Dr. Erwin Kompanje (masanin ilimin likitanci a Erasmus MC Rotterdam) ya rubuta wani shafi na gaskiya akan shafin sa na sirri. "Mutuwar da ake tsammani a tsufa ko mutuwar corona?" shine taken kuma a ciki ya sanya mace-mace ta Covid 19 cikin hangen nesa, amma sama da duka ya jaddada bala'in jin kai da ke faruwa saboda matakan da aka ɗauka.

Rubutun ya sa furodusan TV Flavio Pasquino ya ziyarce shi ya yi hira da shi. Ya dauko Erwin a garinsu Barendrecht ya kai shi wurin da ya fi so, Europoort. Wani baƙar fata mai goyan bayan mulkin mallaka na gull a nan. Wurin yana haifar da sabon gull amma kuma shine wurin hutawa na ƙarshe don yawancin masu rauni.

An yi fim ɗin ginshiƙi a cikin tsarin "Kalmar Magana", bayan gyara rubutun gidan yanar gizo na farko (www.kompanje.org) kuma ya samar da ma'anar falsafa don hangen nesa mai fa'ida wanda ke kallon ƙarancin ICU da ƙarancin mace-mace na ɗan lokaci. Da fatan za a sami karin muryoyi masu mahimmanci daga wannan matakin na hankali.

Bidiyo: 'Manufar Corona ba ta da kyau'

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https://youtu.be/rlnfnsFz6c8

57 Responses to "'Manufar Corona ba ta da mutunci', in ji Masanin ilimin kimiyya Dr. Erwin Kompanje (bidiyo)”

  1. Wim in ji a

    Wannan ya shafi Netherlands. Ban sani ba ko kalmar 'corona policy' ta yi daidai. Ga alama daidai ne a gare ni cewa babu wata manufa kwata-kwata, amma daga wani nau'in firgita, masana kimiyyar virologist, RIVM da sauransu ba zato ba tsammani gwamnati ta bi su a makance. Yanzu da ba su kara sani ba, da alama ba zai yiwu ’yan siyasa su dawo da al’amura yadda ya kamata ba ta ‘yan tsirarun matakai. Ana ba da sanarwar ƙananan matakai sosai ta hanyar ƙwararrun makaranta, De Jonge yayi magana game da 'apps' da 'dashboards' kuma a halin yanzu rashin aikin yi yana ƙaruwa kuma haɓakar tattalin arziki yana raguwa. Ba na ganin wasu manufofi. Firgita kawai da rashin iya aiwatarwa.

    • Lilian in ji a

      Ee, abin mamaki ne a cikin wannan Netherlands. A wasu ƙasashe rayuwa ta ci gaba kamar yadda aka saba

      • Rob V. in ji a

        Ina tsammanin wannan shine zagi Lilian? Yin la'akari da ƙasashe da yawa daga Netherlands, zuwa Thailand da Amurka zuwa China inda aka ɗauki kowane nau'in matakan (kullewa, ƙuntatawa tafiye-tafiye, nisantar da jama'a, mutanen da suka rasa ayyukansu da sauransu). Kuna iya kiran duk waɗannan matakan kwatsam 'firgita fidda kai' ko rashin isassun shirye-shirye (yayin da aka yi gargaɗi game da annoba na shekaru). A zahiri, ƙananan ƙasashe suna da ingantaccen yanayin da aka shirya ko kuma idan ba a kashe kuɗi da yawa ba (tunanin Amurka inda aka yanke wasu shirye-shirye tun kafin barkewar Corona).

        https://apnews.com/ce014d94b64e98b7203b873e56f80e9a

    • Maarten Binder in ji a

      Halayen gwamnati ba daidai ba ne kamar halin kwayar cuta. Kusan za ku yi tunanin cewa gwamnati kwayar cuta ce.

  2. Rob V. in ji a

    Quote 1: “Jaridu sun bayyana cewa 9 cikin 10 sun haura shekaru 65, alkaluman CBS sun fi nuna tsofaffi masu shekaru 80 ko sama da haka (..) tsofaffi a matakin ƙarshe na rayuwarsu (..) mutane a matakin ƙarshe na rayuwarsu. wanda su ba tare da shiga ba”.

    Har yaushe tsofaffi suke rayuwa? Matsakaicin tsawon rayuwar mutane a cikin kaka na rayuwarsu:
    65: 20,3 shekaru (namiji 19, mace 21,5)
    70:16,3 shekaru (namiji 15,1 , mace 17,3)
    80: 9,2 shekaru (namiji 8,4, mace 9,9)
    90: 4,2 shekaru (namiji 3,8, mace 4,4)

    Source:
    https://www.staatvenz.nl/kerncijfers/levensverwachting

    Tabbas za mu iya zaɓar yin kaɗan, to, za a sami 2,5 zuwa 3x kamar yadda yawancin mutuwar ke tsakanin tsofaffi (Duba Sweden idan aka kwatanta da ƙasashe makwabta). Idan muka zaɓi cewa a matsayin tsoho mai shekaru 10-20 kawai don rayuwa, zai fi kyau mu yi ritaya a baya. Idan muka kammala tare cewa abin karɓa ne, lafiya. Amma yana da kyau a ba da hoton cewa mutanen da ke mutuwa daga kwayar cutar sun kusan fuskantar mutuwa.

    Magana ta 2:
    "Shin akwai bambanci tsakanin corona da mura?"
    Amsar ita ce eh, akwai bambance-bambance (da kamanceceniya). Bambanci shine, alal misali, lalacewar da ke faruwa a wani wuri a cikin jiki, kamar cututtuka ta hanyar jini.

    https://m.nieuwsblad.be/cnt/dmf20200424_04933526

    Haka ne, hakika yana da mahimmanci a auna kowane nau'i nau'i: tsawon rayuwa da ingancin rayuwar ƙungiyoyin haɗari da daidaikun mutane, tattalin arziki, zamantakewa (mu'amalar zamantakewa) da sauransu. Wannan yana da wahala, kuma cinikin zai iya karkata zuwa wata hanya dabam a kowane lokaci game da abin da ke daidai (ko kuma, menene mafi ƙarancin cutarwa gabaɗaya, abin da ke yarda da waɗanda ke da hannu). Na sami duka duka firgita tare da matakan dindindin masu nauyi ba su da wani alhaki, amma kuma na watsar da duk wannan a matsayin 'wani nau'in mura ne kawai, mutuwa wani ɓangare ne na ta, kuma galibi wasu tsofaffi ne ke mutuwa kaɗan da wuri'.

