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Mubvunzo wevaverengi: Vakadzi veThai vadiki here?
Vadiwa vaverengi,
Not an urgent question, but ndaingoda kuziva. Musikana wangu wekuThai anoenda kuna chiremba (kuchipatara) kwechinhu chidiki uye anoda kunwa mapiritsi akawanda sezvinobvira.
Vhiki iri akanga abatwa nechando, hapana chiri serious. Asi pakarepo mhanya kudzokera kuna chiremba. Uye kuita kunge ari kurwara zvakanyanya. Akati ainzwa nekuchinja kwemamiriro ekunze...!?! Akapiwa mapiritsi zvakare, achigomera. Zvakabva zvaita kuti ndiseke zvangu asi chokwadi haana kuzvifarira.
Vamwe vanozvionawo here izvi? Icho chinhu chakajairika muThailand kana kwete. Zvakaitika kwandiri naye nemhuri yake ndezvekuti vane pfungwa diki. Ikoku kune chokuita nokushayikwa kwezivo pamusoro pomuviri here kana kuti kutya kwakanyanyisa kwehosha dzinotyisa?
Ndinofarira kuzvinzwa.
Kwazisai,
Anton
Kugara uchishanyira chiremba hakunei nekuve Thai, haisi yakajairika Thai. Ndeyemunhu uye kwete chiitiko chetsika. Paavhareji, Thais haashanyire chiremba kakawanda kupfuura vanhu vechiDutch. Zvinosuruvarisa, ivo vanorayirwa kakawanda uye mishonga yakawandisa. Mukuita kwangu, 50 muzana yakasara isina mushonga.
MuNetherlands, vanhu vanoenda kuna chiremba paavhareji ka4 pagore (uyo anobata 95 muzana yezvichemo zvese ivo pachavo), zvichienderana nezera uye murume kana mukadzi, 20-40 muzana kashoma kana kusamboenda kuna chiremba.
Vanowanzoshanyira chiremba vanogona kukamurwa kuva mapoka maviri anokosha: vanhu vane zvirwere zvisingaperi zvakadai seshuga uye zvinetso zvemwoyo uyewo vanhu vane zvinetso zvepfungwa. Unogona kutsanangura wakasununguka boka rekupedzisira sevanhu vasingafari, vanosangana nekushushikana kwakawanda nematambudziko uye nekudaro vanogadzira marudzi ese ekunyunyuta. Ndizvo zvinofanira kuteerera chiremba akanaka nomukwanyina akanaka ndokuva nekurukurirano pamusoro pazvo.
Vanhu vanofara havaendi kuna chiremba kune chero dambudziko diki.
Ehe, nhoroondo yemhuri yekugaroshanyira chiremba, kumwe kupusa, ruzivo rushoma, uye kutya hosha dzakakomba dzimwe nguva zvine basa, asi ndizvo zvazviri kwese kwese.
Ndofunga
Ini handifunge kuti ichi chiitiko cheThai. Makamuri ekumirira vanachiremba muEurope neUSA akazarawo nevanhu vane dzihwa, chikwapuro kana zvimwewo nyaya diki.
Vanachiremba vazhinji vanofara kuisa mapiritsi imomo, kunyange vachizivawo kuti izvozvo hazvina kunaka zvachose. Mutengi anogutsikana zvakare uye inoita mari.
Ndinofunga “kungokumbira kutariswa”.
Kunyanya kuzivikanwa. Nekuda kwekushaikwa kwevanorapisa, ibva wangonanga kuchipatara. Nyangwe nedzihwa. Pane kungorwara, kurumidza kunwa mushonga. Asi teerera zano rachiremba (semuenzaniso kurovedza muviri kwakawanda, kugwinya (kureva zvishoma zvinonhuwirira uye zvishoma asidhi) chikafu), chero!
Hi Wim,
Mhiripiri tsvuku zvechokwadi ine hutano hwekudya, ine huwandu hwakakosha hwevhitamini A uye C, ese ari maviri ane simba antioxidant uye anokurudzira immune system.
Mukuwedzera, kufanana negariki yakachena, ine antibacterial properties. Uyezve, tsvakiridzo irikuenderera mberi kana kuti iri kuitwa mune akati wandei hunhu hweichi chikara chitsvuku 😉
Ingo Google zvishoma.
