Ferd Grapperhaus (Nancy Beijersbergen / Shutterstock.com)

"Eh, ni ne Minista Ferd Grapperhaus na Shari'a da Tsaro kuma ni ke da alhakin, a tsakanin sauran abubuwa, na tabbatar da cewa an kulle masu laifi. Me nake yi a nan Bangkok? To, ‘yan majalisar wakilai ne suka aiko ni nan domin in yi kokarin ganin wanda aka yanke masa hukuncin daurin shekaru 103 a gidan yari, amma an yi sa’a sai da na yi shekara 20, daga cikin dakin da ake tsare da shi don ci gaba da ci gaba da gudanar da hukuncin da aka yanke masa a kasar Netherlands. Majalisar wakilai za ta fi son mutumin ya koma Netherlands tare da ni.

Na yi zantawa kan wannan batu da Firayim Minista mai kula da shi a nan. An tarbe ni da shan shayi, mun dan yi ta hira a kan yadda jirgin yake, ko na samu barci da sauransu, amma sai na so in yi magana a kan dalilin zuwa na. Lokacin da na ambaci sunan Van Laarhoven, mutumin ya dube ni da magana kamar me wannan mutumin yake magana akai? Van Laarhoven? Fursuna a Thailand? shekaru 20? Akwai dubunnan dubbai a gidajen yarin Thai, dubu da dama daga cikinsu baƙi ne, shin mutumin yana tunanin na san duk shari'ar laifuka?

Lokacin da na bayyana cewa muna son mutumin ya cika hukuncinsa a Netherlands, na ga Firayim Minista yana tunani (ba!), Amma Thais sun kasance abokantaka kuma ya ce Thailand ta fahimci burin Holland. A gaskiya ma, ya riga ya bayyana a gare ni bayan minti goma cewa ziyarar ba za ta haifar da komai ba, amma mun sami damar tsawaita tattaunawar zuwa minti 45.

Ina gaya muku wannan "ba a cikin tarihin", saboda ba zan iya isa ga majalisar wakilai da wannan sakon ba. Kun san menene, kawai ku rubuta labari don jaridarku da wani abu kamar haka:

"Ministan Grapperhaus yana da kyakkyawan fata bayan tattaunawa da Firayim Ministan Thailand. Ya sami kyakkyawan hali na hukumomin Thailand yana ƙarfafawa sosai. Grapperhaus ya nuna cewa mafita a cikin lamarin 'dole ne ya dace da ka'idojin doka na kasashen biyu'. Wannan yana nufin cewa canja wurin Van Laarhoven daga kurkuku a Thailand zuwa Netherlands bai kamata ya saba wa dokar Thai ba. Ministan ya ce firaministan kasar Thailand Janar Prayut Chan-o-cha ya tausaya kuma ya fahimci tarihin ziyarar tasa. Amma ya kuma yi gargadin a mai da hankali: har yanzu ba a tabbatar da cewa Van Laarhoven na iya komawa Netherlands da gaske ba. "

Can kuna da shi, na yi iya ƙoƙarina! Da kyau, saboda dole in bar yanzu. Thomas ya yi mini alkawari, yayin da nake Thailand, zai kuma nuna mani kyakkyawan gefen Bangkok. Da farko abin da za ku ci a gidan abinci tare da jita-jita na Thai na yau da kullun sannan kuma abin sha a Soi Cowboy ko Patpong?

38 martani ga "Tattaunawar Grapperhaus da 'yar jarida a Bangkok"

  1. Dennis in ji a

    Zuwan KL875 da karfe 09.50:876 na safe, tare da rakiya zuwa gidan Prayut, tattaunawa da ministocin kuma aka mayar da su Suvarnabhumi don kama jirgin KL12.05 na dawowa da karfe XNUMX:XNUMX na rana. Dole ne komai ya yiwu kuma a dawo gida kafin karshen mako... Babu lokacin jin daɗi….

    • KhunKarel in ji a

      Wannan madaidaicin lokaci ne, don haka tabbas ba lallai ne ya tsaya a layi don samar da hotunan yatsa ba.
      Kuma a sa'an nan Rori (daga baya) shi ma kuskure ne a tunanin ya ga Grapperhaus yana shiga Candyland 🙂

    • rudu in ji a

      Sannan watakila ba ya cikin ajin shanu na KLM, domin mai yiwuwa ba za ka tsira daga cikin dogayen jirage biyu a jere ba.
      Lallai ya kasance gajeriyar zance.
      Sa'o'i 2 da mintuna 15 don sauka daga jirgin sama, zuwa Prayut, yi hira kuma ku dawo cikin jirgin a lokacin tashi.

