Vadiwa vaverengi,
Imwe shamwari yangu yechiDutch yakashaya gore rino muBangkok. Akagara nemudiwa vhiza muThailand kweanopfuura makore gumi. Zviri pamutemo muNetherlands kwemakore ekupedzisira e10 nekuda kwekudiwa kweDutch kurapwa muAnthonie van Leeuwenhoek Hospital. Mwedzi mitatu yapfuura kuThailand paakanga asiri kurapwa.
Mudzimai wake weThai angada kugamuchira mari yekurapwa kwake kubva kuDutch health insurer, asi anongopa izvi ne 'Chirevo cheNhaka'. Civil-law notaries inoratidza kuti havagone kubudisa izvi nokuti Dutch mudiwa haana chido muNetherlands uye havagoni kuziva kana pane chido mairi.
Thailand ine. Chirevo chemukadzi wake weThai kuti hapana chido cheThai chinonzi hachina humbowo hwakakwana. Muchidimbu, migwagwa yese haina magumo.
Mukuwedzera, zvakafanana zvinoshanda kune mamwe mashekeri eDutch Bank.
Chandinonzwisisa ndechekuti mudzimai wake weThai nevana ve2 vane mapasipoti echiDutch vakashuma rufu kune embassy uye Declaration of Death yakabudiswa nokuda kweizvi. Akaedzawo kugadza babamunini vemushakabvu semutongi wezvichemo zveDutch izvi aine chirevo cheThai Power of Atterney. Izvo zvakare hazvizivikanwe.
Ndiani ane ruzivo nazvo? Inzira ipi yatingatevera? Gweta rinodhura haisi sarudzo. Iko hakuna liquid assets. Uye chirevo chinopesana neinishuwarenzi chinenge d 7.000 euros. Uye bhangi pamwe 15.000. Asi haakwanisi kuita izvozvo.
Ndinofarira kunzwa.
Kwaziwai
Stef
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Steve, iyi inyaya inozivikanwa. Thailand haina kunyoresa zvido seNetherlands, saka hapana vimbiso yekuti chirikadzi ine kodzero. Mukuwedzera, mufi akanga asina chido muNetherlands.
Mune imwe nyaya yandakanzwa nezvayo, mumiriri akakumbira humbowo hwekuti murume akafa akange asina kurambana nemukadzi wake mumakore gumi nemashanu muThailand…. Paiva nechido, asi chiDutch. Vagari venhaka vaive negweta raitsvaga humbowo ndokubva vatsvaga mumwe munyori wenhaka aida kutenda nyaya (yechokwadi!).
Chii chinokumbirwa nemunyori weNL? Achagutswa nei? Handizvo zvandakaverenga mumubvunzo wenyu pamusoro. Pahwaro hweizvi, zvingave zvichibvira kutsvaga humbowo hwakakumbirwa muThailand. Uchapupu hwekugara pamwe chete, hwekutenga pamwe chete, nezvimwe
Zvichaita mari!
Hapana chaanoshinga chete. Kana mumwe waanoshanda naye haadaro. Funga kuti zvine njodzi. Vanoda humbowo, asi pasina chido hapana. Ipapo havabudisi statement zvakare. Ini ndichafanira kubvisa bhangi uye inshurensi kubva pane zvinodiwa kuti ndive neChirevo ichi.
Ndakaita zvimwe chete neshamwari yangu. Akafira muThailand, akaroorwa zviri pamutemo nemukadzi wechiThai. Vose vakanga vagara muNetherlands kwemakore mashomanana mushure mekuroorana kwavo. Vakabva vagara muThailand. Shamwari yangu yakashaya uye shirikadzi yakabvunza kana ndaida kuita estate. Ndakanga ndichiri kugara muThailand panguva iyoyo.
Ndakasangana neDutch notary nekuti shamwari yangu yaive newiri yakaitwa neDutch notary pamuchato wake. Mumiriri uya akanga asisina hofisi. Asi muNetherlands kune rejista yezvido umo zvese zvido zvakanyorwa uye mucherechedzi wese muNetherlands anokwanisa kuwana iyo rejista.
Nyanzvi yandakabvunza yakaramba kuburitsa “Chirevo cheNhaka” nokuti ndakanga ndisingazivi kuti shamwari yangu yakanga yanyora wiri muThailand. MuThailand, sekuziva kwangu, hapana "Registry of Wills". Mushure mee-mail dzakawanda nekudzoka, mumiriri akaramba aine chinzvimbo chake chekuti panogona kunge paine chido chitsva muThailand.
