VaDutch vari kuramba chitendero

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22 October 2018

Kwenguva yokutanga, ruzhinji rwechiDutch haruzvirangariri rumene rutivi rweboka rorudzidziso. Muna 2017, isingasviki hafu (49 muzana) yevanhu vane makore 15 kana kupfuura vakashuma kuti ndeveboka rechitendero. Gore rakanga rapfuura iyi yakanga ichiri hafu uye muna 2012 vanopfuura hafu (54 muzana) vaiva veboka rechitendero. Izvi zvinoonekwa kubva kunhamba nyowani kubva kuStatistics Netherlands kubva kuSocial cohesion uye kugara zvakanaka kudzidza.

Muna 2017, 24 muzana yevagari vechiDutch vane makore 15 kana kupfuura vaive veRoman Catholic. Kupfuurirazve, 15 muzana vakanga vari vaPurotesitendi: 6 muzana vakaratidzira kuti vakanga vari Dutch Reformed, 3 muzana Reformed uye 6 muzana vakati vaiva veChechi yePurotesitendi muNetherlands (PKN). Mukuwedzera, 5 muzana vakanga vari vaMuslim gore rakapera uye 6 muzana vakaratidzira kuti vakanga vari veboka rorudzidziso ‘rimwe’, rakadai sechiJudha kana kuti chiBuddha.

Kupinda kumisangano yechitendero kwakaderera zvishoma kubva muna 2012

Kutora rutivi muminamato yorudzidziso kwakaderera nokufamba kwenguva, kunyange zvazvo kuderera kwacho kwave kusina kukurumidza kudaro mumakore achangobva kupfuura aya. Muna 1971, 37 muzana yevagari vemo vaigara vachienda kumusangano wechitendero (kamwe chete pamwedzi), muna 1 izvi zvakanga zvadzika kusvika ku2012 muzana uye muna 17 kupinda kuchechi kwakawedzera kusvika ku2017 muzana.

Gore rakapera, 15 muzana yevanhu vanopfuura makore 10 vaienda vhiki nevhiki, 3 muzana vakaenda ka2 kusvika ku3 pamwedzi uye chikamu chimwe chetecho muzana chaienda kumusangano wechitendero kamwe chete pamwedzi. Uyezve, 1 muzana yakaenda isingasviki kamwe chete pamwedzi. Vanopfuura zvikamu zvitatu muzvina zvechiverengero chavagari vapasi (7 muzana) kashoma kana kuti kusambopinda minamato yorudzidziso.

Kudzikira kushoma kwevanopinda chechi kubvira 2012 kunokonzerwa nemaKatorike. Kushanya kuchechi kana mosque hakuna kuderera pakati pevaPurotesitendi nevaMuslim.

Vakadzi vanonamata zvakanyanya uye vakazvipira

Muna 2017, 46 muzana uye 52 muzana yevarume nevakadzi vaive veboka rechitendero, zvichiteerana. Pavakadzi vacho, 17 muzana vaipinda shumiro nguva dzose, uye 14 muzana yevarume. Kupfurikidza nokure vanobatanidzwa zvishomanene murudzidziso ipwere dzine makore 18 kusvikira ku25: mumwe muvatatu akanga ari weboka rorudzidziso. Paava vechiduku, 13 muzana vakaratidza gore rakapera kuti vaipinda minamato yechitendero nguva dzose.

Vanhu vakura ndivo vanonamata zvakanyanya uye vanobatanidzwa. Pavanopfuura makore 75, 71 muzana vakati vaiva vechitendero, uye 34 muzana vaipinda minamato nguva dzose.

Vanhu vakadzidza zvikuru ndivo vanonyanya kunamata

Dzidzo yakaderera nechitendero zvinofambidzana. Paboka raingova nedzidzo yepuraimari chete, 64 muzana vaiva veboka rechitendero uye 20 muzana vaienda kuchechi nguva dzose. Kune vezvidzidzo, izvi zvaive 37 muzana uye gumi nemaviri muzana.

