Dear Edita/Rob V.,

Shin kowa ya san idan matata ta Thai tana da buƙatun haɗin kai ga Flanders/Belgium lokacin da muka ƙaura? Ni da matata ta Thai muna so mu koma Antwerp. Matata tana da shekara 55 kuma ni ’yar shekara 64 ce. Shekaru 20 da suka wuce na koma NL ba tare da so ba saboda matata ba ta sami takardar izinin yawon bude ido ko izinin zama na Belgium ba.

Matata ta yi shekara 20 tana zama da doka a EU, a Netherlands. Ta yi aiki na cikakken lokaci a Netherlands duk lokacin. Iliminta na harshen Holland ba shi da kyau, wani lokacin yana da wuyar fahimta. Kalmominta na Yaren mutanen Holland suna da iyaka. Amma sadarwa a aikinta yana tafiya da kyau tsawon shekaru 20. Shi ya sa ba ta ɗokin yin wani kwas na haɗin kai a Antwerp.

Ta ɗauki kwas ɗin haɗin kai a Netherlands shekaru 20 da suka gabata. amma bai samu takardar shaidar ba. Ba ta cimma matakin da ake buƙata ba "NT2" don Dutch.

Kuma idan ta zama dole ta ɗauki kwas ɗin haɗin kai a Belgium, kuma ta sake gazawa saboda ƙarancin ilimin yaren Holland, shin za ta sake ɗaukar kwas ɗin har sai ta cika ƙa'idodi?

Gaisuwa,

Johan


Dear Johan,

Idan kai, a matsayinka na ɗan ƙasar Belgium, kana zaune a cikin Netherlands tare da matarka ta Thai, dokar EU ta shafi. Don zama madaidaici, Jagoran EU 2004/38 don dangin Turawa. Wannan yana nufin, a tsakanin sauran abubuwa, cewa ba a buƙatar matarka ta shiga haɗin gwiwa a cikin Netherlands kuma tana da abin da ake kira 'katin zama' wanda ke bayyana cewa ita 'yar uwa ce ta EU/EEA na kasa (masu hijira na iyali na yau da kullum suna samun na yau da kullum') izinin zama' maimakon 'katin zama').

Idan ka koma Belgium bayan aiwatar da waɗannan haƙƙoƙin, dokoki na musamman ma suna aiki a Belgium, don haka ita ma ba za ta haɗa kai a can ba. Ban san ainihin yadda kuke fara hanya ta Ma'aikatar Shige da Fice ba, amma tabbatar da cewa kun nuna cewa kun yi amfani da dokar ku ta EU a cikin Netherlands. Zan gwammace in ɗauki katin zama na ƙasar Holland tare da haɗa kwafinsa tare da aikace-aikacen 'dan iyali na katin zama na EU/EEA' ɗan Belgium.

Ƙarin bayani akan gidan yanar gizon DVZ, duba daga taken 'Stay in Belgium': dofi.ibz.be/

Wataƙila masu karatu sun riga ku kuma za su iya raba ƙwarewar aikin su a ƙasa. Lura cewa ƙasar EU na iya buƙatar haɗin kai don zama ɗan ƙasa. Idan matarka (kuma) tana son ɗaukar ɗan ƙasar Belgium, ana iya sanya wasu wajibai.

Gaisuwa,

Rob V.

Amsoshi 11 ga "Tambayar visa ta Schengen: Shin mace ta Thai tana da aikin haɗin kai idan na koma Belgium?"

  1. Prawo in ji a

    Idan kun zauna a cikin Netherlands na dogon lokaci kuma kun tsara hakkin ku na zama a Netherlands yadda ya kamata, ya kamata ku duka biyu suna da abin da ake kira haƙƙin zama na dindindin. Idan ba haka ba, da fatan za a nemi shi da sauri ta wannan fom https://ind.nl/Formulieren/6012.pdf
    Babu wani sharadi na musamman da ya shafi wannan.
    Ba ku taɓa sanin abin da zai faru nan gaba ba kuma tare da wannan takaddar zama, ku da matar ku an rufe ku gwargwadon iko. Gara a ji kunya fiye da kunya, zan yi tunani.

    Lokacin da kuka koma Belgium kuna iya ɗaukar matar ku tare da ku.
    Sannan tana da haƙƙin ɗaya da matar ɗan ƙasar Thailand ta ɗan ƙasar Holland da ta je zama a Belgium kuma ba a buƙatar ta shiga cikin haɗin kai a can.

    A Belgium kuna yin rajista tare da gunduma. Matar ku za ta nemi izinin zama a can. Babu wata bukata ta kayan aiki a lokacin, za ta karɓi katin F bayan watanni shida kuma za ta iya neman zama na dindindin a Belgium bayan shekaru biyar. Sannan ta sami katin F+.

    • Prawo in ji a

      A cikin martani na na ɗauka cewa mai tambaya yana da ɗan ƙasar Belgium.

      Amsar Adrie da ke ƙasa tabbas ruɗi ne kuma ba a fahimta ba. Tare da dukkan girmamawa: ɗan labarin kararrawa da tafawa

      Misali, Netherlands ba ta da alaƙa da izinin zama na Belgium

      Wani zai iya karanta sharuɗɗan zaɓin a nan: https://ind.nl/Formulieren/5013.pdf
      Ba na tsammanin matar Belgium za ta iya amfani da wannan a cikin Netherlands.

