Ndeipi misiyano pakati pekereke Tairendi, iyo Marten Visser, mumishinari muThailand, ari chikamu. Uye chechi yomuNetherlands, yaaimbopinda mairi? Heino yake pachake yepamusoro-5:
5. VaKristu vechiDutch vakatsiga.
Hupenyu huri kuoma muThailand. Matambudziko emhuri nemari akakura uye anooneka kupfuura muNetherlands. Madhirama akanyanya kuwanda, kusanganisira muhupenyu hwevaKristu. Izvi zvinoonekwawo muhupenyu hwerutendo. Nzvimbo dzepamusoro muThailand dzakakwirira, mipata yakadzikira. Izvozvo dzimwe nguva zvinoita kuti ushuve vanhu vakawanda vanoramba vachitevera Jesu zuva nezuva, gore negore, muzvinhu zvose zvoupenyu. Chechi muThailand inowanzonzwa senge rollercoaster. Ndaimbovenga hudofo hwechiDutch. Iye zvino ndinodaidza kuti kugadzikana uye ndinokoshesa.
4. Machechi eThai madiki.
Kune akati wandei megachurches muThailand, asi mazhinji machechi madiki. Zvikamu zviviri muzvitatu zvemakereke ese ane nhengo dzisingasviki makumi mana. Muchidimbu semhedzisiro yeizvi, kune zvakawanda zvekunzwa kuve mhuri pamwechete mumakereke eThai. Hauzivikanwi uye vanhu vakawanda vari kuita basa rechechi. Panguva imwecheteyo, zvinoreva kuti pane dzimwe nguva kune chimiro chidiki uye hurongwa zvekuti zvinonetsa kuti chechi ishande.
3. MuThailand, Chechi iri kukura.
Chechi muThailand idiki asi iri kukura. Zvikamu zviviri muzvitatu zvevaKristu zvakauya pakutenda ivo pachavo kubva kumamiriro echiBhudha. Mukereke imwe neimwe zvinoitika nguva nenguva kuti vanhu vauye pakutenda. Izvozvo zvinopa mhepo inofadza zvikuru kupfuura iya yokuti 'wekupedzisira achadzima chiedza here?' yechechi yeDutch.
2. Chechi yeThai inobvuma simba reShoko raMwari.
Handina chokwadi zvachose kuti maKristu eThai anoteerera zvakanyanya kumirairo yaMwari kupfuura maKristu echiDutch. Asi vane chinhu chimwe chete chinovamirira: vanobvuma kutongwa neShoko raMwari. VaKristu vechiDutch vanowanzofungidzira kutonga Bhaibheri. MaKristu eThai, sevanhu vashoma vatsva, vanoziva kuti Bhaibheri rinowanzopesana netsika dzavo uye kuti vanodanwa kuti vave kudivi raMwari. MaKristu echiDutch haasati ajaira pfungwa yekuve vashoma uye nekudaro vanowanzoita kuti Bhaibheri rienderane nezvinodiwa netsika. Neimwe nzira 'asi munhu wese anozviita' rave nharo huru yevaKristu vechiDutch. MaKristu eThai haazeze kufunga kuti 'saka munhu wese ari kuzviita zvisizvo', kunyangwe vaine kakurerekera kekukwevera kune vamwe.
1. Chechi yeDutch haizivi maitiro.
Kuonekwa kubva kure, maitiro echechi yeDutch kune nzanga anoshanduka pakati pemaonero matatu akasiyana: emwana mudiki anoda kutorwa zvakanyanya; iya yemaneja webhangi anodzivirira mutemo wekambani yake iwe uchinzwa kuti anonyara nazvo; uye iya yechembere yakamirira kuchembera kwayo mumusha wevanorega basa pasina imwezve hanya nokuda kwenyika yokunze.
Ose ari matatu mafungiro asina kunaka. Vanomutsa mufananidzo wechechi yakarasa nzvimbo yayo uye haichagoni kuita chiito. Chechi yeThai inongotaura nezvaJesu. Anovimba kuti zvirongwa zvaMwari zvakanaka uye kuti Mwari ari kushanda. Anovimba kuti ari kudivi rinokunda uye kuti zvakakodzera kukoka vanhu kuti vave vaKristu. Kutenda hakuna dambudziko. Ndiwo mutsauko mukuru uye chikonzero chandinonzwa ndiri kumba muchechi yeThai. Zvingave zvakanaka kana kugadzikana kwechiDutch kwemazana emakore emidzi munharaunda uye kutenda kweThai uye kushingairira kwekereke yechizvarwa chekutanga zvingabatanidzwa.
Kwakabva: Marten Visser, mumishinari muThailand, akatumirwa pa cip.nl.
Kees. Iva akasununguka kufunga; ipapo chete ndipo pauno“poneswa pazvivi zvako zvose”.
Kunyangwe, (I) ndinobvumira munhu wese kunyengera kwake.
Nei vanhu vachifanira kutendeuka kubva kuBuddhism kuenda kuchiKristu? handisi kuona chinangwa pazviri.
Vasiye zvakadaro.
Bvumirana naPetro. Ndosaka ndichiona zvichishoreka kuti “mamishinari” aya anowanzogadzira misha yenherera, inonzi nerupo, asi nenzwisiso yekuti iyi ndiyo mweya iri nyore kukunda.
Martin Visser (mumishinari). Kana munhu akazvigadzika paari, semuenzaniso, izwi raAllah kana raMwari, izvi zvinowanzo tungamira kune zvishoma zvakanaka. Nenzira, chii chandinofanira kufungidzira neshoko rokuti 'mwari'?
