Yan uwa masu karatu,

Ina so in jawo hankalin ku ga sababbin dokoki don neman MVV. Na karanta cewa daga Oktoba 2012 ana ba da izinin aikace-aikacen MVV idan abokan tarayya sun yi aure.

Bugu da ƙari, ba a yarda da aure a cikin Netherlands, amma dole ne a yi shi a ƙasar asali.

Waɗannan canje-canjen suna da tsauri ga, alal misali, mutanen Holland waɗanda ke son kawo abokin tarayya na Thai zuwa Netherlands.

Tambayata ita ce: shin akwai wasu masu karatu da suka rigaya suka kware da waɗannan dokoki? Shin akwai wasu hanyoyin ƙirƙirar kamar hanyar Belgium?

Tare da gaisuwa mai kyau,

Shugaba

Amsoshi 12 ga "Tambaya mai karatu: Wanene ke da gogewa tare da sabbin dokoki don aikace-aikacen MVV?"

  1. Rob V. in ji a

    An yi sa'a, wannan wajabcin aure na banza (tilastawa aure ta jiha) haɗin gwiwar VVD da PvdA sun soke. Wadanda ba su yi aure ba kuma za su iya sake gabatar da takarda ga IND. A farkon watan Afrilu ne za a gabatar da sauyin dokar (juyawa) a hukumance, amma majalisar ministocin kasar ta riga ta sanar da cewa wadanda ba su da aure da suka gabatar da bukatar neman zaman aure tsakanin 1 ga Oktoba kuma yanzu za su sami kyakkyawan shawara muddin duk sauran sharudda ( kamar tsauraran bukatun samun kudin shiga) sun cika. Abin takaici, IND tana jinkirin maye gurbin "tsohuwar" shawarwarin neman shawarwari (Ina tsammanin suna jira har zuwa Afrilu?),

    A halin yanzu, lokacin neman shawara, zaku iya KO amfani da fom na yanzu kuma kuyi alamar cewa ba ku da aure, KO kunna tsohuwar sigar fom (duba hanyar haɗin gwiwa). A haɗe bayanin da ke bayanin cewa kuna gabatar da aikace-aikacen a matsayin wanda ba a yi aure ba kuma ku koma ga sanarwar Sakatariyar Jiha Teeven da sabunta labarai a kan shafin IND kanta a farkon 2013 cewa za a gwada aikace-aikacen waɗanda ba su yi aure ba a kan tsohuwar manufa.

    Idan kun gabatar da aikace-aikacen kai tsaye (BP yana yin haka a ofishin jakadancin) to ba lallai ne ku damu da hakan ba, ƙarin fa'ida ita ce ta iya ba da sanarwar IND na kasa bayan makonni 8 (dole ne su amsa cikin makonni 2) kuma za a iya ki amincewa da ku. Rashin hasara shi ne cewa dole ne ku biya kudaden a gaba.

    Ba da labari mara kyau:
    http://buitenlandsepartner.nl/showthread.php?55245-Trouweis-gaat-vervallen

    Nasara!

  2. ja in ji a

    Shawarata ita ce: tambayi ofishin jakadancin Holland a Bangkok, musamman mutanen Holland da ke aiki a can. Kwarewata game da aika imel da samun amsa yana da kyau. Hakanan ana iya samun bayanai daga IND; Duk da haka, gwaninta shine cewa suna da tsayi sosai; ba a bayyane kamar ofishin jakadanci ba. Dalilin da ya sa nake rubuta wannan: don kauce wa tattaunawa mai yawa a nan daga mutanen da suke da kyau, amma ba su da masaniya "inda mai tafawa ya rataye" da "ji da / ko tunani" amma rubuta wani abu. Shawarata ita ce kawai a bincika ta hanya mafi guntu (watau ofishin jakadanci da IND) a sami bayanai a can.

    • Rob V. in ji a

      Lokacin yin shiri, yana da kyau a fara karanta manyan fayiloli, fom ɗin da bayanan kan layi a hankali, idan har yanzu kuna da tambayoyi, yana da kyau ku aika imel ta IND - bayan haka jami'in zai tuntuɓar ku-, zaku iya kira (za ku iya). zama ma'aikacin taimako na waje) amma sau da yawa kuna samun amsoshi daban-daban ga tambaya. Har ila yau, ofishin jakadanci zai san wani abu, misali idan ya zo ga abin da dan kasar waje zai ba da shi a cikin kantin sayar da kaya a ofishin jakadancin, amma masu shiga da fita sun fi sani da IND, wanda ke da alhakin duka. Duk hanyoyin da ke kewaye da MVV da VVR .