  2. Adrian in ji a

    Yallabai,
    Bayanai daga Rob V. Bai cika ba. Sai kawai tare da ingantacciyar izinin zama na Belgium ba dole ba ne abokin tarayya ya haɗa kai a cikin Netherlands. Daga labarin ku na fahimci cewa abokin tarayya ba shi da wannan. Ina tsammanin za ku iya samun wannan takarda bayan watanni 4, na karanta wannan sau ɗaya.
    Ban sani ba ko abokin tarayya ya zauna a Netherlands fiye da shekaru 15 (ci gaba) kuma ya yi aure da mutumin Holland fiye da shekaru 3, a cikin wannan yanayin za ta iya samun dan kasar Holland ta hanyar tsarin zaɓi. Don ƙarin bayani, duba IND.nl, tsarin zaɓi.
    Gaisuwa Adrian

    • Rob V. in ji a

      Dear Adri, ina tsammanin kuna juya wasu abubuwa? Ta yaya dan Thai da ya zo Netherlands zai sami takardar izinin zama na Belgium? Wannan ya shafi wani mutum dan kasar Beljiyam tare da matar kasar Thailand, dake zaune a kasar Netherlands. Sa'an nan Thais ba su taba zama dole su shiga cikin Netherlands a ƙarƙashin dokar EU ba. Kuma idan sun koma Belgium, ba su da wani aikin haɗin kai a can su ma.

      Duba kuma ƙarin abubuwan da ke amfani da Prawo.

      NB: baya shafi Johan, amma akasin haka, yanayin zai kasance wannan tare da ma'auratan Dutch-Thai:
      – motsi kai tsaye zuwa Netherlands: haɗin kai da ake buƙata
      - Ma'auratan Dutch da Thai za su zauna a BE: babu haɗin kai. Idan kun ƙaura zuwa Netherlands, ba za a sami haɗin kai a can ba, amma kuna iya tabbatar da ainihin wurin zama a BE tare da katin zama na Belgium da sauran takaddun. Matsakaicin lokacin zama shine watanni 3, amma kasancewa a gefe baya sa ma'aikacin shige da fice farin ciki (shato saboda 'cin zarafi' saboda haka jami'ai masu hana ruwa gudu).

  3. martin in ji a

    Ranar, lokacin da na zo Belgium a 2008 tare da matata Thai, na yi aure a Thailand, kuma aka yi mata rajista da gundumomi, ta yi kwas ɗin haɗin kai kuma ta wuce da ban mamaki, tana da abokan aikinta da yawa daga ƙasashen waje na Turai da Afirka. wanda ya gaza, don haka babu sha'awa.Don haka zan ce idan matarka ta fahimci yaren, to ba shi da wahala kamar a Netherlands.
    Na gode, Martin

  4. Stefan in ji a

    Ba zan iya yin sharhi kan ƙa'idodin ba. Ina da tip. Kafin ku zauna a cikin gundumar Belgian: yi magana da magajin gari. Tambayi ko yana son yin rijistar matarka a cikin gundumar. Tattaunawa mai kyau yawanci yana tabbatar da yin rajista mai sauƙi, don haka ba zai zama matsala ga DVZ ba.

    • Johan in ji a

      Kyakkyawan ra'ayi!
      Zai yi wuya a yi magana da Bart de Wever, magajin garin Antwerp. Idan na rike ma'aikacin gwamnati na kasa, zan gamsu!

    • Yahaya in ji a

      A bayyane yake har yanzu akwai wani abu da za a "shirya" a Belgium. Na sani a baya amma ina tsammanin ya ƙare yanzu. Na ji daɗin cewa har yanzu lamarin yana nan a Belgium.

  5. Johan in ji a

    Na gode, Rob.
    Bayyananniyar labari, tare da haɗa rubutun doka!

  6. m mutum in ji a

    Baturen Ya auri wata 'yar Asiya tsawon shekaru 10.
    Rayuwa a Belgium. Mace tana da katin F (mai aiki har tsawon shekaru 5). Ana buƙatar ɗaukar kwas ɗin yaren Dutch na shekara 2 zuwa 3 wanda ƙasar Belgium ta biya kuma nan ba da jimawa ba za ta halarci kwas ɗin haɗin kai. Babu wani abu da ya wajaba, amma idan ba ku yi haka ba, ba za a sabunta rajistar Belgian ba bayan shekaru 5.

    • Rob V. in ji a

      Dear Brabantman, me kuke nufi da 'rejistar Belgium'? Ba za su iya ƙin tsawaita haƙƙin ku na zama ba saboda gazawar haɗin gwiwa, saboda wannan ba kuma ba za a iya buƙata a ƙarƙashin dokokin EU ba. Idan ba ku shiga da son rai ba, DVZ ba za ta iya taimaka muku ba. Amma idan kwas ɗin kyauta gaba ɗaya ya dace da ku, ba shakka za ku iya cin gajiyar wannan tayin da yardar ku. Ko kuwa wani jami'in ya yi nasarar yin barazanar cewa bai kamata a yi ba amma 'dole ne' a yi?

      Belgians kuma sun san cewa Turawa da danginsu ba za a iya tilasta musu yin komai ba, duba (watakila akwai hanyoyin haɗin gwiwa mafi kyau) misali: https://www.agii.be/nieuws/behoud-verblijf-wordt-afhankelijk-van-integratie-inspanningen

      "Ko da yake doka ta sanya niyyar haɗawa a matsayin babban yanayin zama, wannan yanayin bai shafi wasu nau'ikan aikace-aikacen zama da matsayi ba:
      – (…)
      - Jama'a na ƙungiyar, gami da membobin dangi da ke neman a ƙarƙashin Mataki na 40, 40bis ko 40ter
      – ‘Yan kasar Belgium wadanda suka yi amfani da ‘yancinsu na yin motsi, gami da ‘yan uwa
      - Mazauna na dogon lokaci a cikin EU waɗanda ke buƙatar zama na biyu a Belgium
      – (…)”


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