    • Dalilinka ba daidai bane Rob. Ba ku la'akari da asarar shekarun rayuwar masu gujewa kulawa da jinkirin ayyuka saboda corona.

      Dubban daruruwan asarar rayuwa shekaru:
      Ba a dai san adadin wadanda suka mutu sakamakon rashin kula da lafiyarsu ba a watannin baya-bayan nan. Ya shafi shekaru 100.000 zuwa 400.000 da aka rasa, in ji hukumar bincike Gupta a cikin wani rahoto a wannan makon. Fiye da shekaru 13.000 zuwa 21.000 masu lafiya da aka ceto ta hanyar kula da marasa lafiya.
      https://gupta-strategists.nl/studies/het-koekoeksjong-dat-covid-heet

      Kulawar asibiti na masu cutar COVID ya ceci kimanin shekaru 13 zuwa 21 cikin koshin lafiya (QALYs) a cikin Netherlands. Wannan ya fito fili daga rahoton 'COVID go cuckoo' na Gupta Strategists. Yawan shekarun rayuwar lafiya da aka samu kadan ne dangane da farashin: an yi hasarar kimanin shekaru 100 zuwa 400 cikin koshin lafiya saboda sokewa da jinkirta kulawar yau da kullun, kamar kula da masu fama da cutar kansa, ciwon zuciya, ciwon sukari ko na hanji. cututtuka. Matsalolin kuɗi kuma ba su da ƙima: farashin kulawar COVID a kowace shekara na rayuwar lafiya ya kasance Yuro 100 zuwa 250. Wannan ya kai kashi uku sama da abin da aka yarda da shi gaba daya.

      • Wannan ya sake nuna cewa babu wata manufa daga gwamnatinmu, sai dai firgita da kwallon kafa. Bugu da kari, kafofin watsa labarai sun mai da hankali ga kyamarorin a kan masu fama da cutar, kuma, ba shakka, Rutte ba ya son hotuna a talabijin tare da masu cutar korona a cikin asibitocin da suka cika cunkoso. Gaskiyar cewa mutane daga baya sun mutu a gida saboda ba su samun kulawa na yau da kullum ba kome ba ga Rutte, saboda babu kyamarori a can.

        • Johnny B.G in ji a

          Wataƙila yanzu za a fara tattaunawa game da ko yana da kyau a kula da marasa lafiya har zuwa ƙarshen rana.
          Magani yana da kyau, amma da zaran an saita darajar a kan shi, za a iya yin zabi kuma na tabbata cewa ba za a gudanar da wannan tattaunawa a Netherlands na dogon lokaci ba.
          A Tailandia yana da ɗan ƙara haske game da wannan. Ka fitar da komai daga rayuwa har sai kun kai 70 kuma sauran suna jira ne kawai don ganin ko har yanzu yana da ma'ana kuma na ƙarshe ya dogara da yadda alaƙar dangi take.

          • Rob V. in ji a

            A cikin Netherlands, a kai a kai muna koyon tsawon lokacin da magani ya dace. Google Amma kuma kun ci karo da guda a cikin jaridu da tashoshin TV daga 2012, 2016, 2018 da sauransu. Ya zama tattaunawa mai wahala, yayin da Netherlands ta riga ta wuce fiye da ɗaukar Jamus:

            "Jamus kuma suna da al'adun kulawa daban-daban fiye da ƙasarmu. Ci gaba da jiyya zuwa ƙusa na ƙarshe ya fi kowa fiye da na Netherlands, inda tattaunawa game da yadda mai haƙuri ke son tafiya ya fi dacewa. ”

            - https://www.ad.nl/binnenland/duitse-ic-baas-nederland-moet-voor-veel-meer-ic-bedden-zorgen~aca7ea29
            - https://nos.nl/nieuwsuur/artikel/2263187-de-laatste-levensfase-goed-sterven-is-ook-belangrijk.html

            A Tailandia, a gefe guda, suna fuskantar matsalar / gaskiyar cewa da zarar wani ba zai iya ziyartar mai ba da lafiya da kansa ba, samun damar samun lafiya yana raguwa cikin sauri:

            "A shekaru 55-65, yawancin mutane suna iya tafiya da kansu zuwa wuraren kiwon lafiya. Amma, yayin da suke girma, sun zama masu rauni kuma suna fara samun yanayin kiwon lafiya da ke hana su tafiya zuwa wuraren kiwon lafiya da kansu. Da zarar tsofaffi sun dogara kuma suna buƙatar wasu don kawo su wuraren kiwon lafiya, yawan amfani da sabis a wuraren kiwon lafiya gabaɗaya ya ragu. Wannan yanayin ya fi karfi a tsakanin tsofaffi marasa galihu, musamman wadanda ke yankunan karkara da wadanda ba sa rayuwa tare da ’ya’yansu manya,” 

            Source:
            https://www.worldbank.org/en/news/press-release/2016/04/08/aging-in-thailand—addressing-unmet-health-needs-of-the-elderly-poor

            Tabbas hakan a bayyane yake, amma shin ana son mutane su mutu saboda ba su da ko kuma rashin isashen asibiti?

            • HarryN in ji a

              Lallai Ronald da MSM yana da cikakkiyar ma'aikata ta gwamnati kuma saboda haka ba abin dogaro bane. Misali, kwanan nan akwai wata kasida a cikin AD; Corona ta kara afkawa gonakin dabbobi masu yawa!!! Har yanzu ba a fara gudanar da bincike kan wannan ba, amma AD ta riga ta fito da wannan "babban" labari. Tabbas bamu taba jin wani abu game da shi ba.

          • Johnny B.G in ji a

            A cikin ƙasashe da yawa ba al'ada ba ne kuma watakila Netherlands ma ya kamata ta kawar da ita.

            • Tino Kuis in ji a

              Yi hakuri da wancan Nazi da Stalin, Johnny BG. Na yi fushi. Bai kamata al'umma su ce ta ce a kan wane ne ake samun kulawa da wanda ba ya samu. Wato tsakanin likita da mara lafiya.

