jakadancin. Ka san hakkinka kuma ka yanke shawara da kanka.

      * Wannan ya bayyana daga lambar Visa: -EC Regulation 810/2009 Mataki na ashirin da 17 -. Duba: http://buitenlandsepartner.nl/showthread.php?57751-extra-servicekosten-heffingen-door-VFS-Global-TLS-Contact-en-andere-visum-bureaus

  5. HansNL in ji a

    Sakin layi na ƙarshe yana da ban sha'awa sosai.
    Kuma da ƙarfi da bayyane yana kwatanta shigar da ni a baya cikin abin biza.

    Yan uwa na EU, EEA da ƴan ƙasar Switzerland

    Mutum na iya shiga yankin Schengen gaba ɗaya har zuwa kwanaki 90 ba tare da biza ba idan ya/ta:[13]

    – yana riƙe da ingantaccen takaddar tafiya, kuma
    - yana da izinin zama wanda ke nuna ko dai "dangin ɗan ƙasar EU" ko "dangin dangi na EEA ko CH ɗan ƙasa", kuma
    yana tafiya tare ko shiga cikin EU/EEA/Dan ƙasar Switzerland memba na iyali.

    Wani dangi na EU/EEA/Swiss dan kasa mai gamsar da sharuɗɗan da ke sama zai iya shiga Bulgaria, [14]Croatia, Cyprus[15] da Romania[16] kuma ya zauna har zuwa kwanaki 90 a kowace ƙasa.

    A ka'idar, memba na EU / EEA / Swiss ɗan ƙasa wanda bai cika waɗannan sharuɗɗan da ke sama ba dole ne ya nemi takardar biza a gaba ba, kuma a maimakon haka yana iya samun biza lokacin isowa bakin iyakar ƙasar Schengen, Bulgaria. , Croatia, Cyprus ko Romania ta hanyar gabatar da shaidar dangantakar iyali.

  6. leen.egberts in ji a

    Mai Gudanarwa: babu tambayoyin da ba a magana ba don Allah.

  7. MACB in ji a

    Labari mai ban sha'awa, abin tausayi cewa martanin ya ƙunshi rubutattun rubutu waɗanda wani lokaci yakan sa ya zama da wahala a fahimta. Abin da na rasa a zahiri a cikin martani shine hanya mai arha don tashi tare da 'tafiya-birni' (ko tsayi) zuwa ƙasar 'da ba ta Schengen' ba, da komawa yankin Schengen don kunnawa na kwanaki 90 masu zuwa.

    Dan ƙasar Thai zai buƙaci takardar izinin shiga don ƙasar 'ba Schengen' (wanda za a nema a cikin Netherlands, ina tsammanin mafi sauƙi, ko a Thailand a gaba). Ga wasu 'kasashen balaguron birni' wannan ba shi da wahala sosai. Wanene ya san ƙarin game da wannan, saboda wannan shine, bayan haka, mataki mai ma'ana tare da irin wannan takardar visa ta Schengen?

    Af, waɗannan ka'idodin Schengen kusan iri ɗaya ne da ka'idodin Thai na wasu nau'ikan biza! Ta yaya hakan zai kasance?

  8. Rob V. in ji a

    @ MACB 17:25: Babu wani abu don "kunna kwanaki 90 masu zuwa" (wani irin biza gudu??) . Ana ba ku izinin zama a cikin yankin Schengen na kwanaki 180 a cikin kwanaki 90: lokacin da hukumomi suka duba ku (a kan iyaka, alal misali) za su bincika kwanakin nawa kuka kasance a cikin Schengen a cikin kwanaki 180 da suka gabata. Wannan ma'auni bazai wuce kwanaki 90 ba.

