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Gida » Tambaya mai karatu » Shin karuwar kudaden fensho na jihar ya shafi masu ritaya na Netherlands a Thailand?
Shin karuwar kudaden fensho na jihar ya shafi masu ritaya na Netherlands a Thailand?
Yan uwa masu karatu,
Labari mai dadi daga Netherlands: mafi ƙarancin albashi, sabili da haka kuma fensho na jihohi, za a ƙara da 10% daga Janairu saboda karuwar farashin rayuwa da kudaden makamashi mai yawa.
Tambayata: Shin wannan kuma ya shafi baki da ke zaune a Thailand? Inda mafi girman tsadar rayuwa ba ta kusa da ban mamaki kamar a cikin Netherlands?
Gaisuwa,
Wil
Editoci: Shin kuna da tambaya ga masu karatun Thailandblog? Yi amfani da shi hanyar sadarwa.
Tabbas. Ga NL har yanzu haka lamarin yake. (Ba a ƙara karuwa a cikin fensho na jiha a Burtaniya bayan barin ƙasar)
Shin, kun karanta wani wuri cewa kawai ya shafi NL da EU? Ni ma.
Ina bin ra'ayin Wil cewa farashin rayuwa ya yi ƙasa a Tailandia don haka haɓakar ƙila ba zai shafi ƴan ƙasar waje ba. Amma yaya game da waɗanda ke zaune a NY, ya kamata su sami ƙarin, saboda rayuwa ta fi tsada a can. Da kaina, ina tsammanin kun cancanci abin da kuka yi aiki tsawon rayuwar ku. Shin kuna yin hakan yanzu a Spain ko Tailandia ko ƙasarku, ba komai. Har yanzu game da abin da kuke samu bayan ritayar ku ya danganta da shekarun sabis ɗin ku da kuɗin shiga kuma ba za a iya dogara da inda zaku kashe shi da nawa ba.
Gaba ɗaya yarda Hans. Abin takaici, muna da tsarin biyan-kamar yadda kuke tafiya don AOW. Don haka ma'aikata
mazauna cq waɗanda ke biyan gudummawar AOW, suna biyan waɗanda ke karɓar AOW a halin yanzu. Domin ba ku biya kuɗin ku ba, koyaushe ina jin cewa kun fi dogaro da shawarar gwamnati, misali. Ko da yake akwai doka duka a kusa da shi. Amma sosai na sirri ba shakka.
Don komawa zuwa ga "Ba za a iya dogara da inda kuke ciyarwa ba." Netherlands tana da "ƙasar ƙa'idar zama" don haka ya dogara ne akan inda kuke zama da kuma ciyar da shi. Don haka za ku sami ƙarancin AOW a ƙasashe daban-daban. Wannan kuma shine abin da nake nufi da jin cewa ba ku da wani abu a kan irin wannan "tsarin rarraba AOW". An yi sa'a har yanzu ba don Thailand ba, amma kar a tashe su.
Dear Pjotter, wannan ba gaskiya ba ne abin da kuke faɗa. Dangane da ƙa'idar ƙasar zama, ba za a rage ku ba (na maimaita: a'a) akan kuɗin fansho na jiha saboda dokar ka'ida ta Jiha ba ta da ma'ana game da fa'idodin fansho na jiha. Ana amfani da ƙa'idar ƙasar zama ga fa'idodi saboda amfanin yara da kasafin kuɗin yara, da waɗanda suka dogara da WIA da ANW. (A wasu halayen, ana yin la'akari da aikace-aikacen ƙa'idar ƙasar zama: wannan hakika yana da alaƙa da, a tsakanin sauran abubuwa, Wia ba tare da AOW ba, har ma aikace-aikacen ya zama mara amfani.)
Pjotter, a cikin amsar da na ba Andrew na bayyana yadda haƙƙin fensho na jihohi ke iyakance a cikin ƙasashen waje kuma hakan yana da alaƙa da BEU, Iyakance Fa'idodin Fitarwa. Ko kadan babu wata yarjejeniya ta BEU da kowace kasa; tare da Thailand don haka, idan kuna zaune a Tailandia, za ku sami fa'idar mutum mara aure idan kun kasance marasa aure.