      Don ƙarin shawara, akwai ƙwarewa da ƙwarewa da yawa da za a samu a Gidauniyar Abokan Hulɗa na Ƙasashen waje (duba saƙona), alal misali, IND ba ta ba da kyakkyawan bayani game da hanyar EU ba (wannan yana ganin gwamnati a matsayin cin zarafi). na haƙƙin EU, kamar yadda minista ya bayyana a shekarun baya). A bara na sami nasarar kammala tsarin MVV da VVR da kuma ɗan gajeren zama visa a baya, wannan duk ya yi kyau ta hanyar karanta fom da manyan fayiloli a hankali kuma godiya ga SBP inda na sami nasihu masu yawa. IND da ofishin jakadanci kuma sun amsa min tambayoyina da kyau.

  3. Rien Stam in ji a

    Matsalata sau da yawa ita ce game da kowane irin labaran da ke cikin wannan mujalla, cewa ana amfani da gajarta sau da yawa kuma ni, kuma ina fata tare da ni har ma da mutanen Holland da ke Thailand, ba zan iya gano ainihin abin da mutane ke magana akai ba.

    Misali: Aikace-aikacen don MVV
    Sallama zuwa ko ta IND
    BP a ofishin jakadancin.

    Wataƙila wani zai iya taimaka mini da hakan.
    Na gode a gaba
    Mr Rien Stam

    • Rob V. in ji a

      Yi haƙuri, ga wasu ma'anoni na gajarta da aka saba amfani da su:
      -MVV: Izinin zama na wucin gadi, wannan ita ce takardar izinin shiga ga waɗanda ba na yamma ba (ban da Japan da wasu ƙasashe).
      - VVR: Izinin zama na yau da kullun
      - VKV: Takaddar Visa (max 90 days), tsohon "visa yawon bude ido" .
      – IND: Sabis na Shige da Fice
      - BP: Abokin Waje (Ide ND ya kira wannan "baƙon" da abokin tarayya na Holland "mai magana").
      – SBP: Gidauniyar Abokan Hulɗar Waje.

    • Ronald in ji a

      Waɗannan gajartawar:
      MVV = Izinin zama na ɗan lokaci
      IND = Sabis na Shige da Fice
      BP = Abokin Waje.

      Idan ba su sami wani wahala fiye da wannan ba, jin daɗin tambayar wasu ƙarin…

  4. Andrew Nederpel ne adam wata in ji a

    Wataƙila wannan ba shi da alaƙa da batun, amma ina tsammanin a kaikaice shi ne.
    Har yanzu abin tausayi ne ka kasa zabar budurwarka daga kowace kasa.
    Gwamnati ta yanke shawarar ko zabinku yana da kyau, ina ganin har yanzu wannan yana cikin fuskantar wariya.
    Ina fata sauran mutane za su yarda da ni kuma za a tilasta muku barin zabin ku a kan dan kasar da ba ku so.
    Ina yiwa kowa fatan alkhairi da fatan samun sakamako mai kyau.

  5. Khan Martin in ji a

    Da alama buƙatun daurin auren zai ƙare a ranar 1 ga Afrilu. Maimakon haka, dole ne ku nuna cewa kuna da dangantaka mai ɗorewa da abokin tarayya.
    Ana iya samun wasiƙar Teeven game da soke buƙatun aure a intanet, amma har yanzu ban ci karo da sanarwar hukuma ba game da soke buƙatun.

    • Rob V. in ji a

      Tsohuwar manufar cewa dole ne ku sami dawwamammen dangantaka tare da abokin tarayya (don nunawa ta hanyar amsa tambayoyin tambayoyi da shaidu masu goyan baya kamar hotuna, rasitoci, da sauransu) ana sake dawowa.