    Misali: idan an duba ku a kula da iyakoki kuma sun ga cewa kun riga kun kasance a cikin yankin Schengen na kwanaki 180 (a jere a jere) a cikin kwanaki 80 da suka gabata, za a sanar da ku cewa har yanzu kuna da ragowar ma'auni na kwanaki 10 Don haka za ku dawo a rana ta 10 a ƙarshe. Dole ne ku tafi ku zauna na ɗan lokaci. Har sai ku - duba baya a cikin kwanaki 180 - kuna da isassun kwanaki a sake buɗewa. Don haka ba za ku iya fita waje da Schengen na ɗan lokaci ba bayan kwanaki 90 (tafiya na birni zuwa London, alal misali, saboda Burtaniya ba ta cikin yankin Schengen). Sa'an nan kuma sake shigar da Schengen bayan 'yan kwanaki, dole ne ku zauna aƙalla kwanaki 90 don gina isasshen ma'auni. Idan kun bar yankin Schengen a kan "tafiya na birni" na ɗan lokaci, babu wani abin da za a kunna, mutane da gaske ba sa son yuwuwar gudanar da biza, saboda lokacin ɗan gajeren lokaci visa (max 90 days per 180 days) na iya zama. ana amfani dashi a aikace.don zama mara iyaka. Mutane ba sa son hakan. Idan kana son zama na tsawon lokaci, dole ne ka nemi izinin zama. Don haka gudanar da Visa ba zai yiwu ba tare da visa na Schengen, ma'ana kuma mai sauƙi.

    Tabbas kuna da 'yanci don kewaya yankin Schengen gwargwadon yadda kuke so tare da Schengen (shigarwa da yawa !!) visa ko ma yin tafiye-tafiye a wajen yankin Schengen (tafiya na birni zuwa London, Moscow, Bangkok,… Ba su kasance a cikin yankin Schengen ba fiye da kwanaki 90 daga cikin kwanaki 180.

    Za ku, don yin magana (misali mahaukaci). samun damar ci gaba da billa sama da ƙasa: kwana 1 a Amsterdam, kwana 1 a London/Bangkok/… (tabbatar da cewa kuna da haƙƙin zama a waccan ƙasar da ba ta Schengen ba), kwana 1 a Amsterdam, kwana 1 a London. Sa'an nan za ku kasance a cikin yankin Schengen na rabin kowane kwanaki 180 - kwanaki 90. Don haka kuna iya tafiya kowace rana, kowace shekara, muddin visa ta kasance mai aiki ...

    Madaidaicin takardar izinin shiga 1 na ƙarewa bayan shigarwa ta farko: idan kuna da takardar izinin kwana 90, kun sauka a Schiphol tare da irin wannan bizar ta 1 kuma kun dawo bayan mako guda, ba za ku iya neman wani mai biza iri ɗaya ba. shigar sau. Don haka kuna da takardar izinin shiga da yawa don ku iya shiga ciki da fita daga Schengen sau da yawa "kwanaki 90 a cikin kwanaki 180".

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    @HansNL12:51: Rubutun da kuka kawo daga wancan wikipedia An rubuta ɗan ƙaramin bayani, tushen EU na hukuma (mafi aminci fiye da wikipedia ko ta yaya) ya haifar da wannan fayyace:
    - http://europa.eu/youreurope/citizens/travel/entry-exit/non-eu-family/index_en.htm

    Don haka ba kwa buƙatar biza don yankin Schengen idan abokin tarayya yana da izinin zama daga ƙasar Schengen. 'yan uwa suna tafiya tare da ku kuma suna da izinin zama tare da bayanin cewa abokin tarayya ne na ɗan ƙasa na EU. Kuna iya samun irin wannan izinin zama kawai ta hanyar bin hanyar EU (misali: ɗan ƙasar Holland wanda ya ɗan yi zama / aiki a Belgium ko Jamus, ɗan ƙasar Belgian wanda ya zauna/yi aiki a Netherlands ko Spain na ɗan lokaci). Izinin zama na al'ada na Dutch kawai yana faɗi cewa ɗaya abokin tarayya ne na *suna*. Bayan hanyar EU, baƙon ya kamata ya karɓi takardar izinin zama wanda ke nuna cewa abokin tarayya ne na EU/EC ɗan ƙasa, don haka mutum ya faɗi ƙarƙashin haƙƙin EU ba dokar Holland ba (sanannen labarin nuna wariya ga ɗan ƙasa a cikin ƙasarsa). saboda dokokin EU sun dawwama tsawon shekaru kuma dokokin kasa yanzu sun zama masu tsauri fiye da yarjejeniyar EU ...).