Regards Joy
ndozvakaitikawo zvangu asi nerumwe rutivi madzimai akakurira mumhuri hombe kunyanya kana variko hama haatunhidzwe uye anogona kurohwa...
vazhinji vavo vanoshanda nesimba kumhuri uyezve kuhama kuitira kuti vaende kumapinteliers, kuve nehembe dzakanaka dzefashoni uye moped uye kuti vagone kuita kuti vamwe vasikana vatore pamuviri uye haubvumidzwe kutaura chero chinhu pamusoro pazvo zvichienzaniswa vasikana vanazvo.hupenyu hwemuchinda! Handiziviwo kuti vakazviwana kupi.
One should not generalize this because it was different kumba kwa ex wangu kwaIsaan and vakomana vaishanda nesimba...
Kuchengetwa kwekurapa muThailand kwakarongeka zvakasiyana zvachose pane, semuenzaniso, muNetherlands. MuNetherlands tinoedza kuve nehanya yakapihwa nekutanga kutarisirwa, i.e. nevarapi vese.
Iko hakuna varapi vese muThailand. Kazhinji, murume/mukadzi pachitoro chemishonga anogona kunyora mimwe mishonga, asi asina kudzidziswa zvachose.
Ndosaka Thais achimhanyira kuchipatara kana anzwa kurwara kana kuti adya zvakaipa.
Ndinogona kunyatso kurudzira izvozvo kune farang kana vachinzwa kurwara. Zvipatara zvizhinji, asiwo makiriniki ehunyanzvi, kazhinji ane vana chiremba vane hunyanzvi.
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Mukuziva kwangu hazvisizvo zvachose. Musikana wangu ari kure nazvo
Mhoro Anton, verenga izvi, iri meseji kubva kuVolkskrant,
Purofesa wehutano hwehutano B. Crul, kubva kuCatholic University yeNijmegen, anofara nemugumisiro wekutsvakurudza kweAmerica. Akagara achitenda kuti kusiyana kwemarwadzo ekunzwisisa kune zvose zvinokonzerwa nepfungwa uye nhaka. 'Kunoratidza kusava netsitsi uye upenzi kutaura kuti vanhu vari kurwadziwa vanoita chimwe chinhu.' Chiremba wemazino P. Baan anobva kuHaarlem anogutsikanawo kuti kurwadziwa kwacho kunotsamira pamavara okugara nhaka. Baan anofunga kuti maitiro evatengi vake anewo simba guru pamaitiro avo ari pachigaro chake.Achangobva kuita kuti vamwe amai vane vana vana vauye kuawa yake yekubvunza. Baba vacho vakatya kuuya uye mumwe wevana vana akanga asingadi zvachose kurapwa. “Izvozvo zvingasarudzwa nevabereki vavo, asi vana vanovawo nemaitiro akawanda kubva kuvabereki vavo.” Maererano naW. Blom, mudzidzisi wemapoka 7 ne8 paFreinetschool muHeiloo, vabereki vanoita basa rinokosha mukupindura kwevana vavo kurwadziwa. 'Ndinofunga kuti vana vaduku havawanikwi kutarisirwa kwakakwana kubva kuvabereki vavo. Kana vachigara vachiti zvinhu hazvina kunyanya kuipa, mwana akadaro haakwanisi kubvisa marwadzo ake.'Vana vanoita zvakasiyana chaizvo pavanorwadziwa, maererano naBlom. 'Mumwe munhu anozvibatirira paronda rakavhurika, mumwe anomhanyira kwandiri achichema padikidiki diki. Pesvedzero yemajini chinhu chitsva kwaari. ‘Eya, kana zvakadaro, vabereki vanogona kuita basa shoma kupfuura zvandinofunga.’ Murovedzi wemitambo yemitambo H. Kraaijenhof anodisa kufunga kuti ruzivo rwokuzviwanira rwemarwadzo runotsamira pamavara okugara nhaka, asi anosimbisawo kuti nguva dzose pane pfungwa. chikamu.'Mukundi wemamita mazana mana anogona kugara ari mukundi, zvisinei nekurwadziwa kukuru kunokonzerwa nekugadzirwa kweasidhi yelactic kana uchimhanya. Marwadzo iwayo anenge apera paanokunda. Munhu anenge akundwa ari kurwadziwa zvekuti anobva angodonha pasi. Ikoko ipfungwa bedzi.’ Vamhanyi vanodzidza kubvuma kuti marwadzo rutivi rwebasa ravo, maererano nomurovedzi. ‘Mubati wehove muNorth Sea haana basa nazvo kana akanyorova.’ Purofesa wetsika dzechiKristu J.-P. Wils anobva kuYunivhesiti yeNijmegen anoona vanhu vazhinji vachirwadziwa. Anoita basa rehufundisi muimba yevanorwara zvakanyanya yechipatara. ‘Tsananguro yemajini yemarwadzo yakanaka, asi haizochinji ruzivo rwemarwadzo.’ Kunyange zvakadaro, kuwana kwevatsvakurudzi kunoita kuti afunge. ‘Ndichanyanya kuchenjerera kupomerwa kwouduku.’ Unogona kurovedza chiitiko chemarwadzo, kunodavirwa nomurovedzi wetsiva wekuThailand T. Harinck. ‘Ndinodzidzisa vatambi vetsiva kuitira kuti vakwanise kutsungirira zviri nani marwadzo panguva yemutambo.’ Asi vatambi vetsiva vamwe chete ivavo vanogona kuchema sepwere kana vachirwadziwa nezino. Izvo hazvina chekuita nemajini. Kurwadziwa kwaunoita kunonyanya kukonzerwa nepfungwa.'
Iniwo ndine fungidziro yekuti vanogona kuumburuka mune zvidiki zvisingaite. Zvinondisvota dzimwe nguva. Vanofara zvakare nehomwe yakazara nemishonga uye mavitamini.
Hongu, Anton; Ndakasekawo nezvenyaya yavanachiremba vekuThailand. Ndinewo shamwari yangu yakaenda kukiriniki kakawanda nokuda kwezvichemo zvisina basa. Kunyunyuta kweziso kunokonzerwa nemavhairasi kana mabhakitiriya kwakabviswa se hypersensitivity kune mazai uye migraine. Kushanyira "chiremba" mumwechete kakawanda. Excema yakakonzerwa ne hypersensitivity kune kukwizwa mafuta yakarapwa kakawanda uye …………haina kugadziriswa. Eczema iyi yakabatwa nemumwe mukadzi pakaunda yekiriniki aine kamera yefoni uye mushandi akashandisa runhare kufonera "chiremba" mukamuri yekuseri. Prescription: mapiritsi asingashande. Kungoseka.
Ini ndinotenda kuti neruzivo rwangu rwakadzikama rwebhizinesi muThailand ndaigona kuita muitiro uri kubudirira uine mhedzisiro iri nani yakavimbiswa.
Hazvina kujeka kwandiri kuti chii chinosunda Thais kuti abvunze munhu mumwechete kakawanda ... isu hatizombofa takazviziva.
Kwaziwai uye unakirwe nemusikana wako neThailand.
JohnB.
John, uko mudzimai wako ari kuenda ndiko kutanga kunogara muchipatara. MuThailand, izwi rekuti general practitioner harizivikanwe. Chiremba mudzimai wako anoenda kwaari akafanana nachiremba mukuru wekuNetherlands.
Kana chimwe chinhu chakakomba, anoendesa murwere kuna vanachiremba vane hunyanzvi.
Kune zvakare madiki masevhisi ekukurumidzira munharaunda anopa kuchengetwa kwevana nevana, senge majekiseni, kuyera, kuyera, nezvimwe.
Iwe unogona zvakare kazhinji kuenda kuno mahara kuti uchengete ronda mushure, semuenzaniso, kuvhiyiwa. Kana kuti ukatadza kuenda wega, vanouya kumba kwako.
Ndinongoziva chinhu chimwe chete pamukadzi wangu. Anobva kuPhattalung Province uko mwaka wekunaya kwemvura wakanyanya. Dzimwe nguva anotambura nekusawirirana nekusawirirana nekunaya kwemvura. Nekuda kwekuchinja kwemamiriro ekunze? Ipapo anotambura nekuhotsira uye kuhwihwidza kwemazuva 1 kusvika maviri. Izvi zvinomunetsa zvishoma chero asinganaye mvura mumusoro make. Anobva anwa mapiritsi.
Kunze kwaizvozvo, ini handizvizive mudiki remukadzi wangu, hapana chikonzero chechiremba kana mapiritsi.