Kubva pane zvakaitika kwandiri parwendo rwedu rwekutanga muThailand, mwedzi wapfuura, ndinoda kupa mhinduro inotevera. Iyi misiyano inonakidza yaunoona, asi yakakosha zvakadaro? Pane musiyano mukuru here? Ndakadonha kubva pakutenda kwangu kweRoman Catholic kwemakore, asi dai izvo zvisina kuitika, pane mukana wakanaka wekuti zvingadai zvakaitika mushure mekushanya kuThailand. VaBuddha ikoko vanozvipira chaizvo paunoona mabatiro avanoita ivo pachavo nokutenda ikoko. Respect. Kune rimwe divi, iko kutenda kweDisney. Matemberi ane zviumbwa zvemashato nevarindi nemari, mari yakawanda, uyewo nzvimbo yamambo mune zvose izvi. Shanyira Imba yehumambo uye inoshanduka kuve inzvimbo yekushanya, uko Thais anongogara achinamata pakati pevasingatendi vashanyi vekunze. Mukuona, izvi zvakanaka kuona. Asi zvinoitawo kuti ufunge. Nokuti tinowanawo humwari ihwohwo munzvimbo dzedu dzokushanyira nzvimbo tsvene, umo vanhu vanotaura kutenda kwavo nomwoyo wose. Vose vane chivimbo chikuru muna mwari wavo asi mumwe bedzi akarurama! Zvino kutenda kwechokwadi chii? Wedzera kune icho chiIslam, icho chinouyawo padyo zvakanyanya kumaodzanyemba kweThailand uye isingazezi mhirizhonga. Ndiani ari pachokwadi ipapo, muKristu, muBhudha, muIslam kana asingatendi? Saka musiyano mukuru ndeupi? Dambudziko radhiabhorosi.
Anodiwa French,
Vese vakanaka uye kana ukati havagone havagone kuve vese, saka ichokwadi.
Jeffrey. Zviri nani kutaura kuti VANOONA kuti vakarurama. Ndichowo chinhu chakanaka pamusoro pechitendero; munhu wese anonzwisisa nyika nenzira yake. Zvinobva zvanyanya kunetsa kana munhu achitaura kuti ane hungwaru chete.
jeff, zvinosuruvarisa kuti hazvisi nyore.
Zvakadaro, iwe unofanirwa kuita sarudzo pakati pekuda kutenda kana kusatenda.
Pa "tenda" iwe unenge uine sarudzo yemahara pakati pezvinotendwa makumi mana nemaviri,
ingo google "Big Religion Chart". Kutenda kunofananidzwa zvakajeka mune izvi.
Sezvineiwo, kana usingatendi, une sarudzo imwe chete.
Muchikamu chino tinotaura nezvekusiyana. Zviripachena zvakare kuti pane musiyano mukuru pakati pekutenda kana kusatenda kana tasvika pa'kutumwa'. Nokuti kune mumishinari ari kuenda kuThailand kunoudza vanhu ikoko kuti zvose zvakaipa.
Chinhu chimwe chete chingaitwa nemunhu asingatendi ndechekupa nzwisiso mukushungurudzwa kwechitendero kuitira kuti vanhu vafunge. Kana zvisiri ipapo, tozvigadzirisa nesu. Ini ndinoona zvekutengesa zvakanyanya Buddhism muThailand, isu tinoziva chiIslam chechokwadi uye tinoziva kubva munhoroondo zvakaitwa nemaKristu. (somuenzaniso nevanyengeri… vaCathars, Dare reBvunzurudzo). Zvino zvinosuruvarisa kuti havagoni kuva vose vari mugwara.
Zvino pamwe tinofanira kungogadzirisa; Kodzero dzeMunhu.
Kusatenda hakusi kuita sarudzo, asi kungorarama hupenyu hwako wega.
Kutenda kuita sarudzo.
@franz. Sei kuita sarudzo. Ndakauya panyika semunhu, ndisina chitendero chipi zvacho. Saka ndinobvumirana naWim, vanhu vanotenda vakaita sarudzo, kwete vasingatendi. Zvinosuruvarisa, sarudzo inowanzobata rusununguko rwevamwe vanhu.
Muzita ra "Mwari" ungadzivirira sei basa (anozofunga kuti kudana iye pachake) semumishinari. Kutendesa vamwe vanhu kuti vanorarama zvisiri izvo, iwe unoziva chokwadi chega uye kazhinji kuburikidza nenhoroondo nerubatsiro rwebakatwa.
Ndinonyatsokoshesa Thailandblog, verenga zuva nezuva, inopa ruzivo rwakanaka. Asi mumishinari ndicho chinhu chekupedzisira chinodiwa neThailand (blog) (ndine hurombo vapepeti, hongu makasununguka mukusarudza kwechinyorwa uye sezvakataurwa; zvakare kona yakanaka yekutarisa nyaya yeThailand kubva kune imwe kona).
Sezvineiwo, maitiro evaverengi vazhinji haana kukakavara: unotenda kumba, siya vamwe vari voga, hakuchina chitendero chaita kuti nyika ive nzvimbo iri nani.
Kana maThais vakasarudza Buddhism, ngavave, kusvika mamishinari asisa "tendi" asi vanyatsoziva uye vanoratidzwa chokwadi. Asi kunyangwe zvakadaro munhu wese ane kodzero yake.
Asi hongu, chinyorwa ichi chaive nezve mutsauko uripo pakati peNL nechechi yeTH. Ndinonyatsoziva izvozvo, sezviri pachena vanhu vashoma vanofarira. Kazhinji izwi rekuti “mumishinari” rinondipa manyemwe uye mamwe akawanda.
Thailand iri pamberi mukurwisa AIDS/HIV. Kana vakawana chimwe chinhu pane izvozvo, zvingava zvakanaka kana danho rinotevera ringava jekiseni rinopesana nekutenda. Ipapo nyika inova yechokwadi zvikuru.
