Gurukota reDutch Grapperhaus weRuramisiro neChengetedzo achaenda kuThailand svondo rino kuzokurukura nezvekuburitswa kwemuridzi wechitoro chekofi cheBrabant Johan van Laarhoven.

Van Laarhoven akatongerwa muThailand muna 2015 kuti atongerwe mutongo wemakore 103, maanofanira kushanda makore makumi maviri, nekuda kwekutengesa mari. Mudzimai wemuDutch wechiThai akagamuchirawo mutongo wemakore gumi nemaviri mujeri. Akanga awana mari yaakanga abirwa nekutengesa zvinodhaka. Van Laarhoven akamhanyisa zvitoro zvina zvekofi muBrabant.

Mutsamba kuImba yeVamiriri, Grapperhaus anonyora kuti achagamuchirwa neChishanu neMutungamiriri weThai Prayut uye Gurukota rezvemitemo reThai.

Sekureva kweNRC, Public Prosecution Service muBreda haisi kufara nedanho raGrapperhaus. Vanotenda kuti gurukota harifanire kupindira panyaya iri kuramba ichipomerwa mhosva. Kunyanya nekuti Van Laarhoven apikisa mutongo wake. Nhaurirano nezve extradition saka hazvibatsiri.

Verenga chinhu chose meseji pane webhusaiti yeNOS

79 mhinduro ku "Minister Grapperhaus kuThailand kuna Van Laarhoven"

  1. Ruud anoti kumusoro

    Kune vanhu vazhinji vechiDutch vari mutirongo muThailand uye achaedza kuzviita here, kana kuti ari kungotsvaga Van Laarhoven?

    Ipapo chokwadi pane chimwe chinhu chinonhuwa pazviri.

    • Tino Kuis anoti kumusoro

      Ndiwo mubvunzo. Anofanira kumiririra munhu wese. Muna 2017, vanhu gumi nevatatu vechiDutch vaive muchitokisi cheThai. Handizive manhamba egore rino.

    • Leo Th. anoti kumusoro

      Unoreva kunhuwa kupi Ruud? Van Laarhoven ari muhusungwa mushure mekunge Public Prosecution Service muNetherlands yatumira chikumbiro chisina hanya cherubatsiro rwemutemo kune vamwe vavo vekuThai, maererano neOmbudsman. Izvi hazvishande kune vamwe vasungwa vechiDutch vari mumajeri eThai. Ndiri kuda kuziva zvichabuda pamusangano weChishanu unotevera. Vatongi veThai vakazopa Van Laarhoven mhosva yekuba mari muThailand. Prayut pasina mubvunzo ichava nesimba rekupidigura mutongo uyu. Asi Prayut aizodawo kuita izvozvo nezvikonzero zvipi? Izvi hazvinyatso kusimudzira chitarisiko chekuti vatongi muThailand vanoshanda vakazvimirira.

    • Annie anoti kumusoro

      Iko kunhuhwirira kuripo, mukuona kwangu, vakuru ve2 vakanga vaenda kuThailand panguva iyoyo (zvaiva pachena pahwindo panguva iyoyo) kuti vataure nevakuru vakuru ikoko uye kunwa chinwiwa chakanaka, ndizvo zvakaita mufananidzo wacho. nguva iyoyo varume ava vainge vakanganisa.Kuno kuNetherlands ndakatozodhumhana naVa Van Laarhoven zvino ndaona mukana wavo wekudzokerana navo saka ndazviona manje,hameno kuti zvakauya sei.

      • Jacques anoti kumusoro

        Wadiwa Mai Annie, zvakajairika kuti vakuru vakuru vaende kunze kwenyika kuti vawane ruzivo nezvevanhu vechiDutch vanofungirwa (zvakakomba) mhosva dzemhosva. Izvi zvinogona kuva chikamu chechikumbiro cherubatsiro rwemutemo. Izvi zvinoitika kakawanda. Ini ndinofunga zvakanaka kuti iwe unogona kuverenga zvese izvi kubva pamufananidzo wakadaro, asi kana zviri izvo. Ndichine kupokana kwangu pamusoro peizvi.

    • Thea anoti kumusoro

      Hongu, Netherlands inewo hanya nevanhu vechiDutch vari mumajeri eThai.
      Ndichiri kuyeuka kuti Netherlands yakawana muChinese kunze uko akanga asingatauri shoko rechiDutch asi ane pasipoti yechiDutch.
      Ini handina imwe pfungwa pamusoro pazvo, asi Van Laarhoven akabatwa zvinonyadzisa neNetherlands.
      Akaita zvikanganiso zvakakura uye haana kumbonetsekana naVan Laarhoven asiri wemujeri.
      Ndinoziva kwaiita Van Laarhoven mari yake, asi hazvina basa.
      Netherlands yakaita zvikanganiso zvepamutemo uye yakanonoka kugadzirisa

  2. Borrow anoti kumusoro

    Izvi zvinogona kunge zvichidhura kune mutero, asi vamwe vanhu vechiDutch vanogona kuvhunduka

  3. Ben Janssens anoti kumusoro

    Zvinoshamisa kuti mushumiri angaita izvi. Zvichida munhu waanozivana naye here?