    Magana akan hanyar EU: Dangane da hukuncin BRAX, memba na iyali zai iya shiga ba tare da biza ba idan kun yi hanyar EU. An tattauna wannan a baya akan tarin fuka: Ba tare da visa na abokin tarayya na Thai zuwa Netherlands ba . Don 99% na masu karatu, saboda haka kawai batun neman VKV ne ko tafiya akan izinin zama tsakanin Schengen da Thailand (to ba kwa buƙatar VKV).

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    Ina tsammanin yanzu an faɗi komai game da bizar shiga Mulity. Wannan shine inda zan so in bar gudunmawata zuwa wannan abun blog. A matsayin kari, wannan. Kwanan nan an sanar da cewa visa ta VKV na Colombia da Peru za ta ƙare, ma'ana cewa kusan dukkanin ƙasashe na nahiyoyi na Amurka ba a cire su daga VKV. Ina tsammanin wani abu makamancin haka yana zuwa ga Turkiyya. Muna fatan sauran kasashe a kudu maso gabashin Asiya suma za a kebe su daga VKV a cikin shekaru masu zuwa. Zai yi kyau idan Thais ba sa buƙatar VKV, saboda a halin yanzu kawai ya shafi wasu ƙasashen Asiya na SE (ciki har da Japan da Koriya ta Kudu). Zai yi kyau idan Turawa za su iya zama a Thailand ba tare da biza ba na kwanaki 90 a cikin kwanaki 180 kuma Thais na iya yin kwanaki 90 a cikin kwanaki 180 a yankin Schengen ba tare da biza ba. Duba:
    http://www.buitenlandsepartner.nl/showthread.php?58904-afschaffing-Schengen-visum-voor-Columbia-en-Peru

    • MACB in ji a

      @ RobV 14.07: Babban bayani, Rob! Na gode sosai don wannan ƙari! Visas filin nawa ne; Kafin ka sani za ku taka ma'adinai! 'kwanaki 90 daga cikin kwanaki 180' suna sanya 'shiga da yawa' mara amfani ga mai tambaya, saboda jimlar lokacin ingancin visa shine (Maris 14-Agusta 25 =) kwanaki 165, idan na ƙidaya daidai.

      Saboda haka shigarwa na gaba zai yiwu ne kawai idan na 1st (da duk wani mai zuwa) zai kasance ƙasa da kwanaki 90, kuma jimlar zaman na 1st da duk wani shigarwar da ya biyo baya har zuwa 24 ga Agusta ba zai wuce (90-1=) kwanaki 89 ba. .su ne. Ainihin, matar Gerrit ba za ta iya zama a cikin Netherlands fiye da 24- (90-180 =) 165-15 (= Agusta 1) = kwanaki 25 har zuwa Agusta 74, don fara wani lokaci na gaba na matsakaicin Kwanaki 25 a ranar 90 ga Agusta a ƙarshe. na iya farawa, wanda na farko (15+1=) 16 na cikin '90 na farko cikin kwanaki 180' sauran kuma na cikin kwanaki 2 '90 daga cikin kwanaki 180'. Na kuma fahimci dalilin da yasa ake buƙatar samfurin lissafi!

      Abin da ya buge ni shi ne cewa hanyoyin bayar da biza ba a yi aiki da su ba tukuna. Maiyuwa yana da alaƙa da dokar 'keɓaɓɓen bayanan sirri'. Yawan aikace-aikacen yana ninka sau biyu kowane shekaru 5-10, saboda haka fitar da tsarin asali ta ƙasashe da yawa, wanda kuma dole ne ku biya ƙarin (kamar a nan). Kwarewar kwanan nan tare da aikace-aikacen visa mai sauƙi (a Bangkok) don wasu ƙasashe yana ba da hoto mai ban tausayi: jerin layukan masu nema marasa iyaka, da ƙari (ba a ambata a cikin gidajen yanar gizo ba) takaddun da ake buƙata.