Usaite sarudzo, ndinobvuma, .... asi zvinosuruvarisa ichokwadi kuti kuchine vanhu vazhinji vachiri vapenyu avo sarudzo yakatoitwa. VaBuddha muThailand, somuenzaniso, vane mamongi uye unoona vakomana vaduku zvikuru imomo semamongi. Ivo havagoni kuita sarudzo iyoyo. Iwe zvakare unoona vasikana vadiki nevadiki vechiIslam vakapfeka misoro, kazhinji isingasviki makore masere. Uyewo nokukurumidza zvikuru sarudzo. Ini pachangu, ndakabhabhatidzwa, ndanga ndiri mukomana wepaatari pachangu, ndakarasa kutenda kwangu kwenguva refu, ndaita sarudzo, asi ndichiri kufanira 'kudzima kunyoresa seRoman Catholic'. Uye ini handiite izvozvo, pamwe nekuti handina kumbobvira ndakumbira kuve RK. Wobva watora kuchecheudzwa (kwevakomana nevasikana!!) uye uchaona kuti hazvisi zvemunhu wese kuti 'asafanirwa kuita sarudzo'.
Mumishinari wedu Marten haafaniri kutengesa marudzi ose aya ekunyanyisa, asi anowanepi kukurudzira kutanga "kukoshesa" vanhu ikoko muna 2012? chinoramba chiri chakavanzika chikuru kwandiri zvakare. Naizvozvo ndinofara nemaitiro mazhinji anoti; usa.
Moderator: nhaurirano yacho inofamba zvishoma nezvishoma kubva munyaya
Mumwe musiyano: varume nevakadzi vashanyi.
Muchechi muNL, kwandakashanyira pakupedzisira, makanga mune vakadzi vakawanda kupfuura varume.
Njiva zhinji dzakachena. Inogonawo kuva nechekuita nekuchembera kwehuwandu hwevanhu uye nemusiyano wenguva yehupenyu pakati pevarume nevakadzi.
Muchechi muTH, kwandaive kekupedzisira, maingova nevarume vakuru chete (farang). Mufundisi aisambova nechinetso nevakadzi vechiThai (mudiwa waFarang) muchechi yake, asi pashure penguva yakati akakumbira varume vacho nomutsa kuti vasiye vakadzi vacho pamusha.
Chikonzero: vakadzi vechiThai vakaungana mushure mesevhisi ichibva yatanga. Kukwikwidzana: murume wangu anondipa zvakawanda pamwedzi, farang wangu achangobva kunditengera tig-baht goridhe, uye iye zvino akaisawo imba nemota nyowani muzita rangu. Uye mamwe mazwi akadaro erudo. Kazhinji bluffing uye kurira.
Kunyangwe Chechi ichida kuunza runyararo pasi pano, kubatana uku kazhinji kwakatungamira kumamiriro eudhiabhori mumhepo yemumba mushure:
"Imi vanayo, sei musingandipe?, Charlie akachipa!".
Kuenda kuchechi nokudaro kwakava chimwe chinhu kune vakawanda vakanga vasingachatarisiri.
Uye saka chikumbiro chemufundisi chekuti usatora madzimai newe.
Mune imwe chechi yeThai yechiKristu yandakashanyira nguva pfupi yadarika, yaive mhomho yevanhu vakavhengana: vangangoita vese vechiThai, varume nevakadzi, zvakare vadiki. Kwaiva nemufaro.
Mukuona kwangu vose veThai vanofanira kungova maBhudha.
Handinzwisise kuti machechi emuNetherlands nhasi anowana kupi kudada nekutumira mamishinari.
Sokuona kwangu, vanhu vanofanira kungova vakasununguka kusarudza chitendero kana kuti mararamiro anonyanyovafadza. Uye ipapo unogona kuedza kuzivisa shoko rechiratidzo chako kana kugovera (kukurukura) navamwe, chero bedzi iri hurukuro yakazaruka pasina kunetsa vanhu. Nenzira, ngatitarisei, vangani vanhu muSoutheast Asia vakasarudza nehana Buddism (kana chimwe chinhu)? Handizvo here kuti vabereki vavo vakavaendesa kutemberi/kuchechi/... vachiri mwana? Ipapo ndinofunga kuti zvingava zvakanaka kuzivisa vanhu kumaonero akasiyana-siyana pamusoro pehupenyu, semuenzaniso kuburikidza nedzidzo, kuitira kuti vagone kuita sarudzo yekuziva.
Nenzira, vazhinji veThai havasi vechitendero. Kwete muThai mudiki wandinoziva semusikana wangu neshamwari dzake. Apo ndinobvunza pamusoro pechiBuddha, kazhinji kazhinji havana mhinduro uye vanotaura kuti vakanga vasingateereri chaizvoizvo apo vaienda kutembere somwana. Sevanhu vakuru havaendi kakawanda zvakadaro, kazhinji pakunovhakacha chete. Zvadaro, hongu, lotus, makenduru uye zvinonhuwira zvinotengwa pamatemberi makuru. Zvakanaka chaizvo, ndozvandinogara ndichiita ini. MuKrungthep uye nemamwe maodha evashanyi iwe dzimwe nguva unofanirwa kubhadhara yekupinda semushanyi, kana zvichibvira ini handiite izvo asi kutenga zvinopihwa uye kupa mupiro. Ini ndinoona kupinda sechimwe chinhu chemushanyi wekutora mifananidzo anouya kuzotora mifananidzo yakanaka pasina ruremekedzo.
