Zviremera zvemitero zveDutch zvakaoma nezvekero yangu muBelgium

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15 May 2022

Vadiwa vaverengi,

Haisi kekutanga kuti zviremera zvemitero zveDutch zvisina chokwadi nezvekero yangu yekumba muBelgium. Kare-kare ndakaita mutsauko mutsamba dzangu pakati petsamba dzetsamba nekero dzepamusha, sezvo ndichigara muThailand nguva zhinji yegore uye naizvozvo ndine simba riri nani pamusoro pekutumira tsamba dzakanyorerwa kwandiri neDutch Tax Authorities. Asi inspectorate yeDutch Tax Authorities kune dzimwe nyika muHeerlen yakatanga imwe ongororo yekuti chii chaizvo 'chaiyo kero yepamba' yangu uye haina kugutsikana nehumbowo hwekuti ndakanyoreswa kuBelgium.

Ikozvino ndatumira sevhisi iyi ongororo yangu yemutero kwemakore mashanu apfuura eBelgian Tax Authorities, pamwe nemakopi echitupa changu, chitupa chekunyoreswa kubva kuDhipatimendi rePopulation yedhorobha reGhent uye mukubatanidza tsamba ine chekuita nepenjeni yangu yakatumirwa. kukero yangu muGhent.

Ndine mvumo kubva kuDhipatimendi Rekubvisa reMunicipality yeGhent yekugara muThailand kwerinopfuura gore. Asi veDutch Tax Authorities vanopokana kana kero iyi, yakadomwa zviri pamutemo sekero yepamba pangu nevakuru veBelgian, ndiyo 'kero yangu yepamba chaiyo, semaonero angu, haina kurongeka, sezvo vakuru vehurumende vachifanira kuita sarudzo dzavo pazvirevo zvehurumende kwete pakufungirana. kuti ini 'chaizvo' ndinogara kune imwe nzvimbo.

Kune mamwe maDutch Belgian anosangana nematambudziko akafanana neveDutch tax tax?

Kwazisai,

Nick

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22 mhinduro ku "Vatongi vemitero yeDutch yakaoma nezvekero yangu muBelgium"

  1. Cornelis anoti kumusoro

    Kero yekuBelgium hainyatsoita se'chaiyo kero yepamba' kwandiri. Ini ndinofungidzira kuti chokwadi chekuti kanzuru yeBelgian yakupa mvumo yekugara kunze kwenyika kwerinopfuura gore ichabva pamutemo weBelgian. Zviremera zveDutch hazvina kusungwa neizvi.

  2. Erik anoti kumusoro

    Niek, kunyoreswa muGhent hazvireve kuti ndiko zvakare kugara kwako mutero. Kana ndikaverenga mubvunzo wako nenzira kwayo, ndinofunga kuti sevhisi iri muHeerlen ingangowana kuti haugari muGhent asi muThailand... Nekuti uripo nguva zhinji yegore, unozviti iwe, uye unobvumidzwa kuenda kuGhent kunyangwe ugareko kwegore.

    Ndekupi kwaunogara mutero?

    Ini ndinokupa zano kuti utore mutero chipangamazano ane ruzivo rweNL-BE, BE-TH uye NL-TH zvibvumirano zvemitero.

    Uye zano raLammert de Haan mune ino blog rinogona kubatsira kwauri. https://www.thailandblog.nl/expats-en-pensionado/van-welk-land-ben-jij-fiscaal-inwoner/ kunyangwe izvo zvine chekuita nechibvumirano cheNL-TH.

    • nick anoti kumusoro

      Eric, kwandinogara mutero ndiGhent uye ndakatumirawo mutero wangu wemakore akati wandei ku 'Heerlen' sehumbowo.

    • Lammert de Haan anoti kumusoro

      Erik, Niek muDutch uye anofarira mari yeDutch.

      Kana uchigara kuBelgium, Belgium inogona kubhadharisa mutero pane yako AOW pundutso uye penjeni yekambani uye/kana muripo wemari.

      Kana uchigara muThailand, BE-TH Chibvumirano hachiuye mumufananidzo, asi chete NL-TH Chibvumirano. Kubatsirwa kwake kweAOW kunobva kwabvisirwa mutero muNetherlands neThailand. Thailand inofanira kubva yapa kudzikiswa pasi peChinyorwa 23(6) cheChibvumirano.

