Chirevo chevhiki: 'Thailand inofanira kuchengetedza matsotsi ekunze'
Vhiki rino pane nyaya mubepanhau pamusoro pemumwe muRungu uyo, zvisinei nemutongo wakamiswa mujeri, anotenderwa kuenda kuzororo kuThailand.
Murume uyu, akatongerwa mwedzi mitatu akamiswa mujeri nekuda kwemhirizhonga uye kurova, anofanira kuramba achiudza mapurisa emunharaunda kwegore rimwe. Vekupedzisira vapfaviswa zvishoma nedare. Mhombwe, uyo asina kubatwa kekutanga nekuda kwemhirizhonga yeruzhinji, anotenderwa kupedza zororo rake muThailand. Akanga abhuka zororo iroro asati apara mhosva uye mutongi akatonga kuti murume wacho aisafanira kurangwa kaviri nekanzura yemari. Vepanhau vepano muThailand vangangoyambira mapurisa nezviremera nezvemurume uyu.
Mumwe wandaizivana naye akarohwa mumusoro nebilliard cue svondo rapfuura pabhawa paWalking Street (na5am, doro mumurume, nezvimwewo) nemuSweden zvekuti akarohwa nehana uye moyo unobuda ropa. yakanaka kune 25 stitches. Mupari wemhosva, wokuSweden, uyo akanga ambosangana nemapurisa pamba kare, zvakaitika kuti akabva Thailand achienda kumusha zuva raitevera.
Thailand inofanirwa kurambidza aya marudzi enhamba uye inogona kuzviita zvichibva paImmigration Act, iyo inoda Humbowo hweMafambiro Akanaka kubva kune anonyorera mavhiza enguva refu. Shamwari yangu yaigara kuItaly yakandiratidza izvi, izvo zvakanyorwa pawebhusaiti yeThai Embassy muRome. Nekudaro, hapana chinhu pawebhusaiti yeEmbassy muNetherlands uye ini pachangu handisati ndambowana chikumbiro chekuendesa Humbowo hweKuzvibata Kwakanaka pakunyorera vhiza.
Saka chinyorwa ichi chinofanira, mukuona kwangu, kudzoserwa. Ani naani anonyorera vhiza paEmbassy anofanira kupa 'Certificate of Good Conduct', iyo inoratidza kuti ane rekodhi yemhosva yakachena.
Ini ndinozvidza chinzvimbo changu, nekuti ndinoziva vanhu vakati wandei muno muThailand vane rekodhi yemhosva, vakashanda mutongo wavo uye vava kugara munyika ino se "murume akanaka".
Chii chinogadzirisa?
Ndinofunga kuti "uchapupu hwemufambiro wakanaka" hunoenda kure.
Ndinoreva kuti, pane kurwiswa kwakavhurika uye kune kurwiswa kwakanyanya, kunogona kuve punch imwe chete, asi kunogona kuve kurova kwakanyanya, zvese zvinowira mukurwiswa.
Ndakaroverawo mumwe munhu kure kure, pasi peziso remapurisa, uye ipapo ndakapiwa mutongo une ganhuriro nokuda kweiyo nguva yokuedzwa. Kunewo vanhu vakaita zvinhu zvakaipa zvikuru, asi vasina kumbotongwa nokuda kwavo. Uye vanofanira kubvumirwa kuenda chero kwavanoda.
Zvimwe unofanira kutarisa mhosva dzakakomba dzakadai sekuuraya, kuedza kuuraya, kubata chibharo, makororo, vatengesi vezvinodhaka, nezvimwewo, asi hongu, avo ndivo vanhu vandisingafungi kuti vanofanira kuva nerusununguko zvachose, asi iyo imwe nyaya.
Varume.
Kana zvichifanira kudaro kuti matsotsi haagamuchirwe muThailand.
Ipapo hapazove nevakawanda vanosara 50% vanogona kubuda muchando zvakare.
Asi yeuka kuti ivo havana kumira pakati pechikamu chikuru chevagari veThai.
