Mubvunzo wemuverengi: Kuenda kuThailand nemarudzi maviri

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July 25 2014

Vadiwa vaverengi,

Kunyangwe iyo nyaya yakakurukurwa kakawanda paThailandblog, haisati yanyatsojeka kwandiri.

Mudzimai wangu ane zvese THAI uye DUTCH nyika. Kana akazvizivisa papasipoti inodzora Schiphol nepasipoti yake yechiDutch, mukuru anoidhinda kuti abve kuNetherlands. Pakusvika muBANGKOK, mudzimai wangu acharatidza pasipoti yake yeTHAI, iyo isina chitambi chekuenda kubva kuSchiphol. Izvi zvamazvirokwazvo neimwe nzira parwendo rwokudzokera!

Kana aratidza pasipoti yake yeTHAI pakutonga kwepasipoti kuSchiphol, achakumbirwa mvumo yekugara / imwe pasipoti. Zvino ini ndinofunga zvingave zviri nyore kana chitambi chinobuda chiri muThai pasipoti pakubva, kuitira kuti pasave nemubvunzo muThailand kana iwe uine nyika mbiri!

Ndakanzwawo kubva kune mumwe mukadzi wechiThai kuti iye (uyewo chizvarwa chenyika mbiri) aisungirwa kubhadhara visa yeThailand mushure mekuratidza pasipoti yake yechiDutch!

Ndiani anogona kupindura mubvunzo wangu zvakajeka uye muchidimbu?

Pachokwadi,

Marco

16 mhinduro ku "Muverengi mubvunzo: Kuenda kuThailand nemarudzi maviri"

  1. Rob v. anoti kumusoro

    Mubvunzo unogara uchidzokororwa.
    Mhinduro: Shandisa pasipoti yeDutch paunosvika uye pakubva muNetherlands kana imwe nyika yeEU uye pasipoti yeThai paunopinda nekusimuka muThailand.

    Zie ok:
    - https://www.thailandblog.nl/lezersvraag/thais-en-nederlands-paspoort/
    - https://www.thailandblog.nl/lezersvraag/nederlandse-id-kaart-van-mijn-thailand-vrouw/

    • dontejo anoti kumusoro

      Hi Rob,
      Wakarurama chose. Ndozvandinogara ndichizviita nevana vangu. Kana iwe, semuThai, wapinda netsaona nepasipoti yako yeDutch, unowana kuregererwa kwemazuva makumi matatu, saka unofanirwa kubuda zvakare mushure memazuva makumi matatu. Kana ukasaita izvi, saka iwe, semuThai, uri muoverstay.. LOL ndizvo here?

      Kwaziwai, Dontejo.

  2. Rob v. anoti kumusoro

    Sezvineiwo:
    - Iyo KMar haitsikidze mapasipoti echiDutch pakubva nekusvika. MaThai haatambise pasipoti yeThai. Saka hapana chinopenga maererano nezvitambi zvekufamba.
    - Nyika dzakawanda dzinobvumidzwa kana kuti hadzina kurambidzwa muNetherlands neThailand. Kana uchida, unogona kuratidza ese mapasipoti. Sezvese Thai neDutch, vhiza haidiwi mune chero nyika, kunyangwe kana muganhu wekutonga uchiona ese mapasipoti.

    Saka iwe unodzoka ku: hapana chekunetsekana nacho chero iwe uchifamba mukati kana kubuda nepasipoti yenyika iyo iwe wakamira pamuganhu.

    • ReneH anoti kumusoro

      MuThailand, nyika mbiri inorambidzwa zvechokwadi. Ndosaka mudzimai wangu asingazove muDutch. Handizivi kuti inotariswa sei uye sei.

      • RonnyLatPrao anoti kumusoro

        Rene H

        Sekuziva kwangu, kuva vagari venyika mbiri hakuna kurambidzwa muThailand.
        Iwe unongorasikirwa neizvi kana iwe uchikumbira iwe pachako

        Chitsauko 2.
        Kurasikirwa kweThai Nationality
        __________________________
        Chikamu 13.17 Murume kana mukadzi werudzi rweThai anoroora mutorwa uye anogona
        kuwana rudzi rwemukadzi kana murume maererano nemutemo werudzi rwemukadzi wake
        kana murume wake anogona, Kana achida kuramba chizvarwa cheThai, ataure nezve
        chinangwa chake pamberi pemukuru ane hunyanzvi maererano nefomu uye nenzira
        zvinotarwa muMitemo yeMinistry.