        • Tino Kuis in ji a

          Ku zo, Peter, ta hanyar kawo Rutte da kyamarori kuna siyasa kuma kuna rikitar da ingantaccen tattaunawa. Ba mu isa ko'ina tare da 'suna yin komai ba daidai ba kuma na san komai mafi kyau'. Babu wanda zai iya hango cewa kulawa ta yau da kullun zai ragu da kashi 30-50%. Don gyara hakan alhakin likitoci ne da asibitoci.

          • Tabbas yana da alaƙa da zaɓin siyasa, wanda shine dalilin da ya sa dole ne ku shiga siyasa. Rutte da kansa ya ce shi ke da alhakin, RIVM ma ya ce. An riga an sami manyan jerin jirage masu yawa a cikin kiwon lafiya wanda ake magana game da tafki na marasa lafiya.

            Ernst Kuipers, shugaban hukumar Erasmus MC, ya ce sun yi kuskure. Har ila yau, ya yarda da ainihin rahoton Gupta: "Cewa adadin shekarun rayuwa masu lafiya da aka rasa ya kasance aƙalla girman daidai da adadin da aka ajiye, tare da yuwuwar yawan shekarun da aka rasa ya fi girma, na yarda. da kyau."

            Ya yi nuni da bayanan da aka samu daga Hukumar Kula da Ciwon Sankara, wanda ke nuna cewa adadin masu cutar kansar da aka gano ya kai kusan 3500 a kowane mako. A cikin watanni biyu da suka gabata, akwai 1700 kawai a kowane mako. "Don haka an rage rabin hakan, kuma a iya sanina covid ba maganin cutar kansa ba ce."

            https://nos.nl/nieuwsuur/artikel/2334774-bij-een-volgende-piek-moet-aanpak-anders-wijs-corona-ziekenhuizen-aan.html

          • Maarten Binder in ji a

            Tino, kai ne ka fara shingen Jamus na Nazi da Stalin Rasha?
            Wannan ba ze zama kamar siyasa ba, ko kuma mafi muni, gabaɗayan tallan da ba a sanya shi ba?
            Idan kun rufe duka sassan saboda Covid, a cikin Spain har ma an hana shigar da marasa lafiya ban da Covid, to bai kamata ku yi mamaki ba idan kulawa ta yau da kullun ta ragu.
            Don haka rashin gudanar da mulki tun farko kuma aka gargade mutane.

            • Johnny B.G in ji a

              Ta yaya mutum zai yi mafi kyau tare da rashin ilimin yau?
              Na ga ya fi hauka abin da ke faruwa a yanzu. Kasar Netherlands ta makale a cikin al'umma na mita daya da rabi kuma a Thailand rayuwa ta yau da kullun tana dawowa kan hanya tare da abin rufe fuska.
              Shin Netherlands ta firgita kamar makaho ko kuma Thailand ta bar abin ya faru don sa mafi rauni ya rasa nauyi? A cikin da'ira na, wannan ba za a iya cirewa daga abin da za a iya tambayar tambayar ko siyasar Holland tana amfani da ita ko kuma cin zarafin wannan rikici.

              • Rob V. in ji a

                A Tailandia, matakan sun fi na Netherlands: dokar ta-baci tana aiki bisa hukuma a can, matakan nisantar da jama'a (tsayawa tazarar mita 2, abin rufe fuska a bas da jirgin ƙasa na tilas ne da wasu larduna, amma kuma ya zama dole ga abokan ciniki. ta kamfanoni da yawa). Cibiyoyin siyayya inda aka ba ku izinin shiga kawai idan kun bar alamun dijital (shiga tare da app/QR code). Yanzu Thailand tana cikin mataki na 2 na dainawa, wuraren da ke da haɗari kamar kulake da gidajen namun daji ba a yarda su buɗe ba tukuna. Da sauransu.

                Idan kiyaye mita daya da rabi a cikin Netherlands kurkuku ne, menene hakan ya sa Thailand? Sansanin hukunci? Ko kuma idan yanayin Thai ya dawo al'ada', yayin da yake ɗan kwanciyar hankali a cikin Netherlands, to fiye da na al'ada a Netherlands?

                Ko kuma duka Thailand da Netherlands ne bayan tsauraran matakan (wani lokaci ad-hoc, wani lokacin watakila tsayi da yawa ko kuma tare da shawarwari daga ƙwararrun ƙwararru daga sassa daban-daban) matakan, duka biyun suna ƙauracewa mataki-mataki don komawa al'ada. Watakila yayi jinkiri, watakila da sauri, zamu iya magana game da hakan. Ina ji haka. Amma don nuna Tailandia da Netherlands a matsayin wani nau'in kishiyar? A'a, bana jin hakan yayi daidai.

                https://www.khaosodenglish.com/news/crimecourtscalamity/2020/05/23/govt-3rd-phase-of-lockdown-relaxation-takes-effect-on-june-1/

                https://www.khaosodenglish.com/politics/2020/05/22/emergency-decree-extended-no-new-virus-case-reported/

                https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand/general/1891290/70-thais-stick-to-social-distancing

                • Johnny B.G in ji a

                  An faɗi da kyau amma ba haka ake yawan yi ba. Amsa daga polder baya nufin cewa daidai ne.

                • Rob V. in ji a

                  Kuna son hujja Johnny? Maimaita haka daga ƙarƙashin itacen kwakwa ba yana nufin daidai ba ne. 😉 Na ba da wasu tabbatattu da tushe. Ina so in ji daga wane ne Netherlands ta fi tsanani ko kuma ta firgita fiye da yadda ake fitowa daga kafofin watsa labaru daban-daban ko kuma daga abin da ya bayyana cewa Khaosod, Bangkok Post, da dai sauransu. kana so) zana hoton da ba daidai ba ko bai cika ba.

                • Ger Korat in ji a

                  Wani muhimmin batu cewa Netherlands ta fi Thailand tsauri. Ban taba karantawa a ko'ina ba cewa tsofaffi a Thailand suna kulle, ware da kuma hana su hulɗa da dangi da dangi. A cikin Netherlands, an yanke shawara game da tsofaffi da marasa lafiya a bayan wannan rukunin, ba tare da izini ko izinin tsofaffi da / ko iyali ba. Kamar yadda Dr. Erwin Kompanje: mafi muni fiye da kurkuku.
                  Kuma batu na biyu shine al'ummar mita 2. Gwamnatin Holland na son zama mafi kyawun yaro kuma, alal misali, tarar mutanen da suke zaune tare a gida amma ba su da dangantaka, misali a gidan dalibai, idan sun fita waje tare. Ko kuma ka ɗauki abokinka tare da kai a cikin mota: abin da ba daidai ba saboda babu nisan mita 1,5. Don haka kuna iya tsammanin wasu karin maganar banza a cikin Netherlands, yayin da Thais sun ɗan sami sassauci tare da shi.