Tinovagamuchira zvakadaro uye hativadzinge.
Huwori nemhirizhonga zvinhu zvakajairika munyika muno.
Saka zvisiye wega Netherlands uchifara kuti vaenda.
Uye munyika ino unofanira kuramba uchizviona portatively, hauzombozivi kuti munhu anogona kuchinja sei.
Ramba uchitarisira nguva dziri nani.
Zvakanaka, iwe wakatopa mhinduro iwe pachako!
Gringo akanyora kuti:
Ini ndinozvidza chinzvimbo changu, nekuti ndinoziva vanhu vakati wandei muno muThailand, vane rekodhi yemhosva, vakashanda mutongo wavo uye vava kugara munyika ino se "murume akanaka"
Muchidimbu, zvisina maturo!
Kana uchinge wapedza mutongo wako, haungambozonyorerazve visa chero kupi zvako, sezvaunoisa chinzvimbo chako.
Mutongo wapihwa, rekodhi remhosva harimboperi.
Hazvigoneke, chero bedzi uchikwanisa kutenga zviito zveutsotsi zvinorangana nezvimwe muThailand nedhipoziti kukero yasekuru mumiririri…………
Weird statement Gringo.
Ndeipi pfungwa yako chaizvo? Ndiani anganyanya kukanganiswa nematsotsi edzimwe nyika? Ini ndinofunga munzvimbo yekutanga ivo Thais ivo pachavo. Ndakaverenga nokutendeka mishumo yenhau yaDick, asi handiyeuke izvi zviri munhau nguva pfupi yadarika. Saka haisi mhenyu kune yekuzvarwa Thailand.
Ndinofunga kuti nyaya yemuRungu muenzaniso wemutongo wakanyatsofungwa nedare rechirungu. Murume uyu achazvichengeta pazororo rake muThailand. Kana zvisina kudaro, achabatwa muno muThailand uye zvakare muEngland nekuda kwemutongo wake wakamiswa.
Chasara ishamwari yako yakarohwa musoro nebhidhiri. Iwe unofanirwa kunzwa nyaya yakadai kubva kumativi maviri kuti ugone kutaura chimwe chinhu chine musoro pamusoro payo.
Muchidimbu: Chirevo chechinhu. Rombo rakanaka nguva inotevera.
Icho chirevo, ..pamberi peiyo zvakare mhinduro.
Zvinofanira kurambidzwa kuti nzanga yeThai igare nevanhu vakadai, matsotsi ese,… vanouya pano nemari yavakawana kubva kumabasa ehutsotsi uye vachipambadza mari yematsotsi muno muThailand.
Kunze kwekuti isu hatifanirwe kufunga nezve izvo vanhu ava (matsotsi) vangaite kuvanhu veThai, ini zvakare ndinofunga Thailand haisi kufara nezvinhu zvese izvi.
@ Gringo , uri kutaura nezvei ?
Chirevo chaGringo chinoita sechakavhiringika, asi mushure mekufunga nezvazvo kwechinguva, ndinogona kunzwisisa kusafara kwake.
Kana mumwe munhu achitoratidza [hukasha] hutsotsi munyika yake, sei munhu iyeye achiita 'pussy' muThailand?
Edza kupinda muUS kana uine rekodhi yemhosva. Nei zvichibvira ikoko?
Kana kuti purogiramu inotaura nezvetsika dzeAustralia panhandare dzendege, apo vanhu vanofanira kuratidza kana vane rekodhi remhosva.
Kurwa hakushande, nekuda kwechikonzero chimwe chete akadaro Gringo. Zvinogona kunge zviri izvo kuti [mukuru] tsotsi muThailand anoda kutanga patsva se 'murume akanaka'. MuThailand [kana imwe nyika ipi neipi] haazivikanwi uye anogona kusiya zvakaitika kare.
Asi iwo, kazhinji adiki, manhamba anogona kuomesesa [kutevera muenzaniso weAustralia].