        Kwakabva - Nationality Act BE2508
        http://www.refworld.org/pdfid/506c08862.pdf

        Asi iwe unogona kunge uine rumwe ruzivo runopesana neizvi.
        Ndokumbira upe kwaunobva

      • Rob V. anoti kumusoro

        Sei uchifunga izvozvo? Iwe unogona kusiya hurudzi hwako hweThai, asi izvo hazvidiwi kana iwe uchiziva. Kune akawanda eThais ane nyika dzakawanda kuburikidza nekuzvarwa kana kuzvarwa. Somuenzaniso Thaksin naAbhisit.

        "Nationality Act, (No.4), BE 2551 (=gore 2008)
        Chitsauko 2. Kurasikirwa kweThai Nationality.
        (...)
        13 chikamu.
        Murume kana mukadzi wekuThai anoroora mutorwa uye anogona kuwana dzinza remukadzi kana murume maererano nemutemo werudzi rwemukadzi wake.
        kana kuti murume wake anogona, Kana achida kuramba chizvarwa cheThai, kutaura chinangwa chake pamberi pemukuru ane hunyanzvi maererano nefomu uye nenzira yakatemwa muMitemo yeGurukota.

        Kunobva: http://www.refworld.org/pdfid/506c08862.pdf

        Zie ok: https://www.thailandblog.nl/lezersvraag/huwelijk-thailand-laten-registeren/#comment-288730

        • HansNL anoti kumusoro

          Dzorera!

          Abhisit HAANA chizvarwa cheBritish.
          Nekuda kwekuzvarwa kwake muEngland kare, ndinotenda 1985, ane kodzero, asi anofanira kutora izvi.
          Uye haana kumboita izvozvo.
          Akapomerwa kuti ane chizvarwa cheBritish, asi kare zvaingoitika kana wakazvarirwa kuUK.

          Thaksin akatenga mapasipoti mashoma pano neapo, zvachose zviri pamutemo nenzira.
          Pane excuse yekuti he is now shopping for sister yake......

          Sezvineiwo:
          Kupinda uye kubuda muNetherlands pane pasipoti yeDutch.
          Kupinda nekubuda kweThailand pane pasipoti yeThai.
          Iyo Dutch pasipoti haina kudhindwa neKmar.
          iyo Thai pasipoti yakadhindwa muThailand neImmigration Police.

          • Rob V. anoti kumusoro

            Ndinotenda, ndakadzidza chimwe chinhu zvakare, ini zvechokwadi ndakafunga kuti Abhisit aiva neBritish nyika nokuti ane kodzero uye zviri nyore kupinda kune dzimwe nyika (Western) pane pasipoti yeBritish kana ichienzaniswa nepasipoti yeThai. Pfungwa inoramba iripo yekuti nyika dzakawanda kuburikidza nekuzvarwa kana kuzvarwa harisi dambudziko. MuNetherlands zvakatonyanya kuoma nekuti mutemo unotaura kuti pakuzvarwa iwe unofanirwa kusiya nyika yako yekare kunze kwekunge, semuenzaniso, wakaroora mugari wechiDutch kana kuti kusiya nyika yako kune mhedzisiro isingaenzaniswi sekurasikirwa kwekodzero yenhaka, real estate, ivhu, nezvimwe.

            Hongu, iwe ucharamba uchiwana zvitambi mupasipoti yako yeThai kunze kwekunge iwe wapfuura nepamagedhi. Hazvizivikanwi kuti chii chinoitika kana mumwe munhu achida kuyambuka muganho pane yavo Thai ID kadhi, zvinogona kutaurwa mune imwe yemabloggi maviri ambotaurwa nezve chinhu ichi.

    • RonnyLatPrao anoti kumusoro

      Rob V

      "VaThai havadhindi pasipoti yeThai."
      Zvakadaro.
      Kana akashandisa zvakajairika pasipoti kutonga, anogashira zvitambi zvakafanana mupasipoti yake yeThai sezvatinoita.
      Passport yemukadzi wangu izere navo.
      Anga achishandisa electronic passport control kubva gore rapfuura uye vari kusvika zvechokwadi
      hapasisina zvitambi zvekugadzirisa.

      MuEurope anoshandisa kadhi rake rekuBelgian ID kana pasipoti yeBelgian.
      Mapeji evisa achiri mhandara nekuti hapana chinodhindwa.

  3. Jasper anoti kumusoro

    Marco,

    Mukadzi wako HAACHASHIMWA papasipoti yake yechiDutch paanoenda kuThailand. Uyezve, kuva nerudzi rwechipiri mukuwedzera kuDutch kunobvumirwa chete kana imwe nyika ichirayira izvi kana kana pane zvikonzero zvakasimba zvekuchengetedza nyika iyoyo. Zvakadai sekuva nevhu muThailand, iyo inongochengeterwa Thais. Saka chenjerai nazvo.