      Hukumar ta IND ta sanar da hakan ne a shafinta na yanar gizo a farkon watan Janairu (amma mutanen da ke bibiyar tattaunawar majalisar za su iya sanin hakan a karshen watan Disamba, a IND ta dauki makonni kadan, don haka sai ta dauki wata guda kafin hakan. IND ta gabatar da sabon farashin fanko da aka sanar yayin da ministar ta riga ta fitar da wata wasika tare da sabbin kudaden wata daya baya):
      Ƙaddamar da manufar haɗin gwiwa (abun labarai | 09-01-2013):
      Matakan ƙaura na iyali sun fara aiki a ranar 1 ga Oktoba 2012. (..)
      Dangane da yarjejeniyar haɗin gwiwa, wadda ta tanadi cewa dangantaka mai tsawo da keɓancewa ta wadatar wajen haɗa dangi da kafa, Sakataren Tsaro da Shari’a na Jiha ya sanar da Majalisar Wakilai ta wasiƙa mai kwanan wata 21 ga Disamba 2012 cewa manufofin abokan tarayya kamar yadda aka aiwatar. kafin 1 Oktoba 2012, an sake shiga. Wannan yana buƙatar gyara ga Dokar Aliens. Manufar ita ce wannan gyara ya fara aiki a farkon rabin Afrilu 2013.
      Source: https://www.ind.nl/nieuws/2013/beoogdeherinvoeringvanhetpartnerbeleid.aspx?cp=110&cs=46613
      * Wasiƙa daga Teeven, duba abin da aka makala a cikin labarin*

      Amma ba dole ba ne ku jira har zuwa Afrilu, akwai mutanen da suka gabatar da bukatar zama tare da abokin aure bayan Oktoba 1 (ciki har da Janairu) kuma sun riga sun sami saƙo mai kyau, kamar yadda aka bayyana a cikin wasika: kamar yadda Tsarin tsaka-tsaki ga gabatarwar hukuma mutanen da suka gabatar da aikace-aikacen su bayan 1 ga Oktoba kuma za su sami kyakkyawar shawara (idan an cika sauran sharuɗɗan).

      Wannan sabuwar manufar ita ce godiya ga PvdA (duba kuma yarjejeniyar haɗin gwiwa), a gefe guda, an tsara shi don ƙara yawan abin da ake bukata daga shekaru 3 (aure) da shekaru 5 (marai aure) zuwa shekaru 7 ga duk baƙi. Amma wannan shawara ba a kammala ba tukuna ... Ban san abin da shirin ya kasance na kasa biyu ba, Rutte 1 yana aiki a kan haramcin wannan, yana so ya canza wannan a minti na karshe saboda zanga-zangar daga, da sauransu. ƴan ƙasar Holland ƴan ƙasashen waje da kamfanoni na duniya don haka kawai mutane ba za su iya samun DN a ƙofar ba, amma mutanen da suka yi hijira ... amma sai majalisar ministocin Rutte 1 ta fadi. abun da ke ciki na yanzu ba za a sami rinjaye don iyakance DN ba.

      Yarjejeniyar haɗin gwiwar Rutte II ta ce:
      “Manufar mu ta shige da fice tana takurawa, adalci da kuma karkata zuwa ga hadewa. (…) Manufar shige da fice za ta yi la'akari da iyawar al'umma. (…) Ga duk sababbi, umarnin Dutch yana nufin ilimin
      al'umma da aikin da ake biya suna ba da kyakkyawan fata don samun nasarar haɗin kai."

      – Abokin tarayya dole ne ya kasance aƙalla shekaru 24. <- (ba a yarda da wannan ba saboda yarjejeniyar EU)
      – An haramta aure tsakanin ‘yan uwan ​​juna.
      – Hijira na iyali ya shafi dangin nukiliya: dangantaka mai dorewa, keɓantacciyar dangantaka tsakanin abokan tarayya da waɗanda ke cikin gidan ta hanyar dangi na rayuwa.
      - Muna ƙarfafa bukatun haɗin kai, a ƙasashen waje da kuma a cikin Netherlands.
      – Shirye-shiryen jarrabawar haɗin kai alhakin waɗanda abin ya shafa ne.
      – Dole ne a biya kuɗin haɗin gwiwar jama'a don kanku, amma ana iya aro kuɗi (tun daga 1-1-2013, amma dole ne a biya wannan gabaɗaya, duba). http://www.inburgeren.nl)
      – Ana bin ƙoƙarin haɗin kai akai-akai kuma tun daga farko.
      – Duk wanda bai yi qoqari ba ya rasa izinin zama.
      – Tsawon shekaru biyar yanzu ya shafi jefa kuri’a a zabukan kananan hukumomi, ba da izinin zama ba tare da rasa ‘yancin zama ba yayin neman fa’idodin taimakon jama’a. Za a tsawaita wannan har zuwa shekaru bakwai.