IMHO.
Nyika dzese dzinofanirwa kuita izvozvo, asi hazvigoneke. Kana chete maererano nekugona uye kuda kuchinjanisa ruzivo nezve vanhu. Rarama mutemo wekuvanzika unotambira mumaoko ematsotsi.
Pamusoro pezvo, ndizvo chaizvo zviverengero izvi zvinounza shanduko yakawanda uye ndizvo zvazviri munyika.
Ini ndinobvumirana zvachose nechirevo. Izvi zvinofanira kubatanidza vatorwa vane misikanzwa zvikuru. ( Kurwa / Kubata Kukuvadza / Kuba / Scam
Mukati mekugara kwangu kwamakore mashanu muUdonthani, inozivikanwawo navanhu vazhinji vechiDutch, kazhinji kazhinji yakanga isiri pamusoro penyika, inopenga zvikuru somusuo. Nekudaro, zvakare vanhu vakanaka uye vakasimba.
Kwete kusungwa nerudzi.
Chirevo chaifanira kunge chiri: "Kamwe mbavha, inogara iri mbavha?"
Iwe hausi tsotsi kusvika wabatwa nemhosva. Kana wabatwa nemhosva, unowanzo pihwa mutongo uye kana wangozadzisa mutongo iwoyo, hapana chinofanira kumisa nzira yekuti urarame hupenyu hwakajairika. Mitemo munyika dzakawanda inobva pane izvi.
Panogona kunge painewo vanhu vazhinji vasina rekodhi yemhosva vanogona kuita misikanzwa. Ndoita sei nevanhu ava? Kana vanhu, vane kana vasina humbowo hwehunhu hwakanaka, vakaita misikanzwa kune imwe nzvimbo, iyo inyaya yemapurisa emunharaunda. Iye achafanirwa kuita chiito, shure kwezvose, izvo ndizvo zvakarongerwa muviri uyu.
Chandisinganzwisise munyaya yacho ndechekuti vanhu sezviri pachena vaiziva kuti muSwede aive tsotsi rematsotsi. Kana ndikasangana nenyaya ine matsotsi ari kufamba-famba, ndinotenderera mugwagwa. Ingori nyaya yehungwaru. Sezvinei vamwe vanhu vanoshaya izvo wobva wakumbira nhamo, kana sepanyaya iyi, kuvharirwa muhuro.
Chirevo chinotevera: "Kudzivirira kuri nani pane kurapwa?"
Nehurombo ini handisi kubvumirana nezvinhu zvakaitika munyika yako uye zvisingatarisirwe kugamuchirwa muno muThailand, Kana wakambopika mutongo kana kuti wanga uchiongororwa munyika yako, hazvina chekuita nekuenda kuzororo kune chero nyika. zvakare munyika iwe wakave nemutongo wako uye haufanirwe kusarura nekuda kweizvozvo, asi ini ndiri kufarira vanhu vanoda kugara muThailand kwekugara kwenguva refu kana zvakanaka kuti vape humbowo hwehunhu hwakanaka nevisa. Chikumbiro chinogona kupa humbowo hwemari, ichi chatova chokwadi chekuti munhu anogona kuvaka hupenyu muThailand pasina kupinda mumatambudziko emari, munhu wese ane kodzero yemukana mutsva, muThailand ichokwadi kuti kana wapara mhosva mushure mekutongwa kwako. anodzingwa kubva munyika uye akanzi haana grata,
Kwaziwai.
Pascal
Handifunge kuti unogona kutaura kuti unofanirwa kuve nerekodhi yakachena yemhosva kuti upinde muThailand. Ipapo kuchava kwakanyarara muPataya ndinofunga.
Hazvitore zvakawanda kuti uwane rekodhi yemhosva
Semuyenzaniso. Wakamboba chimwe chinhu muchitoro chakakosha maeuro matatu kana mana
Iyoyo imhosva.Unobatwa uye unenge wava necriminal record
Rezinesi rako rekutyaira wotorerwa wodzokera kumba muchivande, unenge wapara mhosva
Uye une mhosva here
Pinda muhurongwa hweaimbova mukuru wako. imhosva. zvichingodaro.
