Tafiya zuwa Spain da visa ga budurwa ta Thai
Yan uwa masu karatu,
Game da duk abin da ke tattare da samun budurwar Thai (ko "mai dadi" a matsayin ɗan'uwata mai bincike kuma a yanzu sanannen marubuci a wannan shafin yanar gizon yana kiranta da kyau) zuwa wata ƙasa ta EU, akwai abubuwa da yawa da za a samu akan intanet kuma ba shakka har ila yau. wannan blog.
Har yanzu, ina fatan in iya gano abubuwan da ke biyowa: Nan da nan na karanta wani martani a nan daga wani dan Belgium da ke zaune a Spain tare da masoyinsa na Thai (yi hakuri Inquisitor, ba a yi niyya a matsayin plagiarism ba, amma a matsayin haraji!). Yanzu tambayata ita ce ko akwai takamaiman yanayi na Spain?
Ban zauna a can ba tukuna, budurwar tana zaune a Thailand don haka ba ta da komai dangane da biza a yanzu. Yanzu bari mu ce zan zauna a Spain nan da kusan shekara guda. Shin mutane kuma dole ne su sami mafi ƙarancin kuɗin shiga na EUR 1.500 don samun damar gayyatar wani da adadin kuɗin shiga tare da mazaunin budurwa na dindindin? Me game da kiwon lafiya ga Thai?
"Shigo da" kai tsaye zuwa Spain ko Belgium ta farko ko ta Jamus? Mutum ya karanta sosai!
Duk yana kama da kama-da-wane kuma wanda bai kai ba, amma akwai irin wannan furci: Duba kafin ku yi tsalle. Don haka.
Godiya a gaba don amsa(s).
Gaisuwa,
Roger
Masoyi Roger,
A ka'idar, ya kamata EU / EEA (Ƙungiyar Tarayyar Turai / Yankin Tattalin Arziki na Turai) waɗanda ke zaune a wasu wurare a cikin EU / EEA su zauna cikin 'yanci. Duk wani abokin tarayya da dangi na kusa daga wajen EU/EEA kuma suna da wasu haƙƙoƙin rakiyar ɗan ƙasar EU. An tsara waɗannan a cikin Dokar EU 2004/38 "a kan haƙƙin 'yan ƙasa na Ƙungiyar da 'yan uwansu su matsa da zama cikin 'yanci a cikin yankunan Membobin Ƙasa". Lura: Umurnin ba ya shafi ƴan ƙasa na EU/EEA waɗanda ke zaune a cikin ƙasa memba wanda su kansu suke da ɗan ƙasa. Amma dan Belgium wanda ke son zuwa Spain na ɗan gajeren lokaci (har zuwa watanni 3) ko dogon zama (shige da fice) na iya dogara da umarnin. Ƙarƙashin wannan umarnin, alal misali, yana yiwuwa ga wanda ba na EU ba ya sami takardar izinin zama na ɗan gajeren lokaci kyauta ta hanya mai sauƙi, annashuwa. Shige da fice yana yiwuwa a ƙarƙashin buƙatu masu sassauƙa, matuƙar baƙon ba 'nauyi mara ma'ana' bane ga jihar kuma baya haifar da barazana ga tsaron ƙasa.
Bisa ga umarnin (bisa ga Mataki na 2(2)) aƙalla ma'aurata da ƙananan yara sun cancanci yin shari'a a ƙarƙashin wannan Umarnin. Umurnin ya bayyana (bisa ga Mataki na 3 (2b)) cewa "abokin tarayya da wanda ɗan ƙasa na Ƙungiyar ke da tabbataccen dangantaka ta dogon lokaci" shi ma ya cancanci. Koyaya, babu yarjejeniyoyin a matakin EU lokacin da irin wannan dangantakar ke da alaƙa, kowace ƙasa memba tana da nata fassarar/ka'idojinta na wannan ko wani lokacin babu ƙa'idodi kwata-kwata.
A zahiri na ɗauka cewa Spain za ta karɓi ƙaura daga Thai kawai idan ana maganar aure. Abin mamaki, Spain kuma za ta ba da izinin ƙaura ga waɗanda ba su yi aure ba. Hukumomin Spain (ministerio del empleo, sakatariyar janar de inmigracion) sun bayyana cewa:
“Pareja de hecho no inscrita con la que mantenga una relación etable debidamente probada al acreditar la existencia de un vínculo duradero. En todo caso, se entenderá la existencia de ese vínculo si se acredita un tiempo de convivencia marital de, al menos, un año continuado, salvo que tuvieran descendencia en común, en cuyo caso bastará la acreditación de convivencia estable debidamente probada. Las situaciones de matrimonio y pareja se considerarán, en todo caso, incompatibles entre si.”
