Wannan shine yadda IND ke tantance menene soyayya

Da Robert V.
An buga a ciki Bayani
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Afrilu 27 2019

Netherlands ta kafa wasu buƙatu don ƙyale abokin tarayya daga wajen EU ya zo Netherlands. Ɗaya daga cikin waɗannan buƙatun shine ma'auratan (ba) sun nuna cewa akwai dangantaka ta gaskiya, ta gaske. Saboda haka Sabis na Shige da Fice (IND) ya nemi a nuna cewa akwai 'dangantaka mai dorewa kuma keɓancewar'. Amma menene ainihin wannan? Zauna kan kujerar IND da kanku.

NOSop3 yanzu yana ba ku damar kunna IND-er da kanku, menene kuke tunani? Kuna iya yin gwajin anan:
/app.nos.nl/op3/echteliefde/

Kamar yadda masu karanta takardar shige da fice 'kawo abokin tarayya Thai zuwa Netherlands' na iya sani, a zahiri ba batun 'yan danna linzamin kwamfuta bane. Misali, IND tana yin tambayoyi da yawa daidai gwargwado, kamar ta yaya da lokacin da mutane suka hadu. Baya ga jerin tambayoyi, IND kuma tana son ganin shaidun daftarin aiki: hotuna tare, tabbacin kasancewa tare a nan ko can, tabbacin tuntuɓar juna. IND har yanzu tana so ta bincika ko ɗan ƙasar waje da mai ɗaukar nauyi sun faɗi gaskiya da kuma ko akwai alaƙa da gaske a maimakon abubuwan da ba su da ban sha'awa (fasarin mutane ko aikin haram, don suna amma kaɗan). Abin farin ciki, ba a yi tambayoyi na kud da kud da kud da kud da kuma ƙaddamar da isassun takardu zuwa tsarin Shiga da zama (TEV) yakan isa. Idan gayyata zuwa hira da IND ta faɗo akan tabarmar, to siginonin sun riga sun yi ja.

IND sannan a fili tana da shakku ko kuma ta sami wasu bangarorin alakar da'awar da ba a saba gani ba. Kamar yadda NOS kuma ta nuna, irin wannan hira sau biyu tare da IND (abokin tarayya yana yin hira lokaci guda a ofishin jakadancin) yana ɗaukar sa'o'i kaɗan. Sannan wasu tambayoyi da yawa suna biyo baya. Da ɗan hankali ka san cewa mutane biyu na al'ada a cikin dangantaka ta ainihi ba su san komai game da juna ba. Sanin kadan shine jan tuta, haka ma kalamai masu karo da juna daga duka biyun. Amma sanin kawai game da komai game da abokin tarayya (ka ce, ranar haihuwar duk 'yan uwa) kuma sabon abu ne, wanda ke nuna maimaita wani nau'in wasa. Wannan duk yana iya nuna kuskuren niyya daga ɓangaren ɗaya ko duka biyun da abin ya shafa.

Ni da kaina ban san wanda ya taba yin irin wannan hirar a lokaci guda ba. Duk da haka, a wasu gidajen yanar gizo (forums) za ku iya karanta abubuwan da ba su da daɗi na mutanen da suka fuskanci wannan. Har zuwa na kammala daga wannan, IND da ofishin jakadancin sun kasance daidai kuma suna da kyau, amma gabaɗayan ƙwarewar har yanzu ba ta da daɗi. Kamar dai kai wani nau'in mai laifi ne tare da tsare-tsare masu banƙyama (daidai abin da IND ke son cirewa kenan). Shin wani daga cikin masu karatu ya taɓa yin ganawar dangantaka? Menene abubuwan da suka faru?

Kuma menene masu karatu suka yi tunani, shin Hassan da Awesi na almara sun yarda su zauna tare a Netherlands ko a'a?

Tushen da sharhi daga NOS duba:
- nos.nl/op3/artikel/2282115-zo-de-determines-de-ind-wat-liefde-is.html
- ind.nl/Formulieren/7125.pdf

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  1. rudu in ji a

    Yin aiki a IND yana da wahala a gare ni.
    Idan ka bar kowa ya shiga, ba kyau, kuma idan ka aika kowa ba shi da kyau.
    Sannan kiyi kima na sirri a wani wuri, wanda zai bambanta ga kowane ma'aikacin IND sannan kowa ya fadi a kan ku, domin tantancewar su ma wani waje ne ba na ma'aikacin IND ba.
    Babban aikin hasashe ne, wanda ake yin kurakurai a bangarorin biyu.