                  Abin da nake tunani game da ka'idar mita 1,5: ya ba da labari a cikin Volkskrant a rana ɗaya ko 2 a cikin wannan shafin yanar gizon wanda ya ce kowane hulɗar waje yana da kusan haɗarin kamuwa da cuta (kamar 1 kamuwa da cuta a kan fiye da 7324 masu kamuwa da cuta a cikin birnin. Wuhan wanda aka bincika ya samo asali ne daga sararin samaniya). Dukkan abin da ya kai mita 1,5 ya fito ne daga kasar Sin, wanda a baya ya ce kwayar cutar tana yaduwa a cikin iska har zuwa wani karamin nesa. Yanzu haka masu binciken na kasar Sin sun fito da wani binciken da ba a taba ganin irinsa ba, don haka daukacin al'ummar kasar mita 1,5 ba ta dogara da gaskiya ba. Kuma za ku iya dogaro da cewa yanzu Sinawa sun yi taka-tsan-tsan wajen wallafawa saboda abin kunyar da ke tattare da cutar korona, amma duk da haka sun fito da wannan bincike da sakamakon. Idan na ce: nan da nan da dukan 1,5 mita mulki a sararin sama, a kan titi, a wuraren shakatawa, rairayin bakin teku masu. filayen waje da ƙarin ɗagawa.
                  duba mahadar: https://www.volkskrant.nl/wetenschap/onderzoek-nauwelijks-kans-op-besmetting-in-buitenlucht~b28c006b/

                • Johnny B.G in ji a

                  Da ace na kasance karkashin bishiyar kwakwa don bayyana ra'ayi na hhh
                  Yayin da nake ganin lamarin da idona kuma hakan tabbataccen tushe ne, yana da mutuƙar mutuntaka a Bangkok duk da dokar ta-baci.
                  Babu wanda ya tunkare ni a cikin jama'a tare da tambayoyi na sirri game da ko danginmu ko a'a.
                  Ba lallai ba ne a yi tafiya a cikin motocin jama'a a NL.

            • Tino Kuis in ji a

              Eh nine. Ina ganin bai kamata al’umma su yanke shawarar wanda ya kamata mu ko kuma ba za a kula da mu ‘har zuwa karshe’ ba. Wato tsakanin likita da mara lafiya. Wannan ya shafi kowace damuwa.

              Ban karanta ko'ina ba cewa an hana a Spain ga marasa lafiya da ba su da COVID-19. Kuna da tushen hakan?

              Kamar yadda na sani, a cikin Netherlands za ku iya kawai tura kowane majiyyaci mai tsanani.

              Gaskiyar cewa kulawa na yau da kullum ya ragu yana da matukar damuwa. Bai kamata hakan ya kasance ba kuma bai kamata ya zama dole akan wannan sikelin ba. Ya kamata likitocin su yi zanga-zangar da babbar murya.
              . . '

              • Ina da ra'ayin cewa kun fi jin kunya game da zanga-zangar likitoci?

                Tino: 'A cikin 'yan makonnin nan, lokacin da aikinsu ya ragu da fiye da kashi 50 cikin 50, likitoci sun yi nazari sosai a kan komai.' Wadannan likitocin biyu sun yi asarar kashi XNUMX% na kudaden shiga a cikin watanni biyu da suka gabata! Tabbas suna son komawa lokutan al'ada! (Corona gobara)

              • Chris in ji a

                dear tina,
                Ina ganin ya kamata a bar al'umma gaba daya ta shiga harkar kiwon lafiya. Gwamnati da kamfanonin inshora suna da mahimmanci 'yan wasa har ma masu yanke shawara. Likita da majiyyaci na iya so gwargwadon abin da suke so, amma idan inshora bai biya ba, ba zai faru ba.
                Mahaifiyata ta daina karbar wasu magungunan da ke aiki da kyau saboda suna da tsada sosai, a cewar GP. YANZU ta samu gamayya. Wanene ya yanke shawarar haka?
                Matsalolin da'a kuma suna tasowa. Ya kamata al'umma su ci gaba da biyan kuɗin jiyya na IVF masu tsada? Shin mutanen da ba za su iya haihuwa ba suna rashin lafiya da gaske? Kuma babu wasu 'masu arha' irin su riƙo. Haka ma aikin filastik.

                • Tino Kuis in ji a

                  Kuna da gaskiya, Chris. Al'umma kuma tana ƙayyade iyakokin kulawa, wanda ya biya menene kuma nawa. Abin da aka yarda da abin da ba a yarda ba. Na yi tsauri sosai. A koyaushe za a yi tattaunawa game da wannan, misali game da biyan kuɗin maganin hana haihuwa.
                  Amma a cikin waɗancan iyakokin, dole ne likitoci da marasa lafiya su yanke shawara tare yadda za su yi aiki.

              • Maarten Binder in ji a

                Tino, an gafarta maka. Likitoci da yawa sun fusata sosai saboda ɓacin rai da ɓacin rai na waɗanda ake kira masana. Bugu da ƙari, ana yi wa likitoci barazana kawai idan suna da ra'ayi daban-daban, misali ta hanyar rashin sabunta kwangila tare da ma'aikatan kiwon lafiya da aka ƙi.
                An yi sa'a, likitoci da yawa sun fara zanga-zangar. Ba a da ba, saboda yawancinsu sun yi imani da WHO da mabiyanta masu aiki, irin su RIVM da yawancin likitocin ƙwayoyin cuta masu cika aljihu.

                Majiya ta daga Spain wani asibiti ne a Benidorm inda nake cikin kwamitin da'a na binciken cutar kansa. Ina ba su shawara kowane lokaci.