Taura nezvekudada. Ndiani anosarudza kuti ""vese Thais anofanira kunge ari maBhudha". Vose vokuMadokero vanofanira kuvawo vaKristu here? Rusununguko rwechitendero kwandiri runoratidzika kuva rwakanaka zvikuru. Ini handisi mutendi, asi sevamwe vese vasingatendi handina simba rehungwaru. Mharidzo yekusatenda mune chero chinhu inowanzoratidzwa se "kutenda kwechokwadi". Chero bedzi mamishinari achizivisa kutenda kwavo, asi usingamanikidze, zvinoratidzika kwandiri zvakanaka. Machechi anowanzo kuita basa rakanaka pamwero muduku uye anounza chimiro chinobatsira vanhu. Kuti Islam inofunga kuti inofanira kuparadzira kana kudzivirira kutenda nechisimba imhando yehutumwa isina chekuita nerusununguko rwechitendero. Chikonzero chakanaka chekusasarudza izvozvo. Zvinosuruvarisa, vanhu vanoda kusvika bhiriyoni vanofunga zvakasiyana.
Zvechokwadi handidi kutaura kuti vaThai vose vanofanira kuva vaBuddha, asi musandiudza kuti vanonzi mamishinari vakaparadzira kutenda kuno nokuzvidira.
Sezvakangoita mumazuva ekare muAfrica apo vaitenga mweya ine mabead nemagirazi, zvinhu zvepanyika zvinopiwawo muno kuti uve nhengo yechechi.
Mudzimai wangu aida kudzidza Chirungu chiri nani uye akawana kosi yepachena.
Pandakanzwa kuti yaibva kuchechi, ndakanga ndatova nemadoubts.
uye hongu, kana aida kutevera nzira yacho, vanhu vaitanga vauya kumba kuti vataure navo pamusoro peiyo farang isina umwari, zvikasadaro bato racho raisazoitwa.
Bead nemagirazi changamire.
Chinonditsamwisa zvakanyanya pamusoro pemaKristu nemaMuslim ndechekuti zvikoro zvese zvepfungwa zvinofunga kuti zvine hugaro paChokwadi. Kusava nechokwadi, manzwiro omusikirwo evanhu, ndeechienzi kumativi ose, kana kuti saka hama nehanzvadzi dzeBhaibheri nendebvu dzeKoran dzinoda kuti tidavire. Zvisinei, kusava nechokwadi unhu hwakanaka sezvakunoratidza kuti tiri kuyera zvinhu. Nezvitendero zviviri izvi, zvese zvakatojeka sebundu uye hapasisina chikonzero chekufunga / kusahadzika zvakare. Zvose zviri mumagaba nemajagi. Nenhamo yese inosanganisirwa nayo.
Sei chiKristu chichifanira kuunzwa pano kuburikidza nemishini? Ndinofunga kuti kuchine zvakawanda zvekushandura muNetherlands.
Ita kuti Thailand ive yechiKristu, nepo kune inoshingaira / ine hutsinye nhare yechiMuslim kumaodzanyemba? Ndizvo zvakafanana nekumutsa hondo/mhirizhonga.
MaBhudha nderimwe remapoka mashoma asingatamburi nechishuvo chinomanikidzira chokuparadzira zvitendero zvavo. Kusiyana nemaKristu nemaMuslim.
Hazvina zvakawanda zvakanaka zvingatarisirwa kubva kune mumwe wavo.
Wadiwa Teun
Iwe unonyatso funga zvine basa kune vekumaodzanyemba kweThailand?
Ndinoreva kuti yese yeThailand ndeyechiKristu, chiBhudha, chechiJudha, chiAnimist, kana chii?
Aiwa, vanhu vokumaodzanyemba ivavo vanongopfuurira kuparadzira kutenda kwavo nechisimba.
Uye zvamazvirokwazvo, Buddhism chimwe chezvitendero zvishomanene munyika izvo zvisingapindiri chaizvoizvo.
Kunyange zvakadaro, ndaiva kuWaalwijk nomudzimai wangu uye ndakabatwa somunhu asingakanganisi aiedza “kushanda” neni kana zvaidiwa.
Sezvineiwo, aive chizvarwa cheDutch, sekutaura.
Uye kwandiri, kupararira kwemazano akasiyana ekereke dzechiKristu kunogona kumira.
Wadiwa HansNL,
Kana usina hanya, ini ndichapindura pachinzvimbo chaTeun, wawakataurira izvi.
Ehe, zvine basa zvakanyanya kune "vekumaodzanyemba" muThailand, ivo vanofarirawo kuona maMuslim anonyanyisa achienda pane kuti vauye, ini pachangu ndakaroora mukadzi wechiMuslim anobva kumaodzanyemba kweThailand uye, isati yanyatsogadzikana, ndakafamba nguva refu. zvakawanda ipapo, ikozvino hausati wanyatso chengeteka muHat Yai, guta rakanaka kwazvo kumaodzanyemba, ndaigara ndichiishandisa senzvimbo yekumira panguva yekumhanya vhiza kuenda kuMalaysia ndozoenderera mberi nebhazi reko kuenda kumuganhu, nguva dzose a zororo diki remazuva mashoma ndariita.
Kune kashoma chiremba, mukoti kana mudzidzisi anowanikwa kumaodzanyemba, mapurisa anomanikidzwa kugara ikoko, masoja anotumirwa ikoko, zvese zvinopesana nekuda kwavo.
VaThai ikoko vanodawo kubatsirwa nekushanya, vanongoda kuenda kuchikoro uye / kana kuchipatara, vasingatyi.
Iwo maMuslim anonyanyisa haasi kana kubva kuThailand, kana ivo zvakare kurwisa chikoro kana chimwe chinhu chakadaro. vakazvipira, vanotiza sembwa dzinotya kuyambuka muganhu neMalaysia, uko vanotsigirwa nemagandanga anozivikanwa echiMuslim uye vana vanodzidziswa nenzira yakafanana neyomuAfghanistan, semuenzaniso.