    Wannan baya ga cewa akwai kuma yiyuwar cewa daya daga cikin abokan tarayya yana da imani.
    Misali, namiji yana kan gaba a cikin soyayya kuma mace tana neman fa'ida ne kawai. (Ko akasin haka, don zama daidai a siyasance.)
    A matsayinka na ma'aikacin IND, je ka bayyana hakan ga abokin tarayya cikin soyayya.

    • Kato in ji a

      Abokina yana nan shekaru goma yanzu kuma bai taɓa yin aiki kwana ɗaya ba. Piggybacking akan fansho na jiha. Ba na son komawa ƙasara.
      Me yasa mijina bai wajabta neman aiki ba kamar yadda aka wajabta maka da hakkin samun riba. Ind kuma ba daidai ba ne a cikin wannan. Da zarar an shiga, babu zakara da ke kara.

      • Rob V. in ji a

        Kuskuren IND? Muddin baƙon bai nemi taimakon jama'a ba, IND ba ta yin komai. Me ya sa gwamnati za ta tsoma baki a kan yadda gidaje ke tafiyar da harkokinsu muddin dangin ba su rike hannu ba? Idan duka biyu za ku iya kuma kuna son samun ta tare da samun kudin shiga 1, hakan yayi kyau. Shin kai ko abokin tarayya sun bambanta cewa lokaci yayi don tattaunawa mai kyau. Idan hakan bai taimaka ba, za ka iya bayyana a wasu hanyoyi cewa ba a rarraba kudaden cikin adalci. Kuma idan hakan ma bai kawo yarjejeniya ba, to, zaɓi na ƙarshe shine a kawo ƙarshen dangantakar. Idan baƙon ya kasance a nan na ɗan lokaci kaɗan, shin zai yi tafiya ne, idan ya / ta yi shekaru a can, to abubuwa da yawa za su shiga cikin wasa.

  2. Rudolf in ji a

    Hanyar Jamus tana aiki ba tare da matsaloli da yawa ba. Shin dokokin EU kuma suna da wani abu mai kyau ga talakawa?

    • Rob in ji a

      Hi Rudolf kuna da gogewa a cikin wannan.
      Domin zan iya amfani da wasu shawarwari.

      • Peter in ji a

        Hello Rudolph,

        Ni dan Holland ne kuma na zauna a Jamus tsawon shekaru 9. Na yi aure da dan Thai sama da shekaru 8 kuma muna zaune a nan shekaru 7 yanzu tare da ɗanmu mai shekaru 7.

        Idan kuna son bayani, kuna iya tuntuɓar ni.

        Don a bayyane, ba hanyar da ake kira Jamus ba. Yiwuwa ne a cikin dokokin Turai waɗanda suka shafi kowane Bature. A matsayinsa na Bature da ke zaune a wata kasar Turai daban ba kasarsa ba, yana da ’yancin tafiya a can haka ma matarsa.

        Kwanan nan na ji labarin wani hukunci daga 2017 wanda zai nuna cewa idan abokin tarayya 1 yana da Ƙasar ƙasar da yara ma, za a bar sauran abokin tarayya ya shiga.

        • kaza in ji a

          Don haka idan na fahimta daidai, dole ne ku fara zama a Jamus kuma ku ɗauki ɗan ƙasar Jamus
          sannan ka gayyaci budurwarka/matarka a can?
          yaya game da gwajin haɗin kai da makamantansu
          kuma dole ne ka yi aure bisa doka a Thailand kafin ka kawo abokin tarayya a nan ko kuma hakan bai zama dole ba

          • Rob V. in ji a

            A'a, don hanyar EU (hanyar Jamus, hanyar Belgium, da sauransu) dole ne ku zauna a cikin ƙasar EU ban da ƙasar ku ta EU na tsawon watanni 3+. Dan kasar Holland na iya zama a Jamus don haka ya kawo abokin tarayya a karkashin dokar EU. A wannan yanayin, ba a buƙatar haɗin kai. A takaice, yana nufin cewa a ƙarƙashin dokokin EU suna buƙatar kawai ku a matsayin iyali ku iya ajiye wandonku kuma ba ku da haɗari ga ƙasa.