        • Rob V. in ji a

          Shin suma ba hauka bane a Hague? A yawancin kafofin watsa labaru mun karanta game da sakamakon jinkirin jinkiri, likitocin da ke damuwa. Jaridu da Talabijin sun yi ta ba da haske ga hakan sau da yawa tun daga ƙarshen Maris. Kafofin watsa labaru sun kuma ba da rahoton yadda ICUs ke cika da barazanar, yadda za su ƙara ƙarfin aiki, canja wurin marasa lafiyar IC zuwa wasu asibitoci (har zuwa Jamus). Mummunan barazanar gadaje kaɗan a cikin ICU a bayyane yake, ko ba haka ba? Sannan ku ɗauki matakan ad hoc. Yawancin masu karatun shafukan yanar gizo na Thailand sun yaba aikin ad hoc a matsayin yanke shawara (na Thai ko Yaren mutanen Holland).

          Matsalar, ba shakka, ita ce yadda za a koma ga al'ada. Da sauri sannan ku kashe kan ku na siyasa (Rutte wanda ya raina kwayar cutar), a hankali (Rutte wanda ya bar mara lafiyar da ba corona ba ya nutse har ya mutu).
          Ina tsammanin Rutte ba mahaukaci ba ne, ya san daidai da cewa idan kun yi sannu a hankali (kisa saboda kaucewa kulawa), jaridu da hotunan kafofin watsa labaru za su bayyana na mutanen da suka mutu ba dole ba tare da wahala mai yawa da wasan kwaikwayo. Waɗancan kyamarori sun kasance a can a baya inda samun damar kulawa ya ragu, amma kyamarori suna dawowa.

          Na ji dadi ba na kan mulki domin duk yadda za ka yi, sojojin Captains sun ce ba ka yi daidai ba ko ma kana da mugun nufi na sakandare. Har yanzu ban tabbatar da yadda Netherlands ko Thailand suka gabatar da kyau ba. Ina so in ji duk bayanan cikin natsuwa, amma wannan kayan alatu ne da kyaftin din jirgin ba zai iya ba.

          - https://www.trouw.nl/zorg/patienten-mijden-zorg-ook-bij-ernstige-klachten~bfc7852d/
          - https://www.volkskrant.nl/nieuws-achtergrond/afgezegde-zorg-dreigt-meer-levens-te-kosten-dan-corona~b64d16ef/

      • Tino Kuis in ji a

        Na karanta binciken da ya dace (gupta-strategists). Ba na tsammanin cewa dakatarwar da aka yi na kulawa ta yau da kullun ta kashe 100.000 zuwa 400.000 na tsawon shekaru masu lafiya. Zato da yawa. Suna kiran shi kimantawa. Duk da haka, ba shakka abin bakin ciki ne.

        Wannan dakatarwar tana da dalilai guda biyu. Marasa lafiya suna jinkirta duban su da/ko jiyya da kansu ko likitoci suna yin hakan. Zan iya ɗan yi tunanin cewa marasa lafiya suna yin haka, amma ban fahimci dalilin da ya sa likitoci suka yi haka ba. Ina zargin su.

        • Zo Tino kun san abin da ke faruwa. An hana su yi wa marasa lafiya magani. Babu ƙarfin ICU, ba don kulawa da aka tsara ba. An kebe don masu cutar covid-19. Likitoci sun koka da dutse da kashi cewa an kula da Corona kawai. Haka kuma Likitan nawa ya yi korafin cewa ba a ba ta damar tura wa kowa wani dan lokaci ba (sai dai in ba ta da rai).

          • willem in ji a

            Wannan ba gaskiya bane gaba ɗaya. Kwararrun zuciya kawai sun ga 1/3 na adadin marasa lafiya na yau da kullun akan lura da zuciya. Ba don ba a marabce su ba, amma don kawai ba su kai rahoto asibiti ba. Labarin yana da abokan ciniki da yawa.

          • Tino Kuis in ji a

            Duk marasa lafiya da suke buƙatar kulawa an yi musu magani, masoyi Peter. An taimaka duk wasu lokuta masu tsanani, ciki har da waɗanda ke buƙatar ƙarin magani a cikin ICU. Ba a kebe ICU don covid kadai ba, wannan ba gaskiya bane..

            Kuma a, an jinkirta kulawar da aka tsara inda zai yiwu. Hakan ma, yana iya haifar da mummunan sakamako. Bugu da ƙari, zaɓin da ya kamata a yi suna da gaske, da wuyar gaske. Kowane zaɓi yana da fa'ida da rashin amfani. Kawai auna hakan.

            • Ma'anar m na iya ba shakka za a iya miƙewa kaɗan. An dage yin tiyatar masu fama da cutar daji, inda aka gaya wa majiyyacin cewa tsawon rayuwarsa ya ragu da kadan. A'a, ba sosai ba. Kuna iya mutuwa da wuri kadan. Za ku yi haƙuri haka….

    • rudu in ji a

      Kwatanta Corona da sauran cututtuka.
      A cikin Netherlands, shekaru miliyan 2018 sun rasa rayukansu sakamakon mutuwa da wuri a cikin 1,8.

      https://www.volksgezondheidenzorg.info/ranglijst/ranglijst-aandoeningen-op-basis-van-verloren-levensjaren

      Idan aka kwatanta da wannan, adadin mutuwar Corona ba komai bane.

      Lambobi zalla, ba shakka.
      Ga dangi na gaba, ba shakka, ya bambanta.

      Idan da za a gwada wani abu game da cutar kansar huhu da kyau, zai ceci shekaru da yawa na rayuwa fiye da duk kuɗin da aka kashe akan Corona.

    • Lilian in ji a

      A cikin Netherlands, mutanen da suka haura shekaru 80 da wuya su taɓa shiga cikin ICU.
      Yawancin suna mutuwa a gidan jinya.
      Wannan ya bambanta da na kewaye da kasashen kudu.

      Yana da ban mamaki nawa 'likitoci' akwai kwatsam waɗanda suke yin komai
      sanin cututtuka, ƙwayoyin cuta, da sauransu. Sanin-shi-duk, ba a kira wannan ba?

  3. Rob in ji a

    Na yarda da wannan likitan kwata-kwata.

  4. Kirista in ji a

    Na kuma yarda da Dr. Kompanje, Rob.
    Muna bukatar mu canza tunaninmu, hakan yana ɗaukar ɗan lokaci kaɗan. Wani lokaci kulawar likita a cikin Netherlands ma rashin mutuntaka ne a lokuta ban da corona.