Dogaro da fassarar na'ura, wannan rubutun Mutanen Espanya ya bayyana cewa mutanen da ke cikin dogon lokaci suma sun cancanci idan akwai bayyanannen shaida na keɓancewar dangantaka na aƙalla shekara guda kuma yana iya tabbatar da hakan tare da shaidar takaddun shaida.
Idan za ku auri abokin zaman ku na Thai, ba shakka ba za a iya tattaunawa ba ko za a ɗauki abokin tarayya a matsayin ɗan dangi na ɗan ƙasa na EU. Bayan haka, kuna da takardar shaidar aure a matsayin hujja. Tabbas wannan aure ya zama na halal kuma na gaskiya. Duk da haka, hukumomi na iya buƙatar a fassara takardar auren zuwa yaren da hukumomin (Spanish) za su iya fahimta, da kuma a ba da izinin yin aiki da fassarar (don tabbatar da sahihancin takardun).
Duk da haka, an san Spain da rashin gamsuwa da takardar shaidar aure na waje (Thai), ko da an fassara shi kuma an halatta shi. Ofishin jakadancin Spain kuma yana son ƙungiyar EU ta gane/tabbatar da auren. A taƙaice, wannan ya saba wa dokokin EU, amma hakan ya faru ne saboda mutanen Sipaniya sun yi kuskuren aiwatar da umarnin a cikin dokokin ƙasarsu. Ma'aikatar Harkokin Wajen Spain ita ma ta yarda da wannan, kamar yadda na ji a baya daga lauyoyi (mai aiki a abokin tarayya.nl). Haɗin kai tare da ƙayyadaddun buƙatun da ba daidai ba yawanci yana da sakamako mafi kyau. Bayan haka, idan ba za a iya yadda ya kamata ba, to sai a yi yadda ya kamata. Tabbas kuna da 'yancin gabatar da koke game da wannan ga, alal misali, Hukumar Tarayyar Turai ta Harkokin Cikin Gida ta EU. Ita kanta EU ba ta aiki da sauri sosai, irin wannan korafin ya fi yin amfani da dalilai na gudanarwa ta yadda Brussels za ta iya ɗaukar wata ƙasa memba don yin la'akari da cin zarafi akai-akai kuma za ta iya yin la'akari da irin waɗannan ayyukan yayin tattaunawa game da sake fasalin manufofin nan gaba.
A aikace, duka ofishin jakadancin Spain da hukumomi daban-daban a Spain na iya yi muku wayo. Misali, akan ThaiVisa na karanta a kai a kai game da abubuwan 'yan asalin EU waɗanda ke son zuwa Spain tare da abokin aikinsu na Thai don ɗan gajeren zama ko ƙaura kuma ana tambayar su don tabbatar da cewa ƙungiyar EU ta amince da auren, amma kuma suna so. don ganin inshorar tafiye-tafiyen likita. Rahoton 'yan sandan Thai (a matsayin bayanin hali), tikitin jirgin sama, yin ajiyar otal ko wata hujja ta masauki/ masauki, da sauransu.
A ka'idar, zaku iya tafiya zuwa Spain tare, tare da abokin tarayya akan ɗan gajeren zama visa (nau'in visa na Schengen) ko dogon zama (nau'in visa na Schengen D) kuma sami wurin zama a can kuma ku yi rajistar ku biyu a Spain. Koyaya, idan na karanta abubuwan kamar wannan, tabbas yana da kyau a fara tabbatar da zama a Spain da kanku sannan kawai abokin tarayya ya zo. Daga nan zan sake duba ofishin jakadanci a Bangkok da Ma'aikatar Shige da Fice abin da hukumomin Spain ke buƙata daga abokin tarayya na Thai.
Ba za ku rubuta a kan abin da kuke so ku zauna a Spain tare da abokin tarayya ba. Mafarin farawa shine ku da abokin tarayya ba nauyi mara kyau bane kuma kuna da isassun kudin shiga da zaku samu. Kuna iya aiki a Spain a matsayin ma'aikaci, mai zaman kansa ko kuma ɗan fansho. Idan har kuna da isassun kuɗin shiga (ba a ba da adadin da ya isa 'isas' ba, Mutanen Espanya na iya samun adadi misali, amma muddin kuɗin shiga ya isa ya cika dukkan wajibai kuma ba ku nemi taimakon zamantakewa ba, bai kamata Mutanen Espanya su tsoma baki ba. kwance) na iya faruwa da abokin tarayya na Thai ba tare da biyan wasu buƙatu ba. Tabbas, bayan shige da fice za su yi rajista kuma su yi inshorar lafiya. Babu wajibcin haɗawa (daukar jarrabawar harshe, da sauransu).