    • Ger Korat in ji a

      An ba wa ministoci damar yin amfani da na’urorin gwamnati, musamman a yanzu da ya tafi kasar Thailand bisa nacewar majalisar wakilai. Wata sabuwar na'ura ta kasance tun wannan watan kuma tana kashe Yuro miliyan 90.
      Kar a yi tunanin ya tashi da KLM saboda lokacin hutu ne a Turai don haka tabbas zai cika. Bugu da kari, ba ya tafiya shi kadai, na kiyasta, amma yana da mataimaki kuma watakila mutane 2 ko 3 daga bangaren shari'a tare da shi, da kuma babban mai gabatar da kara da mambobi 1 zuwa 3 na ofishin jakadancin Thailand don tallafawa wannan ziyarar aiki. Wannan zato ne na, amma kowa zai fahimci cewa tawagar jami'a ba ta yin jirgin da aka tsara wanda ya cika a cikin watan hutu tare da masu yawon bude ido a cikin gajeren wando da slippers.

      Duba hanyar haɗin kan sabuwar na'ura:
      https://www.nrc.nl/nieuws/2019/07/06/regeringsvliegtuig-is-vooral-een-werkpaard-met-alleen-oranje-wingtips-a3966333#photo

      • Loe in ji a

        Yana iya yiwuwa su tafi da jirgin gwamnati, amma in ba haka ba suna tafiya 1st class tare da KLM
        kuma ba dole ba ne su zauna a cikin masu yawon bude ido a cikin gajeren wando.
        Af, waɗannan ma'aikatan 1-3 na ofishin jakadancin Thai sun riga sun kasance a Bangkok don haka suna buƙatar taimako
        Ba don tashi da 🙂

        • Ger Korat in ji a

          Ofishin Jakadancin Thai… na Hague.
          Jirgin gwamnati yana can daidai don ayyukan gwamnati irin wannan.

  2. KhunKarel in ji a

    Ha Ha, yadda abin ban mamaki daidai yake, amma ina ganin hakika daidai ne.
    Abin da ya ba ni mamaki shi ne cewa mutumin da ya fi dacewa ya ɓace gaba ɗaya yayin ganawar da Prayut. D'an guntun tsaki yaja ya nufi Prayut wanda ya kamata yayi kama da bugu kuma bai ga Prayut yana ƙoƙarin girgiza hannunsa ba, dole ne ya zama lag na jet.
    Ina jin tsoron cewa wannan manufa ba zai yiwu ba, amma yanzu suna iya nuna cewa suna ƙoƙarin gyara kuskuren (firam ɗin wani).
    Patpong ko Soi kaboyi? Ee, hakan zai yi kyau sannan ku ɗauki hoto ku aika zuwa Telegraaf. 🙂 🙂

  3. Kece janssen in ji a

    Na riga na amsa sau da yawa cewa ofishin jakadanci zai iya tattauna wannan cikin sauƙi. To, ko shakka babu Firayim Minista ba ya da masaniya game da duk laifukan da suka shafi laifuka.
    Kuma eh, dole ne a fara kammala ƙarar.
    Tun da ba a shirya wannan ba, babu wani dalili na neman wots.
    Kuma har ya zuwa ina ne Fira Ministan ya dauki wannan da muhimmanci?
    Don Kirsimeti a Netherlands? A utopiya

  4. Unclewin in ji a

    Me yasa kawai ga wancan Mista Laarhoven? Shin babu sauran 'yan ƙasar Holland waɗanda su ma dole su rayu a cikin yanayi iri ɗaya?

    • Bz in ji a

      A'a, wannan wani lamari ne na musamman wanda jihar Holland ke da laifi gaba ɗaya saboda an kama Mista Laarhoven da matarsa ​​​​Thailand tare da tsare shi a Thailand. Ya isa an rubuta game da abin da ya faru a nan. A wannan yanayin yana da ma'ana cewa kasar Holland ta dauki mataki don gyara wannan kuskure. Wannan ya bambanta da gaskiyar cewa kawai ƙoƙari a nan shi ne samun mutumin Holland wanda aka daure a Tailandia zuwa Netherlands, saboda akwai wasu da yawa daga cikinsu.

      Gaisuwa mafi kyau. Bz

    • KhunKarel in ji a

      Ee, akwai, amma ba sa nan ta wurin laifin wani babban mai gabatar da kara na ƙasar Holland.

    • caspar in ji a

      Haka ne, akwai wasu, ciki har da cin zarafin yara, kuna so ku kawo su Netherlands ???
      Bari su ji rauni a gidan yarin Thai ya zama mafi kyawun abin da za a yi ko a'a ???