Hongu Anton, hongu pachangu, asi chiitiko changu ndechekuti muThai, kwete chete vakadzi, vanokurumidza kushanyira chiremba. Pose pandinobatwa nedzihwa, ndinogara ndichirayirwa kuti ndiende kuna chiremba nekukurumidza. Hongu handidaro, asi pandinoenda kuna Chiremba wezvirwere zvese kana chiremba mazvikokota muchipatara nezvechimwe chirwere, kusiyana-siyana kwemishonga yandakapihwa kuri kushamisa. Ndakakurumidza kuwana fungidziro yekuti chikamu chemodhi yemari. Zvichida chikonzero chekukurumidza kuona chiremba chiri muchokwadi chekuti nhasi zviri nyore kune Thai kupfuura munguva pfupi yapfuura.
Vanhu vanowanzoomerwa nekubhadhara chiremba uye vanozviwana vari mumamiriro ezvinhu ekuti vanokwanisa, vanoenda kuna chiremba zvishoma.Uye kunyanya kuna chiremba. Uye kana vakauya kumba vasina mapiritsi, hazvina kunaka. pfungwa.
hongu, ndizvozvo, nokuda kwechinhu chiduku, enda kuchipatara uye uchizvikudza uende kumba nehomwe yemapiritsi. Kunyange ivo vanoedza kugara muchipatara kwenguva yakareba sezvinobvira mushure mekuvhiyiwa, vanofunga kuti hakuna njodzi nekuda kwezvirwere. Vanachiremba vanokurudzirawo kuti yakabatikana, iwe unogara uchiwana yekutevera yekugadzwa. Kunyange kana izvozvo zvisingakoshi
Uye ... zvirokwazvo kwete chete madzimai. Varume kazhinji vakatoipa
Wadiwa Anthony,
Iniwo ndinoona izvi nemukadzi wangu wechiThai. Panofanira kunge paine chokwadi kune izvozvo. Ini nomudzimai wangu tinopokana panyaya iyi, nokuti handimboendi kuna chiremba kana kuchipatara.
Kwete kana ndikabatwa nedzihwa. Ndinoziva kubva pane zvakaitika kuti izvi zvinotora anenge 2 mavhiki. Saka ndinoenda kuhofisi semazuva ese. Kumba ndinozorora zvishoma. Ndakabva ndajekesera mudzimai wangu izvi. Anobvuma izvozvo uye naizvozvo haaendi kuna chiremba nokuda kwechando. Chete kana ikatora nguva yakareba kana kana paine zviitiko zvisina kujairika, ipapo ndingafunga kushanya kuna chiremba.
Asi kana zvirwere zvikaramba zviripo, ndinongoenda kwachiremba.
Gore rakapera "handina kunzwa zvakanaka" kwezuva rimwe muThailand mumusha wevatezvara vangu. Ipapo manheru, ndichidzvinyirirwa zvikuru navatezvara vangu vose, ndakaenda kuna chiremba. Ndine mumwe mushonga. Chokwadi vatezvara vangu vakafara chaizvo uye mangwana acho ndakanzwa zviri normal futi. "Maona?". Handina kudaira izvozvo.
Musiyano wepfungwa wakakura. Thais vanotenda kuti vanachiremba vanoita zvishamiso. Kana hosha yacho ikarapwa, vanogara vachigutsikana kuti mishonga yacho yaigadzirisa.
Ndinofanira kuwedzera kuti kunewo vanhu vekuMadokero vanonzwa kureruka vanoenda kuna chiremba kuchirwere chidiki.
Thais vanonamata zvakanyanya uye pamwe vanotenda mashura. Kune rimwe divi, vanotora (makuru) njodzi: Buddha anofanira kunge ane chekuita nazvo. Buddha achavadzivirira semubairo werupo rwavo.
Kune rumwe rutivi, vanotya kuti chimwe chinhu chichaitika kwavari: zvino vanotenda zvishamiso zvechiremba nemishonga.
Pakazara uye kubva pane zvakaitika kwandiri, ndinotenda kuti zvakataurwa naAnton ndezvechokwadi.
Hi Anton,
Ndane 14 years ndaroorwa naThumma and nyaya yako handiizive, dzimwe nguva ndinotomuendesa kuna chiremba.