Ƙarshe na ita ce za ku iya zama a Spain tare da abokin tarayya na Thai, amma kuna iya ɗaukar hanyoyi daban-daban don wannan. Wani zai kawo cikas da ciwon kai fiye da ɗayan. Ba zan iya faɗi abin da ya fi dacewa ba, idan kawai don ban san ainihin halin da kuke ciki ba kuma ban san ainihin ƙa'idodin ƙaura da Sipaniya suka kafa ba ko kuma yadda ɗayan jami'an Spain ke bayyana ƙa'idodin. Kamar koyaushe, shiri na kan lokaci yana da mahimmanci. Zane hanyar (s) da kuke son bi, bayyana a takarda a fili menene yanayin ku (yanayin aikinku/na samun kudin shiga, asalin ƙasarku, asalinta, matsayin aure, da sauransu) kuma tuntuɓi hukumomin Spain don ƙarin bayani. Duba idan amsarsu ta dace da ku kuma idan ta yi daidai da ƙa'idodin EU na hukuma da bukatun Mutanen Espanya. Sannan zaku iya tsara shirin gaba daga can.
A ƙarshe, shawarata ita ce karanta Jagoran EU mai zuwa ban da Dokokin EU na 2004/38, wanda ke bayyana wannan a cikin kalmomi masu sauƙi a Babi na 3 (shafi na 82):
Idan, duk da kyakkyawan shiri, har yanzu kuna makale, zaku iya tuntuɓar Ombudsman EU Solvit. Ana iya samun Solvit, a tsakanin sauran abubuwa, ta hanyar zuwa shafukan yanar gizon da aka ambata a cikin kafofin na europa.eu/youreurope danna maballin "taimako ko shawara".
A kan takarda wannan duka ya zama tsari mai sauƙi, amma yana iya bayyana a fili cewa a aikace ba shi da tsari. Ina fatan in ba ku kyakkyawan tushe wanda za ku fara. Sa'a!
Gaisuwa,
Rob V.
PS: Yana da kyau a sani, da zarar kuna zaune a Spain, abokiyar zaman ku za ta karɓi katin zama wanda ke nuna cewa ita abokiyar tarayyar EU ce. Da wannan katin, za ta iya tafiya tare da ku ba tare da biza ba zuwa duk ƙasashe membobin EU/EEA (ciki har da Burtaniya muddin tana cikin ƙasa memba) da Switzerland. A cikin lokaci, za ku iya komawa Belgium tare, inda Belgium ba za ta iya ɗora muku nata dokokin shige da fice na ƙasa ko haɗin kai ba. Ana kiran na karshen da hanyar EU.
Albarkatu da hanyoyin haɗin kai masu amfani:
- http://eur-lex.europa.eu/
- http://europa.eu/youreurope/
- http://europa.eu/youreurope/
- http://ec.europa.eu/dgs/
-- http://belgie-route.
- http://extranjeros.empleo.gob.
(Spanish)
- http://www.exteriores.gob.
Idan na kunyata wani saboda sau ɗaya ban samar da hanyoyin haɗin kai tsaye zuwa duk kafofin ba ... Wannan wani bangare ne saboda na yi shi daga ƙwaƙwalwar ajiya. Mai karatu mai mahimmanci a zahiri yana son ainihin bayanin tushe, don haka anan shine:
Daga foreignpartner.nl na ambaci lauya mai ritaya Prawo (G. Adang):
"A Ma'aikatar Harkokin Waje a Madrid, suna da masaniya game da dokokin EU.