MaMuslim pachavo muThailand akadai paKoh Lanta, Phuket uye Koh PhiPhi vanhu vane runyararo, vanofara vasingadi CHECHINHU nekutya.
Kwazisai,
Lex K.
Wadiwa Lex
Chokwadi, maMuslim anonyanyisa vanowanzopinda muThailand kubva kuMalaysia.
Uye, sekureva kwakasiyana mishumo, kune zvakare akati wandei maArabu anotenderera kumaodzanyemba Thailand neMalaysia.
Asi…….
Ichokwadi kuti nhamba dzakadaro dzinogona chete kuita "basa" ravo nerutsigiro, rwakananga kana rusina kunanga, rwevagari vemo.
Nepakarepo ndinoreva rubatsiro runoshanda mukutsvaga zvinangwa, kuita kurwisa uye zvimwe zverudzi irworwo.
Nekusina kunanga ndinoreva kuti vanhu vanotarisa neimwe nzira, havadyidzane nekuferefeta uye, pamusoro pezvose, vapari vemhosva havasi kutengeswa.
Ndizvo zvazviri munyika yose kuti sangano remagandanga rinogona kuvapo chete nerubatsiro, mune chero chimiro, kubva kuvanhu vemo.
Ndinotsunga kutaura, ndichitsigirwa neshamwari yangu, muBhudha akatiza kuMalaysia, kuti hurumende yeMalaysia inotsigira vanoita zvechisimba nekuda kwezvikonzero zvavo ( land grab ).
Uye kana ari maMuslim kune imwe nzvimbo muThailand, vasati vatarisana nedambudziko retsika rekuita sarudzo, hongu ivo havasati (zvichiri) kukurudzirwa nechisimba.
Zvisinei, chii chinoitika kana magandanga asingatarisiri akatanga kushanda munzvimbo idzodzo?
Uye usaite chikanganiso, ndiko kutya kwehurumende yeThai.
Ndataura izvi, zvechokwadi ndinoshamisika kana Thailand ichinyatsoda chiKristu mumhando dzayo dzezvimiro nehukuru.'
Chii chakawedzerwa kukosha kwechiKristu muThailand.
Kune, zvinosuruvarisa, kukamukana kwezvamatongerwe enyika kwakaringanira, kukamukana pakati pamapoka edzinza, uye kunoratidzika kwandiri kuti kumwe kukamukana mumarudzidziso hakusati kuri madikanwa chaizvoizvo.
Uye nhoroondo yakaratidza kuti kutapura kwechiKristu munyika kunenge nguva dzose kune njodzi nokuda kwekubatana kwenzanga nechitendero kuripo.
Izvo zvinoshandawo kuIslam, nenzira.
Wadiwa HansNL,
Pandima yechipiri yemhinduro yako (inotanga na "asi" ichipera ne "kusatengeswa nevapari vemhosva"), unonyatsofunga here kuti kana vanhu varipo, mapurisa kana mauto achabatsira zvakasimba kuronda vapari vemhosva nekudzivirira kurwiswa, zvekuti vanhu ivavo havangatarisiri kutsiva?
Magandanga haadi rubatsiro kutsvaga zvinangwa, kazhinji zvinonyatso zivikanwa, sezvivakwa zvechikoro, chipatara kana vakuru vakapfeka yunifomu,
Muganhu uri pakati peThailand neMalaysia haugone kudzorwa, saka unogona kudzokera nekudzoka usina kukanganiswa.
Ndinotsunga kutaura kuti vanhu vari kumaodzanyemba kweThailand vari kugara vachitya, kana vakabatsira hurumende, hupenyu hwavo uye hwemhuri dzavo hausisina chokwadi.
Iwe unotaura kuti magandanga haagone kuita "basa" ravo pasina tsigiro isina kunanga kana yakananga kubva kuvanhu, izvi zvinoshanda kune ese magandanga akaitwa kana achaitwa pasi rese, senge Mitambo yeOlympic muMunich, 1 iri pachena. muenzaniso, asi kune mazana avo.
Chirevo chako chekuti hugandanga, pasi rose, hunogona kuvapo chete nerubatsiro rwevagari venzvimbo, ini pachangu ndinoona ndiri mupfupi.
Nezve "ivhu rekutora", iyo inyaya yakaoma kwazvo, Malaysia inotaura kuti Thailand yakaitora, boka revaMuslim vanoda kuzvitonga, boka revaBhudha rinoda kuramba riri chikamu cheThailand, icho chichamira kwenguva yakati rebei, pamutengo weboka gurusa ravagari vemo rinongoda bedzi rugare nechengeteko.
Hurumende zvirokwazvo iri kuita zvese zvainogona, mukati mesimba ravo hongu, kudzivirira hugandanga kubva kupararira, ona, pakati pezvimwe zvinhu, kutonga kwenzira yekuenda kuPhuket.
Kwazisai,
Lex K.
Mangwanani akanaka,
Vanhu kutenda kuri mumoyo mako nemumusoro mako.
Uye izvo zvinobuda mauri, muzviito zvako.
Izvi zvinogona kunge zvakasiyana kune wese munhu.
Mukuda munhu wese anodana amai vake, mwari, maria, mohammed kana ani zvake.
Zvinotenderwa kutsoropodza, asi mumwe nomumwe ngaaite izvozvo kune zvake kwete kune mumwe munhu.
carlo
Sezvineiwo, kutenda kunoiswa pauri pakuzvarwa.
Gare gare unozoona kuti chitendero chimwe chezvisakiso zvakaipisisa zvechisimba.
Kutenda kwangu ndekwekuti chinhu chose chinouya panyika chakagadzirirwa kupa hupenyu kune chimwe chinhu.
Zvakaipa Thailandblog ichateerera kune izvi nekuti iyi ichave hurukuro isingaperi.