            Waɗannan ƙa'idodin EU sun kasance iri ɗaya tsawon shekaru, tun lokacin da kawo abokin tarayya na waje zuwa ƙasar ku ɗan biredi ne. Amma ka'idodin ga 'yan ƙasa a cikin ƙasarsu tare da abokin tarayya na waje sun zama masu tsauri da tsauri. Mai tsauri fiye da dokokin EU, wanda ya haifar da yanayi mai ban mamaki cewa a matsayinka na ɗan ƙasa ana nuna maka wariya a cikin ƙasarka idan aka kwatanta da sauran Turawa waɗanda ke zaune a ƙasarka tare da abokin tarayya. Wasu suna kallon hanyar EU a matsayin cin zarafi ko gajeriyar hanya.

            Don ƙarin bayani duba foreignpartner.nl da Mix-couples.nl forums ko tuntuɓi lauya. Misali, Prawo ya kasance kwararre ne a wannan fanni, amma abin takaici wasu lokuta ban dade da ganinsa yana aiki ba. Amma ba shakka akwai kuma wasu lauyoyi idan ba ka so ka fara kanka ta hanyar dandalin tattaunawa tare da littattafai.

            • Ger Korat in ji a

              Gaskiyar cewa a baya wani yanki ne na kek don kawo abokin tarayya zuwa Netherlands ya dogara da abin da kuke magana game da shi, mai yiwuwa kuna magana ne akan shekarun 70. Tuni a cikin shekarun 80, kusan shekaru 40 da suka gabata, an riga an mai da hankali sosai a cikin Netherlands game da auren jin daɗi da karuwanci da tilastawa karuwanci bayan an kawo wata baƙo, musamman daga Thailand. Ni da kaina na fuskanci hanyoyin IND a farkon 90s kuma sun kasance masu tsauri kuma lallai ne ku bayyana komai don ku cancanci barin abokin tarayya ya tafi daga Thailand zuwa Netherlands. Ko da bayan amincewa, an ba ni hira da wani ma'aikacin ofishin jakadancin don tantance ku da kaina da kuma zaman tambaya bayan an riga an ba da biza. Wadanda suka yi mu'amala da hanyoyin IND a daidai wannan lokacin sun san wahalar da tafiyar komai a wancan lokacin. Don haka manta da kwai na gida tun kafin zamanin EU idan ya zo Netherlands. More rashin mutuntaka zan ce ga masu gaskiya. Baya ga cewa a wancan lokacin IND ta yi nauyi da kuma misali, ta ajiye takardun zama a maimakon sarrafa su, ta yadda da yawa sun sake bin tsarin aikace-aikacen, wata shida bayan haka saboda kun yi magana game da tsawon lokacin a cikin XNUMXs.

            • Peter in ji a

              Dan ƙasar Holland na iya zama a kowace ƙasar Turai ban da ƙasar da shi/ita ɗan ƙasa ne. Wannan ba ya shafi Jamus kaɗai ba.

          • Peter in ji a

            Kuna iya zama a kowace ƙasa ta Turai kuma kuna iya zama ɗan ƙasar Holland

        • Peter in ji a

          Hi Peter, Ina so in sani game da hanyar EU, ta yaya zan iya tuntuɓar?

          • Peter in ji a

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  3. rudu in ji a

    Ya zama mai wahala sosai saboda auren jin dadi.
    Ku auri wani kuɗi ga wanda aka ba shi izinin zama da shi, sa'an nan kuma sake sake wani lokaci daga baya, kuma ku auri na gaba.

  4. Thomas in ji a

    Na yi gwajin kuma na amsa duka mara kyau. Yanzu ina mamakin: a matsayina na ƙwararren jami'in IND, shin zan amince da aikace-aikacena daga ƴan shekarun da suka gabata? Wataƙila a'a. Amma duk da haka ni ma na kasance mai gaskiya da gaskiya tare da bukatar. Har yanzu ina yawo tare da ra'ayin da ya dace wanda a fili ban shafi kaina ba. Yana da sauri ya kawar da damar da yawa. A lokaci guda, dole ne ku gwada kuma zaɓi don kawar da zagi. Wani mummunan aiki! Na yi murna ba sai na yi da kaina ba.