22 mhinduro kune "VaDutch vanofuratira chitendero"

  1. Hans anoti kumusoro

    Zvitendero zvinoitirwa kudzvinyirira vanhu nenhema uye kutyisidzira. Zvinoshandiswawo kupesanisa vanhu nekuti chero vanhu vachirwisana, vatongi vanoramba vari kunze kwenjodzi. Sezvineiwo, vanhu vakawanda vari kutanga kuona izvi. Isu tose tiri varanda veinonzi democracy kana chero zvamunoda kuidaidza. Kwese kupi iwe unofanirwa kusiya chikamu chikuru chemari yako yawakawana uye paunoenda kuchitoro unogona kubhadhara mutero zvakare. bhadharai mutero pazvinhu. Kubhadhara kutarisira, nezvimwewo, nezvimwewo. Kana vanhu vasingachagamuchiri izvi ndipo patichava nerusununguko rwechokwadi uye hatidi zvitendero kuti zvidaro. Ndiani anotiudza mararamiro.

  2. SirCharles anoti kumusoro

    Kutaura idi, kunonzi kune chitendero chiri kukura, asi ichochi chinoitwa chinyararire nokuda kwezvikonzero zvakarurama zvematongerwe enyika

    • Rob V. anoti kumusoro

      Ndiudze ani? VaBuddha? Iwe dzimwe nguva unonzwa kuti izvi zvinonyanya kufarirwa pakati pevanhu vechiDutch. Asi maererano neStatistics Netherlands, izvi zvave zvingangoita 0,4% yevanhu kwemakore. Zvino maMuslim? 4,5 kusvika 5% kwemakore. Zvino kutenda kupi? Zvinoenderana neCBS, zvese zvakatsiga kana kuderera.

      Kana kuti uri kunyengerera nenhamba dze 'zvikonzero zvezvematongerwo enyika'? Zvingave zvinoshamisa kana pasina chakambobuda. Aiwa, pakutenda hatifaniri kutya kuti mamiriro ekunze aya achakanda gumbeze panyika yedu. Chinhu chakanaka, zvakare. Ndine bapiro rekuruboshwe sezvazvinogona, asi ndinokoshesa rusununguko rwemunhu, kuisa chinamato kune mumwe munhu kana zvimwewo hazvienderane nazvo uye kana zvikaitika, ratidza pachena murume nebhiza.

      Ona zvakatorwa pa:
      https://www.cbs.nl/nl-nl/achtergrond/2018/43/wie-is-religieus-en-wie-niet-

      • THNL anoti kumusoro

        Anodiwa Rob V.
        Iwe unogona kunge wakarurama kubva pakutanga, kana iwe uchizvikudza kuti ruboshwe chete rwakaunza iyo rusununguko rwemunhu, iwe uri kana kuti iwe unopa fungidziro yezvatinoti kuruboshwe-bapiro rascal uye kurudyi kwazadza homwe dzayo. Chimwe chinhu aimbova mutungamiriri wehurumende akaitawo pasinei nebhachi raakanga akapfeka uye mutauro waaiparidza.
        Uku ndiko kugezeswa kwepfungwa kwemushandi asingawire pasi nekutaura kweruboshwe.

    • RonnyLatPrao anoti kumusoro

      Ndinofunga kuti maitiro akafanana anoshandawo kuBelgium.
      Asi izvi zvinoramba zvakanyarara muBelgium nekuda kwezvematongerwo enyika.
      Kana kuti ndezve "zvikonzero zvezvematongerwo enyika"? 😉

      • Rob V. anoti kumusoro

        Ah, peni yadonha, tanga tichinzwa nezveIslamization kubva pakutanga kwezana rino remakore, asi mukuita kwave kusina kuwedzera kweIslam. Hongu, izvozvo hazvifanirwe kutaurwa nekuti hazvienderane nevezvematongerwo enyika vanotyisa ava.

        • RonnyLatPrao anoti kumusoro

          Iboka ripi rakaongororwa chaizvoizvo?
          Dzimwe nguva vanhu vanotaura nezvevaDutch vane makore gumi nemashanu kana kupfuura uye zvakare vanotaura nezvechiDutch.

          Kana iwe ukangotora maDutch, pachava nemusiyano mudiki kubva panguva yekupedzisira. Vanhu havakurumidzi kuchinjira kune chimwe chitendero kana chimwe chitendero.
          Kana iwe ukatora vese vagari veNetherlands, unogona kuwana akasiyana manhamba.
          Nhamba dzinoratidza zvese kana hapana.