Dananai muwande mutsara wandinoda, zvishoma unoti usaite unzenza.
Kuunza humwe hupenyu mubiki rinoita sechinhu chisina muprista pabhawa rangu.
Mubvunzo unoramba uripo wekuti Buddhism chitendero kana mararamiro, mushure mekufamba kwakawanda muAsia ini handisati ndazvinzwisisa. Chokwadi ndechekuti chiBhudha chinoshivirira chiKristu, izvo kazhinji zvisiri izvo neimwe nzira.
Machechi mangani munyika ino? Mazana nevose vanofunga kuti vanamwari wechokwadi! Saka unoona kuti izvi zvakangogadzirwa nevanhu kuti usakwanise kubvuma kuti mushure merufu hapana chakasara! Uye nhamba yevanhu vakafa pamusana pehondo dzisingaverengeki dziri pakati pevatendi vose ivavo ihuru! Buddhism inoshivirira, asi haisi chitendero chechokwadi!
Zvakaipa kwazvo kuti maKristu kana chero ani zvake anoona zvakakodzera, kana kuti "ona mukana" wekutumira mamishinari.
Ko vatendi vakasara (vechero kutenda kupi) vachazoona kuti kutenda chinhu chaunoita uri pachivande uye chaunosiya nacho vamwe vari vega chero zvakadaro.
Ndave ndichigara muno muThailand kwemakore zvino uye handisati ndambosangana nomuBhudha ainzwa kuti zvakanga zvakakodzera kana kuti akaedza kupwisa “musingatendi” uyu kuti akanga akarurama. Kutenda ndiko netsanangudzo "kusaziva chokwadi". Uye isu tinofanira, pamwe chete nemumishinari Martin Visser, kuzviona sechimwe chinhu chakanaka icho sezviri pachena maKristu eThai anotogutsikana kupfuura maKristu echiDutch kuti vamwe havana kururama.
Sei vanhu vakaita saMartin Visser vasingakwanise kunakidzwa nekutandara kwavo nevanhu vane pfungwa dzakafanana pasina chikonzero chekuratidza vamwe mwenje uye nekumanikidza chokwadi chavo pavari.
Zvinonzwisa tsitsi kuti pamwe vakadzidza zviri nani uye vakazvimiririra kufunga vanhu vekuMadokero vanotsoropodza chitendero uye vanoona kana zvichiri kuenderana netsika yavo.
Chokwadi chokuti vatendi “vatsva” muThailand vachiri kubvuma “shoko raMwari” se“chokwadi” noupofu hachipupurire kuzvitutumadza kunoshamisa kunoramba kuchiita vatendi uye kwavanoda kugadzirisa nyika kuti ienderane nemafungiro avo.
Sei zviri izvo kuti maneja webhangi kubva kune nyaya yaMartin Visser achinyara zvakadaro? ? Ko idzo dzose dzinoziva zviri nani, hunhu uye dzinorambidza zvitendero zvakambounza chero chinhu chakanaka kupasi, chero chinhu kunze kwekukakavara, hondo, kusaenzana uye rusarura kubva kune zvese zvinotsauka uye zvinoedza kufamba zvakasununguka?
Sezvineiwo, kona inonakidza kuita kubatana neThailand nechinyorwa chakadaro
Mukupindura kune zvese zviri pamusoro. Ndinofunga kuti muporofita Johane akatonyora kuti hapangavi nekutenda pasina kupokana.
Uyezve, mashoko okuti “endai muwande” ndiwo manyuko makuru enhamo. Tiri kuenda kune vanhu vanosvika mabhiriyoni manomwe pasi pano. Izvi zvinodarika mabhiriyoni 7 kupfuura zvakanakira pasi rino rine urombo.
BramSiam.
Ndinofunga kuti Johane akanyora, kutenda kusina mabasa akanaka kutenda kwakafa
Mitemo mikuru miviri yebhuku rebhaibheri inoti; Ida Mwari kupfuura zvose uye muvakidzani wako sezvaunozviita
iwe pachako. Kudai murairo wokupedzisira waizoitwa zvishoma, pasi rino raigona nyore
kutakura vanhu mabhiriyoni manomwe.
Amai vangu vakanaka vekare vanoremekedzwa vakazvidzidzisa kare kare: Usambofa wakapokana nezveChitendero uye Zvematongerwo enyika. Saka vadikani munhu wese ngaave mukukodzera kwake uye amise nhaurirano iyi isina musoro. Mushure mezvose, tiri kutaura nezveThailand uye kwete zvechitendero kana zvitendero mune chero.
Lex K inotsanangura chatinofanira kunyatsotya: fundamentalism, kuti izvi zvinozviratidza sei muSouthern Thailand. Marten V isser anofanira kuverenga chidimbu ichi nekungwarira uye ona izvo 'mission' inogona kutungamira. Kuzivisa shoko renyu nechisimba.Anoedza kutengesa 'nzvimbo yake yakachengeteka' kuvanhu vari kutsvaka mufaro, nounyoro. Islam ichine nzira, sezvo maKristu aiishandisa makore anosvika 1500 muSouth America. Izvi hazvisi kuzopera zvakanaka.Kudzivirira Thailand kubva kune ese ekunze pesvedzero, mundima yechitendero, ndinofunga chinangwa chiri nani uye chine kukosha kwepamusoro. Zvirinani kana ukaisa simba rako muhushumiri hwakapfava.Sezvineiwo, vasingatendi havagone kutanga, sezvandinotsanangura mumhinduro yapfuura. Pane chinhu chinofanira kuitika ipapo.