    • Dieter in ji a

      Amma duk suna da wadatar ƙazanta kamar "Mr" Laarhoven? Ban ce ba.

  5. Dre in ji a

    Jumla daya ta sa na yi tunani. "A zahiri a bayyane bayan mintuna 10 cewa ziyarar ba za ta haifar da komai ba, amma mun sami damar tsawaita tattaunawar na karin mintuna 35." To sauran mintuna XNUMX na karamar magana......

    • labarin in ji a

      Sakon karya ne kawai wannan yanki.

  6. John Chiang Rai in ji a

    Dangane da martanin da Prayut ya yi cewa ko kaɗan bai san wace ɗaurin kurkukun Grapperhuis ke magana a kai ba, na ɗauka cewa dukan aikin ba a shirya ba ko kaɗan.
    Idan kun kafa irin wannan manufa, shi ma daga Ned ne. Dole ne a biya mai biyan haraji, har yanzu kuna ɗauka cewa an yi wasiku kafin lokacin.
    Gaskiyar cewa Prayut ya yi fuska lokacin da ya ji sunan Van Laarhoven, abin da wannan mutumin yake magana a duniya, ya bar shakku sosai game da shirye-shiryen ƙwararru don wannan tafiya.

    • Raymond Kil in ji a

      cynicism na marubuci. An rubuta da kyau.

  7. rori in ji a

    Yayi kyau amma bai yi nisa ba.
    Af, ina tsammanin na ga wani mai sanko yana shiga Candyland tare da wani kyakkyawan mace

  8. Erik in ji a

    Ba wai kawai kuna shiga ofishin Prayuth ba kuma ba shakka wannan tattaunawar an shirya sosai; a wannan matakin mutum ya san fayilolin mutum. Amma akwai yuwuwar asarar fuska a ɓangarorin biyu don haka akwai sanannen ajiyar waje zuwa duniyar waje.

    Hukuncin da aka yanke a ranar Talata ne kuma ba za mu taba jin ko/yadda ziyarar G ta kara saurin yanke hukuncin ba. Idan wannan hukuncin yana nufin ƙarshen hanyoyin, ana iya ƙaddamar da hanyar WOTS don 'shi' kuma, idan ya cancanta, neman gafara ga 'ta'. Shari'ar WOTS na iya ɗaukar watanni, amma tare da masu tasiri masu dacewa a bayansa ana iya yin shi da sauri. Kila lafiyarsu ita ce abin yanke hukunci.

    Ina tsammanin cewa ma'auratan za su kasance a cikin Netherlands don Kirsimeti. Ƙarshen shari'ar Machiel K kuma ya ƙara ƙara lokacin da Majalisar ta shiga cikin lamarin.

  9. Jan in ji a

    Ya Ubangiji, idan wannan ita ce gaskiya ko watakila ya kasance...,
    kun rasa duk wani imani ga ma'aikatan gwamnati, ministoci, Firayim Minista da jiha!

    Kuma lallai tafiya ta biya daga walat ɗin ɗan ƙasar Holland.
    Amma shin wannan labarin gaskiya ne?

  10. L. Burger in ji a

    Kyakkyawan shafi.
    Ƙarin irin waɗannan tunanin 555

  11. L. Burger in ji a

    Wataƙila za su iya aika Hans van Baalen.
    Ya taba dawowa daga Thailand ba tare da wani aiki ba.
    Wannan ya tsotsa.

  12. Jack in ji a

    Sashe na biyu yanzu ya yi amfani da joker don van Laarhoven. Kuma wannan mai barkwanci yanzu yana da hutu a kuɗin mutanen Holland. Wannan shine yadda suke tafiyar da kuɗin haraji.

    • Maryama. in ji a

      Abin da na yi tunani kenan lokacin da na ji cewa zai tafi Bangkok, domin ya kai wannan mutumin kasar Netherlands, tabbas wannan minista ya so ya yi balaguro zuwa Thailand da kudin harajin mu, za mu yi tanadin tikiti da masauki, haka nan. yana aiki anan..

      • Leo Th. in ji a

        Ee, Marijke, jirgin na sa'o'i 11 zuwa Thailand sannan kuma jirgin na sa'o'i 12 ya koma Netherlands bayan 'yan sa'o'i, tabbas ya kasance 'tafiya' da ministar ke sa rai sosai. Da fatan har yanzu ministan yana da wasu mil mil don fansa don kada 'mu' ya yi tanadi mai yawa don tikitin. Ga sauran, na yarda da martanin RuudB a ƙasa.