      • Rob V. in ji a

        An bayar da bizar budurwar Gerrit tsakanin Maris 14, 2014 da Agusta 25, 2015, wanda shine kwanaki 529 (ko 530 idan kuma kuna ƙidaya 25 ga Agusta). Kwanaki 529/90 = 5.877. Abin takaici, kawai ƙasa da cikakkun lokuta 6 na kwanaki 90. Daga 14 ga Maris, budurwar Gerrit za ta iya zuwa na kwanaki 90, ta yi nesa kwana 90, ta zo kwana 90, ta yi kwana 90, ta zo kwana 90 sannan kuma ta daina kwana 90 (wanda ya kawo jimlar zuwa 540). kwanaki kuma za ta kasance sau 3 cikakken lokaci). Don haka kwanaki 10-11 bayan izinin shiga da yawa ya ƙare, za ta iya sake zuwa na kwanaki 90 (a kan sabon biza ba shakka). Idan sun yanke shawarar kada su yi amfani da cikakkun kwanaki 90 a kowane lokaci, zai zama ƙarin lissafi idan kuna son tsara komai.

        Da zarar kun zaɓi ranar isowa da ranar tashi, tambaya ɗaya kawai da isowa ita ce "Shin na riga na kasance a yankin Schengen na kwanaki 180 a cikin kwanaki 90 na ƙarshe?" Idan amsar ita ce “a’a, ba ka da” to tana nan lafiya. Idan amsar ita ce "eh, kun riga kun kasance a kan haka" to dole ne ta zaɓi kwanan wata shigarwa daga baya. Hakanan ya shafi ranar tashi: "Shin na riga na kasance a yankin Schengen na kwanaki 180 a cikin kwanaki 90 na ƙarshe?" , Amsar ita ce "eh, kun kasance a/kamar hakan" to ranar dawowa yayi nisa kuma dole ne ku zaɓi kwanan ranar tashi.

        Dangane da batun fitar da kayayyaki, bisa ga lambar visa ta yanzu, duk mutanen da suka nemi VKV a Mutanen Espanya, Yaren mutanen Sweden, Dutch, Danish, Belgian, ... ofishin jakadanci ba dole ba ne su bi ta VFS Global ko TLSContact kwata-kwata. . Na zabo kadan:
        - De Ofishin Jakadancin Holland bai ambaci HAKKIN yin amfani da su kai tsaye ba tare da tsoma baki ba
        isowar VFS Duniya (don haka ba tare da ƙarin farashi ba 470 baht). Sun tabbatar da imel cewa da gaske za ku iya yin ajiyar kuɗi ba tare da VFS ba.
        - De Ofishin Jakadancin Belgium labari iri daya. Ana kuma maganarsa VFS Duniya 275 baht ba tare da ambaton haƙƙin alƙawari kai tsaye ba.
        - De Ofishin Jakadancin Jamus yin alƙawura ba tare da fitar da waje ba, don haka alƙawari kai tsaye.
        - De Ofishin Jakadancin Faransa yana amfani da outsourcing ta hanyar Tuntun TLS 1250 baht (!!) amma bayar da rahoto da kyau cewa mutanen da ba sa so ko ba za su iya amfani da wannan mai ba da sabis na waje suma suna iya tuntuɓar ofishin jakadancin da kanta. Lafiya da tsabta bisa ga Code Visa.
        - De Ofishin Jakadancin Danish kuma aika mutane zuwa VFS Duniya da 790 baht. An kuma bayar da rahoton cewa zai iya daukar akalla makonni 2 kafin a sami alƙawari, bisa ga lambar visa, dole ne a ba da alƙawari a cikin kwanaki 15 kuma a yanke shawara a cikin makonni 2 (ana iya jinkirta wannan shawarar a wasu sharuɗɗa). ).
        - De Ofishin Jakadancin Sweden kuma ya wajabta wa mutane zuwa VFS Duniya a 726 baht.
        - De Ofishin Jakadancin Spain. Abin baƙin ciki babu shafi kan yadda ake neman visa, amma ina tsammanin na fahimci cewa su ma sun wajabta ku VFS Duniya Kudin 874 baht.
        - De Ofishin Jakadancin Italiya yana amfani VFS Duniya baht 500 amma an ruwaito cewa zaku iya bin umarnin alƙawari kai tsaye a ofishin jakadancin.
        - De Ofishin Jakadancin Austria kuma aika mutane zuwa VFS Duniya 1120 baht (!!) ba tare da ambaton haƙƙin alƙawari kai tsaye a wajen VFS ba.
        – (….)