Kushambadzira chitendero pasi rose kunofanirwa kutorwa semhosva kune vanhu - uye kune vanhu - uye kunofanirwa kucherechedzwa saizvozvo. MaKatorike akaenderera mberi nekuuraya maKristu biyake (anonzi maPurotesitendi) - chave chinhu chekare - uye vaMuslim vanonyanyisa zvekuti vanozviuraya - zvinosuwisa kuti ndezvemazuva ano - ava vari pedyo ne (kupedzisira asi kwete zvishoma. ) kuurayiwa kwevaJudha - zvakanaka mienzaniso yakakosha yekusashivirira uye rusaruro. Zvakapesana nokushivirira kwevaBhudha. Iwe unofanirwa kugara kure neuzivi hwake hwehupenyu - hakusi kutenda muna Mwari. Ndakakatyamadzwa pandakatanga kunzwa kuti mamishinari echiKristu aivako aitoshanda muThailand. Vanoshinga sei! Gara kure neThai! Chengeta maonero ako enyika achibatanidza kutenda kwako kwauri, sezvinoita maBhudha uye (neimwe nzira inoitawo vaJudha; vaJudha vanozviona sevanhu vakasarudzwa vaMwari, izvo zvisingavaiti kuti vave vaapostora zvikuru).
Nekuda kwerudo maKristu akauraya madzinza ese asiri echiKristu; MuKristu ane kodzero yei yokutaura? Ndingangombundikira zvishoma zverudzi irworwo rwerudo here? Ndinogona here kupokana nenyaya yekuti kutenda kwehumhondi kwakadaro kuri kumanikidzwa paBuddhist Thai? Kuti nemhando dzese dzeblah blah zvekuti hapana nyanzvi inogona kubuda muhuro yake. Ndingangoshandisa pfungwa dzangu here? Kubva ipapo -kudzima pfungwa kunouya kunyanyisa. Kana uchitenda, hautendi here kuti Mwari vakandipa pfungwa dzangu? Zvakanaka, nepfungwa iyoyo uye nesainzi inobuda mairi (semuenzaniso, yaDarwin) ndizvo zvandichaita nazvo. Kunyanya muhupenyu hwangu hwekushamwaridzana. Kunzwisisa ndihwo hwaro hwehunhu, kwete kunyanyisa uye kutenda kwevapostora.
Wadiwa William
Ndakarava chinyorwa chako nengwariro huru, uye chaizvoizvo ini (ndinenge) ndinobvumirana newe chose chose.
Kusimbisa kwaunoisa paChikristu kwakarerekera divi rimwe chete.
Islam ine zvakawanda, zvakanyanya "kutendeutsa"
Chisimba chakanyangarika mudzidziso yokutendeutsa yamaKristu.
Asi zvirokwazvo kwete kubva kuIslam.
Kana chiri chechiJudha, chitendero ichi chiri uye chakaremerwa nezvitendero zviviri zvakabuda muTorah, nemigumisiro inosanozivikanwa.
Zvisinei, chinhu chimwe chine chokwadi, kubvira makore 2000, uye zvichida kare kare izvozvo, chiJudha hachina kutambura nekutendeutsa.
Mukupesana, edza kuva muJudha.
Uye zvino ndiri kutarisira kuti mapoka achandiwira uye achatanga kuparadza Israeri.
Asi nyatsoverenga zvandakanyora.
Sezvineiwo, ndichiri kufunga kuti, kana munhu achishumira Mwari, ukama naMwari inhau yomunhu oga.
Panguva iyoyo kana mumwe munhu atanga kupindira nayo, unofanira kufunga zvakaoma.
Somunhu asingatendi kuvapo kwaMwari, ndinoona kumanikidza marudzi ose echitendero pane chimwe chinhu chisingadikanwi zvikuru. VaKristu havadzidzi munhoroondo here? Havana kutokonzera nhamo munyika here? (Ireland, Child Abuse, Africa kungodudza zvishomanana) Kuita kuti mamishinari atungamirire musha wevana kwakaipa chose mumaonero angu. Indoctrination muvana vadiki, Shame!!!!
Marcel, ndichiri kuyeuka kuti pazviteshi pakanga paine zvikwangwani paidhindwa mutsara nemavara akakora, matema-tema: “Kutuka kunodzidzwa”.
Muchina wekupfapfaidza wemifananidzo wakanga wamwaya pamusoro pawo nemavara makuru: "Namatawo".
Ah, kuchema kwokuchenjera kwakadini!
Akanaka, graffiti sprayer nekuseka uye pfungwa yechokwadi! Munhu ari pamwoyo pangu!
Ini ndinochidawo!
Sekuona kwangu, zvechitendero inyaya yomunhu oga yausingafaniri kunetsa vamwe nayo. 'Basa', kuedza 'kushandura' - inofanira kurambidzwa …………..
Kufanana nekukurukurirana kwese pamusoro pekutenda, iyi inogona kuenderera nekusingaperi, asi inonakidza yekutevera.
Ndinotsigira zvizere jekiseni rinopesana nechitendero chatinofanira kuwana.
Ita kuti vaite tsvakurudzo pamusoro pazvo.
Uye wozoiisa mupasuru inotogashira vacheche zvakadaro
Maitiro anopikisa chitendero ane simba muruzhinji. Izvi zvinotaura zvakawanda pamusoro peDutch kunyanya. Inenge 80 kusvika ku90% yevanhu vanotenda mune chimwe chitendero. Ndizvo zvave zvichiitika kwemazana emakore. Mukana wokuti chimwe chezvitendero 2.000 XNUMX zviri munyika yakarurama unoratidzikawo semuduku kwandiri. Kunyanguvezvo, kudikanwa kworudzidziso ivara romunhu mupasi rose. Mupfungwa iyoyo, kutaura kwacho (uko kwakanyatsodzika midzi) hakuna kururama kwokuti munyengetero unodzidzwa. Zvinoita kunge zviri mumagene edu. Vanhu vanowanzonamata kune simba rekuyananisa ravasinganzwisise.
