Kukanganisa kutaura muThailand?
Pandakabva pamusha ndichiri jaya ndokupinda muuto reMugungwa, ndakasangana nevakomana vaibva muNetherlands yose. Zvechokwadi, vanhu vanobva kuAmsterdam vaiva nemiromo mikuru uye vakapomera Limburgers uye Groningers kuti vakanga vasinganzwisisi nekuda kwekutaura kwavo.
Ini, akaberekerwa muTwente, ndaitaurawo mutauro uye kunyange iwe waiedza kutaura "neatly", zvaigara zviri pachena kuti ndine chirevo chinoshamisa. Izvo zvakagara zvakadaro, nekuti gare gare uye dzimwe nguva kunyangwe izvozvi, munhu anogona kunzwa kwandakabva Twente, kunyangwe ndisina kugara muTukkerland kwemakumi emakore.
Musiyano uripo pakati pemitauro miviri kana mitauro miviri inonyanya kuve mumanzwi anoshandiswa kutaura chimwe chinhu. A Tukker anoshandisa kurira kwakasiyana pane, semuenzaniso, Thai, dunhu kana nyika-yakananga, isu tinoti, asi icho hachisi chokwadi zvachose. Ndichadzokera kune izvozvo.
Kutaura kunouya nyore kuvanhu vazhinji, asi unofanira kuyeuka kuti hapana kufamba kwemhasuru dzemunhu kwakaoma kana kunyangira semafambiro erurimi anodiwa kugadzira manzwi emutauro. Kubatana kwemhasuru mururimi, muromo wemuromo, mapapu nemiromo izvo zvinodiwa pakutaura inzira yakaoma.
Zvakapesana - kunzwisisa izvo mumwe munhu anoti kwauri - zvakare zvakatonyanya kuomarara pamashoko. Chishamiso chokuti unokwanisa kunzwisisa zviri kutaurwa nomumwe munhu kwauri pasina kuedza. Anofambisa muromo wake uye rukova rwekukanganisa runouya mumhepo uye unonzwisisa zvaari kureva kutaura.
Izvo zvakaoma sei kunzwisisa izvo chaizvoizvo zvinova pachena kana iwe ukadzidza mutauro wokumwe. Ikoko kunouya nhanho yekuti unoziva mazwi akati wandei uye unogona kutevera chinyorwa chakanyorwa kana kudzokororwa zvishoma nezvishoma pasina matambudziko makuru. Asi vakurukuri vane ruzivo rwokuzviwanira pavanongotanga kutaura newe, unenge wava mudambudziko. Vanogona kungotaura mashoko aunoziva, asi matauriro avo anonzwika semanzwi akareba, asingatsananguriki. Iwe haugone kana kunzwa panotanga izwi uye rimwe rinoperera. Zvinoita sokuti vanhu vokune dzimwe nyika ivavo vanonamatira mashoko ose nemitsara pamwe chete.
Kuita uye kunzwisisa manzwi ekutaura, muchidimbu, ibasa rinenge risiri hunhu. Munhu ane njere angafunga kuti hapana angaite kuvana vake voita basa rakadaro. Uye zvakadaro zvinoitika zuva nezuva. Marudzi ose, marudzi ose enyika akashandisa mutauro nguva dzose uye vanotarisira kuti vana vavo vadzidze kunzwisisa nokutaura mutauro iwoyo vachiri vaduku.
Vana vadiki kwazvo vanogona kuziva uye kuburitsa manzwi emutauro wavo. Kunyange vacheche vachangoberekwa vanoratidzika kuva vanokwanisa kunzwa musiyano uri pakati pomutauro wavo waamai nemanzwi omumwe mutauro. Vakadzidza izvi kuburikidza nekutamba, pasina chero dzidzo yakajeka, pasina bvunzo uye pasina nguva yekudzidziswa pasi pekutungamirwa nenyanzvi. Zvisinei nekuti vanhu vanosiiwa sei nekushungurudzika kubva paudiki hwavo, hapana anombogunun'una nezvenguva inotyisa yavakasangana nayo nekuti vaifanira kudzidza rurimi rwaamai kubva kuvabereki vavo, nguva yese iyi.
Nekuti mutauro, chero mutauro, wakaoma zvisingatsananguriki, kwete zvakanyanya kana toreva nezvekunyora negirama, asi kunyanya kana totaura nezvemanzwi. Chero mutauro kana mutauro unowanzo kuomera zvakanyanya kune vanhu vakuru vekunze kuti vadzidze: chizvarwa chinogara chichinzwa kuti hausi chaiye akazvarwa uye akazvarwa anogara nemataurirwo. Asi, ndichazvitaura zvakare, mwana anodzidza hurongwa nyore nyore, zvisinei kuti chikoro uye vabereki vanoita sei vachipokana nazvo.