Ndakasarudza kurega kushanda pamwe chete negweta uya ndokutsvaka munyori mutsva muguta maigara shamwari yangu. Zvinhu zvakafamba zvakanyanya, zvirinani nemunyori uya. Kune iyo notary yanga isiri nyaya yekuti muThai anoda here kana kuti kwete.
Munyori wezvinyorwa akabata zvinhu zvose zvakanaka uye akabudisa "Chirevo cheMutemo weNhaka" uye muzukuru weshamwari yangu, aigara muguta, akakwanisa kutora mari semumiririri kubhangi ndokuitumira kuchirikadzi. Yakagadziriswa mukati memwedzi miviri. Mari yacho yaibva kubhengi "regular" account uye account yekudyara.
Shamwari yangu nomudzimai wake wechiThai vaiva nemwanasikana akanga asati asvika zera repamutemo. Kodzero dzake dzakataurwawo neDutch notary.
Zano rangu nderekuti munhu anogona kuenda kune imwe notary. Ndakasanganawo neBroederschap van Notarissen. Ndakanyunyuta nezve nzira yekushanda yekutanga notary. Nekuda kweizvozvo, wekutanga notary haana kutumira invoice.
Zvinhu zviviri zvakakosha. Mumwe anofanira kunge akaroora zviri pamutemo, kungave kuNetherlands kana kuThailand. Kuroora pamberi paBuddha asina kuroora zviri pamutemo.
Shamwari yangu yakanga yaita wiri yepamutemo muNetherlands.
Kana paine chero mibvunzo, unogona kugara uchindibvunza mibvunzo iyi kuburikidza ne "Thailand Blog".
Kwaziwai,
Kees
Ini ndinonzwisisa kubva munhau kuti kune chakatanhamara chinopokana neDutch insurer yehutano. Uye zvino ndinofunga kuti zvinogoneka sei nekuti unowana mvumo yekurapwa kunze kwenyika uye haufambise izvi nemari yakawanda, asi unorega chipatara ichironga neinishuwarenzi yehutano. Izvi ndizvo zvakandirova, uye saka zano rekuzivisa ma invoice nekukasira, kudzivirira kudiwa, sezvinoratidzwa nenyaya, kuti ari padyo kana anodikamwa anofanira kuronga.
Helen anobvumirana nazvo. Anofanira kudaro. Asi akanga asisina chimiro chakanaka mupfungwa. Sezvineiwo.
Akanga akaroora muThailand uye imba yacho yakanyoreswa zvakare muThe Hague panguva iyo mhuri yaigara muNetherlands.
Ini ndaizoona kana Thai wills zvakare yakanyoreswa pakati.
Chero gweta rekuThailand rinogona kukuudza izvozvo.
Kana zviri izvo uye pasina chido, unogona zvichida kukumbira uchapupu hwacho.
Kana pane chido, chinotsanangura nhaka.
Izvi zvinoratidza zvakare kuti kutama haisi nyaya yekuchinja kero yako.
Izvo zvichave - zvirokwazvo mune iyi nyaya, nekuti rufu rwanga rusingatarisirwe - rwaifanira kunge ruripo.
Ruud, iwe unoti 'Ndinozoziva kana zvido zveThai zvakanyoreswawo pakati. Chero gweta reThailand rinogona kukuudza izvozvo.'
Chero ani akambodhirowa kana kuita wiri muThailand anoziva kuti hapana kunyoreswa kwenyika. Chete kana iwe uine chako 'chakanyoreswa' pahoro yedhorobha nekuchiisa musefa, wobva waziva kuti chinhu chacho chichabuda kamwe chete uye kuti zuva rekuiswa kwaro rakatarwa, asi ndizvo chete. Iwe unogona kuita zvidikanwi zvakawanda sezvaunoda uye uzvichengete mudhirowa kumba uye iwe unoenda kudenga uye vagari venhaka vanoverenga mapepa ose iwayo uye izvo zvinoita sezvinonyanya kufadza zvinoenda kumutongi (uyo anofanira kusaina kuti abudise mari yebhangi) uye zvimwe zvose zvinopinda mumoto.
Ndinogovera maonero ako kuti munyaya iyi chido chaifanira kunge chakaitwa, asi iyo yemasitadhi mushure mekudya.
The notary inotaura kuti vagari venhaka ndevapi muChirevo cheNhaka. Izvi zvinogona kutevera kubva kumutemo kana kuda. Kana pasina chido, mucherechedzi anofanira kuziva mumabhuku kuti ndevapi vagari venhaka yepamutemo.
Zvinoita kwandiri, munyaya iyi; Vana 2 vane pasipoti yeNed haina kunetsa kuwana iyo VVE. kwete chido asi maererano nemutemo (zvakasikwa) nhaka.