    • Rob V. in ji a

      Na amsa mara kyau ne kawai ga tambaya ta 1. Ina tsammanin sauran, ba na tsammanin maki 100%: jijiyoyi, kawai manta abubuwa ko rashin sanin su. Hakanan yana yiwuwa a tuna da kuskure, kawai Google sau nawa maganganun shaida sun bambanta da juna. Tunawa da abubuwa sau da yawa ba daidai ba. Zan yi mamakin idan, bayan sa'o'i 2 na yin tambayoyi, duka abokan tarayya suna da amsoshi iri ɗaya ga komai. Wannan yana haifar da tuhuma a gare ni fiye da musanya 'yar'uwa/yar'uwa.

      Don haka an yarda su zauna tare a Netherlands tare da ni. Amma hakan yayi kyau? Su kansu abokan zaman ba koyaushe suke sani ba, balle IND.

  5. William in ji a

    Na sha zuwa Thailand, musamman Phuket/Patong, ina kuma ziyartar wani abokina da ke zaune a Patong a can, ya zo tare da ni tsawon makonni 10 a bara, na san shi shekaru da yawa. Zan sake zuwa Patong a wannan shekara, don sake ziyartar abokina. Muna son yin aure, ya ɗauki kwas ɗin haɗin kai zuwa Thailand daga Netherlands lokacin yana nan kuma yana koyon Yaren mutanen Holland. Yana so ya zo Netherlands, tare da ni. Zan iya kula da shi sosai ta kudi, yana son barin kyakkyawan aikinsa a Thailand ya zo ya zauna tare da ni ya yi aure a nan. Ni kuma ban san menene dokoki ba, daga nan a cikin Netherlands. An gano cewa Netherlands ta ƙarfafa komai sosai game da ƙa'idodin kawo abokin tarayya. Me kuma zan yi. Abokina, na fahimta, dole ne ya yi jarrabawa a Bangkok don a ba shi izinin shiga cikin Netherlands.

    William L. van Scheijndel

    • Rob V. in ji a

      Dear William, duba fayil ɗin a cikin menu na hagu: 'abokin hijira na Thai'. Bugu da kari, ba shakka, karanta shafin IND da sauransu, amma shafukan gwamnati da bayyanannun harshe a wasu lokutan suna fuskantar kalubale...

  6. Chris daga ƙauyen in ji a

    To, idan kai Yussuf ne daga Siriya ko Lumumba daga Somaliya, za ku iya shiga Netherlands kawai kuma za ku sami kuɗin aljihu, abinci kyauta da rayuwa kyauta! Amma idan ka auri Bahaushiya tsawon shekaru kuma kana da ‘ya’ya biyu da ita, to ‘ya’yan su zo, amma macen ba!
    Wannan yana faruwa da wani wanda na sani kuma abin dariya ne kawai.

    • Rob V. in ji a

      Idan IND ta ga Yusuf a matsayin mai neman mafaka na gaske, hakika zai sami kudi (taimakon zamantakewa, tare da irin wannan kudin shiga ya fi rayuwa fiye da rayuwa). Manufar ita ce, 'yan gudun hijira ba koyaushe suna zuwa nan a shirye da kuɗi ko garantin aiki ba. Rashin samun kashi ba ya sa kowa ya yi gaskiya. An hana masu neman mafaka yin aiki, to me Yusuf ya yi idan IND ta dauki shekara guda tana yanke hukunci? Bara a kan titi? Dole ne ya biya abinci da masauki da kansa, ko kuma ya kasance a cibiyar masu neman mafaka yayin da yake jiran shawarar IND. Idan an ba shi izinin zama a cikin Netherlands, ana iya ba shi fifiko (gaggawa) don gidaje na zamantakewa a yawancin gundumomi. Wasu gundumomi kuma suna ba da firiji da sauransu a matsayin kyauta ko ba ka damar siyan kayan daki da kanka. Bugu da ƙari, ra'ayin shine cewa ɗan gudun hijirar bai sami lokacin shiryawa yadda ya kamata don ƙaura ba kuma yana iya zama dole ya hau jirgi.