Don haka wannan ba shi da alaƙa da ka'idar ƙasar zama; wannan ba (har yanzu) ya shafi AOW.
Gaskiyar cewa fensho na jihohi ya dogara ne akan siyasa a cikin Netherlands shine ainihin daya daga cikin dalilan da yasa wata ƙungiya ta himmatu don ba ku damar zabar majalisar dattijai idan kuna zaune a ƙasashen waje. Lokacin da kuka je jefa kuri'a (shekara mai zuwa), ku mai da hankali sosai ga jam'iyyun da ke son iyakance fitar da fa'ida.
Bamu zaben majalisar dattawa - 1st Chamber - a NL, ko?
Cornelis, da gaske wannan yana zuwa. Kun rasa saƙonnin, kuma a nan.
A halin yanzu, mambobin majalisar lardi ne ke zabar mambobin majalisar ta daya. Shin hakan ya canza? To tabbas na rasa wani abu…
Cornelis, zai ci gaba da kasancewa haka, amma za a ƙara kwalejin zaɓe kuma wanda ya ƙunshi kuri'u daga kasashen waje. Ka ce lardin 13.
Kawai tarawa na shekara mai zuwa ko a cikin shekaru 2 ƙarin haraji za a hana saboda sabuwar yarjejeniya.
AOW da AOW. Babu azuzuwan daban-daban. Kasancewa marar aure ko tare da dangantaka kawai abubuwa ne masu yuwuwa.
Don AOW za a sami 10% akan karuwa na yau da kullun, ƙimar 1st bracket IB shima zai ragu kaɗan.
Gabaɗaya kusan 12% Yana Aiwatar a cikin Netherlands da Duniya baki ɗaya. An bayyana pico bello akan gidan yanar gizon NIBUD.
Dear Andrew van Schaik (ba tare da manyan ba?)
Haɓaka 10% na yau da kullun yana da daɗi da yawa.
Adadin sashi 1 yana raguwa da ƙasa da 0,14% bisa ga torend.nl da NIBUD.
Don haka ya sanya jimlar 10,14%.
da George
George, ka ɗauki tsumman makoki.
A Tailandia, fansho na jiha zai zama sama da kashi 10 cikin ɗari. Adadin shine kashi 9 cikin ɗari (da wasu bayan ƙima….) don haka kari na zai zama 10 ya rage kashi 0.9 ko kashi 9,1 na tara.
A cikin Netherlands yanzu ina biyan kusan kashi 19 a matsayin mai karɓar fansho na AOW. Kashi goma fiye da kashi 19 cikin 8,1 na wannan ya bar kusan kashi XNUMX cikin ɗari na waɗannan goman.
Da fatan ba ku da gaskiya Eric.
Abin da ya kamata mu yi la’akari da shi (a ganina) ita ce dokar BEU. An kama mutanen Holland mazauna Indonesia, alal misali, saboda haka. Wannan zai kashe kuɗi kuma yawancin mutanen Holland waɗanda yanzu ke zaune a Tailandia kuma waɗanda ba su cika buƙatun samun kuɗin shiga na Visa ba za su dawo.
Saboda AOW fa'ida ce ta zamantakewa, ana iya daidaita adadin ta hanyar doka ta BEU zuwa rayuwar Thai.
Babu shakka za a gwada wannan doka a kan sabuwar yarjejeniya.
Andrew, haka ne?
Wataƙila mafi kyawun tambayar wannan ga ƙwararre akan inshorar zamantakewa kamar Lammert de Haan amma lokacin da na karanta wannan rukunin yanar gizon,
https://www.stimulansz.nl/wonen-thailand-indonesie-en-zuid-afrika-uitkering/
sannan AOW ba za a tauye shi ba saboda tsadar rayuwa. Ko da yake ina iya tunanin cewa akwai jam'iyyun siyasa a NL da ke son canza wannan. Ka yi tunanin kuɗin haraji.
A cikin ƙasashen BEU, irin su Tailandia, za ku iya samun fiye da ainihin AOW (fa'idar 50%, fa'idar haɗin gwiwa) idan an ba ku iko akan hanyar rayuwa (tare) a cikin ƙasar bisa yarjejeniyar BEU. SSO a Tailandia ita ma tana yin wannan.
