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Kwanan nan, don amsa tambayar mai karatu, mun karanta a nan tattaunawa game da harajin fansho na jiha bayan ƙaura zuwa Thailand. Bayanin da ke cikin ɗayan martanin shine: kuna iya tambayar SVB don keɓancewa daga harajin albashi akan AOW. Ga hanyar haɗi zuwa waccan tattaunawar: https://www.thailandblog.nl/lezersvraag/belastingplicht-thailand-voor-nederlandse-expats/

A cikin wannan tattaunawa na sanar da cewa zan mika wannan ga SVB. 

Hakika na san cewa SVB ba game da wannan ba ne ko kadan; Hukumar Tax da Kwastam ne ke da alhakin hakan, kuma alkali, kuma a ƙarshe, doka da yarjejeniyoyin, ɗan majalisa, don haka gwamnati da Jihohi tare. Amma bayan shekaru bakwai na tattaunawa a cikin wannan shafi game da haraji, na san cewa wannan batu yana da mahimmanci.

To, SVB yana yin ɗan gajeren aiki na tambaya na (rubuta) ko zan iya samun keɓancewa daga harajin albashi akan AOW daga wannan sabis ɗin idan ina zaune a Thailand.

Don haka a'a! Sai dai idan ba zan iya nuna keɓancewa daga hukumomin haraji ba. Kuma ku yi imani da ni, ba za a taɓa samun ɗaya ƙarƙashin yarjejeniyar yanzu da Thailand ba.

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  1. Wil Van Rooyen in ji a

    Yi hakuri Eric,
    godiya ga duk kokarin da ya shiga cikin wannan.

  2. William Yayi in ji a

    Bai kamata ku tambayi Heerlen don wannan shawarar ba, akwai wata mace da ta ƙirƙira dabaran. Kawai shigar da dawo da harajin shiga bayan shekara guda kuma nuna cewa kuna zaune a Thailand kuma ana biyan kuɗin fensho na jiha a wani wuri (Thailand) kuma a can kuna da shi, an hana harajin albashi a cikin watanni 2.

    • Erik in ji a

      Wim, ana biyan kuɗin fensho na jiha a wani wuri a ƙarƙashin yarjejeniya da Thailand, ban yarda da hakan ba! Amma idan kun yi nasara, kuna da albarkata, mutum na iya zamewa.

      Dangane da 'wannan matar' a Heerlen, kamar yadda na san ta daɗe da yin ritaya.

      • Erik in ji a

        Amma, Wim, abin da kuke ba da shawara anan yaudara ne. Kuma hakan yana da haɗari kamar yadda wataƙila kun sani…. Don haka kar….!

  3. Andrew van Schaik ne adam wata in ji a

    Makwabcina babban lauya ne kuma baya yarda da komai.
    Ta ce Thailand ba za ta taba kulla sabuwar yarjejeniya da Netherlands ba, muddin Netherlands ta ci gaba da kallon AOW, bisa ga fensho masu zaman kansu na Thai, a matsayin wata fa'ida ta zamantakewa, wanda ke nufin ana biyan haraji a Netherlands.
    Mutane suna so su ga AOW kamar fensho na kamfani, wanda ba a biya haraji a cikin Netherlands. Bayan haka, ana ba da fensho na jiha a Thailand, in ji ta.
    Ga ma’aikatan gwamnati da suka yi ritaya ya sha banban game da kudaden fanshonsu, in ji ta, yarjejeniyar ta fito karara game da hakan.

    • Erik in ji a

      Andre, to, yarjejeniyar ta yanzu za ta ci gaba da aiki! Idan Thailand tana da adawa da yawa, me yasa Thailand ba ta soke ta? Yarjejeniyar ta shafe shekaru 46 tana gudana….

      Ba zato ba tsammani, Tailandia kuma tana da haƙƙin shigar da haraji akan AOW idan kuma gwargwadon gudummawar da aka bayar ga ƙasar a cikin wannan shekara. Dole ne a ba da ragi a kan sashe na 23 sakin layi na 6.