Kwazisai Dirk.
Kunyanya kuzivikanwa. Kunyange nokuda kwekuwedzera kuduku, vanoenda kuchipatara, izvo zvinopa pakarepo infusion.
Pane mufananidzo wekuti 'asiri wekuMadokero' anokurumidza kuenda kuchipatara uye anoda kuti chiremba amupe bhegi rizere nemapiritsi. Asi ichokwadiwo here? Semuyenzaniso, ziva kuti tine mageneral practitioner's practice, asi kumwe kwacho unotofanira kuenda kuchipatara, zvinova kwatiri nyaya dzakakomba kudarika cheki yechikosoro, mapundu kana bundu.
Mumakore manomwe andaive nemudiwa wangu, akaenda kuna chiremba kamwe chete (kana isu tisingaverenge kudanwa kwegomarara rechibereko kune makumi matatu+ ekuongororwa kuno kuNetherlands, asi ini handiverenge kuongororwa kwezvekurapa kwepagore- pamusoro pevashandi). ), maiva kuThailand uye kuti ndiwane rimwe zuva rekuzorora kuti ndizoonana neni. Enda kuchipatara (St. Louis, BKK) uye nekunyunyuta kusinganzwisisiki kwekukosora. Akagamuchira chitupa chachiremba chekusaenda, bag rakazara nemapiritsi anokwana mashanu ndokuenda kumba. Asi kune chimwe chinhu chakaita sedzihwa chaiyo kana kukosora muTH kana NL handina kumuona achibvunza chiremba.
Kururamisa: 7 zvinosuruvarisa makore mashanu.
Chokwadi Anton, ndinozviziva.
Kana pasina chiremba pedyo, vanoenda kuchitoro chemishonga kunotonhora.
Ini ndinofunga zvine chekuita neruzivo rushoma nezvemuviri uye zvishoma nezvemishonga nemhedzisiro yayo. Ivo havawanzo kupihwa mirairo yekushandiswa, nekuti ivo havaiverenge zvakadaro, sekureva kwevamwe vanachiremba vandakataura navo nezvazvo.t
Hongu, ini ndinozvizivawo izvi. Mudzimai wangu, vakoma vake nevana vedu vanoenda kuna chiremba nokuda kwechinetso chiduku, asi zvichida kuchipatara, uko vanosvika mangwanani-ngwanani uye vanorapwa zvinobudirira maawa gare gare mumasikati. Vanobva vadzoka nebhegi rizere nemishonga, mizhinji yacho isingachashandiswi uye inozoraswa kwapera chinguva. Ini kazhinji ndini ndinochenesa zvinhu izvozvo pakupedzisira. Firiji nekabhati yemishonga yakazara nezvinwiwa zvakavhurwa, mapiritsi, nezvimwewo, izvo zvinowanzopfuura zuva razvo rekupera. Kunyange ndikava nechichemo cheutano, ndinorayirwa kuti ndione chiremba. Neparacetamol kunyunyuta kwangu kunowanzoenda, kushamisika kwevandinogara navo kumba.
Ndakave nezviitiko zvakanaka kwazvo nechitoro chemishonga muRoi-Et. Ndinowanzo rwara nechirungurira. Muridzi anozondiraira kuti ndiedze chinwiwa chemint uye izvo zvinobatsira chaizvo. Aive zvakare nemhinduro yakanakisa yezvipikiri zvangu zvefungal.
Kuenda kwachiremba kana uchirwara kuchiri kuonekwa se'kungwara' uye kana ukasazviita kana kuedza kuita chimwe chinhu pamusoro pazvo iwe pachako, zvinoonekwa se'benzi'.
Handichakwanisa kuita kuti mumwe wangu anoona chiremba sezvo x-ray yakatorwa (pamwe yakatyoka) chiboda. Paakanzwa nezve deductible system, akafunga kuti kushanya kwese kwachiremba kwaisafanira.
Asi iniwo dzimwe nguva ndinoshanyira mumwe mukadzi wechiThai uyo anodada akavhura dhirowa nemapiritsi angave ane godo nechitoro chemumusha muThailand. Kupinza pachedu mushure mekushanya kwachiremba kuThailand, uye mapiritsi akatorwa kubva kushamwari dzine chikosoro chakafanana kana marwadzo asina kujeka.