          Asi hapana kuwedzera kwevaMuslim. (Ndinotaura kuBelgium).
          Zvirokwazvo. Uye izvo hazvibvi kubva kumaBelgians avo zvino vanongoerekana vava maMuslim.
          Numbers ? Handitombodi thermometer kuti ndizive kuti kunodziya muzuva kupfuura mumumvuri.

          • RonnyLatPrao anoti kumusoro

            http://www.standaard.be/cnt/dmf20160319_02191726

            https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religie_in_Belgi%C3%AB
            ChiIslam ndicho chitendero chiri kukura zvakanyanya munyika uye ongororo yakaitwa nePew Research Center inofanotaura kuti nhamba yevaMuslim ichakura kusvika pa10,2% yevagari veBelgian panosvika gore ra2030.[6] Zvichienderana nehuwandu hwekutama, ne2050 mugove wevaMuslim muhuwandu hweBelgian unogona kusvika 11,1% (zero migration), 15,1% (avhareji yekufamba) kana 18,2% (kutama kwepamusoro) maererano nekuongorora kwechangobva kuitwa nePew Research Center. 9]

            Zvichiri mamwe manhamba kubva ku2016 kuBelgium
            Gore Nhamba yeVaMuslim muzana
            1970 90,000[3] 0,9%
            1990 266,000[6] 2,7%
            2000 364,000[3] 3,6%
            2016 862,600[7] 7,6%

            • Rob V. anoti kumusoro

              Zvinoshamisa kuti Belgium haina nhamba dzepamutemo! Ndapota cherechedza kuti nhamba dzePEW dziri zvishoma padivi repamusoro nekuda kwehuwandu hwekuzvarwa. Muchokwadi, vakadzi veTurkey, Moroccan, nezvimwewo vane huwandu hwakafanana hwevana sevagari vemo. Asi vanhu vazhinji vanofunga uye kuverenga kuti nhamba yevacheche yakawandisa kune vaMuslim.

              Heano nhamba dzePEW dzeEurope, onawo huwandu hwekuzvarwa hwakakwirira (hwakanyanya kwazvo) hunotariswa:
              http://www.pewforum.org/2017/11/29/europes-growing-muslim-population/

              Mamwe ruzivo ona: https://twitter.com/kevinVcapelle/status/1054276869376434176

              Kana kuti ona mufananidzo waFlip une chiverengero che % maMuslim sehuwandu hwechiDutch hwese:
              https://twitter.com/flipvandyke/status/1054311882344071168

              NB: Zvakawanda nezvemwana tsunami zvisina maturo paFlip's saiti

          • Rob V. anoti kumusoro

            Statistics Netherlands (CBS) inongoshandisa nzira yekuyera/yegeji, zvikasadaro data racho raizove risina kuvimbika zvachose. Asi vezvenhau dzimwe nguva vanoda kurerutsa tsananguro kana dzimwe nguva kungovanzwisisa. Semuenzaniso, munhau 'vanhu vane Dutch nationality' vanowanzorerutswa kune 'vagari veNetherlands'.

            Hapana chandinoziva nezvechitendero neBelgium. Asi zvakaoma kufungidzira marudzi aya ebudiriro 'nekunzwa'. Semuenzaniso, huwandu hwekurambwa kwemavhiza eSchengen hwainzwa 'hukakwira', asi kana ukaona huwandu hunenge husina chinhu chekunyora kumba. Kuyera kuziva. Sezvakataurwa naPurofesa Hans Rosling (pamwe naArjen Lubach 2 makore apfuura), ndezvevanhu uye nhamba. Kuti unzwisise vanhu uye kubudirira unoda nhamba. Maonero akaita sezviverengero ndidzo nhema huru hadzina maturo kubva kuvanhu vasingade chokwadi kana mafambiro. Hapana kwavanoshanda pasina zvikanganiso, asi nenhamba kubva kuCBS, Eurostat, nezvimwe.

            Maererano neEuroBar (chikamu cheEurostat), nhamba yevaMuslim muBelgium yaive 2015% muna 5,2:
            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_the_European_Union

            • RonnyLatPrao anoti kumusoro

              Zvakare chiyeuchidzo.
              Ndingazvifarira kana ukadaidza nyika yangu Belgium uye kwete kunyomba kana kuzvidza Belgistan.
              Iniwo handiite izvozvo nenyika yako.