      • Andrew van Schaik ne adam wata in ji a

        Iya Eric,
        Yarjejeniyar ta yanzu za ta ci gaba da aiki har zuwa yanzu. Babu wanda ke amfana da canji a nan, sai mu da muka ga ana cire harajin mu na AOW wanda ba mu samu komai ba.
        Wannan rashin kunya ne! Matsakaicin ɗalibin Thai shima yana tunani iri ɗaya game da gadonmu da harajin kyauta akan kuɗin da muka riga muka biya haraji. Wannan shine kololuwar!
        Ina kuma ganin bai kamata ku kasance a Heerlen ba, saboda sun tsara nasu sharuɗɗan a waje da yarjejeniyar. Kawai dauki wancan.

        • Erik in ji a

          Andre, bari Thailand yanzu kuma ta san gado da harajin kyauta! Kawai bincika akan google…

    • Lammert de Haan in ji a

      Andre van Schaik, yana da wahala a gare ni in yanke hukunci ko makwabcinku babban lauya ne, amma zan iya yin hukunci ko tana da fahimtar dokar haraji ta duniya da inshorar zamantakewa. Duk da haka, wannan ilimin ya yi karanci.
      Don haka ina ganin zai fi kyau ta yi maganin husuma tsakanin maƙwabta da ma ta yiwu ma ta saki, amma nan da nan ya daina.

      A cewar mai magana da yawun ku, Tailandia ba za ta so kulla sabuwar yarjejeniya da Netherlands ba matukar Netherlands ta dage kan harajin fa'idar tsaron zamantakewa, kamar fa'idar AOW, WAO ko WIA, kuma ba ta son cancanci irin wannan fa'ida kamar fensho mai zaman kansa da za a yi haraji a Thailand .

      Bayanan kula guda uku akan haka:
      1. Amfanin AOW ba fansho ba ne; ya fada karkashin ginshiƙi na 1 na tanadin tsufa, yayin da fansho ya faɗi ƙarƙashin ginshiƙi na 2;
      2. A ka'ida, Tailandia tana da haƙƙin haraji da yawa game da fa'idodin tsaro na zamantakewa kamar Netherlands (abin tausayi cewa babban lauyan ku a fili bai san wannan ba);
      3. Idan Tailandia tana son a shirya wannan ta daban, to yana da mahimmanci a yi shawarwari tare da Netherlands ko kuma a soke yarjejeniyar.

      Kowane jami'in haraji na Thai ya san da kyau cewa fa'idar tsaron zamantakewa daga Netherlands kuma ana biyan haraji a Tailandia kuma yana aiki daidai. Masu karatu masu aminci na Thailandblog yanzu ma sun san cewa dole ne Thailand a lokacin, bisa ga Mataki na ashirin da 23, sakin layi na 6, na yarjejeniyar, ta ba da ragi dangane da harajin da ke cikin Harajin Kuɗi na Mutum akan, misali, ɓangaren fensho na jiha, wanda ke nufin. cewa dokar haraji ta Thai tana da matukar rauni.
      Lokacin da na ci karo da wata magana ta musamman a cikin wannan labarin a watan Maris ɗin da ya gabata, mai ɗauke da wannan ragi, na ba da kulawa sosai a Thailandblog.

      Ba zato ba tsammani, Tailandia yakamata ta ƙidaya kanta cikin sa'a tare da yarjejeniyar da ta kulla da Netherlands don gujewa biyan haraji ninki biyu. Wannan Yarjejeniyar ta yi daidai da Yarjejeniyar Samfuran OECD da bayanin bayanin da ke gaba.
      Tailandia ta kulla wasu yarjejeniyoyin da suka kauce wa wannan yarjejeniya, wanda ke nufin cewa Thailand ba ta da 'yancin biyan haraji ko kadan dangane da wadannan kasashe. Ka yi tunani, alal misali, game da yarjejeniyoyin da Tailandia ta kulla da Belgium da Faransa (don zama kusa da Netherlands) don haka zan iya ƙara lissafi.

      Tailandia ta shirya tsaf don shiga tattaunawa da Netherlands don isa ga sake fasalin yarjejeniyar da ake ciki ko kuma a kulla sabuwar yarjejeniya.
      A 'yan shekarun da suka gabata akwai kuma shirye-shiryen wannan a cikin gwamnatocin Holland da Thailand. Bisa wannan bukata, na shawarci Ma’aikatar Kudi, Hukumar Kula da Harkokin Kasa da Kasa, kan wannan batu.
      Kasancewar ba a fara tattaunawar da gaske ba a lokacin bai ba ni mamaki ba, idan aka yi la'akari da yanayin siyasa (a lokacin) a Tailandia, yayin da a yanzu cutar korona ita ma babbar matsala ce ga fadada kasashen da Netherlands ke tattaunawa da su.