Kushanyira chiremba usingauye kumba nemapiritsi? Zvisingafungidzirwe kune vazhinji Thais.
Ini pamudzimai wangu handizvizivi. HONGU navamwene vangu. Anga achitambura kwemakore nemarudzi ese ezvirwere, izvo zera rinonyanya kukosha.
Inobva muhurombo hwakanyanya uye zvino zvave kuita mune zvemari, zvese zvinofanirwa kuve zvakanakisa.
Vamwene vane makore 78 uye vaneta. Osteoarthritis ine chimiro chakashata zvakanyanya uye saka musana wakakombama zvishoma. (taura, mutsindo mutsva).
Ini ndinofunga imhaka yekugara akatarisa pasi nekuti anogara achitsvaga.
Iye zvakare anotambura nekuparadzana kunetseka nekuti varamu vangu vaviri vanogara nemhuri dzavo nemakambani muBangkok uye isu tinoenda pakati peNetherlands, Jomtien neUtaradit.
Uyezve, amai vanorwara neBP uye ndiri kutaura nezve 176 - 120 pa86 b/m.
Asi amai vanodya zvine utano. Bhodhoro hombe raMaggi rinowedzerwa kune zvese zvekudya zvake mukati mevhiki zvakajairika.
Asi vanachiremba uye kushanya.
1. Chiremba wezvirwere zvese haana kunaka nekuti Chiremba weChiremba anoti handikwanise.Munofanira kushandisa munyu mushoma uye osteoarthritis inoenderana nezera. Bill 100 yekugezera kana zvakadaro
2. Orthopedist muState Hospital muUttaradit yakaipa kwazvo. Inongopa 1 mhando yemapiritsi nemazano. Nekuda kwezera rake, haadi kuvhiya. Kufunga nezvemishonga, kuongororwa ropa, kuyerwa kweropa uye ECG. bhiri 240 yekugezera.
3. Kiriniki yega yega muUttaradit yehama nehanzvadzi vanobva kumhuri yakapfuma kwazvo uye vane tsika yekuzvivaraidza uye yakatarisana nevanhu. ECG, Kumanikidzwa kweropa, Kuongororwa kweRopa, Ultrasound, X-ray, Tsananguro yezvaunofanira kudya uye izvo ZVASINGAdye (HAPANA MUNYU). kupihwa kudya uye kutsigirwa kwakatemwa uye kudzvanywa masokisi. Bhirisa chimwe chinhu senge 400 yekugezera. Saka zvaive zvatove nani. Saka vanamai musateedzere chikafu, musapfeke masukisi ekutsigira nekuti anodzvanya, ingoenderera mberi nemararamiro asina kunaka. Saka zvichemo zvinosara woenda kune chimwe chipatara.
4. Chipatara cheMasoja muUttaradit. bvunzo dzakafanana, dzinenge zano rakafanana nereothopedist. Asi bill 300 bath. Panofanira kunge pakaipa chipatara??????
5. Kuchipatara chakazvimiririra muPitchanulok. Iripo maawa maviri, maawa maviri kumashure uye maawa maviri akamirira.
Kuyera kweropa, ECG, hurukuro, mishonga (paracetamol) yakapihwa uye kugadzwa kutsva. Inodhura 2200 yekugezera. Sekureva kwemukadzi wangu, VERY kutsvagisa kwakashata.
Sekutaura kwamhamha ichi ndicho chipatara chaasati amboenda?????????
Isu nemukadzi wangu takakanda mapfumo pasi. Takaudza vanaamai kuti AKASAterera chiremba wemapfupa nechipatara chemauto, anotozviitira ega.
Asi zvinosiririsa kuti kugadzwa kwakatoitwa, saka tichadzoka kuPitchanulok munguva pfupi. Kwete nesu. Mwanakomana wedangwe anouya kunyanya kubva Bangkok kuenda kuPitchanulok naamai vake. Isu tiri muItaly 🙂
Zvandakasangana nazvo ndezvekuti kana shamwari yako yekuThai yarwara musiye aende ega kuti vasaone kure. Zvangu pazvakaenda ndega, akanamatira kunaChiremba aine mari ine musoro. Ndichisvika akaendeswa kuna mazvikokota nokuda kwechirwere chaakamborwara nacho, asi iye zvino ava nemari yakawanda.