              Uye panguva ino unogona kuverenga nhamba.
              Uye ivo vanonyanya kubva pachikonzero chaicho chekukura kweIslam muBelgium, iyo inotama, kwete kuberekwa.
              Sezvandambotaura, haudi thermometer kuti uzive kuti mvura iri kufashaira.

              • Rob V. anoti kumusoro

                Zvakanaka Ronny, Belgium, jee rakapusa rangu rekuwedzera -stan mushure mezita kana uchitaura nezveIslamization.

                Asi PEW ine zviitiko zvitatu. Zvakare 1 pasina kutama (hazvisi kuzoitika), imwe ine kutama kwakajairwa (izvo zvatooma nekuti hazvina kurongeka, pakutanga kwezana rino rezana vanhu vazhinji vane hunhu hweMuslim vakasara pachiyero kwemakore mashoma) uye 1 ane hupoteri. peak 2014-16 (zvisingaite zvakanyanya mamiriro ezvinhu).

                Asi kune ese matatu mamiriro, kuberekwa kunobata basa, maMuslim vachava nevana kusvika 3. Kuti muMuslim iyeye anopesana neMuslim here kana kuti kwete. Nhamba yekuzvarwa kwePEW yakakwira zvakanyanya: “VaMuslim vanodarika mwero wekutsiva (kureva, mwero wekuzvarwa unodiwa kuchengetedza ukuru hwehuwandu) nepo vasiri maMuslim vasina vana vakakwana kuti varambe vakatsiga.” Haisi chokwadi. Mukadzi wechiMuslim haana vana vakawanda kudarika mukadzi wekuzvarwa uye kwatiri tese izvi zviri pasi peyero yekutsiva yevana 2050 (mukadzi wekuMoroccan chete ane zvimwe zvishoma):
                http://www.flipvandyke.nl/2012/01/babytsunami-onzin/

                Saka iwe unoverengera icho nechakanyanya chiverengero uye iwe hautombofungi nezve chokwadi chekuti maitiro ari pasi pese pese. Izvi zvinoreva kuti iwe unozopedzisira wakwira muna 2050 pane zvingangoita.

                Iwe unogona zvakare kuverenga nezve PEW mune imwe yangu link nezve Islamization "Semuenzaniso, mumuenzaniso wekuverenga wePEW Research, vanenge vanhu vese veIranian Dutch maMuslim, nepo isu tichiziva kubva kuCBS polls kuti izvi hazvina kunaka." Ndosaka ichiti panzvimbo iyoyo: “Kufanotaura nezvemugove wevaMuslim muvagari veDutch muna 2050 kunokurumidza kutambisa nguva. Chikamu chevaMuslim chinogona kuwedzera mumakore anotevera, asi nhanho iyo izvi zvinoitika zvinoenderana nezvakawanda zvinhu.

                Kufanotaura kwese kunofanirwa kutorwa nemhodzi dzinodiwa dzemunyu. Izvi zvinoshandawo kukufungidzira kwePEW Research, uko kwakavakirwa pafungidziro dzisiridzo. "

                Ndosaka ndichiti, yakanyatsogadzikana, pamwe ichiwedzera zvishoma, asi hapana chinotyisa. Kana zvinhu zvikatadza, tinogona kubva pa5% izvozvi kuenda pa10%. Inogonawo kugara 5-6%. Hatizivi. Asi zvirokwazvo kwete mamiriro ezuva rekuparadzwa umo 1/3 kana hafu yeNetherlands kana Belgium inouya pasi pejoko reIslam.

                Kuyera kuziva, kuona nhamba yevatendi (ndinozviona mumugwagwa zvakadaro) zvine musoro sevanhu vanotaura nyaya dzevisa uye dzekutama zvichibva pane zvavakanzwa kana kuona pane imwe nzvimbo. Saka zvakawanda zvisina maturo.

                • RonnyLatPrao anoti kumusoro

                  Iwe chete unofuratira iwo chaiwo manhamba uye anoita seanopfuura kusimbisa zvakafanotaurwa.

                  kuBelgium
                  Gore Nhamba yeVaMuslim muzana
                  1970 90,000[3] 0,9%
                  1990 266,000[6] 2,7%
                  2000 364,000[3] 3,6%
                  2016 862,600[7] 7,6%

                  Uye ndichazvisiya zvakadaro.

