Schengen vhiza mubvunzo: Mukadzi wangu wekuThai ane chinodiwa chekubatanidza kana ndikadzokera kuBelgium?
Wadiwa Mupepeti/Rob V.,
Pane anoziva here kana mukadzi wangu weThai ane chisungo chekubatanidzwa kweFlanders/Belgium patinoenda ikoko? Ini nemudzimai wangu wekuThailand tinoda kudzokera kuAntwerp. Mukadzi wangu ane makore 55 ekuberekwa uye ini ndine makore makumi matanhatu nemana. Makore makumi maviri apfuura ndakatamira kuNL ndisingadi zvangu nekuti mudzimai wangu haana kuwana vhiza revashanyi kana mvumo yekugara kuBelgium.
Saka mudzimai wangu ave achigara zviri pamutemo muEU, muNetherlands, kwemakore 20. Munguva iyoyo akashanda nguva yakazara muNetherlands. Kuziva kwake mutauro wechiDutch hakuna kunaka, dzimwe nguva zvakaoma kunzwisisa. Mashoko ake echiDutch ane mashoma. Asi kutaurirana kubasa kwake kwave kuchifamba zvakanaka kwemakore makumi maviri. Ndosaka asiri kuda kuita imwe kosi yekubatanidza muAntwerp.
MuNetherlands akaita kosi yekubatanidza makore 20 apfuura. asi haana kuwana chitupa. Haana kusvika padanho raidiwa "NT2" yeDutch.
Uye kana akanga achiri kusungirwa kutevera kosi yekubatanidza muBelgium, uye akakundikana zvakare nemhaka yokusaziva kwakakwana kwomutauro wechiDutch, aizofanira kuita kosi yacho zvakare kusvikira awana mipimo here?
Kwazisai,
Johan
Wadiwa Johan,
Kana iwe, semugari weBelgian, uchigara muNetherlands nemukadzi wako weThai, mutemo weEU unoshanda. Kuti zvive chaizvo, EU Directive 2004/38 yenhengo dzemhuri dzevaEurope. Izvi zvinoreva, pakati pezvimwe zvinhu, kuti mudzimai wako aisasungirwa kubatanidzwa muNetherlands uye ane inonzi 'kadhi rekugara' rinotaura kuti inhengo yemhuri yerudzi rweEU/EEA (vanogara vachitama mhuri vanogashira 'pekugara. mvumo' pane 'kadhi rekugara').
Kana iwe ukadzokera kuBelgium mushure mekushandisa kodzero idzi, iyo yakakosha mitemo inoshandawo muBelgium, saka haafanire kubatanidza ikoko zvakare. Handizivi chaizvo kuti unotanga sei maitiro kuburikidza neDVZ, asi ita shuwa kuti unoita kuti zvizivikanwe kuti wakashandisa mutemo wako weEU muNetherlands. Ndingada kuenda nekadhi rekugara reDutch ndoisa kopi yaro pamwe nekunyorera kweBelgian 'nhengo yemhuri yeEU/EEA Citizen' kadhi rekugara.
Ruzivo rwakawanda pawebhusaiti yeDVZ, ona kubva pamusoro wekuti 'Gara muBelgium': dofi.ibz.be/
Vaverengi vanogona kunge vakakutangirai vanogona kugovera ruzivo rwavo runoshanda pazasi. Ndokumbira utarise kuti kuti ive yekuzvarwa nyika yeEU ingangoda kubatanidzwa. Saka kana mukadzi wako (zvakare) achida kutora nyika yeBelgian, zvimwe zvisungo zvinogona kuiswa.
Kwazisai,
Rob V.
Kana wanga uchigara muNetherlands kwenguva yakareba uye wakaronga zvakanaka kodzero yako yekugara muNetherlands, munofanirwa kuve mese mune inonzi kodzero yekugara zvachose. Kana zvisina kudaro, zvikumbire nekukurumidza uchishandisa fomu iri https://ind.nl/Formulieren/6012.pdf
Hapana akakosha mamiriro anoshanda kune izvi.
Hauzivi kuti ramangwana richange rakaita sei uye neiri gwaro rekugara mose muri vaviri imi nomudzimai wako munofukidzwa sezvamungagona. Kunyara kurinani pane kunyara ndaizofunga.
Paunodzokera kuBelgium, unogona kutora mudzimai wako newe.
Iye zvino ane kodzero dzakafanana semukadzi wechiThai wemugari wechiDutch anogara muBelgium uye HAZVICHADII kuti abatanidze ikoko.
MuBelgium unonyoresa nekanzuru. Mudzimai wako achakumbira mvumo yekugara ikoko. Hapana zvakare chinodiwa panguva iyoyo.Achagamuchira F kadhi mushure memwedzi mitanhatu uye anogona zvakare kunyorera kodzero yekugara zvachose muBelgium mushure memakore mashanu. Anobva atora F+ kadhi.
Mukupindura kwangu ndakafungidzira kuti munhu aibvunza ane chizvarwa cheBelgian.
Zvakaitwa naAdrie pazasi zvine nyonganyonga uye hazvinzwisisiki.
Semuenzaniso, Netherlands haina chekuita nemvumo yekugara yeBelgian
Mamiriro esarudzo anogona kuverengwa pano: https://ind.nl/Formulieren/5013.pdf
Handifunge kuti mudzimai weBelgian anogona kushandisa izvi muNetherlands.