      Ba zato ba tsammani, Tailandia ba za ta taɓa ba da shawarar yin shawarwari don rarraba fensho na tsufa a ƙarƙashin nau'in 'fensho mai zaman kansa' ba, a maimakon haka yana ba da shawarar cewa fa'idodin tsaro ya kamata a ɗauki su azaman haraji a Thailand. Na riga na fuskanci wannan yanayin a cikin 1/3 na yarjejeniyar da Netherlands ta kulla, ko a cikin kasashe 33. Dangane da sabbin yarjejeniyoyin kwanan nan, duk da haka, na bai wa Tailandia kadan ko babu damar samun kyakkyawan sakamako na shawarwari akan wannan batu.

      Mutanen Holland da ke zaune a Tailandia za su iya ƙidaya kansu masu sa'a tare da gaskiyar cewa yarjejeniyar da Tailandia, wacce aka kulla daga 1975, ba a sake farfado da ita ba har yanzu.
      A yayin da aka yi bita ko musanya, za a sake farfado da labarin 27 na yarjejeniyar da ake ciki yanzu (waɗanda aka ba da kuɗi). Wannan tanadin ya iyakance tallafin harajin da Netherlands za ta bayar kamar haka:

      “Mataki na 27. Iyakance na rage haraji

      Idan, bisa ga tanadin wannan Yarjejeniyar, dole ne a ba da rage haraji kan wasu kudaden shiga a cikin ɗayan Jihohin, kuma a ƙarƙashin dokokin wata Jiha ba a biyan mutum haraji dangane da wannan kuɗin gaba ɗaya, amma sai dai gwargwadon yadda aka mayar da irin wannan kudin shiga ko kuma aka samu a waccan Jiha, abin da za a cire da kasar da aka ambata na farko a karkashin wannan Yarjejeniyar zai shafi wani bangare na kudaden shigar da aka aika wa ko karba a wata Jiha. ”

      A sakamakon hukunce-hukuncen Kotun Koli guda biyu a ƙarshen 1979, wannan labarin ya yi asarar ƙarfinsa na doka. Wadannan hukunce-hukuncen sun shafi yarjejeniyar da aka kulla tsakanin Netherlands da Birtaniya a lokacin. Ba da daɗewa ba aka gyara wannan yarjejeniya.
      Duk da haka, Netherlands ta gaza gyara irin wannan yarjejeniya da Thailand. Cewa an gyara wannan, zaku iya ɗaukar guba akan wancan.

      Lammert de Haan, kwararre kan haraji (na musamman a dokar haraji ta ƙasa da ƙasa da inshorar zamantakewa).

      • Andrew van Schaik ne adam wata in ji a

        Gosh na gode Lammert saboda babban bayanin da kuke yi game da ra'ayinku kan wannan batu.
        Ilk zai hada da shi a cikin tattaunawa ta gaba tare da wannan babban lauyan Thai.
        Af, ina tsammanin kuna raina mata ɗan a cikin sakin layi na farko, kamar yadda wani abokin aikinku ya raina ku kwanan nan a wannan shafin. Baka san ta ba ko? Baka san laurel nawa ta girbe ba ko?
        Shin wannan ƙwarewa ce?
        Akwai mutanen Thai da yawa da ke zaune a kusa da ni a nan a cikin wannan mubaan waɗanda ke yin allura a jami'o'in Thai. Bugu da kari, suna zama akai-akai don taron karawa juna sani a Turai ko Amurka, misali.
        Wadannan achans suna ganin abin kunya ne cewa Netherlands na da karfin kai ga biyan haraji. Kamar a nan AOW,
        Zan kuma magance badakalar fa'ida ta kwanan nan a nan.
        Dariya kenan.
        Na sake godewa da cikakken bayanin ku.
        An rufe tattaunawa.