    • Cornelis in ji a

      'Hutu a kudin mutanen Holland'? Wataƙila za ku iya bayyana hakan kaɗan?

  13. Dauda H. in ji a

    Duk da haka, a nan an gabatar da shi gaba daya daban.

    https://www.ad.nl/politiek/grapperhaus-thailand-bereid-te-werken-aan-oplossing-in-zaak-van-laarhoven~a0b2e54a/?referrer=https://www.google.be/

  14. Josef in ji a

    Amsa ga jumlar "Wannan yana nufin cewa canja wurin Van Laarhoven daga kurkuku a Tailandia zuwa Netherlands DOLE BA JE DOKAR THAI". Wane hakki?? A Tailandia, babu wani abu, babu komai, daidai ne. Duk abin da ke nan yana karkatacce, mai sassauƙa da na roba, idan dai dama kuma, sama da duka, ana amfani da isassun man shafawa.

  15. Jacques in ji a

    Kyakkyawan yanki kuma hanya ce ta kallon wannan. Ina da ra'ayi daban-daban kuma na ga rashin mutunci sosai, musamman ma bangaren kamar kowa a duniya yana tunanin "soi kaboyi" shine Valhalla. Ina tsammanin Grapperhaus yana da ɗan ƙaramin aji a cikinsa fiye da matsakaicin yawon shakatawa na jima'i kuma baya damuwa da shi.
    Kuma wannan mai sanko tabbas an rufe shi da jarfa, don haka ba zai iya zama Grapperhaus ba.
    Ina fata Van Laarhoven cewa ziyararsa ta yi tasiri, ta yadda a ƙarshe za a iya mika shi kuma ya yi zaman daurin shekaru 20 a ƙasar Netherlands. Hakanan ana iya biyan ɗakinsa da jirgi daga kuɗin harajinmu.

    • rori in ji a

      Wataƙila an rubuta wannan yanki cikin ɓacin rai daga mahangar Dutch. amma ga Thais ba a rasa fuska kuma babu tsoma baki a cikin lamuranmu da kuma cikin kasarmu.
      An rubuta labarin a fili tare da yadda zai iya zama mai hankali ga Thai. OOPs, wani farang yana zuwa ya gaya mana yadda za mu yi.

      Na yi aiki da ɗan Belgium kuma a baya ɗan ƙasar Holland kuma na san yadda al'amura ke da mahimmanci. A koyaushe ina ɗaukar abokin aikina na Thai wanda ya yi aiki a Turai kusan shekaru 5 kuma yana iya fassara tunaninmu cikin jin Thai.

  16. KhunKarel in ji a

    @ Ina tsammanin Grapperhaus yana da ɗan ƙaramin aji a cikinsa fiye da matsakaitan yawon shakatawa na jima'i kuma baya damuwa da shi. Kuma wannan mai sanko tabbas an rufe shi da jarfa, don haka ba zai iya zama Grapperhaus ba

    Don haka kuna tunanin wannan blog ɗin ba ta da mutunci, to tabbas ba ku da ɗan ilimin mutane ko gogewar rayuwa a wannan yanki, za ku yi mamakin idan kun san mutane nawa masu 'class' suke yi ko kuma suna son abu ɗaya da wancan ɗan yawon shakatawa na jima'i.
    Abinda kawai zai iya hana su shine sun shahara sosai, ko kuma hakan na iya cutar da aikinsu.

    Yanzu kuna nuna wariya ga mutanen da ke da jarfa, yayin da babban rukuni na mutane suna da jarfa, yanzu kun ga jami'an 'yan sanda a kan titi tare da jarfa. watakila tsoffin abokan aikin ku, da Yarima Bernhard ma yana da ɗaya.

  17. RuudB in ji a

    Menene tare da 'yan'uwanmu cewa kawai suna amsawa tare da ƙuduri ga makomar Van L. Kuma yanzu kuma tare da cynicism, har ma da sarcasm. Lura: Ina magana ne game da halayen gaba ɗaya. Bari mu fatan cewa idan daya daga cikin masu amsa shi ma ya mutu ba zato ba tsammani a gidan yarin Thai bisa dalilan da ba su cika ba, zai sami ƙarin tausayi.
    Me ke faruwa a zahiri? Yawancin martani ga labarin da ya gabata game da ziyarar Ministan JenV zuwa TH sun dogara ne akan gaskiya. Domin abin da ke da mahimmanci shi ne cewa an aika da buƙatar taimakon doka zuwa Thailand a lokacin, saboda NL yana son bayani game da yadda Van L. ke zaune a TH. An yi amfani da tsararru mara kyau. Misali, kalmar 'wanda ake zargi' bai kamata a saka shi cikin wannan buƙatar ba. Manufar neman taimakon shari'a don haka shine don samun shaidar Dutch. Ba don sadaukar da Van L. a gaba ba. Amma duk da haka ya faru. A hankali?