Tsananguro yeizvi, inopiwa nesayenzi yephonological, ndeyokuti mwana anoberekwa ane pfungwa dzakawanda mumusoro make pamusoro pekuti mutauro wake wekuzvarwa ungave wakafanana sei. Icho chinonyanya kukosha chikamu chemuchina chatova muhuropi hwechidiki. Zvese zvaunoda kuti uite kuisa mabhatani mashoma munzvimbo chaiyo. Kuchinja mabhatani aya kunogona kungoitika nyore kusvika pakuyaruka, mushure mezvo kunonoka. Mwana iyeye anotanga kuseta mabhatani achiri mudiki. Pane zvinotoratidza kuti kudzidza mutauro kunotangira mudumbu. Chero zvazvingava, vacheche vachangoberekwa vanoratidzika kuva vanokwanisa kusiyanisa manzwi avo pachavo neayo emitauro yokumwe nekubudirira kune musoro. Kare vasati vatanga kutaura, vakatodzidza chimwe chinhu nezvomutauro wavo.
Ndakambotaura kuti mutauro kana mutauro kazhinji une manzwi chaiwo awakadzidza kubva paudiki. Zvakananga hazvirevi kuti zvakasiyana, nokuti zvinokwanisika kuti manzwi anobva kune mumwe mutauro anowanikwawo mune mumwe mutauro. Mushure mezvose, kune mazana, kana asiri zviuru, emitauro nemitauro munyika ino. Muenzaniso wakanaka weiyi surname yangu Gringhuis. A "gr" yakakweshwa kubva pahuro pakutanga uye musanganiswa wemavara "ui". Rega mutorwa ataure izvozvo uye iwe uchanzwa akasiyana anopenga. Zvakadaro mutauro unobata manzwi iwayo, nekuti muSaudi Arabia, pakati pevamwe, zita rangu raidudzwa zvisina mhosva. Uyewo funga nezvezwi rokuti Scheveningen, iro risingatauriki kune vakawanda vatorwa.
Isu, vatauri veDutch, tinonetsekawo nemamwe manzwi mumitauro yekunze. Ingoona mataurirwo ari nyore ekuti "th" mumutauro weChirungu. Iri kutaurwa nerurimi pamazino, asi kazhinji "d" kana "s" inotsiviwa. "Izvo" zvinobva zvaita "dat" kana "kugara". Kune mimwe mienzaniso yakawanda, asi ini ndinoda kutaura nezve "kukanganisa kutaura". Tairendi have.
Icho hachisi chirema chekutaura, asi Thais haakwanise kana kutadza kutaura mamwe manzwi emusanganiswa wemavara nekuda kwezvikonzero zvataurwa pamusoro apa. Izvo "th" uye "sh" hazvigoneke kwaari, saka chitoro "Theo's Shoes" chinova "TO-Choo" zvakanyanya. Pane zano rekuti Thai rinorevei ne "wonn-wor"? Haazive V, saka rinova W, iyewo haazive “l” sebhii rekupedzisira rezwi robva razova “n”. Chokwadi, anoreva Volvo. Tora "Au bon pain", iyo American sandwich shopu, yaunowana zvakare muThailand. Iye zvino muAmerica pachake ane dambudziko nezita iri rechiFrench, asi mataurirwo echiThai haapfuuri "Oh-Pong-Beng".
Chero ani anodyidzana nevanhu veThai anoziva mienzaniso midiki yezvisingabviri-kutaura-mazwi. Imba inova hou, mudzimai anova wai, mashanu anova fai, kana iwe uchida kunwa waini chena, muThai anokumbira wai wai, nezvimwewo. Ita kuti muThai ataure madhesiki kana kunyange miriwo iri nani, hazvigoneke!
Andrew Biggs akanyora chinyorwa chakanaka nezve chipingamupinyi chekutaura cheThai muBangkok Post, kwaanonyanya kutaura nezve kushanya kuIKEA. MuNetherlands tinoti "iekeeja", muRungu anoti "aikieja" uye wekuSweden - nyika yekwakabva IKEA - anoidana kuti "iekee-a", asingaregi kuti yekupedzisira inzwike. Mumotokari, Andrew akaona zita iri mumutauro weThai uye iro rakashandurwa nefonetiki kuChirungu rakava "Ickier". Zvinosekesa ndezvekuti izwi iri rinoreva kuti “zvisingafadzi” kana kuti “chinyakare” kuShona. "Ini" pamberi pezita zvakare hazvireve zvakanyanya kunaka mumutauro weThai, saka IKEA anogona kunge ari munhu anonzi KEA asi munhu asinganakidze.