  4. Marcel anoti kumusoro

    Usazvinetse nazvo, anofanirwa kungogara achipinda muThailand nepasipoti yake yeThai, kana akambopinda muThailand nepasipoti yake yeDutch anorohwa nembama mumusoro kubva kutsika dzeThai. Ipapo iwe unofanirwa kumirira kwechinguva, zvakaitikawo kumudzimai wangu nemwanasikana. Ivo zvino vanopinda neThai pasipoti uye iwe haufanirwe kumirira futi, ini handinzwe ndakasununguka kupinda mumutsetse weThai.

    Marcel

  5. Goort anoti kumusoro

    Bvumirana nemutauri wekare. Mudzimai wangu ndiThai - American. Anouya oenda kunze kwenyika uye muEU papasipoti yake yekuUS otora zvitambi. Paanodzokera kuBangkok, anoratidza mapasipoti ake, asi anopinda papasipoti yake yeThai.

  6. Matenga akanaka Roger anoti kumusoro

    Shamwari yedu ine zvese zveThai neBelgian nyika uye anoratidza pasipoti yake yeBelgian paanobva kuThailand, pamwe nekusvika kuBelgium. Paanodzoka, anoratidza pasipoti yake yeThai, pakuenda nekusvika, uye haana kana dambudziko nazvo. Kuchengeta nyika yeThai, hazvina mutsauko kuti muThai ane zvivakwa kana kwete. Iwe unochengetedza nyika yako kwehupenyu hwese, kunze kwekunge wapara mhosva dzakakomba uye wakarasa kodzero dzako dzevagari.
    Ipapo unogona kurasikirwa nenyika yako. Zvinogonekawo neimwe nzira: kana uchibva kuThailand, ratidza pasipoti yake yeThai uye paunosvika kuBelgium kana kuNetherlands, muratidze pasipoti yeBelgian kana yeDutch. Ratidza pasipoti yako yeBelgian (kana yeDutch) paunodzoka uye pasipoti yako yeThai paunosvika muThailand, uye ratidza chete mapasipoti ese kana abvunzwa.

    • Davis anoti kumusoro

      Ndizvozvo Roger. Kutaura zvazviri zviri nyore. SemuThai muThailand unoshandisa pasipoti yako yeBelgian kuenda kuBelgium. Titambire. SeBelgian muBelgium unoshandisa pasipoti yako yeThai kuenda kuThailand. Ikokowo: titambire kumba. Ndiyo nyika mbiri, uye imwe yemabhenefiti.
      Asi chaizvo kushaikwa kwechibvumirano chenyika mbiri BE/TH/TH/BE chinoita kuti gaka iri rivepo. Mushure mezvose, mutemo wekuregererwa haushande pano, uye chisungo chevhiza hachishande kune rumwe rutivi. Pane anoziva here kuti sei vezvematongerwo enyika vasati vaita nyaya yeizvi (zvakadaro) ;~)

      • RonnyLatPrao anoti kumusoro

        Davis,

        Zviri nyore chaizvo, asi hazvishande sezvaunonyora.

        Kana abva kuThailand anofanira kushandisa pasipoti yake yeThai.
        Kana akaenda kuburikidza neyakajairwa pasipoti kutonga, anogashira Chitambi cheKubva mupasipoti yake.
        Kana akaenda kuburikidza nemagetsi pasipoti kutonga, hapana chichaonekwa mupasipoti yake.
        Iyo Be/NL pasipoti inofanirwa kuratidzwa chete kana yakumbirwa, uye inongoshanda sehumbowo hwekuti ane Be/NL nyika nekudaro haisi pasi pezvinodiwa zvevisa.
        Iyo ID kadhi inogonawo kuratidzwa sechitsividzo, sezvo ichi chinowanzogamuchirwa zvakare. Chaizvoizvo kwete kana zviri pamutemo, nekuti ID kadhi rinoshanda chete mukati meSchengen nyika.

        Iyo Thai pasipoti inokumbirwa munzvimbo nhatu panhandare yendege.
        Pakutarisa-mukati, paImmigration uye paboarding. Iwe unogona zvakare kubvunzwa nezve (Schengen) vhiza chero nguva. Anofanira kubva angoratidza pasipoti yake yeBelgian kana kadhi reChitupa sehumbowo hwekuti haasi pasi pechinodikanwa chevisa.

        Kana wangokwira ndege, pasipoti yeThai inogona kuchengetwa kure. Hapachadiwi chero chinhu.
        MuBe/NL, iyo Be/NL pasipoti kana ID kadhi inokwana kupfuudza kutonga kwepasipoti.