                • RonnyLatPrao anoti kumusoro

                  Nenzira, nhamba chaiyo yeBelgian vaMuslim haizivikanwi, sezvo kuverengwa kwechitendero kunorambidzwa muBelgium.

                  Chero nhamba dzauchaburitsa uye kutora sechokwadi, dzinopupurira zvisina maturo sevamwe. Zvakare izvo zvinonzi zvinoratidza kuti hakuna kukura.

                  Asi zvinoonekwa ...

          • SirCharles anoti kumusoro

            Nhamba yevaMuslim muNetherlands yakaverengwa zvakare uye munhu wose ari kufara: hapana chakaipa neIslamization!
            Zvisinei, Islamization inonyanya kunzi 'self-Islamization'. Inopfuurira isingadzivisiki, kwete nokuti inofanira kudaro, asi nokuti inogona.

            Pamusoro pezvo, manhamba haarevi zvakanyanya, zvematongerwo enyika zvinowanzoshanda semufananidzo wekuti vanhu vadzikame uye midhiya yakati wandei inofara kupa kune izvi.
            Iroro ndiro dambudziko chairo nekuti idzi hadzisi nhamba dzakaoma nekuti kubva 1994 tsika dzechitendero chevagari havachanyoreswa nehurumende.
            Tsvagiridzo iyi yakavakirwa pamibvunzo isina zvazvinoreva uye kwete chimwe chinhu chaunogona kuwana kubva mudura rehurumende mumasekonzi maviri.

      • SirCharles anoti kumusoro

        Vanhu vangashanyira nzvimbo dzokunamatira zvishoma uye zvishoma, asi izvozvo hazvirevi kuti vakawanda havachisiri vatendi, ivo zvamazvirokwazvo.

        • Rob V. anoti kumusoro

          Unoziva here chiri kuyerwa? Kupinda mumosque hakuna kumbochinja, kana nhamba yevaMuslim. Kuyera vatendi zvichibva pakushanya kune chivakwa chematombo kungave kupusa chaiko, unogona kuve nekutenda kukuru uye usambofa kana kumbopinda muchivako chechitendero.

          CBS inonyora kuti:
          “Kuenda kumachechi nguva dzose kwakadzikira nechikamu che2017 percent mugore ra0,8 kana zvichienzaniswa nenguva yose. Kudzikira kwacho kunokonzerwa nemaCatholic, uko izvi zvakadonha ne1,7 percent. Pakati pevaMuslim, kupinda mumasikiti kwaramba kwakafanana uye pakati pemapoka echiPurotesitendi chikamu chevanhu vanopinda minamato chakawedzera zvishoma.” uye "42 muzana yevaMuslim vanoshanyira mosque kamwe chete pamwedzi."

          Hazvina kunyanya kunakidza maererano nehuwandu hwevanamati kana kushanya kumosque. Asi iwe haugone kutaura zvakare kuti 'Islamization yeNetherlands' haina maturo, ipapo iwe unobva watora zita rekuti 'tarisa-mberi', 'kuzvivenga', 'kure-nesu'... zvematongerwo enyika?) zvakarurama kutaura kuti isu hatisi tichanyura pasi pemafungu evaIslam vanozove nesimba pamberi pekupera kwezana ramakore ...

          Mamwe manhamba:
          http://www.republiekallochtonie.nl/blog/achtergronden/de-islamisering-van-nederland-de-feiten

          Ini pachangu ndinofara nevatendi vashoma (vechero chitendero chipi), kazhinji ijoko, asi ndinodzivirira kodzero yemunhu wese kutenda kana kusatenda. Izvo zviri kumunhu, kodzero yemunhu. Uye zvino anofarira kuwira kumashure pane zviyero panzvimbo yedumbu.

          • SirCharles anoti kumusoro

            Nzwisisa zvaunoreva, Rob V. Sezvauchazozviwana zvichipenga apo vanhu vanotsoropodza kana kuti vane maonero akasiyana pamusoro peIslam, vanokurumidza kubviswa sefascist, racist, idiot yakarurama uye zvakafanana.