        Ban duba sauran ofisoshin jakadancin Schengen ba, amma yanayin ya fito fili, yawancin ofisoshin jakadanci suna aiki tare da mai ba da sabis na waje kuma yawancin ba su ambaci 'yancin yin alƙawari kai tsaye ba.

        • MACB in ji a

          Ah, a yi hakuri! Babu wani abu da ya fi sauƙi fiye da kuskuren rubutu a sarari (kuma ƙarami)! Ba kwanaki 165 ba, amma 529/530, kawai gajeriyar 3 x 180, amma kuna iya la'akari da hakan (Ina tsammanin) ta wurin zama ƙasa da kwanaki 90 na ƙarshe.

          Girmamawa ga babban ilimin ku a wannan yanki na VKV! Ya cancanci a yi rikodin a cikin fayil!

          Ee, fitar da kaya zuwa VFS da makamantansu bai kamata ya zama ba komai ba ga mai nema saboda ofishin jakadancin yana da hakki don taimaka muku. Yana ceton ofisoshin jakadanci aiki mai yawa kuma yawanci ayyuka masu tsada, saboda irin wannan aikin tabbas an fi aiwatar da shi a cikin sassan ofishin jakadancin ta ma'aikatan ƙasa (watau Dutch, Belgium, da sauransu). Mutane yanzu suna cin abinci biyu!

  9. Rob V. in ji a

    Na yi la'akari da ayyukan da oh-so-fine VFS Gobal ke bayarwa, don haka wannan "sabis" ya kamata ya zama na zaɓi bisa ga ka'idar Visa don haka mutum zai iya yin alƙawari a ofishin jakadancin kai tsaye ba tare da ƙarin farashi ba. . Don haka ba tare da mai bada sabis na waje kamar VFS Global ba.

    Belgians kuma suna amfani da VFS Global a Thailand. Ofishin Jakadancin Belgium kuma ba daidai ba (!) yana nufin mutane zuwa VFS Gobal: http://www.diplomatie.be/bangkok/default.asp?id=28&mnu=28&ACT=5&content=88

    Ba wai kawai abin mamaki ba ne cewa ƙasashen Schengen da yawa sun keta ka'idodin Visa ta rashin ambaton cewa ba lallai ba ne mutum ya je VFS, masu karatun mu na Flemish kuma suna lura da biyan kuɗi kaɗan don "sabis" iri ɗaya na ajiyar kan layi. Suna biyan farashin 275 baht, Dutch suna biyan baht 470 tun ƙarshen shekarar da ta gabata (da kuma 275 baht). Me yasa aka bambanta sabis ɗaya??

    Wataƙila lokaci don masu karatun mu na Flemish su tambayi ofishin jakadancin su na Belgium a Bangkok game da waɗannan ayyuka / wajibai (waɗanda ke cin karo da lambar Visa)? Ina jin tsoron cewa babban ikon EU zai yi wani abu ... Na aika saƙon imel zuwa Hukumar EU, Sashen Harkokin Cikin Gida, hakan yana yiwuwa. a nan.


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