Pane kutaura nezve 'mukadzi' asi kuti uye kupi vakachata hazvigone kutorwa kubva pachidimbu.
NB. VVE haina mari yakawanda kudaro: ingangoita €350-500. Kana uine imwe mumaoko ako, wobva waenderera mberi.
Kana iwe uine iyo VVE mumaoko ako, iyo bhangi zvakare inogutsikana nyore.
Ini ndinoita chirevo: sei uchichengetedza € 7000 mumabhiri ekurapa kana iwe uchingogona kuiongorora kuburikidza neinternet kana kutora foto nenharembozha yako. Zvakanaka…
Hapana aive akaoma musoro seshamwari yangu. Aigara akarurama. Haana kubhadhara mabhiri nekuti akafanofungidzira kuti mainishuwarenzi aisazobhadhara uye kuti hurumende dzese hadzina kuvimbika uye dzakamuitira. Kutaura chokwadi, akazvibvisa zvishoma iye pachake. Haana kufona. Emails hongu, asi kana toni yaigara ichinakidza. Kuodzwa mwoyo kwakamudzinga muNetherlands uye zvinosuruvarisa kuti zvakare nekunyomba. Shame.
Sezvineiwo, ndiri kushanda pane imwe kana shoma yakafanana faira yeThai chirikadzi yemurume weBelgian, saka muBelgium, asi mushure mekutsvaga nekutaura ndinogumisa kuti zvakafanana muNetherlands.
MuThailand, sekuziva kwangu, hapana hofisi yepakati panonyoreswa zvido. Chido chakanyoreswa chakanyoreswa uye chinochengetwa muThailand neAmpheu yenzvimbo yekugara. (chiitiko chako) Saka kana uchida humbowo hwekuti hapana chido, saka unofanira kuenda kuAmpheu. Ramba uchifunga kuti chido cheThai chinogona chete kuva nezvinhu zvine chekuita neThailand. MuNetherlands neBelgium rugwaro urwu haruna kushanda zviri pamutemo uye muThailand nyaya dzine chekuita neBelgium neNetherlands hadzisi kushanda zviri pamutemo. (izvi kusvika padanho)
Nezve 'Succession'. Nokuda kweizvi haugoni kungoenda kumutemo wehurumende, asiwo kune 'hofisi yechokwadi chepamutemo'. MuBelgium ichi chikamu cheMari. Chimwe chinhu chakadai chiripowo muNetherlands, asi ikoko ine zita rakasiyana uye chikamu cheMinistry of Justice. Saka ndipo paunofanira kunge uri.
Ndakazviwana neGoogling nemubvunzo wekutsvaga: 'document succession in Belgium'. Saka enda googling uye shandura kutsvaga kutsvaga Belgium neNetherlands.
Mune yangu, ndakakwanisa kudhawunirodha application, kuizadza uye kuitumira nepositi. Ehe nehumbowo hunodiwa senge: kuumbwa kwemhuri, gwaro remuchato, gwaro rerufu….
Hongu, pane basa rekutsvaga uye rekutonga rinobatanidzwa, asi harikundike. Zvakadaro, zvakandiitira.
Ndiri kuzoedza. Thanks for the idea.
Wadiwa Steve,
edzawo pano:
https://verklaringvanerfrecht.nl/afwikkeling_nalatenschap/
makadii, lung addie
Ndakaverenga kuti kune vana 2 vane Dutch passports? Kana ava vari vana vake vepamutemo, saka ndivo vagari venhaka yepamutemo pasi pemutemo weDutch. Kana muchato wake wakanyoreswa muNetherlands, mudzimai wake ndiyewo mugari wenhaka zviri pamutemo. Ipapo mutarisiri angasaramba chiziviso chenhaka. Kuvepo kana neimwe nzira kweThai hakuite basa chero ripi zvaro maererano nemidziyo iripo muNetherlands.
Ndizvo chaizvo zvandakaudza 2 notaries. Muzviitiko zvose zviri zviviri, mhinduro yaiva yokuti: “nemhaka yokuti munhu ane hanya akagara muThailand kwemakore anopfuura 10, mutemo wenyika yose unoti mutemo weThai uchabva watanga. Muchidimbu, mutemo weDutch unofanirwa kuregererwa ”. Hongu zvaizove zvakanaka dai paive nechido munyika mbiri idzi, sezvo zvitemo nemamiriro ezvinhu munyika dzakateerana angadai akanyoreswa senzvimbo yepamutemo. Asi ikozvino izvo zvisiri izvo, chete mutemo wepasi rose uyo mutemo unotungamira unoshanda. Zvinoramba zvakaoma.