            • Rob V. anoti kumusoro

              Kutsoropodza kunofanira kubvumirwa, sezvinofanira kuita majee. Zvakare, zvisinei kuti kutenda kupi (kana kuti vasingatendi), asi sezvo zvisina kuitwa nevaKristu kwenguva yakareba, izvi zvichiri zvakaoma (kuzviisa zvinyoro) neIslam, pakati pevamwe. Mune mamwe madenderedzwa iwe unozonzi facist kana usingade kurambidza Piet...

  3. Jack S anoti kumusoro

    Pandakanga ndava nemakore 23 kekutanga muAsia, kunyanya muIndonesia, ndaiwanzobvunzwa kuti chitendero chipi chandaiva nacho. Panguva iyoyo (1980) zvaigara zviri nani kuve nekutenda pane kusava nechero.
    Pashure pokufamba kwemwedzi mitanhatu, ndakadzokera kuNetherlands.
    Ndakadzidzira ikoko ndokunyorera basa ndokuzoguma ndava kuLufthansa kuGermany. Pakupedza magwaro aidikanwa, ndakabvunzwawo pamusoro pokutenda kwangu, naizvozvo ndakazadza ikoku muzvokwadi.
    Pandakatambira muhoro wangu wekutanga kwapera mwedzi, ndakashamisika kuona Dm 85 yabviswa pamuhoro wangu nekuda kwe "Kirchensteuer".
    Ndaifunga kuti izvi zvave kuenda kure. Pandakabvunza, ndakawana kuti nzira bedzi yokuibvisa yakanga iri yokusiya chechi. Saka ndakazviita. Ipapo ndaifanira kuenda kuGroß Gerau, kwandaifanira kuita chikumbiro chepamutemo muchechi imomo kuti ndibvumirwe kubuda muchechi. Murume wandakataura naye akandiyambira kuti handingambofi ndakaroora muchechi kana kuvigwa muKristu. Ndakapiwawo nhambo yemwedzi mitatu yokufungisisa, mukati mayo mutero wechechi wakanyimwa zvirokwazvo.
    Ndaive nemakore 25 wechidiki ipapo. Amai vangu vakanga vachinetseka, asi shamwari youfundisi yechiDutch yakavavimbisa kuti: Ndakanga ndichirimo muNetherlands uye vakafungawo kuti kwakanga kusingabviri kuti nyika yeGermany ikupe mutero wakavakirwa parudzidziso.
    Saka ndave ndiri “muhedheni” kubva ipapo uye hazvina kumbokuvadza hupenyu hwangu.

  4. jacques anoti kumusoro

    Tiri kufamba munzira chaiyo muNetherlands. Imwe pfungwa yechokwadi inobatsira maDutch. Ndakararama semuhedheni hupenyu hwangu hwese uye handina chinangwa chekuchinja izvi. Kurarama maererano nemagwaro enhoroondo (Bhaibheri, Koran, nezvimwewo) hakusi kwangu. Nguva yengano yapera, ndakafunga, uye zvisinei nekuti nyika izere nezvivakwa zvinogona kunzi zvinoshamisa, zvinoramba zvakagadzirwa nevanhu uye hakuna mwari anobatanidzwa. Ndinoziva kuti kune vanhu vanoda kutungamirirwa uye kuhwanda seri kwekutenda. Zviri pachena kuti mutauro uri kuchinja muNetherlands. Kune imwe nzvimbo munyika tiri kuona kuwedzera kwezviitiko zvinovhiringidza zvikuru, zvichikurudzirwa nokutenda. Tarisa kuIndonesia nePakistan kudoma mashoma. Aiwa, nguva yecrusade inogona kunge iri nhau dzekare, asi tichava nedambudziko rakawanda mune ramangwana, nekuti pane chimwe chinhu chakakanganisika nevanhu vazhinji pasi pano.

  5. Cornelis anoti kumusoro

    Neraki, muNetherlands - uye zvakare muThailand - tine rusununguko rwakakwana munzvimbo ino. Kusiyana neIndonesia, semuenzaniso, uko ID yako inofanirwa kutaura imwe ye 'inogamuchirwa' - ndinofunga 5 - zvitendero. Vanhu vakapedzisira vave mujeri nekuda kwekubuda pachena sevasingatendi kuti kuna Mwari.


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