Hum, SSO na duba cewa… To, sun ga idan abokin tarayya ya zo tare kuma yana da ID. Ba su taɓa zuwa don bincika ko ina zaune ni kaɗai ba (tare da haƙƙin fa'idar 70%) ko rayuwa tare (tare da haƙƙin izinin abokin tarayya a lokacin).
Amma ka tambayi Lammert de Haan, wannan shine ƙarin filinsa.
A ƙarshe, jimlar kuɗin fansho na tsufa zai ƙaru da kashi 10%, saboda harajin da ake biya kafin da bayan karuwar kusan iri ɗaya ne.
So, me kuke nufi da baki!
Dear Wil, kuna yin tambayar ku ba daidai ba. Kuna magana game da: "baƙi da ke zaune a Thailand". Ina tsammanin mutane daga, misali, Indiya ko Kanada ba sa samun fa'idodin AOW na Dutch. Amma idan kuna nufin, a tsakanin sauran abubuwa, masu ritaya na Dutch tare da AOW suna zaune a Thailand, to amsar Erik ta isa.
Oh… .. Na fahimci cewa AOW na dukan baƙi ne. Na dan yi hakuri game da nitpicking.
Dear Henk, hakika kun yi kuskure. Babu AOW ga duk baƙi. To, ga waɗanda suka rayu a cikin Netherlands (na yawan shekaru) da kuma tara 2% na amfanin ga kowace shekara da suka zauna a can. Babu nitpicking, amma kauce wa rashin fahimta. Sau da yawa muna dogara ga hikimarmu. Misali, macen Thai za ta karɓi AOW idan abokin aikinta na Holland ya mutu. Ba haka ba.
Tabbas, ta kasashen waje ina nufin 'yan fansho na Holland. Yi hakuri da kuskuren harshe na
Oh, nima na yi kuskuren karanta wannan. To, don haka a zahiri ta hanyar haɗari, an ba da amsar daidai ga tambayar da aka yi niyya Wil, ha ha.
Ga abin da Tambon ya ce Henk. Nemo wasu sunayen wasu ƙasashe don jin daɗi. Da kuma abin da Tambon ya ce game da wata mata Thai (ba ta taɓa rayuwa ko aiki a Netherlands ba) tana karɓar fansho na jiha idan abokin aikinta ya mutu. Ba haka lamarin yake ba a NL.
Misali, a Jamus, Switzerland da Ostiriya, matan Thai DO suna karɓar “Witwenrente” bayan sun yi aure aƙalla shekaru 3 ga Farang daga waɗannan ƙasashe. Kashi 70% na fansho da mutumin da ya rasu yake da shi. Koda matar bata taba zuwa wadancan kasashen ba.
Jamus:
Deutsche Rentenversicherung > Yawan ribar jiha
Birtaniya:
Gidan baƙo na asali
Switzerland:
AHV - Canje-canje da Hinterlassenenversicherung
Belgiumë:
fansho mai ritaya
Faransa:
ritaya
Spain:
Tsaro na Tsaro
Italiya:
tsufa
Austria:
Pensions versicherung
Pjotter, aƙalla a Jamus, auren dole ne a yi rajista a cikin yawan jama'a; A Jamus ana kiran wannan sashin Sashen Matsayin Iyali a gundumar inda ma'aurata ke ko aka yi rajista. Hakanan yana iya zama haka a wasu ƙasashe.
Daidai Eric. To, kowace kasa tana da riba da rashin amfaninta.
Ostiraliya kuma tana da “kyakkyawan” fansho na jiha. Kuna samun wannan kawai idan kun zauna a Ostiraliya na akalla shekaru 2 a jere.
Don haka saita kamar a cikin akwati na; Ni/Ostiraliya ina zaune a Thailand yanzu kuma ba ni da fansho na jiha tukuna. Ba ku samun hakan a shekarun ku na AOW/jihar fansho. Don samun hakan, dole ne ku/Baturen Australiya ya fara zama a Australia aƙalla shekaru 2.