Ndakaverenga nyaya yacho kakawanda uye handisati ndachinzwisisa. Pazvikonzero zvipi izvo Marten Visser anotumira izvi? Iye mufundisi, achimiririra chechi yeChikristu, nekuti sekuziva kwemunhu wese kune mazana eakasiyana, ndoda maAmerican mazhinji. Chirevo cheChristian Information Platform chinojekesa kuti Cip chikamu cheBoekhout inodhindisa imba.
Boekhout Publishers mudiki akazvimiririra wechiKristu muparidzi wemabhuku ezvidzidzo zvebhaibheri uye zvinyorwa zvemimhanzi.
Boekhout Publishers yakazvigadzirira chinangwa chekuisa mabasa ose akabudiswa pamusika pasina purofiti uye nemutengo wakaderera. Mabhuku anofanira kuva nemharidzo yakajeka inodaidzwa kurarama kumbiri yaMwari, Baba vedu vokudenga.
Imba yekutsikisa yave kuzivikanwa nekuburitswa kweiyo Spurgeon yakatevedzana, iyo kopi inofanirwa kuoneka kota yega yega, uye yero mimhanzi uye zvinyorwa zvinyorwa.
Gore rega rega tinoita zvinyorwa zveevhangeri zvakanaka zveIsita neKisimusi kune dzakasiyana siyana dzeevhangeri.
Boekhout Publishers iri kushandawo muchikamu chemichero nemiriwo ine zvinyorwa zvakasiyana. Dzvanya pano (www.agf.nl) "
Cherechedza. Musanganiswa wakanaka pakati pekukurudzira kwemamishinari uye kutengesa kwemaruva nemichero.
Hapana chakaipa pazviri pachezvazvo, asi zvimwe zvezvaakataura munyaya yake hazvina musoro. Sevazhinji vevaverengi kumwe kunhu, varume vechidiki vakangwara vakapfeka zvitema vakaona vechidiki vechiThai, kunyanya vakadzi, mumugwagwa kana mupaki, vachiuya, voita hurukuro uye vopa bhurocha. Wim van Beveren akatonyora kuti izvi zvinotungamira kupi.
Zvinyorwa zvishoma pane zvirevo:
5. VaKristu vechiDutch vakatsiga.
Hupenyu huri kuoma muThailand. Matambudziko emhuri nemari akakura uye anooneka kupfuura muNetherlands. Izvozvo zvinotaridzika sei? Ndinofunga kuti imwe pfungwa yechishanu yasara imarara.
4. Machechi eThai madiki.
Kana makereke mazhinji ari madiki kuita basa, rega.
3. MuThailand, Chechi iri kukura.
Izvozvo zvinoratidzei? Padanho rechina unoratidza kuti makereke haachagone kushanda.
2. Chechi yeThai inobvuma simba reShoko raMwari.
Kazhinji iyi blog inonyorwa nezve Thai tsika. Usatenda kuti mumwe munhu anogara mutsika yakasiyana zvachose anogona kugadzirisa, relive kana chero zvazvinodaidzwa, anogona kuita 360 dhigirii kutendeuka. Funga nezvenhoroondo yemamishinari nemamishinari muAfrica, pakati pevamwe, apo munguva pfupi vatendeuki vakatendeuka ndokuvauraya vose (Mau Mau).
1. Chechi yeDutch haizivi maitiro.
Mashoko asina kururama. Funga nezvazvo sekirabhu yenhabvu. Kana pasina anoda kujoina zvakare, unofanira kukanzura.
Ndakatarisa saiti yaMarten Visser ndikawana chinyorwa ipapo chine musoro unoti "Ouweneel akanyepa nemaune". Iwe hauzive zvauri kuverenga.
Chandisinganzwisisi ndechekuti vanhu vakadzidza munguva yatiri kurarama, ingava yebhaibheri, masvomhu kana kuti munozviziva kuti chii, havasati vaona kuti havasi Mwari vakasika nyika nezvimwe zvakadaro, asi kuti munhu akasika Mwari .yakasikwa, nebopoto rose rakauya nazvo.
Chidimbu chinovhenekera chekumashure. Ndatenda neruzivo. Mhedziso yekupedzisira "munhu akasika mwari" 100% inobvumirana.
Tinogona zvechokwadi kutarisira kuti Mr. Martin Visser anoverengawo maitiro echinyorwa chake uye anouya pakutendeuka uye anosvika pakunzwisisa kuti "hapana ari kumirira "basa" rake. Zvakare/zvechokwadi kwete muThailand.
SemuDutch, anogona kukwanisa kuisa simba rake mukuvhara zvakasara zvemakirabhu aya, kunyanya muNL, uye kuisa pfungwa pachikamu chemichero nemiriwo pamwe chete nemuparidzi Boekhout.
Musiyano pakati pekereke muNetherlands neThailand:
Ndakaona kuti mune imwe chechi muThailand inobvumirwa kuseka (chero bedzi chikamu chikuru chiThai).
Ndichaverenga nemacomments. Ndinofunga kuti kune maronda akawanda ekare apa neapo.
Chitendero chiri chose chinotaura nezvehama, asi chinoparadzanisa chaizvoizvo.
Ndinoramba ndichiremekedza chero chitendero asi ndinoramba kana ndikabvunzwa.
Kune hupenyu mushure mekufa, iwe uri chikamu chese. Kuti uchasangana nazvo uchiri mubvunzo uye dzimwe nguva chishuwo.
Mukuru wangu wandaida akati:
Kutenda kwako muna Mwari kunongova kutiza kubva kuhupenyu hwako husingafadzi, hupenzi uye hwehutsinye.
Jiddu Krishnamurti
Chitendero ipfungwa yakaomeswa nechando yemunhu yavanovaka nayo temberi.