Ƙananan ofisoshin ba sa kuma ma'aikatansu ba su da horo da / ko aiki tare da alƙawarin Latin. "
- http://www.buitenlandsepartner.nl/showthread.php?56998-Visum-ook-door-rechter-afgewezen-via-een-ander-land-een-optie&p=576948&viewfull=1#post576948
Sun san yadda ya kamata a yi a Madrid:
"Spain zabi ne mai kyau a matsayin kasar farko ta zama tun lokacin da kasar ta bi ka'idodin bayan wani hukunci daga Kotun Turai." - G. Adanga
- http://archief.wereldomroep.nl/nederlands/article/met-je-buitenlandse-partner-naar-nederland-20-tips?page=5
- Dangane da shari'ar C-157/03 a Kotun EU:
- http://curia.europa.eu/juris/liste.jsf?language=nl&jur=C,T,F&num=C-157/03&td=ALL
Abin takaici, abubuwan da suka faru na yadda abubuwa a ofishin jakadancin Spain a BKK sukan yi kuskure a aikace, kawai batun nemo batutuwa game da Spain a cikin taron 'Visas ans shige da fice zuwa wasu ƙasashe' kan ThaiVisa. Sannan za a sami batutuwa kusan goma sha biyu wadanda ba zan ambace su a nan ba.
Wannan kawai don ƙarin cikakken hoto, tushen asali da aikin tunani ba shakka EU Directive 2004/38 da bayanin Ma'aikatar Shige da Fice ta Spain (wanda yakamata ayi amfani da waɗannan yarjejeniyoyin EU daidai). Kwarewa mai amfani na jiya na iya zama tsohon zamani a yau.
Ƙarin tambaya ga Ronnie: Ina so in bi hanya ɗaya, kuma na yi aure. An kuma san auren a Netherlands, matata ma ta sami BSN. Duk da haka, babu wata takarda a hukumance na amincewa - ba a bayar da ita ba, a cewar jami'in.
To, menene wannan shaida ga hukumomin Spain ya ƙunshi?
Baya ga yin rajista da gundumar ku, kuna iya samun auren waje ya canza zuwa auren Dutch ta hanyar yin rajista tare da sashin Landelijke Taken. Wannan yana ƙarƙashin gundumar Hague. Hakanan zaka iya samun cirewar Dutch daga auren, amma nemi ɗaya don amfanin ƙasa da ƙasa.
Tabbas, a cikin ka'idar, takaddun aure na Thai yakamata ya isa (tare da fassarorin da aka sani da kuma halatta). Akwai dama mai kyau cewa Spain za ta yi kuskuren neman hujjar cewa Netherlands ta amince da auren. Irin wannan tsantsa na kasa da kasa ya kamata ya wadatar, amma a zahiri halattar takaddun Thai ta ofishin jakadancin Holland ya riga ya wuce fiye da wanda zai iya tambaya (inda halalcin Dutch ya tabbatar da daidaiton halalcin Thai MinBuZa, ofishin jakadancin Spain na iya yin hakan, duk da haka) kanka).
Idan kun yi aure a cikin Netherlands, ba shakka za ku iya samun abin cirewa daga gundumar ku.
Ps: Ni da Ronny ba mutum ɗaya ba ne kamar yadda na sani! 555 😉
Tare da amsa ta ƙarshe daga Rob V., wani haske na orange yana walƙiya a kaina:
"Wani tsantsa daga Holland na aure don amfanin duniya"
Ban fahimci wannan ba kuma alamun tambaya da yawa sun same ni.
Ni da kaina na yi aure a Thailand sama da shekaru 4 kuma aurena ya yi rajista a Belgium.
Matata tana zaune tare da ni a Belgium tsawon shekaru 4 kuma tana da katin F (katin shaida na mutanen da ba Belgium ba).
A ce zan yi ƙaura zuwa Spain, shin zan kuma nemi wani tsantsa daga auren don amfanin ƙasa da ƙasa, duk da cewa motsin mutane da kayayyaki a cikin EU kyauta ne?
Idan an yi auren rajista a ƙasar ku ta EU, to wannan ya shafi EU gabaɗaya, daidai ne?
A Belgium, akwai kuma takardar shaidar haɗar iyali. Wannan bai isa ba?
Tambayoyin da nake yi ne wadanda ban san amsar kaina ba. Amma na ga yana da amfani in yi tunani a kan hakan.
Dear Daniyel, da gaske dole ne ka ga waɗannan abubuwa daban.