      Kunyangwe chinyorwa chawataura chakavakirwa pamamiriro akaita zvinhu pakati peNetherlands neThailand, zvisungo zvirimo maererano nekusarudza pekugara mutero zvinoshanda kuzvibvumirano zvese zvemitero zvakapedzwa neNetherlands. Izvi zvinobva pachibvumirano cheOECD modhi.

      • Erik anoti kumusoro

        Lammert, ndinobvumirana newe. Mubvunzo unoramba uripo kuti nei Heerlen ari kutanga nzvimbo yekukurukurirana kwekugara. Asi pamwe tichanzwa izvozvo zvakare kubva kuna Niek.

        • Lammert de Haan anoti kumusoro

          Kuongorora kwekugara kunoitika nguva nenguva kana inspector aine kupokana.

          Mwedzi mishoma yapfuura, Dare Repamusorosoro rakatonga mune imwe nyaya umo aizviti "mupangamazano wemitero" akanyepedzera kugara muThailand.
          Inspector akanga aona kuti zviziviso zvose uye basa rekupa mazano raaitarisira zvakaitwa neDutch IP address saka maturnips akaitwa.

          Aifunga kuti akanga aronga zvose noungwaru. Kuti aite izvi, akanga atotengesa imba yake muNetherlands kumwana wake wemakore 2 uye saka mwanakomana asina simba anogara muThailand (funga nezvazvo).

          Zvese izvi hazvina kumubatsira. Uye, pasinei nekubiridzira kwakaitwa pamwero mukuru, Dare Repamusorosoro remuThe Hague harina kuwana chikonzero chekumubhadharira faindi yemhosva. Dare Repamusorosoro rakatevera maonero aya eDare.

          Zvisinei, ndinoziva nyaya dzisingaverengeki dzinosanganisira nzira yekubiridzira isinganyanyi kusvika kure. faindi yemisdemeanor yaiswa.

        • nick anoti kumusoro

          Nekuti kufungira kwakamutswa nevateresi veDutch nekuti tsamba dzavo dzakatumirwa ku'tsamba yetsamba yangu' kuThailand kwete 'kero yangu yekumba' muGhent.

          • Erik anoti kumusoro

            Niek, nekuda kwekusavimbika kwekutumira tsamba muThailand, ndakaita zvakapesana makore makumi maviri apfuura: ese mapepa etsamba kubva mutero uye SVB kune mukoma wangu muNetherlands. Nenzira, pane mijnoverheid.nl uye nzvimbo dzakafanana kwemakore ikozvino kwaunogona kupinda neDigiD uye kuverenga kana kudhinda zvose.

  3. Ruud anoti kumusoro

    Munhu wechiDutch anogara zviri pamutemo muBelgium asi achigara muThailand kwenguva zhinji yegore anomutsa mibvunzo.
    Semutero wemutero, ndinoda kuziva kana iwe wakagadzira chivakwa chekunzvenga mitero yeDutch, izvo zvinoita sezvingangoita kwandiri kuti haubhadhare mutero muNetherlands.

    Ini hapana chandinoziva nezvemitemo yemutero, asi dai ndaiva mukuru wemutero, ndaizobhadhara mari yako muNetherlands, nokuti hausi kugara muBelgium, nokuti unogara muThailand nguva yakawanda yegore.
    Zvichida kunyange (inenge) gore rose.
    Uye zvakare muThailand unogona kunge usingabhadhare mutero, kunyangwe uchifanira kana uchigara ikoko nguva zhinji yegore.

    • nick anoti kumusoro

      Ndakacherechedza kare kuti ndave ndichibhadhara mitero muBelgium kwemakore, saka hapana mubvunzo we'kugadzira kuvaka' zvachose.

  4. Lung addie anoti kumusoro

    Wadiwa Nick,
    Hazvishamisi kuti Heerlen ane kusahadzika nezvenzvimbo yako chaiyo yekugara.
    Semaneja wefaira ndine 'kunzwisisa; vanoziva mutemo panyaya iyi.