      Ga baƙi na yau da kullun kamar ɗan ƙasar Holland tare da abokin tarayya na Thai, ra'ayin shine za su iya ɗaukar lokaci don tsara ƙaura da kyau (ko kuma ɗan Holland na iya zama a Tailandia, amma idan Thailand kuma ta wannan hanyar, kun makale tsakanin. guda biyu). Godiya ga PvdA (Job Cohen), an gabatar da buƙatun ƙaura a ƙarshen ƙarni, ta yadda tashiwa tare da matarka / mijinki ba zaɓi bane. Sannan daga shekara ta 2004 zuwa gaba, VVD tare da PVV a wuyansa ya kara dalla-dalla game da buƙatun kamar gwajin haɗin kai a ofishin jakadancin. Mai tsauri, mai tsauri, mai tsauri, ɗan ƙasa ya faɗi shekaru da yawa. Don haka shi ya sa tsakanin 2004 zuwa yanzu, an ƙara ƙarin takunkumi tare da ƙarin tsada da tsada. Don haka ana maraba da Thai idan har mutanen Holland sun sami isasshen (100% mafi ƙarancin albashi, wanda shine 120% na ɗan lokaci), Thai yana ɗaukar ƙaura zuwa Thailand (jarabawa a ofishin jakadancin), wasu ƙarin buƙatu (nuna alaƙa, da sauransu). .) sa'an nan kuma a cikin Netherlands ta hanyar ci gaba da tsalle ta hanyar wasu tsalle-tsalle (gwajin tarin fuka, haɗin kai, bayanin shiga, da dai sauransu). Dukan takardu masu yawa, suna buƙatar kashe kuɗi da kuɗi da yawa, amma wannan shine a fili iradar mutanen da har yanzu suka yi imanin cewa ƙaura wani ɗan biredi ne. Ni da kaina ina zargin cewa yawancin mutanen Holland ba su da masaniya game da ƙaura da dokokin haɗin kai, amma suna jin cewa kowa ya shigo nan. Duk waɗancan gyale a kan titi da kaya! Ina tsammanin sun manta cewa yawancin su ’ya’yan ma’aikatan baƙi ne da VVD da CDA suka kawo a shekarun 60 da 70.

      Amma watakila hanyar EU zaɓi ce ga abokinka idan ya kasa cika buƙatun Dutch.

      • Peter in ji a

        Yusuf yana zama a cibiyar masu neman mafaka matukar ba shi da matsayi, idan yana da matsayi zai iya rayuwa da kansa kamar yadda na fahimta.

      • Chris daga ƙauyen in ji a

        Wannan matar ta fadi jarrabawar (Rubutun Dutch) a wasu lokuta!
        Wannan mutumin yanzu yana tare da waɗannan yara 2 a Netherlands, dole ne ya sami kuɗi
        da kuma kula da yara.
        Me ya sa ba za ta iya yin wannan jarrabawar a Netherlands ba,
        to shima mijinta zai iya taimaka mata ta koya!
        Amma a, a halin yanzu ya tafi Spain tare da waɗannan yaran
        kuma an bar matar ta tafi can .
        Wannan, duk da haka, bai yi nasara ba.
        Kuma Yusuf zai iya komawa Siriya.
        saboda a can aka kawo karshen yakin amma zai koma?

    • Rob V. in ji a

      Af, masoyi Chris, Yusuf a cikin wannan misalin NOS ya faɗi ƙarƙashin ƙa'idodin ƙaura na yau da kullun. Dole ne ya cika buƙatu iri ɗaya da wanda kuka sani. Kun kyale Awesinsa?

    • Peter in ji a

      Kawai neman hukunci daga 2017, lokacin da abokin tarayya ɗaya yana da ɗan ƙasar Holland da yara kuma, to, abokin tarayya zai iya shiga Netherlands ba tare da wata matsala ba.

  7. Peter in ji a

    Kawai neman hukunci daga 2017, lokacin da abokin tarayya ɗaya yana da ɗan ƙasar Holland da yara kuma, to, ya kamata a bar sauran abokin tarayya su shiga Netherlands ba tare da wata matsala ba.

  8. Peter in ji a

    Domin ya zama samfurin kudaden shiga. Kawai lissafta komai daga koyan NL zuwa tsayawa.
    Da zarar an shiga, gidauniyar DUO tana ba da ƙarin horo. Idan har yanzu ba ta jin yaren Dutch bayan shekaru 5, kuna iya tsammanin tarar € 5000.
    Abin da ke damun ni shi ne cewa akwai mutane marasa iyaka tare da harsuna masu ban mamaki suna yawo a nan, ana dawo da adadi na Isis, da kuma irin wannan nau'in banza na hukuma.
    Kuma dole ne su/ni cika dukkan sharudda.
    Ba mai sauƙi ba ne…


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