1) Don yin sulhu tare da abokin tarayya na Thai don hutu ko ƙaura a ƙarƙashin ƙa'idodin EU a ƙarƙashin ƙa'idodi masu sassauƙa (ciki har da nau'in visa na Schengen kyauta), aure mai inganci ya wadatar bisa hukuma. Iyakar abin da EU ta gindaya a cikin Directive 2004/34 shine cewa wannan aure/takardun dole ne ba zamba ba. Don sanin cewa lallai takaddun suna cikin tsari, ƙasa memba na iya neman halattawa (Thai BuZa da ofishin jakadancin Turai da suka dace a Thailand, wanda ke tabbatar da sahihancin halaccin BuZa) da fassarar hukuma zuwa harshen da ƙasan memba ta fahimta. A aikace, ofishin jakadancin Spain bai gamsu da wannan ba, kodayake mutanen Madrid sun san sarai yadda abubuwa za su gudana. Spain ta yi kuskure tana son takarda a hukumance da ke nuna cewa auren kuma sananne ne kuma an san shi a cikin ƙasar ƙungiyar EU. A zahiri ba a yarda su yi tambaya ba. Haɗin kai tare da wannan sabani ko rashin iya aiki na hukuma yawanci shine mafi kyawun mafita.
2) Dan ƙasar Holland na iya da son rai (don haka ba zaɓi) ya canza auren waje zuwa takardar shaidar Dutch. Ana yin wannan ta hanyar Landelijke Taken a Hague. Hakanan zaka iya samun sauƙin cirewa a cikin Netherlands ta hanyar Landelijke Taken ko sigar ƙasa da ƙasa ta Ingilishi/multilingual. Ba dole ba ne ku sake bin sabon aiki / halatta daga Thailand. Spain ta gamsu da wannan tsattsauran auren Dutch.
"Za a iya yin rajistar takardar shaidar jama'a ta kasashen waje bayan an ba da izini tare da sashin Landelijke Taken na gundumar Hague. (…) Takaddun shaidar ƙasashen waje da aka halatta ta fito ne daga rajista a cikin rajistar matsayin farar hula na gundumar Hague. Fa'idar wannan ita ce, koyaushe kuna iya neman kwafi da cirewa daga gundumar Hague. A wannan yanayin, ba dole ba ne ka sake neman takardar shaidar a ƙasashen waje kuma ka halatta ta. ”
Source:
https://www.rijksoverheid.nl/onderwerpen/legalisatie-van-documenten/vraag-en-antwoord/inschrijven-gelegaliseerde-buitenlandse-akte
3) Idan an yi muku rajista a matsayin mazaunin Netherlands, dole ne ku bayar da rahoton auren waje ga gundumar ku. Gundumar ba ta fitar da abubuwan da aka samo daga wannan.
"Kuna zaune a Netherlands? Sa'an nan kuma dole ne ku yi rajistar aurenku ko haɗin gwiwa mai rijista a ƙasashen waje a cikin Rubutun Bayanan Bayanai na Municipal (BRP). Kuna zaune a ƙasashen waje a matsayin ɗan ƙasar Holland? To wannan ba zai yiwu ba”
Source: https://www.rijksoverheid.nl/onderwerpen/trouwen-samenlevingscontract-en-geregistreerd-partnerschap/vraag-en-antwoord/trouwen-of-geregistreerd-partnerschap-sluiten-in-het-buitenland
Don haka idan kai ɗan Holland ne da ke zaune a Belgium tare da matarka ta Thai, lamba 3 ba ta shafe ku ba. Bisa yarjejeniyar Turai, duk wani auren da ya dace da doka dole ne a amince da shi a duk cikin EU, Memba na Turai na farko da ya gama ko yin rajistar wannan aure (idan an yi aure a wajen Turai) ba shakka za ta iya bincikar auren da ya dace saboda auren yaudara ba shakka ba a yarda da shi ba. Jami'ai daban-daban na Spain a ofishin jakadancin da ke BKK, da sauransu, suna da ɗan matsala game da waɗannan ka'idodin…
Hello,
Abin ban mamaki ne cewa na fara karanta wannan a karon farko! Tunanin wannan ya shafi nahiyar Afirka kawai. Abu mafi mahimmanci shi ne cewa masoya za su iya zama / zama tare ko da menene.
Ni kaina ina ganin wadannan ka'idojin shirme ne domin suna aiki ga wata (kasa) ba na wata kasa ba. munafurcin gwamnati sai a ce.
Idan kai da wanda kake ƙauna dole ka ƙaura zuwa wata ƙasa, zan yi
don ƙaura zuwa Spain, Faransa, Belgium, Jamus da Netherlands, hanyoyin haɗin gwiwar zasu iya taimaka muku akan hanyarku.
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Akwai ƙasashe da yawa waɗanda kamfanin ke bayarwa, amma kuna iya karanta hakan daga gidan yanar gizon. Kamfani ne mai kyau wanda ke kula da komai cikin sauri da tsafta. Tabbas ya cancanci bincika gidan yanar gizon don sauran sabis na Smaragd Express.