    Iwe hauratidze kuti mari yako inobva kupi: Belgium kana Netherlands ??? Chokwadi ichi chinoita musiyano mukuru.
    Unogona kuwana mvumo muBelgium kugara kunze kweBelgium kweanopfuura gore rimwe. asi iyi ndeye-yekure uye inogona kuwanikwa chete pasi pemamwe mamiriro aungangove waunokodzera: kudzidza kana kuva nebasa kunze kwenyika. Saka, kana ukagara kunze kweBelgium kweanopfuura gore 1 uye usingazadzise mamiriro aya, unosungwa nemutemo unosungirwa kubvisa register uye iwe zvakare uchawira pasi peDutch tax system kana mari yako ichibva kuNetherlands. Kana ichibva kuBelgium, iwe unoramba uri muteresi weBelgian uye iwe watove kubhadhariswa mutero kubva kune wepagore mutero kudzoka uye kugadzirisa.
    Iwe zvino unogona kukakavara nguva dzose kuti ichi hachisi chivakwa, maererano nemafungiro ako, asi chaizvoizvo ndizvo. Ini handizive maDutch tax rates uye handisi kuzoongorora mazviri, asi ndinofunga kuti zvakakunakira iwe muNetherlands kupfuura muBelgium, nekudaro kuedza kwese kuchengetedza kero muBelgium, pasina kugara ipapo, kero yepositi. muNetherlands……..
    Pane mukana wakanaka wekuti rimwe zuva zvichaguma zvakaipa.

    • nick anoti kumusoro

      Lung Addie, mari yangu inobva kuNetherlands uye kuongororwa kwemutero pamari yangu muNetherlands neBelgium haina kumbosiyana kubva kune imwe neimwe. Izvi zvakaratidzwa nenyaya yekuti ndaifanirawo kuzadzisa 2016-2020 mutero wekudzoka wandakanga ndapedza kuBelgium kuNetherlands, saka icho chaisambove chikonzero nei ndaida kuve nemhosva yemutero muBelgium.
      Nyaya iri kunetsa ndeyekuti zviremera zvemitero zveDutch zvingaramba here kuti, maererano nevakuru veBelgian, une kero yekugara muBelgium, iwe uriwo mutero wekugara, kana zvichizivikanwa kuti wakagara kunze kweBelgium kweanopfuura 180. mazuva ... Chero bedzi ndisina kubviswa zviri pamutemo kubva kurejista yevanhu, ndinoramba ndichigara muBelgium maererano nemumiriri weBelgium;
      Uye kuti ndisadzingwe zviri pamutemo, ndine mvumo yekugara muThailand kwegore rimwechete ndisina kupa chikonzero chazvo.

  5. ruudje anoti kumusoro

    gore iroro raunogona kugara kunze kweBelgium (guta rako), rinogona kuwedzerwa muguta rako kune rimwe gore re1.
    Haisi iyo iyo zvikonzero zveizvi chete: kudzidza kana kuva nebasa.
    Ndinofunga kuti pane zvinhu zviviri zviri kuvhiringika pamwe chete0.
    Mukanzuru yako unogona kukumbira kugara kunze kwekanzuru kwegore 1 kuti urege kubvisiswa kunyoresa, izvo zvinogona kuwedzerwa negore rimwe.
    Mvumo yekugara kunze kweBelgium chimwe chinhu chakasiyana zvachose

    • Lung addie anoti kumusoro

      Wadiwa Ruudje,
      kana ukati A unofanirawo kuti B. Ndinoda kunzwa kwamuri kuti ndezvipi zvimwe zvikonzero zvinopihwa nemumiriri weparamende zvinogona kuita kuti vanhu vambomisa chisungo chekudzima kunyoresa. Ndakangowana zvikonzero zviviri chete mumagwaro andakaratidza mumhinduro yangu. Kana zvichibvira, zvakare rengedzo kune kwairi kubva sezvo izvi zvingave zvinobatsira kune yangu 'Deregistering yeBelgians' faira.

  6. Cornelis anoti kumusoro

    Ndinogona kunge ndisiri muBelgian - kunyangwe ndainakidzwa nekugara nekushanda ikoko kwemakore mana - asi ndakawana zvinotevera pawebhusaiti yeGuta reGhent:
    https://stad.gent/nl/burgerzaken/migratie/reizen-en-vertrek-uit-belgie/vertrek-uit-belgie

  7. Peter anoti kumusoro

    Chokwadi ndeichi: akatamira kuBelgium makore mashanu apfuura, akadzimwa kubva kuNetherlands.
    Kubhadhara mutero muBelgium kwemakore mashanu.
    Ini nguva pfupi yadarika ndakaverenga kuti penjeni pamusoro peimwe mari inobhadharwa muNetherlands.
    Zvakare fungidzira kuti chitupa chehupenyu chinobva kuBelgium, saka zvakare ichokwadi.