    Sakamakon karshe dai shi ne hukuncin farko na shekaru 103, inda aka rage shi zuwa shekaru 75 a daukaka kara, tare da tanadin cewa za a sake shi bayan shekaru 20 kawai. Duk jihar da ta mutunta doka za ta ji kunya. Don Allah a lura: don gaskiyar da NL ke nema, da Van L. zai kasance a kurkuku na kusan shekara guda a cikin ƙasarsa. Idan Van L. ya kasance yana da wayo kuma ya koma Sweden ko Kanada, da an tuhume shi da dadewa kuma da an yi shi da Ma'aikatar Shari'a a cikin 2017. Van L. dole ne ya je TH idan ya cancanta kuma ya san hakan.
    Bari mu sake bayyana cewa Hukumar Shari'ar Jama'a a Breda ba ta yi niyyar yaudarar Van L.! Duk da haka? A takaice: NL yana da abin da zai gyara. Kuma Grapperhaus ya yi hakan. Nuna

    Gaskiyar cewa akwai irin wannan amsa mai karfi ga ziyarar Grapperhaus zuwa TH yana da duk abin da ya shafi ƙananan masu sharhi. Suna tsammanin ba daidai ba ne cewa ana kare Van L.. Idan kun kalli martanin da kyau, zaku iya karanta hassada mai yawa tsakanin layin. Yawancin wadanda suka amsa sun yi imanin cewa gwamnatin NL ta yi musu katutu.
    Ana rage su, amma minista na gaske yana shirye don Van L. Hujjar da ba ta da ma'ana, saboda: rinjayen jin daɗin zama "Calimero" ya faru ne saboda takaicin ku. Al'amarin Van L. saboda manyan kurakuran tsari. Shi ne abin da yake, kuma shi ke nan. Again: lokaci!

  18. Miel in ji a

    Eh da kyau, ƴan baht a bayan fage suna yin abubuwan al'ajabi

  19. Kunamu in ji a

    Kuma idan Van Laarhoven ya zo Netherlands, kuna iya tsammanin zai kai ƙarar ƙasar Holland daidai. Ba na jin wannan ya ƙare har yanzu.

    • Dennis in ji a

      Suke don me? Har yanzu dai ana ci gaba da gudanar da bincike (daga ma'aikatar shari'ar jama'a). Van Laarhoven ba zai taɓa iya tabbatar da cewa ya sami kuɗi da yawa bisa doka tare da kantin kofi ba. Wannan ita ce tambayar farko da alkali zai yi; "Mista Van Laarhoven, da fatan za a nuna mani asusun ku." Kuma ku yarda da ni, hakan zai haifar da tambayoyi fiye da amsoshi.

      Mista van Laarhoven da kansa ya tafi Thailand (ya gudu ...) kuma yana da kyau a ce neman taimakon shari'a daga Ma'aikatar Shari'ar Jama'a ta Holland "rashin kulawa". Amma rashin kulawa a bisa doka ya sha bamban da haram kuma domin a sami biyan diyya, wannan zai zama dole.

      A'a, Van Laarhoven zai buga shi ta hanyar kafofin watsa labarai na ɗan lokaci, yana kallon jinƙai a Jinek ko Pauw tare da (alal misali) Mista Knoops a gefensa, amma da gaske ba za mu gan shi yana samun kuɗi ba.

  20. fashi in ji a

    Bari wannan adadi ya zauna na tsawon shekaru 20 kuma ba za a sake tafiye-tafiye masu dadi daga ministoci ba. Hakanan baya kashe mai biyan harajin Dutch ko wane kuɗi.

  21. Loe in ji a

    Ina kuma ganin shekaru 5 a gidan yari ya fi abin da ake tuhumar L. da shi.
    Musamman a gidan yarin Thailand.
    Amma sai kuma a cire aƙalla Euro 20.000.000 da suka kaucewa biyan haraji.
    Sannan kudin tafiyar Graphuis shima za'a dawo dashi, 🙂

  22. Gerard in ji a

    Duk da haka... in har gwamnatin ku ta kuntata muku haka, za a bar ku da kunci!
    Ina tsammanin ba za ku taɓa yin nasara a kan waɗannan shekarun da suka ɓace ba kuma a cikin waɗannan yanayi ...


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