        • Cornelis in ji a

          Wani zai iya zama - a idanunku - 'babban lauya', amma wannan baya nufin cewa tana da zurfin ilimi a kowane fanni na doka. Idan ba ta ƙware a dokar haraji ta ƙasa da ƙasa ba, zan ba da shawarar ilimin Lammert de Haan kaɗan kaɗan mafi girma.
          A cikin rayuwata ta aiki dole ne in taimaka wa 'manyan lauyoyi' da yawa su fara saboda da kyar suke samun hanyarsu a fagen da ba kwarewarsu ba………

        • Erik in ji a

          To, Andre, abin da ka rubuta, 'Waɗannan achans suna ganin abin kunya ne a cikin ƙungiyar cewa Netherlands tana da ƙarfin kai don biyan fa'idodin fensho.'

          Amma Thailand kuma tana da fansho! Ciki har da namu….

          • Andrew van Schaik ne adam wata in ji a

            Da Eric,
            Ba na jin akwai ’yan kasashen waje da yawa da suka yi ritaya da ke zaune a Thailand da ke biyan haraji a kan fanshonsu a Thailand.
            Wadanda na sani duk suna girgiza kai.
            An riga an cire harajin a cikin Netherlands, gami da asusun fansho mai zaman kansa. Wato bayan 1 ga Janairu, 2019. A lokacin ne suka fara kama mu. Ta hanyar cire kuɗin haraji.
            Tare da wasika daga hukumomin haraji na Thai No. 21 Shin, za ku iya warware wannan, in ji su, amma a ina aka ce a cikin alkawari, lalle ne ku da wasiƙar?

            Lokacin da mashawarcin haraji na a Netherlands ya tunkari Heerlen game da wannan, bai ma sami amsa ba.

  4. rudu in ji a

    Mutane suna so su ga AOW kamar fensho na kamfani, wanda ba a biya haraji a cikin Netherlands. Bayan haka, ana ba da fensho na jiha a Thailand, in ji ta.

    Ni a ganina gwamnati ba ta kasuwanci ba ce.
    Ina ganin ba ruwana da inda aka kashe kudin.
    Idan na yi odar wani abu daga Alibaba - wanda ba zai yuwu ba - Ina kashe kuɗina a China.
    Shin kuma zan biya haraji a China?

    Za ta sami ma'ana mafi kyau idan ta bayyana cewa ina zama na dindindin a Tailandia kuma ni "mazauni ne don dalilai na haraji".

  5. Ori in ji a

    Haraji, svb, gwamnatin Hague, an riga an san ni game da Aow uitk. Matsala ce da aka haifar ga ’yan kasa masu aiki tukuru. Matsala ta gaba: idan ba ku zauna a Ned tsawon shekaru ba, ba za ku ƙara samun fensho na jiha ba. Tsohuwar doka ita ce, a cikin watan 65, ana fara biyan fansho na jiha a ranar 1 ga wata. Me ya sa kuma ake amfani da shi shekaru 67 ga 'yan ƙasa, yayin da ba a gina wani abu da shi ba bayan ƙaura daga Ned. Ga waɗannan 'yan ƙasa, dole ne shekarun su kasance kawai shekaru 65.

    • Lammert de Haan in ji a

      Hi Ori,

      Ina ba da cikakken bayanin ku game da karuwar shekarun farawa don fansho na jiha idan aka yi hijira.
      Masu hijira ba za su iya gyara asarar da aka yi a gaba a baya ba, sabanin waɗanda suka ci gaba da zama a Netherlands. Bayan haka, suna ci gaba da kasancewa a cikin inshorar fansho na jiha har zuwa sabuwar shekara ta fensho ta jiha.

      Nan ba da jimawa ba zan buga labarin game da wannan a Thailandblog. Wannan labarin ya yi magana game da yanke shawara mai ban mamaki na Kotun Koli ta Tsakiya ta 2 Satumba XNUMX akan wannan batu.

  6. Eddy in ji a

    Me yasa AOW ke amfanar jama'a ba fansho ba?

    Kun biya kuɗin fansho gaba ɗaya da kanku, idan ya cancanta. tare da mai aiki. AOW tsarin biyan kuɗi ne, wanda ma'aikata na yanzu ke biya a Netherlands. Kuna iya samun fansho na jiha ba tare da kun yi aiki ba.

    Don haka ina ganin cewa gwamnatin NL ta dauki wannan nauyin. A wannan yanayin, akwai wasu nau'ikan samun kudin shiga da NL ke ɗauka waɗanda ke da alama ba su da adalci fiye da AOW, kamar fansho na gwamnati.


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