Vanodiwa changamire,
Ruzivo kubva kuna Rob V. Haina kukwana. Chete nemvumo yekugara yeBelgian inoshanda mumwe wako haasungirwe kubatanidza muNetherlands. Kubva munyaya yako ndinonzwisisa kuti mumwe wako haana izvi. Ndinofunga unogona kuwana gwaro iri pashure 4 mwedzi, ndakanga ndaverenga iri kamwe.
Handizive kana mumwe wako akagara muNetherlands kweanopfuura makore gumi nemashanu (zvichienderera) uye akaroora chizvarwa cheDutch kweanopfuura makore 15, mune iyo nyaya anogona kukwanisa kuwana Dutch nyika kuburikidza nesarudzo chirongwa. Kuti uwane rumwe ruzivo, ona IND.nl, sarudzo chirongwa.
Grt. Adrian
Wadiwa Adri, ndinofunga uri kushandura zvinhu? Munhu weThai akauya kuNetherlands anofanira kuwana sei mvumo yekugara muBelgian? Izvi zvine chekuita nemurume wekuBelgium ane mudzimai wekuThailand, anogara kuNetherlands. Ipapo iyo Thai haimbosungirwe kubatanidza muNetherlands pasi pemutemo weEU. Uye kana vakadzokera kuBelgium, ivo havanawo chisungo chekubatanidza ikoko.
Onawo anobatsira ekuwedzera ePrawo.
NB: haishande kuna Johan, asi neimwe nzira mamiriro acho angave aya kune vaviri veDutch-Thai:
- famba wakananga kuNetherlands: kubatanidzwa kunodiwa
- ChiDutchman neThai vaviri vachazogara muBE: hapana kubatanidzwa. Kana iwe ukatamira kuNetherlands, hapana kubatanidzwa ikoko, asi vanoratidza kugara kwavo chaiko muBE nekadhi rekugara reBelgian nemamwe magwaro. Kugara zvishoma mwedzi mitatu, asi kuve pamucheto sezvizvi hazviiti kuti basa rekubvakacha rifadze (kufungira nekuda kwe 'kushungurudzwa' kunovanda uye nekudaro vanokanganisa vakuru).
Zuva, pandakauya kuBelgium muna 2008 nemukadzi wangu wekuThai, akaroora kuThailand, uye akaita kuti anyoreswe kukanzuru, akatora kosi yekubatanidza uye akapasa zvine mutsindo, aive nevakawanda vaaishanda navo vekuEurope neAfrica. yeavo vakakundikana saka pakanga pasina chido.Saka ndaizoti kana mudzimai wako achinzwisisa mutauro, saka hazvina kuoma sezvakaita kuNetherlands.
Kwaziwai, Martin
Handikwanise kutaura pamusoro pemitemo. Ndine zano. Usati wagara munharaunda yeBelgian: taura nameya. Bvunza kuti anoda here kunyoresa mukadzi wako kukanzuru. Kukurukurirana kwakanaka kunowanzo chengetedza kunyoreswa kwakatsetseka, uye saka hazvizove dambudziko kuDVZ.
Pfungwa yakanaka!
Kutaura naBart de Wever, meya weAntwerp, zvichange zvakaoma. Kana ndikakwanisa kubata mushandi wehurumende ndichagutsikana!
sezviri pachena kuchine chimwe chinhu che "kuronga" muBelgium. Ndakaziva kare asi ndakafunga kuti zvino. Ndinofara kuti chiitiko ichi chichiripo muBelgium.
Ndatenda, Rob.
Nyaya yakajeka, ine zvinyorwa zvepamutemo zvakabatanidzwa!
Dutchman. Akaroora mukadzi wekuAsia kwemakore gumi.
Kugara muBelgium. Mukadzi ane F kadhi (inoshanda kwemakore mashanu). Inofanirwa kupinda kosi ye5 kusvika kumakore matatu yemutauro wechiDutch yakabhadharwa nenyika yeBelgian uye munguva pfupi inotevera uchafanira kupinda kosi yekubatanidza. Iko hakuna chisungo, asi kana ukasaita izvi, hapana kuwedzera kwekunyoreswa kweBelgian kuchapihwa mushure memakore mashanu.
Wadiwa Brabantman, unorevei chaizvo ne'kunyoreswa kweBelgian'? Ivo havagone kuramba kuwedzera kodzero yako yekugara nekuda kwekushaikwa kwekubatanidzwa, nekuti izvi hazvisi uye hazvigone kudiwa pasi pemitemo yeEU. Kana ukasatora chikamu uchizvidira, DVZ haigone kukukuvadza. Asi kana kosi yemahara yakakunakira iwe, unogona zvechokwadi kushandisa icho chinopihwa chekuda kwako. Kana kuti mumwe mukuru anga achibudirira kutyisidzira achiti hazvifanirwe kuitwa, asi 'zvinofanira'?
MaBelgians vanoziva zvakare kuti veEurope nemhuri dzavo havagone kusungirwa kuita chero chinhu, ona (pamwe pane zvirinani zvinongedzo) semuenzaniso: https://www.agii.be/nieuws/behoud-verblijf-wordt-afhankelijk-van-integratie-inspanningen
"Kunyangwe mutemo uchitaura kuda kubatanidzwa senzvimbo yekugara, mamiriro aya haashande kune mamwe marudzi ezvikumbiro zvekugara uye zvimiro:
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- Vagari vemumubatanidzwa, kusanganisira nhengo dzemhuri dzinonyorera pasi peChinyorwa 40, 40bis kana 40ter
- MaBelgians akashandisa kodzero yavo yekusununguka kufamba, kusanganisira nhengo dzemhuri
- Vagari venguva refu muEU vanokumbira pekugara pechipiri muBelgium
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