  5. Renee Martin in ji a

    Corona sabuwar cuta ce kuma babu wanda ya san menene mafi kyawun magani da kuma yadda zai yaɗu. Da alama ba a sami isashen iyawa don kula da mutanen da ke fama da rashin lafiya ba, don haka dole ne a yi zaɓi. Da fatan za mu iya koyan darussa daga watannin da suka gabata kuma da alama za mu kashe ƙarin kuɗi idan muna so mu taimaki kowa.

  6. John in ji a

    Babban hira. Ina tsammanin wannan mutumin ya kwatanta da kyau kuma ya tabbatar da abin da yawancin mu ke tunani da ji. Mu yi fatan ba za mu sami adadin wadanda suka mutu ba sakamakon koma bayan tattalin arziki da tunani.

  7. Chris in ji a

    Mahaifiyata (93) tana zaune a gidan kula da tsofaffi a Eindhoven. LOKACIN zamantakewa na rana shine abincin dare tare da sauran mazauna. An dakatar da hakan tsawon makonni yanzu saboda Covid-19. Yanzu tana iya zuwa ta dauko abinci a gidanta. A hanyar zuwa et restauarnat da dawowa, ta ga wasu 'yan uwanta, amma dole ne ta nisa kuma kowa ya tsorata. Hakanan an haramta ziyarar yara da jikoki.
    'Yar uwata tana da makullin kofar gefe inda babu 'security'. Takan ziyarci mahaifiyata don kofi da ƴan kayan abinci (galibi don karin kumallo da 'ya'yan itace) sau kaɗan a mako. Mahaifiyata tana murna kawai.
    Na tabbata cewa idan ka tambayi mahaifiyata ko tana son ta sake rayuwa shekaru 5 a ƙarƙashin mulkin Covid ko shekaru 2 ko 3 tare da duk 'yancin kai kafin rikicin, ba za ta yi tunani sau biyu ba: komawa ga al'ada, ba sabon 'sabon ba. 'na al'ada. Dr. Erwin yayi daidai.

    • Rob V. in ji a

      Dr. Labarin Erwin yana da sauƙin sauƙi, bai ambaci adadi daban-daban ba (na gaba da gaba). Amma abin da wataƙila mutane da yawa suka yarda da shi, aƙalla na yi, shine ban yi imani da 'sabon al'ada' ba inda dole ne mu kiyaye wani nau'i na nisantar da jama'a na shekaru masu zuwa. Komawa mataki-mataki zuwa al'ada. A wane taki? Wannan la'akari ne mai rikitarwa, amma idan hakan zai ɗauki shekaru, za ku fitar da mutane hauka kuma, a ganina, za ku haifar da lalacewar da ba ta wuce waɗanda Corona ta shafa ba.

      • Ger Korat in ji a

        Ee, idan kuna son ganin adadi daban-daban sosai, kuna iya samun wannan sama da ruwa da kanku, daidai?
        Misali, ina duk mutuwar mura ta tafi bana? Kuma me yasa muka sami mako guda a makon da ya gabata tare da asarar rayuka sama da 200 fiye da yadda ya kamata a saba.
        duba mahadar:
        https://www.cbs.nl/nl-nl/nieuws/2020/21/sterfte-in-week-20-lager-dan-normaal

        Kuma me yasa ba a rufe dukkanin al'umma a baya ba idan an sami karin dubban mutuwar a cikin 'yan makonni ko watanni saboda mura, wanda kuma za a iya hana shi tare da matakan da ake ciki yanzu?

        Kwayar cutar ba ta ƙarewa kuma magani ga ƙwayoyin cuta masu canzawa (na fahimta daga Dr. Erwin) mafarki ne. Nisantar zamantakewa bala'i ne ga mutane da yawa kuma ga tattalin arziki, al'adu, yawon shakatawa da ƙari. Haka kuma yana da illa ga lafiya saboda godiya da tuntuɓar juna, rabin al'ummar sun riga sun riga sun yi rigakafi / suna da ƙwayoyin rigakafi saboda ƙwayoyin cuta daban-daban na sanyi guda 4 waɗanda muke watsa wa juna akai-akai. Don haka a matsayina na dan kasa na ce: da sauri mu koma al'ada kafin mutane da yawa su kamu da cutar ta corona.

        • Rob V. in ji a

          Watakila wani bakon ra'ayi ne, amma a ra'ayi na wanda ya yi jayayya shima ya kamata ya tabbatar da wannan kuma ya tabbatar da da'awar. Don haka idan yallabai ya ce matattu kusan duka tsofaffi ne waɗanda ba su daɗe da rayuwa ba, to ina so in ji adadi da kaya. Na gaji da ihu ba tare da wata hujja ba (ko da kuwa ko mutum yana goyon bayan tsauraran matakan Corona ko yana son barin komai). Ina son sauraron bayanai daban-daban, amma ina so in ga hujja. Don haka ni mafari ce mai fafutuka wacce ba kawai ta yarda da kyawawan idanun wani ba, komai kwarjinin mai magana.

          • Sannan waɗancan lambobin dole ne su kasance a wurin. Wannan mai martaba yana magana akan abin da ya gani a asibitin nasa, ban tsammanin yana da wani dalili na karya akan hakan? A Tailandia kuna samun dubawa don ganin shekarun mutuwar corona da abin da ya gabata na likitancinsa da kuma aikin mutumin. Mun kuma karanta mutane nawa ne a Thailand suka warke daga Corona. A Ingila, ana kuma kiyaye sana'o'in mutuwar corona har zuwa yau (wannan bayani ne mai ban sha'awa). A cikin Netherlands, a gefe guda, muna jin kadan game da wanda ya mutu. An tsallake shekaru. Mai hankali? Shin suna da abin da za su ɓoye?

          • HarryN in ji a

            Zan taimake ku! Dr Erwin baya bukatar in tabbatar da hakan tare da alkaluma a Jamus Hamburg, Farfesa Dr. Dr Klaus Puschel ya jagoranci binciken gawarwakin daga wani asibiti da ke can. Ya binciki mutuwar mutane 140 "corona" kuma ya yanke shawarar cewa duk sun mutu ne da wasu cututtuka masu tsanani kuma har ma ya ce corona cuta ce mara lahani. Akwai gidajen yanar gizo da yawa da ke nuna hakan. Kun ce kai dan ta'adda ne, amma ina ganin AD/Trouw/Volkskrant ne kawai da kuma a cikin sakon Bangkok, wanda mai karatu kuma ya yi mamakin ko ita ma wannan jaridar tana bangaren gwamnati. Abin takaici, MSM ba shine mafi kyawun tushe ba, kawai suna son yada tsoro. Duba ƙarin akan YouTube: Dr Ioannidis/Londonreal/DR. Rashid Buttar/Dr Shiva Ayyaduras/DR.Anrew Kaufman/Dr Judy Mikovits ko DR Campbell /commonsens tv ko eh EJBron har ma da Jensen.nl da lura cewa shi ba ya ƙirƙira wani abu da kansa amma kuma ya dubi a duniya kuma akwai da yawa yanar gizo. ƙarin game da babbar zamba da ke faruwa da mu.