Yave nyaya refu kutsanangura kuti sei muThai achiwanzoita zvirevo "zvinosetsa" zvemutauro weChirungu munzeve dzedu. Sezvineiwo, muThai anogonawo kuseka dzimwe nguva kana mumwe munhu akaedza kutaura izwi rechiThai nemazvo. Kuseka kunobvumirwa, chero bedzi kuchiitwa noruremekedzo nokuda kworurimi rwomunhu ari wose uye hakusati kuchirondedzerwa semhinganidzo yokutaura.
Mutauro? Zvinogara zvichinakidza! Ndichiri kushamiswa pandinoona vanhu vaviri vasingazivikanwi vari pamwe chete, vachipopotedzana zvakasiyana-siyana. Mumwe anotaura uye mumwe anoteerera uye oshamisika, iye anonzwisisawo! Chishamiso chechokwadi!
NB Kwechinyorwa ichi ndakashandisa zvinyorwa kubva mubhuku "Tongval" naMarc van Oostendorp, iro rinogona kuwanikwa paInternet uye chinyorwa naAndrew Biggs muBangkok Post yaZvita 4, 2011
Chinhu chinosuruvarisa pamataurirwo echiThai emutauro weChirungu ndechekuti vanofunga (uye vanodzidziswa kuchikoro) kuti mataurirwo akaita sekuti "taxiiiiiiiii" ndeyechokwadi uye kuti mataurirwo akaita se "taxi" haana kunaka. Saka izvo zvinoenda mberi zvishoma pane kukanganisa kutaura.
Chang Noi
Ndinogara pedyo nechikoro uye ndinogona kunyatsotevera zvidzidzo zveChirungu ipapo kubva paveranda rangu. Uye dzimwe nguva ndainzwa zvakashata nemataurirwo evadzidzisi. Naizvozvo hazvishamisi kuti vadzidzi vanowana izvi kubva mazviri.
Ndinodzidzisa vana vekuno kumusha kutaura mutauro wavo nechiRungu zvakajeka uye nemazvo.
Chris, ndaifanira kuvarova zvakanyanya!
Pano iwe unogona zvakare kuona kuti veThai havangofungi chero chinhu, ndinofunga. Ndinonzwisisa chiThai-Chirungu uye ndinogara ndichifunga nezve zvinogona kurehwa nemanzwi. Ndichiri kuThailand ndakanzwa kushambadzira paredhiyo paredhiyo yeThai mutekisi. Ini ndakanga ndisati ndanzwisisa chinhu uye zvese zvaive blah blah blah kwandiri. Kamwe kamwe ndinonzwa kuburikidza ne blah blah:
sek-sie-sie-toeeeee (sexy see through lingerie). Ndakanzwisisa kuti kushambadzira kwaive nezvei :p
Ndinonetseka zvakanyanya nemutauro wepano uye zvakare nekunyora chiDutch. Asi kunyangwe netoni diki yakapotsa, ruzha kana tsamba, Thai anoramba akanditarisa, zvakakomba asi senge handisi kunzwisisa uye ndinomirira kusvika ndanzwisisa. And patience yavanayo but by nature haatangi seni hmmm, anonzwika? Munhu wacho angave achirevei? Nyama, kusangana, ne, kupenga ...
Ndinowanzoitawo mhosho yekuvadzidzisa zvisina kunaka. Ini ndinofambidzana nechiThai-Chirungu, maidai/handigone, “hapana vane” pachinzvimbo chekuti “Havana”. Zvakaoma uye zvine musoro panguva imwe chete nekuti kana ndikasashandisa hazvidikanwi kwavari. Kana mumwe munhu achida chaizvo kudzidza mutauro weChirungu, ini ndichatsanangura. Havana kana kushandisa mamwe mazwi, uye kana vanga vasati vatova neshoko, vanoshandisa infusion ye "strawberry". Sthaw-bè-ieeeee, aroi mak mak!
Ndava kunzwisisa kuti hapana chandainzwisisa. Zvese zvakasiyana pano! Isu tinofunga maererano neaiwa iwe unayo uye hongu unogona kuwana. Vane hongu uye kwete-hongu kana kwete-hongu. maichai, maidai... Bhatani remwenje radzimwa pano sezvaringave richiita kuHolland, remaswichi bhatani riri kuresa nderechiedza chiri kuresa, chinopesana newachi unogona kuona zvakawanda uye hongu mutauro wacho hausi nyore sewe. haigoni kunzwisisa kufunga uye nzira.