    Vakuru vemitero vanowana sei chokwadi nezvekugara muThailand uye nei?
    Chokwadi BD haisi kubuda mumutsara here? Iwo chokwadi anotsigirwa neBelgian zvinyorwa uye anga ari makore mashanu. Semutero zvinoratidzika kwandiri sezvazviri.
    Iyo Dutch BD haina chekuita nehupenyu hwako muBelgium. Ndiyo pasuru yako.
    Vanofanira kuomerera kuchokwadi uye neimwe nzira kuratidza kuti haina kururama.

    Zviremera zveDutch hazvisi vanhu, zvichida izvi hazviitike kuvanhu uye AI (kana algorithms) inoshanda uye ipapo muongorori (kana kuti zvichida kwete) anoenderera mberi, achifunga kuti algorithm yakarurama.
    Kana iwe ukagamuchira mubhadharo wepamberi we, zvakanaka, 2 euros, kaviri.
    Izvo ndakadzoka zvakare uye zvakare. Hongu, yaifanira kubhadharwa, nokuti zvimwe ... munoziva.
    Pekutanga pandakavafonera nezvenyaya iyi. Zvinoshamisa kuti kechipiri yaive zvakare 2 euros.
    "Isu tiri veDutch bd, tichakufananidzai, kuramba hakuna maturo. ”
    Isu tave kuziva chitsotsi chekubvumidzwa kwevabereki.

  8. Lammert de Haan anoti kumusoro

    Hi Nick,

    Pasina kutarisa mucrystal bhora rangu, ndinofanoona matambudziko makuru kwauri.

    Inspector vatanga kuferefeta pekugara mauri. Izvi zvinoreva kuti ane zvikonzero zvekukahadzika kurongeka kwekuve (mutero) mugari muGhent, sezvaunofunga.
    Iwe unotoratidza kuti unogara kana kugara muThailand kwekakawanda kwegore. Iwe nokudaro unoratidza kuti hausi mutero mugari weBelgium. Semazuva ese, Chibvumirano Chekudzivirira Mutero Kaviri chakapedzwa neNetherlands neBelgium zvakare chakavakirwa pachirongwa che183.

    Zvichienderana neChinyorwa 4 cheGeneral State Tax Act, uko munhu anogara "anotongwa zvinoenderana nemamiriro ezvinhu".

    Mamiriro api aunofanira kufunga nezvawo? Ndichataura zvishoma:
    1. Ndekupi kwauinayo imba yakasimba inowanika?
    2. Ndeipi nyika iyo hukama hwako hwepedyo nehupfumi (pakati pezvido zvakakosha)?
    3. Iwe unowanzogara kupi?

    Kana zvisati zvaitika, ndinotarisira kuti muongorori achakumbirawo zvinyorwa zvezuva nezuva kubva kubhangi (s) yako pamwe nekopi yemapeji epasipoti yako. Izvi zvakanyanya kukosha kuwana mhinduro kumibvunzo 2 ne3.
    Iyi ndiyo nzira yakajairika inotorwa nemuongorori mumhando idzi dzezvinhu.

    Inspector anobva akurumidza kusvika pamhedzisiro yekuti hausi mutero mugari weBelgium. Icho chokwadi chekuti wakabhadhara mutero muBelgium hachichinji izvi. Kunyangwe mumusimboti wekugara mutero muBelgium uchifungidzirwa (ECLI:NL:HR:2006:AR5759), musimboti uyu unotsauka kana muongorori akaita kuti zvibatike kuti:
    • kuongororwa kwevakuru vemitero yeBelgian kunobva pane zvisiri izvo kana zvisina kukwana data kana
    • mutero haugone kubva pane chero mutemo wemutemo weBelgian.

    Uye zvinhu zvinoita kunge zviri kunanga ikoko.