        • rudu in ji a

          Ana yawan yiwa majinyatan mura da suka mutu rajista tare da inda mai haƙuri ya mutu a ƙarshe.
          Misali, ciwon huhu (idan zaka iya kamuwa da shi daga mura).

          Na riga na ci karo da wannan akan Intanet a lokacin bincikena na bacewar mura ta Statistics Netherlands, amma ba zan iya tunawa da wane rukunin yanar gizo ba.

          A bayyane yake wannan yana aiki daban da Corona kuma ana lissafin mutuwar a ƙarƙashin Corona.

      • Chris in ji a

        Ina ganin labarin gwamnati yana da sauki tun farko. Kuma za mu girbe ’ya’yan itace masu ɗaci na wancan na dogon lokaci mai zuwa.
        Wataƙila mun ceci tsofaffi da yawa daga mutuwa ta hanyar kulle su ko žasa, ba tare da tambayar su ko lafiya ba. Kuma me zai faru a 2021? A'a, ba rangwame akan fansho na jiha ba; babu wata gwamnati da ta kuskura ta yi hakan, amma tana yin a kan fansho. Wanene ke samun kuɗi kaɗan? Dama, tsofaffi da muka tsira. Kuma wa zai wanke hannunsa ba da laifi ba? Dama, gwamnatin Rutte saboda kudaden fensho ba na gwamnati bane.

  8. Eric Kuypers in ji a

    Wasu ƙasashe ma sun ɗauki matakai kamar yadda gwamnatin Holland ta yi. Har zuwa dokar hana fita da hana zirga-zirgar yanki, rufe makarantu da kan iyakoki, sarrafa muryoyin baki da zafin jiki. Kasar Sin gaba daya ta rufe birnin miliyoyin mutane.

    Dr. Erwin Kompanje kwararre ne sananne. Amma na fahimci daidai cewa Netherlands kawai ke da irin wannan ƙwararrun ƙwararrun? Ko kuwa gaskiya ce, kamar yadda ake yawan faruwa a nan, a tsakiya?

  9. janbute in ji a

    Hira mai ban sha'awa wacce na yarda da ita gaba daya.
    Domin idan mutumin ya zo da zazzaɓi lokaci ya yi da za a tafi, duk da haka.

    Jan Beute.

    • Tarud in ji a

      Saboda yawancin mutane suna rayuwa kuma suna aiki a wannan duniyar kuma saboda ƙwayoyin cuta masu yaduwa suna tasowa, dole ne mu yi la'akari da cewa dole ne mu ɗauki matakai akai-akai. Ina ganin yana da kyau a kalli kwayar cutar HIV da AIDS. Kowa ya sani a yanzu cewa idan kana son hana kamuwa da cuta ya kamata ka yi amfani da kwaroron roba mai aminci ko kuma ka zauna tare da amintaccen abokin tarayya. Sauran ƙwayoyin cuta suna yaduwa ta baki, hanci da idanu. Mafi kyawun kariya shine haɗin garkuwar fuska da hular hanci/baki. Hakanan ma'aikatan kiwon lafiya suna amfani da su. Tare da wannan kariya ta biyu, babu kullewa dole ne, babu nisa na mita 1.5.
      Ana iya aiwatar da ayyuka da yawa tare da wannan kariya ta biyu. Don haka idan muka sami sabon barkewar Covid19, 20, 21, 22 yayin sabon al'ada, kowa da kowa dole ne nan da nan ya tura wannan kariyar sau biyu. Wannan zai zama mafita mai sauƙi, mai arha, inda rayuwa ta al'ada za ta ci gaba. Babu kulle-kulle, amma garkuwar fuska da hular baki / hanci. Sabuwar kwaroron roba, tsayin mita 1.

  10. Jacques in ji a

    Rayuwa ta ƙare ga kowa da kowa kuma hakan ba zai taɓa canzawa ba, kodayake akwai mutanen da a fili suke so su shimfiɗa wannan muddin zai yiwu. Zan iya tunanin wani abu tare da wannan, amma a ƙarƙashin yanayin rayuwa kuma waɗanda galibi basu da tsufa. Yawancinmu sun tsufa kuma sun yi rashin lafiya ba tare da an kama su ba. Akwai kuma da yawa daga cikinmu waɗanda kawai suke yin wani abu a rayuwa kuma galibi ba su da lafiya sosai. Wataƙila kun san su a cikin abokanku da danginku ko wataƙila wannan yana nufin ku. Na fahimci daga binciken cewa tsofaffi masu lafiya ba su da ɗan ko abin tsoro daga wannan ƙwayar cuta. Tsofaffi marasa lafiya ne yawanci ke mutuwa daga wannan idan kuma ba cutar ba to daga wani abu daban, saboda akwai cututtuka da yawa da mutane ke mutuwa daga gare su. Farfesa Scherder ya yi magana game da shi kwanan nan a talabijin kuma wani bangare saboda rashin hakki na cin abinci da sha da kuma rashin isasshen motsa jiki na mutane da yawa, yanzu muna da gwamnati da za ta yanke shawarar da, idan aka yi la'akari, ba su da kyau. Rufe rami guda da wani kuma a ƙarshe nutsewa har mutane da yawa suka sake mutuwa. Yanke shawara game da lafiya da lafiyayyen rayuwa da duk abin da ke da alaƙa da shi, kamar mutuwa daga wannan ƙwayar cuta, wani abu ne da mutane da kansu ke da babban nauyi a cikinsa. Na san mutane da yawa waɗanda ba za su iya yin ba tare da barasa ba kuma suna magana game da shi a hankali har ma suna alfahari cewa su masu amfani ne masu nauyi. Idan sun mutu to wannan abin bakin ciki ne amma wannan ya zama a kan farantin wasu. Ban ce ba. Auna daya da daya abu ne da ya kamata mu yi kuma sakamakonsa yana kan kowa, don haka ka zama namiji ko mace nagari a cikin haka kada ka bar al’umma ta zama abin da ya shafa.