      Kuma me yasa? Domin mutane a Hague suna da ra'ayin cewa ana buƙatar tsauraran manufofi don hana mutane marasa galihu. Da kaina, ina tsammanin sun wuce gona da iri tare da dokokinsu kuma ta wannan hanyar da gaske suna hana yawancin ƙaura nagari da abokan aikinsu na Holland a cikin 'yancinsu kuma suna kusantar su ta hanyar ba da tallafi ko ma rashin mutuntawa. Kasancewar ba sa son wani ya “riƙe hannunsu a kan wannan nan da nan bayan isowa” kuma kada su shiga cikin al’umma gwargwadon iyawarsu yana da kyau kuma yana da ma’ana, amma manufar gwamnati tana da sanyi musamman.

      - Dukansu VVD da PvdA (da CDA, SGP, D66 da PVV) suna son sake gabatar da mafi ƙarancin albashi na 120%, amma an yi sa'a wannan kuma ba a yarda da shi ba saboda dokokin EU. Don haka ya kasance abin da ake buƙata na mafi ƙarancin albashi 100% kuma mai ɗorewa (watau garanti ta hanyar kwangila na tsawon watanni 12 masu zuwa a lokacin aikace-aikacen KO ya cika wannan a cikin shekaru 3 da suka gabata).

      A ƙarshe: wannan lokacin rani za a sami ƙarin sauye-sauye, "dokar ƙaura ta zamani" za ta fara aiki, wanda zai canza hakki / wajibai daban-daban. Bukatun neman shawara ba zai yiwu ba, mai daukar nauyin da kuma dan kasar waje zai iya gabatar da takarda kai tsaye ga IND ko Ofishin Jakadancin bi da bi. Don ƙarin bayani da sabuntawa, kula da gidan yanar gizon IND (sabuwar labarai).

  6. Khan Martin in ji a

    PS Har ila yau, abin tambaya ne abin da Brussels ke tunani game da wannan, saboda a Jamus, alal misali, buƙatar bikin aure har yanzu yana da alama.

  7. Khan Martin in ji a

    Rob, ka san ko wannan bukata ta aure ta shafi Jamus da Belgium?
    mrsgr. Martin.

    • Rob V. in ji a

      Abin takaici ba ni da kwarewa kai tsaye da wannan da kaina. Shin kuna neman hanyar EU (zama a matsayin ɗan ƙasar Holland a wata ƙasa ta EU na tsawon watanni don samun haƙƙin zama daga BP dangane da haƙƙin EU)?

      Ya zama wajibi ga Jamusawa da ke zaune a Jamus tare da BP: wani abokinmu Bajamushe ya sa budurwarsa ta zo sama da shekaru 2 sannan ya yi aure. Na yi imani wannan ma haka yake a Belgium: za ku iya kawo abokin tarayya sannan ku yi aure a nan, wanda shine abin da ake bukata don zama na dogon lokaci.

      Kasar Holland ma tana da irin wannan makirci daga ranar 1 ga Oktoba (shigarwa sannan kuma a yi aure a nan domin a nemi izinin zama - muddin dai an cika sauran sharuddan - amma wannan ya takaita ga mutanen da ba za su iya yin aure ba a cikin BP.. Hakanan mutum zai iya yin aure a cikin Netherlands ta hanyar shigar da VKV, amma abokin tarayya dole ne kawai ya dawo bayan iyakar kwanaki 90. Lokaci mai ma'ana sosai saboda aure (rejistar aure an riga an gama shi a waje). Netherlands da kuma (don daura sabon aure) abin da ake kira M46 Sham Marriage Investigation dole ne a yi tare da BP. Irin wannan M46 yana gudana ta cikin gundumomi, IND da 'yan sanda na baƙi kuma yana iya ɗaukar watanni 2.

      Idan kuna son yin aure a cikin Netherlands tare da BP ɗinku wanda har yanzu yana zaune a wajen Netherlands, ko kuma a yi rajistar aurenku a nan, kuna iya yin tambaya game da wannan a gundumar ku (tsarin binciken auren sham na M46).

      Idan kuna son yin hanyar EU, yana da kyau a sami bayanai akan gidan yanar gizon Gidauniyar Abokan Hulɗar Waje, misali game da kowane buƙatun aminci. Tabbas, yana da kyau koyaushe a sami buƙatu gabaɗaya game da ƙaura ta hanyar karanta ƙasidu da gidan yanar gizon IND, amma ba su ba da wani bayani game da hanyar EU ba. Ta hanyar SBP kuma za ku sami nassoshi na bayanai daga hukumomin Belgium ko Jamus.A ƙarshe, yana da kyau a karanta bayanan hukuma a kowane lokaci. Kyakkyawan shiri ta hanyar takaddun hukuma da ƙwarewar ƙwararrun ƙwararrun kwanan nan (lauyoyin ƙaura) shine rabin yaƙin.


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