Gringo zvirokwazvo, kazhinji chishamiso! Uye zvakare akanaka kwazvo, kana musikana wangu achiti "chai" nenzira yandinonzwa uye kwete kungonzwa.
Ah shit ndine urombo nekuda kwemavara marefu, ingoverenga mitsara haha ok thanks!
Anodiwa Gringo,
SeNorth Limburger, ndaigara ndichifunga kuti Amsterdammer ine / ine chinetso chekutaura. Ingonzwa murairidzi wechikwata cheAmsterdam, uye chiratidzo chekirabhu yayo, iyo ABN inobuda mumiromo yavo. Iva uye urambe uchidada kuva 'Tukker', zvakare muThailand, uye usamboramba kwaunobva.
Ini ndinofunga tsananguro yako yakagadzirwa zvakanaka nezve mataurirwo echiThai muChirungu. Mubvunzo mumwe, mingani mitauro yepamutemo inotaurwa nevanhu muThailand?
ps. mukadzi wangu anobva kuSalland, anombomedzawo tsamba, haha.
Dick C .
@Dick: Ini ndinofunga Thai chete pachayo ndiyo iri pamutemo. Chero mamwe marudzi matauriro kana kuti zvimwe mutauro wekuyambuka. Unogona kuwana mimwe mitauro chaiyo asi kwete "yepamutemo".
PaABN waisatombonzwa kuti munhu anobva kupi, pamwe? Kana kune yakanaka ABN.
Tiri kutamba neAarsenal zvakare here? hahaha
Kutaura nekukunguruka 'r' chimwe chinhu icho Thais ari kumaodzanyemba anoziva zviri nani kupfuura kuchamhembe nekumabvazuva. Ingoteerera kuti mumwe munhu anotaura sei sapparot (sappalot) uye iwe unotoziva kwaanobva.
Ini handisi kuzotaura kuti chiTenglish imhinganidzo yekutaura, asi zvinosuwisa kuti inodzidzwa. Ndaiva nemudzidzisi akanaka wechiThai, aidzidzisawo Chirungu kuThais. Kunyangwe ainyatsoziva mataurirwo echiRungu maererano nezvinonetsa, akaramba achitaura nekudzidzisa mataurirwo echiThai eChirungu, apo kushushikana kunogara kuchiwira pasyllable yekupedzisira. Hazvizivikanwe kuti sei zvakadaro, nekuti izvi hazvisi izvo zvachose nemashoko echiThai. Pamwe isarudzo kuratidza kuti izwi rechirungu.
Uyezve, zvinosuruvarisa, nekuda kwekirasi system, Thais anowanzo kutenda vadzidzisi vavo. ChiRungu sezviri pachena hachigone kutaura mutauro wavo nemazvo, nekuti adjaan yangu yechiThai inoti zvinofanira kuitwa zvakasiyana. Izvo zvachose kunze kwemubvunzo kuti munhu wechiDutch aizoziva zviri nani.
Nenzira, unoziva here mubvunzo uyo muThai muchitoro cheThai muLondon anodaidzwa nemukomana wake wechiRungu nezve resipi ine bhinzi refu (tua fak yaw, kana kungoti "fak"). Anobvunza muchiThai kana varipo muchitoro "mee fak yoo"? Anobva apindura neTenglish "yes, mee fak yoo, futi"
Ndinoziva joke, asi haisi yebhinzi refu, asi nezvemuchero-wakaita semuchero, unowanzo shandiswa muto.
Semuenzaniso, ABT inotaurwa mukushambadzira, panhau uye mumakosi ese eThai.
iyo ร inotenderera R uye kwete L.
kana iri sarudzo yekutsauka kubva ipapo, unogona kutaura kuti inyaya yemutauro.
Kune vazhinji Thais haisi sarudzo, nekuti havagone kutaura iyo R kana vachida.
wobva wataura pamusoro pekutadza kutaura.
Mhoro Gringo, sewe, iniwo ndine mauto emugungwa angangoita makore makumi matatu nemashanu, saka ndinoziva zvakawanda nezveDutch Navy, ndakaenda neFLO pandakanga ndiri makumi mashanu uye saka, sewe, ndinoziva maitiro ekuita dzakasiyana-siyana (Dutch) dialects , nyaya yakanaka, saizvozvowo, ini pachedu ndinofunga kuti isu hatisi venyika, iyo, zvisinei, haigoni kutaurwa pamusoro pevanhu vakawanda veThai mumaonero angu, kwavari inokurumidza kupera pamusuwo wepamberi, kwete kuti iite. taura nezvemiganhu yenyika, nekuti kunze kweThailand hapachina chinhu. Ndavewo nekunakidzwa muThailand nemudiwa wangu kwemakore mashanu. Kwaziso kubva kuPattaya
Hans.