  11. Chris in ji a

    Ya kamata hanyar ta kasance dabam? Tun daga farko na yi mamaki da gaske ko duk tsauraran matakan da suka shafi Covid-19 sun kasance da gaske. Baya ga bin labarai da karanta labarai, kowace rana har zuwa karshen Maris, na hau kan tituna, na hau jigilar jama'a zuwa aiki a Bangkok kuma adadin masu kamuwa da cuta ya kai kusan sifili har sai da ma'aikatan kasashen waje na Thai suka dawo daga Seoul. Amma ni murya ce tana kuka a cikin jeji. Yanzu na sami kaina a cikin kamfanin da ba a so na PVV da FvD, waɗanda suka fara yarda da matakan (don rufe makarantu, alal misali) amma ba zato ba tsammani sun canza ra'ayinsu yanzu cewa akwai ƙarin zanga-zangar adawa da manufofin gwamnati. Ba su da adawa saboda ana buƙatar canza manufofin, amma saboda dalilai na 'yanci da rashin tushen doka don tsauraran matakan.
    Shin hanyar za ta iya bambanta? Tabbas. Kasancewar cutar korona sabuwa ce kuma ’yan siyasa ba su san abin da za su yi ba, babban kuskure ne na abin da ya kamata ‘yan siyasa su yi, wanda shi ne ya jagoranci hanyoyin magance matsalolin da ke addabar kasar. Idan suna kula da kantin ne kawai, dan uwana yana iya tafiyar da kasar. Kuma - abin mamaki - an sami isassun rikice-rikicen da ba zato ba tsammani a cikin Netherlands waɗanda 'yan siyasa za su iya magancewa: hare-haren bama-bamai, kisan kiyashi, satar jirgin ƙasa da jirgin sama, harbin jirgin sama tare da mutanen Holland a cikin jirgin, da dai sauransu manyan kurakuran corona. manufar ita ce (har yanzu) komai yana karkashin ra'ayi da shawarwari na bangaren likitanci, sannan kuma takaitaccen bangare na wannan bangare (masu binciken kwayar cutar) ya zama wani nau'in imani wanda babu sukan da ba zai yiwu ba kuma ba a yarda da shi ba, sai kwanan nan. . A yanzu an cire wani faifan bidiyo tare da wata hira da wasu likitocin Amurka guda 2 daga Youtube a karo na biyu. (saboda fake news qualifier)
    Idan da mutum ya ɗan yi nazarin ka'idar hargitsi, zai san cewa babu wani sabon abu a wannan duniyar da yake sabo gaba ɗaya, amma galibi yana bin tsarin da aka rigaya yake can. "Da farko, ka'idar rikice-rikice ita ce ka'idar kimiyya da ke bayyana rashin tabbas na tsarin, kamar yanayin yanayi, yanayin muhalli da ruwa. Duk da yake irin waɗannan tsare-tsaren suna nuna halin ruɗani bazuwar, ana iya siffanta su ta hanyar dabarun lissafi kuma ba su kusan ruɗe kamar yadda mutum zai yi tunani ba. Wannan yana aiki tare da algorithms waɗanda kuma FB ke amfani da su, alal misali. Dangane da halayyar bincike da bayar da sharhi da abubuwan so kafin tsakar rana, algorithm na iya tantance yadda damuwar ku a wannan rana. Kwayar cutar korona ta bi wasu alamu da wani mai bincike de Hond ya bayyana a cikin hirarraki daban-daban. Ba a yin komai da wannan ilimin na ci gaba, bisa bincike. Har yanzu a'a.

  12. Tino Kuis in ji a

    Bayanai na baya-bayan nan daga Brazil da Mexico sun nuna cewa ana samun mace-mace a tsakanin matasa fiye da na Turai.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/the_americas/coronavirus-brazil-killing-young-developing-world/2020/05/22/f76d83e8-99e9-11ea-ad79-eef7cd734641_story.html

    Cita:
    A Brazil, kashi 15 cikin 50 na mace-mace mutane ne 'yan kasa da shekaru 10 - adadin da ya ninka sau 25 fiye da na Italiya ko Spain. A Meziko, yanayin ya fi yin tsamari: Kusan kashi ɗaya cikin huɗu na waɗanda suka mutu sun kasance tsakanin 49 zuwa 60. A Indiya, jami'ai sun ba da rahoton wannan watan cewa kusan rabin waɗanda suka mutu ba su wuce 49 ba. A jihar Rio de Janeiro, fiye da kashi biyu bisa uku na asibitocin na mutanen kasa da shekaru XNUMX ne.

    • Wannan bai ce da yawa ba. Yana da mahimmanci a san ko suna da cututtuka masu mahimmanci: kiba, hawan jini, asma, cututtukan zuciya, ciwon sukari, da dai sauransu? An san cewa yawancin waɗanda abin ya shafa a New York sun riga sun yi rashin lafiya kafin su mutu daga Covid-19. Hakanan da alama akwai nau'ikan Covid-19 daban-daban, ɗayan mafi tsanani fiye da ɗayan.

    • Eric van Dusseldorp in ji a

      Tino, lokacin da kake magana game da Indiya, dole ne ka ƙara cewa mutane uku ne kawai cikin miliyan (!) suka mutu daga Covid-19 a can.

    • Maarten Binder in ji a

      Ee, na gode cuckoo, kodayake ba zai iya taimaka masa ba
      A Brazil akwai cutar kanjamau da yawa, amma har ma da nakasar G6PD, wanda kuma ke da hadari idan ba tare da HCQ ba, amma WAPO ba ta bayar da rahoton hakan ba, saboda dole ne a ci gaba da firgita.

  13. Lia Kerkhoff in ji a

    Kyakkyawar hirar da ke bayyana jin daɗin ciki da tambayoyin da ba za a iya ba game da "corona" tare da ban dariya da alamun tambaya masu mahimmanci zuwa wannan tsarewa a cikin kyakkyawan 'yanci' Netherlands.

  14. Kevin Oil in ji a

    Kyakkyawan hira, gaba ɗaya yarda.
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