        Paanenge achibva kuBelgium, anofanirwa kumuratidza pasipoti yake yeBe/NL pakutonga kwepasipoti.
        Dai aizoratidza pasipoti yake yekuThai, vanhu vaigara vachibvunza kuti aigara sei muBe/NL uye kuti vhiza yake/pemvumo yekugara iripi.
        Kana akazoratidza pasipoti yake yeBe/NL, anozoona kuti mune ramangwana anofanira kugara achimuratidza Be/NL muBe/NL.

        Nzvimbo chete yaanogona kukumbirwa pasipoti yake yeThai ndeyekuchekwa/kupinda, kana kuti pamwe kukwira, kana aizobhururuka kuenda kuThailand kwemazuva anopfuura makumi matatu kana asina tikiti rekudzoka.
        Izvi hazvisi nguva dzose kune ndege dzese, asi neThai Airways ndinoziva kuti vanokubvunza nezvazvo paunopinda.
        Pane imwe nguva mundege, anogona kuisa Dutch / Be pasipoti kure zvakare. Hapasisina chinhu zvakare.

        Pakusvika kuThailand anoshandisa pasipoti yake yeThai.
        Kana akapasa kudzora pasipoti, anogashira chitambi chekusvika mupasipoti yake. Kana akashandisa yemagetsi pasipoti control, hapana chinopinda.

        Dual national Thais vanoshandisa mapasipoti avo eBe/NL kupinda muThailand vachabatwa sevamwe vatorwa.
        Izvo hazvigone kuzivikanwa kuti iye zvakare ane Thai nyika.
        Kungoti anoratidzika kunge Thai hazvireve kuti ndizvo.
        Kana akapinda nepasipoti yake yeDutch/Be, anogashira Visa Exemption yekugara kwemazuva makumi matatu, kana huwandu hwemazuva anoenderana nevisa yake.

        Muchidimbu
        - Pakubva kuThailand, pasipoti yeThai
        - Pakusvika muBe / NL, iyo Be / NL pasipoti kana ID kadhi.
        - Pakubva paBe/NL, iyo Be/NL pasipoti
        - Pakusvika muThailand, iyo Thai pasipoti
        Imwe pasipoti, Be/NL kana Thai zvichienderana nemamiriro ezvinhu, inofanira kungoratidzwa kana yakumbirwa

        Unorevei nekuti:
        "Chaizvoizvo kushaikwa kwechibvumirano chenyika mbiri BE/TH/TH/BE chinoita kuti gaka iri rivepo. Mushure mezvose, mutemo wekuregererwa haushande pano, uye chisungo chevhiza hachishande kune rumwe rutivi. Pane anoziva here kuti sei vezvematongerwo enyika (vasati) vaita nyaya yeizvi?

        Mukaha wei?
        Anopinda zviri pamutemo nerudzi rwenyika iyoyo, saka nei Kuregererwa kana chimwe chisungo chevhiza.
        Ini handisi kunyatsonzwisisa zvauri kureva uye kuti chibvumirano chenyika mbiri chingapei?
        Vezvematongerwo enyika vanogona kuita chimwe chinhu pamusoro penyika mbiri, asi kune vatsigiri uye vanopikisa izvi.
        Mudzimai wangu ane marudzi ose, uye kwatiri izvi zvakanaka. Saka isu tiri kutsigira nyika mbiri.
        Dual nyika parizvino inobvumidzwa muBelgium, uye maererano neruzivo rwangu zvakare muThailand.
        Nenzira, inoshandawo mune imwe nzira. MaBelgians anotora imwe nyika havachafanire kusiya nyika yavo yeBelgian (izvi hazvina kugara zvakadaro).

        • Davis anoti kumusoro

          Wadiwa Ronny,

          Ndinokutendai zvikuru netsanangudzo iyi inofadza zvikuru!
          Izvi zvinobatsira, kunyanya kuburikidza nemutauro wakajeka.

          Nezve gap, sorry but it was misguided. Dzokorora ndima iyi.
          Ndanga ndichitaura nemumiririri ndisati ndatumira mhinduro. Iye pachake akataura nezveThailand uye nyika mbiri. Takaita hurukuro shoma, uye akatanga kutaura nezve gap mumutemo maererano ne dual citizenship. Chandisina kuziva ndechekuti aitaura nezvenyika dzakaita seMorocco. Ndichiri kutaura nezve Thailand. Saka takaita nhaurirano parutivi, saka mhedziso dzangu dzandakatora kubva kumurume - aiziva zviri nani - hadzina kukodzera pano.

          Uyezve, unobvuma kuti nyika mbiri dzeBE-NL-TH dzakanaka. Shamwari yangu yakanonoka kuThai yaivewo nazvo.

          Ndinokutendai netsanangudzo yenyu, iyo, senguva dzose, iri padanho uye inotsigirwa.


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