Uye izvozvo zvinogara kwemakore makumi matatu
Iwe haufanirwe kuita zvinhu zvakadaro, ndinoziva, asi kana izvo zviri zvikonzero zvako
Hazvibvumirwi muThailand.
Ipapo unoziva kuti vanhu vane mhosva diki yakadaro vanobvumidzwa kupinda
Ndinofunga kuti kunenge kusingabviri kutsvaga
Usaite maonero angu
mhosva diki dzinotenderwa, izvi hazvireve kuti kana rekodhi yako yemhosva isina kujeka unorambwa nguva dzese.
Ndine vhiza regore rimwe uye ndinofanira kupa uchapupu hwetsika dzakanaka gore negore uye izvozvo hazvindinetsi.
MuBelgium, zvirango zvako zvichabviswa mushure meimwe nguva, uye iwe unogona kutanga zvakare nehupenyu hwakanyarara kana kwete!
Moderator: Siya mhinduro yaunonyora kuti unobvumirana here kana usingabvumirani nechirevo uye nei.
Moderator: Ko kutaura kwako kunei nechekuita nechirevo?
Ndinoshamiswa kuti vanhu vakapiwa vhiza pasina kupiwa ufakazi hwomufambiro wakanaka. Ikozvino humbowo ihwohwo hunoreva kana iwe wakambotongerwa mhosva kubvisa chero mhosva isiri iyo (ndingafunga kuti zvine musoro). Chero zvazvingava, ndakatongerwa—munguva yebasa rechiuto uye papomero dzenhema—mazuva 14 okusungwa zvakasimba, pashure pacho ndakasunungurwa pamberi peDare Repamusorosoro Remauto (HMG) ndokupiwa zororo remwedzi mitanhatu rokuripa. Ndakanga ndichiri nemwedzi mitanhatu yasara uye saka ndaigona kusiya basa nekukurumidza "kwete nekuda kwekuremara kwemuviri kana kwepfungwa". (Hazvina kutaurwa kuti sei). Rangarirai, mhosva yaipomerwa yakaitika muna 1960. Pamusoro pezvo, ndakanga ndagamuchira mutongo wakabatanidzwa waanenge mazuva 100 echiedza uye kusungwa kwakaipisisa, asi nokuda kwe'mhosva' dzinongova mhosva ndiri mubasa (bhatani rasunungurwa, bvudzi rakasununguka. kureba, nezvimwewo). Uyezve, ndaizivikanwa kumakadhi se "mutengesi" uye "communist". Zvinoita sezviri kutaurwa pakutaura kwangu kwenyaradzo, uye hazvina musoro, kunze kwekuti pamwe ndakanga ndambotaura zvekupokana neNazi. Mukupera kwema50, muuto maive nekufunga kwevatema nechena: maGerman aida "isu" kumisa maRussia, "saka".
Sezvineiwo, ndakanga ndava shasha yekunyora zvichemo. Chero mumwe musoja aikwanisa kuuya kwandiri uye kana kunyunyuta kwake kwainge kwakakodzera - kazhinji kacho - ndakanyora chichemo chake. Pakupedzisira, ndakanyorawo chichemo munyaya yangu (chichemo ichocho chakarambwa, chandisina kugutsikana nacho, uye naizvozvo ndakaguma ndava kuHMG).