    Izvi zvinoguma nei?
    • Iwe haufariri kuchengetedzwa kwechibvumirano pahwaro hweChibvumirano chakapedzwa neNetherlands neBelgium, asi zvakanyanya pahwaro hweNetherlands - Thailand Treaty (kana inspector achida kuenda ipapo ipapo ipapo).
    • Kusiyana nemamiriro ezvinhu kana uchigara muBelgium, Netherlands inobhadharisa mutero pamubhadharo wako weAOW. Kuti izvi zviitike, unogona kutarisira kumwe kuongororwa kweanopfuura makore mashanu.
    • Iwe uchazofanira kutora matanho anodiwa kuti utorezve mutero wakabhadharwa kare muBelgium. Nekudaro, kuferefetwa kwemuongorori uye mhedzisiro yezvaawana zvinogona kubatsira kwauri (Vane masimba eMutero ishamwari yako yepamoyo mushure mezvose).

    Mvumo kubva kuDhipatimendi Rekubvisa reManispala weGhent yekugara muThailand kweinopfuura gore rimwe haina maturo mune ino mamiriro (Chibvumirano-Tekinoroji).

    Lammert de Haan, nyanzvi yemitero (anonyanya pamutemo wemitero yepasi rose uye inishuwarenzi yemagariro).

    • Johnny B.G anoti kumusoro

      Moderator: Mibvunzo inofanira kuendeswa semuverengi mibvunzo.

  9. Lung addie anoti kumusoro

    Wadiwa Nick,
    verenga nemazvo mhinduro dzose kubva kuna Mr Lammert de Haan.
    Akaiswa zvirinani pane zvandiri maererano nemutemo wemutero weDutch, asi sarudzo yake inoenderana nezvandaedza kukutsanangurira muchidimbu. Anoenda mune zvakadzama uye chikanganiso chikuru chawakaita ndechekuti pekugara kwako kukuru hakusi muBelgium asi muThailand uye izvo zvinogona kuratidzwa zviri nyore. Kubva panguva iyo nzvimbo yako yekugara yakakumbirwa pahwaro hwepasipoti yako, iwe uchave nedambudziko rakakura. Pane kunyange mukana wekuti iwe zvino uchabhadhara mitero kaviri sezvo zviremera zvemitero zveDutch zvinogona kudzoka kwemakore 5 uye izvo zvawakabhadhara kare muBelgium: nguva yekupikisa yakatopera, saka zvichange zvakaoma kuti udzorere chero chinhu. MuBelgium, ndine ruzivo rwakakwana uye ruzivo nazvo. Ndinokushuvirai rombo rakanaka nehutungamiriri.

    • Lammert de Haan anoti kumusoro

      Anodiwa Lung Addie,

      Kubva pane zvakawanikwa uye mhedziso dzeDutch inspector, Niek inogona kuendesa chikumbiro kuBelgian mitero yemitero kuti iwane EX-OFFICIAL kuderedza / kudzokorora kwezvakatoiswa uye kuongororwa kwekupedzisira. Ndiyo sarudzo inosara mushure mekunge nguva dzekupikisa dzapera.

      • Lung addie anoti kumusoro

        Wadiwa Lambert,
        ndatenda neruzivo runobatsira. Zvakawanda zvinoenderana, kana zvasvika kune izvo, pane zvakawanikwa uye mushumo wekupedzisira weTax Inspector. Kunonzi kubiridzira here... kusaziva igakava risingawanzobvumwa sezvo munhu wese anotarisirwa kuziva mutemo, izvo zvisiri izvo.
        Ndinoziva kubva pane zvakaitika kuti wongororo haisi nyore kuwana mushure mekunge nguva yekupikisa yapera. Ndave nekunetseka kukuru kuwana wongororo yemunhu iyeye, ane Alzheimer's yakanyanya, iyo runhare rwechimbichimbi rwerubatsiro rwekutonga rwakaburitswa pano paTB uye ane faira randakamiririra neBelgian mitero. Kunyangwe nemagwaro ezvokurapa aaive asingakwanisi kuisa mushumo wake, chaive chisiri chidimbu chekeke. Ndorega kana vakafungira kuti fraud inogona...

        • nick anoti kumusoro

          Lung adie, ndinoda kukubata zvakare maererano nenyaya iyi; Kana uchibvuma, iyi ndiyo kero yangu [email inodzivirirwa]


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