Ndinofunga kuti ichi chinyorwa chakakosha kuziva. Ndiri kuitumira kumuzukuru wangu anga achigara muThailand kwegore zvino uye ari kuedza kudzidza kutaura mutauro wechiThai.
Pandinonyora webhusaiti yangu: http://www.toscascreations7.com vanoshuma pano kuti hazvina basa, weird.vr.gr. Toos
Hi Gringo,
Tave tichigara muThailand kweanenge makore 3 1/2 ikozvino, asi isu hatisi kuwana zvakawanda kupfuura proating tukkers,
Runako rwacho…” anogara neboka rose reTukkers pamwechete, saka ndiani anogona kunzwisisa mumwe nemumwe zvakanaka", uye chakaipa pamusoro pacho ndechekuti isu hatisi pakati peThais uye saka tinofanirwa kutora kosi, asi zuva rega rega nezve 2 kana 3 mazwi uye zvichienda mberi zvishoma nezvishoma, dzimwe nguva mutsara unobuda, unova wakakwana weThai, saka unoenda zvakanaka! asi ndizvo chaizvo zvaunotaura, idzo shamhu refu pakupera kwemutsara dzinoita kuti useke dzimwe nguva.
ps. Pandinoenda kunotora meseji ndoiita muchiThai, mutengesi anogara achindipindura neChirungu! uyewo nokuti zvichida vanodada kuti vanotaura mutauro weChirungu?
Iwe une pfuti yakanaka yechidimbu chako icho, tora chipfuwo changu kwandiri.
gr.Ria Wuite
Waita Ria nemazwi akanaka, ndinokuda iwe zuva rose uri wega, saka?
Imba yako iripi muThailand? Uri kuenda kupi kuTwente?
Shamwari yangu yepamoyo yaive neWuite, Hans wekuAlmeloo! Gosh, chii chandingadai ndisina kumboona chandingadai ndakachema muno muThailand uye ndiine hutano hwakawanda sezvandatova nemakore akawanda! Kunyanya kuipa, iwe hausisiri nesu uye unotarisa kubva pamuti kusvika kune muti.
Ini ndinongoda, Ria, ndinongoti: enda!
Shamwari yeThai, muno muHague, yakambondikumbira kuti ndiende ku'ABBETAI',
Mushure meimwe 'kufunga' ndakaona kuti aireva Albert Heijn.
Iye achiri kududza zita iro, senge kekutanga, uye nemamwe mazita ini ndinowanzo netsekana pamusoro pezvaanoreva chaizvo, izvo zvinogara zvichisetsa!
Nenzira, ndagara mukati nekukomberedza The Hague kwemakumi emakore akawanda, asi vanhu vachiri kunzwa kuti ndinobva 'kuTukkerlaand'.
Goân! (matwenti e: Rombo rakanaka!).
Kunoramba kuri kunzwa kunosetsa, musikana wangu wekare akaramba achiti ikkeja, hongu aireva Ikea, nekuti ndaifanira kuseka pese paaitaura kudaro, ndinofunga airamba achitaura zvisizvo,,,,
Chidimbu chakanaka!
Sespeech Therapist handikwanise kuramba kupindura.
Pamusoro pekutonga kwa r. Kune zvakawanda zvakasiyana zveizvi muNetherlands. Iyo rolling r, inodudzwa nemuromo werurimi, gurgling r, kubva kumashure kwehuro, aya ndiwo mataurirwo maviri echiDutch akarurama ekuti r. Iyo r inofanira kukunguruka. Chero chinobva pane izvi chinogona kunyorwa sechipingaidzo chekutaura. Saka kuti weird Gooise r haana kururama! Asi ndinoziva vanhu vanobva kuGooi uye vasingagone kuburitsa r, husimbe, usimbe kana kushaya dzidzo? Hapana chimwe chazvo, kugadzirisa. Mutsvaki wekupotera ane matauriro? Ipapo iwe unobva waziva kuti kuNetherlands kwaakatora zvidzidzo zvake zvechiDutch.
Kana ndikanzwa mumwe munhu muThailand achiita nepaanogona kunditsanangurira chimwe chinhu, saka kuteerera kwakanaka, ziva kuti muThai munogona kungove nemakonzonendi mashoma pakupera kwezwi uye funga pamwe chete nezvinorehwa nemutauri. Mutauro wakanaka!