Zvisinei, makore gare gare apo ndaida kutamira kuThailand zvechigarire, ndakaudzwa kuti ndaida ufakazi hwomufambiro wakanaka. Uye ndakawanawo chitupa changu chemufambiro wakanaka, ndichibva ndanyorera kumumiriri weThailand kuti ndiwane vhiza rekurega basa. Kusvika parizvino hapana chakakosha. Asi ipapo akanga asingadi kundipa vhiza pamuzinda iwoyo, kwete vhiza rokurega basa uye pashure pokushanya kakawanda ndipo paakagamuchira vhiza 'ramazuva ose'. Ndakasimbirira kuti ndaida retirement visa and nothing else; kuenda kunotamira kune dzimwe nyika mwedzi mitatu iri kure, asi kubuda munyika mwedzi mitatu yega yega kuti ndigare, ndakafunga kuti zvakanyanyisa uye hazvina musoro (kusiya kuti ugare, uyo anouya. nechinhu chakadaro?). Uyezve: kana wangobuda, zvinogona kureva kuti pakanga paine matambudziko ekudzokera mukati zvakare.
Kufungira kwangu kubva ipapo kwave kuti haungobvumirwi kubva kuNetherlands zvachose kana iwe wakanyoreswa neBVD neine negative note (ikozvino inonzi AIVD uye ihombe huru ikoko). MaThai haatore chero njodzi. Gwai rine gwapa igwai rine utachiona. Pakupedzisira, ini, kutsungirira, ndakakunda. Kwete kusvika mushure mekunge ndashanyira mumiriri weThai kane gumi nemaviri. Zvakatora mwedzi. Nguva yese iyi vaichengeta passport yangu. Ini handina kutaura chero chinhu pamusoro pazvo, kuti ndirege kukanganisa mikana yangu, asi kuti ivo - avo Thais ipapo - vakaita izvozvo, hongu ndingadai ndakadonha.
Sei ndiri kutaura nyaya iyi? Zvakanaka, nekuti ini ndinonzwawo kuti matsotsi ane mukurumbira haafanire kuwana Thailand. Kuti vanowana sei vhiza yavo (uye rudzii rwevhiza) handizive. Hazvigoneke kuti vapfumi ava (im) vanhu vabhadhare mari yakawanda, asi zvakare: Handizive. Mhombwe chairo angangozivawo kutora pasipoti yekunyepera (kwete ini) uye anogona kupinda muThiland nenzira iyoyo.
Chandinoziva ndechekuti ane vavariro dzakanaka, nyangwe matanho ari pachena anogona kudzosera kumashure. Haisi ipapo matsotsi chaiwo anotorerwa rusununguko rwavo rwekufamba, asi (somuenzaniso uye kunyanya) avo vanhu vakaita rekodhi neBVD, alias iyo AIVD. Hapana kutonga kunokwanisika pakirabhu iyi (uye zvakare - ndinotaura nezvemishumo nezvayo mumapepanhau eDutch) inyonganyonga (uye iyo - inogona kufungidzira - yanga iri kwenguva refu).
Moderator: Zvese zvinonakidza, asi zvine chekuita nemhinduro ine musoro kune chirevo.
Ndinobvumirana nemashoko.
Ini pachangu, ndinofarira kuda humbowo hwehunhu nehunhu.
Zvisinei, haifaniri kunge isina chinhu.
Nyika inofanirwa kupihwa mukana wekusarudza, pahwaro hwehumbowo uhwu, kana zvirango zvinowanikwa zvakakomba zvakakwana kuti zvigone kuramba.
Zvadaro ngazvishande munzira dzose munhu anopinda nadzo munyika.
Hazvina musoro kuda humbowo kune mumwe munhu anoda kugara kwemwedzi mitatu kana gore, uyezve asingade chero chinhu kana zvine chekuita nekugara kwemazuva makumi matatu.
Sokunge munhu iyeye achaita zvakasiyana mumazuva makumi matatu iwayo. Zvakasiyana ndingati.
Iyi iwaranti uye dambudziko ragadziriswa here?
Hongu kwete, uye hazvizombodaro.
Hakusi nekuti hauna "kubatwa" uye saka uine jira rakachena, kuti iwe hauna mhosva pachako, asi zvinopa nyika mukana wekurambidza vanhu vane njodzi kana kuti vanoziva kuti kana vabvumidzwa, kune vanhu vanofamba. kutenderedza nekuwedzera njodzi maitiro.
Sezvazviri ikozvino, Mr Moderator, matsotsi anopinda muThailand saizvozvo uye vanhu (seni) vachipomerwa zvenhema izvo zvakavapa chinyorwa chisina kunaka (kwete kunyangwe pane yavo yakachena rekodhi rekodhi) sezviri pachena vanorambidzwa. Chinyorwa changu chemhosva chakacheneswa nekuda kwechimiro chisingabvumike chemhosva; kwaiva kupomerwa kwenhema. Zvakanaka, ndinotenderwa kurembera nekudzipa muThailand (asi handityi kubuda, nekuti ipapo ndingatadza kudzoka). Mhedzisiro iyi - yekuti munhu asiri iye anotongwa - inowedzerwa kana vanhu vakateerera zvakanyanya. Zvinobva zvatowedzera kuyedza kutaura: iye haana rekodhi rekodhi panguva ino, asi pakanga pachine chimwe chinhu - chimwe chinhu chisina kujeka - chaiitika naye. Vanoona kuti zvinotyisa.
Mhosva diki, iyo yakajeka: hapana chakaipa, hapana mhosva zvachose, asi pakanga pachine chimwe chinhu chisina kujeka: iwe ucharambidzwa.
Kusvika padanho: kana chiyero (kana imwe gwara) zvichireva chimwe chinhu, kunyangwe iwe uchitsigira icho chinangwa, chinogona kunge chiri chirambidzo kungoita icho chiyero kana gwara upofu.
Kana dai mutungamiriri akawana zvese izvi (zvakare) zvisina basa, asi zvichiri kunakidza: mhosva yangu (ndakanga ndiine makore makumi maviri nematatu panguva iyoyo) ingadai iri yekuti ndakanga ndaita rudo kune mumwe munhu - maererano nezera - baba vangu vanogona kunge vari. Handifaniri kufunga nezvazvo; Pfungwa dzako: Ndinogona kuzviita, asi ndicho chimwe chinhu. Zvichakadaro, kupomerwa mhosva haisisiri mhosva, ichokwadi. Kwete zvachose muThailand.
Nyaya yacho haina zvakawanda zvekuita neThailand. Ndinofunga kuti matsotsi anogona kurambidzwa kwose kwose, asi zvinosuruvarisa kuti hazviitike mukuita. Avo vakabatira mutongo wavo vakasununguka zvakare uye vakaenzana navamwe maererano nemipimo yedu.
Zvinoita sezvakanaka, asi hazvisizvo. Kana iwe ukadzidza recidivism, unosvika pamhedziso dzinokatyamadza. Avo vanhu vakapedza mitongo yavo vanoburitswa munzanga, kwavanogona kuita vanyajambwa. Ndizvo zvakarongwa nesu. Matsotsi anekodzero yemukana wechipiri (uye wechitatu nechina). Kunyange zvazvo Thailand isingavadzivise, hurongwa hwechirango hweThai hwakaomarara hunoita kuti vadzivise, zvekuti vanotuka vazhinji vanochengeta chimiro chakaderera pano uye zvechokwadi vanounza mari.
Matsotsi anoimba ari pasi zvishoma apa nekuti anobatwa zvine hutsinye uye anodzingwa munyika ne blacklist, kana red card. Kunyorera chitupa chekuzvibata kwakanaka kwevhiza kunogona kuve mhinduro, uye izvi zvave zvichikurukurwa kwenguva yakareba, asi ndinofunga zvichanyarara zvakanyanya muPattaya.
Muna 2003 ndakatokumbirwa kuti ndipe humbowo hwerekodhi remhosva risina chinhu. Ndakazviwana, asi zvakanga zvisati zvakwana. Iye zvino chimwe chezvinhu zviviri: kana iwe haugone kupinda muThailand pasina humbowo uhu, kana ivo vanoita kusarudzika (kunyangwe kana kusada) kumutemo wekuti hapana humbowo hwehunhu hwakanaka hunodiwa. Lee Vanonschot.