    • Patrick anoti kumusoro

      Pane zvimwe zviri kuitika pano. Muchuchisi wehurumende aiva pabasa panguva iyoyo, muvambi wenyaya iyi isina kunaka, aive Lucas van Delft. Akadzingwa. Panguva iyi, vakuru vake vakatozorongedzawo mabhegi avo. Mushumiri anogona kunge ari kuyedza kuchenesa tsvina iyi kuti asazorasika kumeso.

  4. Joop anoti kumusoro

    Ndinogona kufungidzira kuti Public Prosecution Service muBreda haisi kufara nekushanya kwegurukota. Murume iyeye haana chimwe chinhu chiri nani chokuita here? Zvinoita sekuti Mushumiri Grapperhaus anogona kushandisa nguva yake zvine mutsindo kupfuura kufamba nzira yose kuenda kuThailand kunobatsira tsotsi; ndozvinoitirwa vamwe vanhu.
    Ini zvakare ndinofunga kuti maThais haasi kufara nevatorwa vari kupindira nehurongwa hwavo hwekutonga mhosva.

  5. Kees Janssen anoti kumusoro

    Strange situation. Extradition inogoneka chete mushure mekunge nyaya dzese dzagadziriswa. Sezvo akwidza nyaya yake, izvi hazviiti.
    Uye hongu, vanhu vakati wandei vechiDutch vakanamatira muThailand.

  6. Koge anoti kumusoro

    Lord Grapperhaus vane zvese zvakatsvinda zvakarongeka muNetherlands. Netherlands yave munzira yekuve nyika yeNarco
    kuva nhamba 1 munyika. Anobva auya kuzotaura kuti murume iyeye ngaangosunungurwa.
    Uye anotogamuchirwa naPrayut kana zvasvika kune tsotsi rezvinodhaka !!!

    • Cornelis anoti kumusoro

      Kana uchinyatsofunga kuti arikuuya kuzokuudza kuti murume ngaangosunungurwa, hauna zvakawanda wazvinzwisisa, ndinotya.

  7. Cornelis anoti kumusoro

    Hurumende haimbozviitiwo zvakanaka: kushoropodza zvikuru vePublic Prosecution Service pamusoro pemigumisiro yezviito zvavo uye sezviri pachena kusada kutora matanho, uye ikozvino gurukota rava kutora matanho pachavo, hazvina kunaka zvakare. Pfffft…………….

  8. cees kitseroo anoti kumusoro

    kukurumidza nei? Haukwanisi kutsanangura izvi kune ani zvake?!

    • Prawo anoti kumusoro

      Hast?
      Kana kuti makore anonoka?
      Murume uyu anga ari muThailand kwemakore akawanda. Nekuda kwezviito zveDutch Public Prosecution Service. Ndinofunga iyo yekupedzisira ikozvino yave yakatemwa. neNational Ombudsman yedu.

      • Prawo anoti kumusoro

        Dhawunirodha National Ombudsman's Report pano: https://www.nationaleombudsman.nl/system/files/rapport/20190014%20%20R%20%20201708510%20%2011-3-2019.pdf

        Ini ndinofunga Grapperhaus ari kuenda kuThailand akamiririra Imba yeVamiriri. Kudzora kukanganisa?

      • Ruud anoti kumusoro

        Ave ari mujeri kwemakore nekuti akatyora mutemo muThailand.
        Ichokwadi chokuti hurumende yeThai yakafarira kwaari, zvichida nekuda kwezviito zvevakuru veDutch, hazvichinje izvozvo.
        Akabatwa nemhosva yaakapara kuThailand.
        Aigonawo kusarudza kusapara mhosva iyoyo.

  9. Kanchanaburi anoti kumusoro

    Ndinobvumirana newe zvachose Ruud.
    Kukanganisa kunenge kwaitwa uye hongu, kune grey nzvimbo uye maburi, asi usanyunyute kana ukabatwa.
    Hazvitendeseki kuti unogona kuita zvakawanda setsotsi. Zvechokwadi, ine kunhuhwirira kusina kunaka.
    Ngatikuratidzei zvazvinoreva:
    Van Laarhoven, muvambi wezvitoro zvina zvekofi muBrabant, akasungwa nemapurisa eThai makore mashanu apfuura mushure mekunge dhipatimendi rekutonga reDutch rakatumira chikumbiro chemutemo kuThailand. Van Laarhoven anga achigara muPattaya, Thailand, kubvira 2008. Akasungwa pamwe chete nemukadzi wake weThai apo veDutch Public Prosecution Service vakakumbira ruzivo mukuferefeta kwave kuita muNetherlands kubvira 2011. Johan van Laarhoven, munun'una wake Frans uye vashandi vakati wandei veBrabant coffee shop chain vanofungidzirwa muNetherlands nekutengesa mari yezvinodhaka, kunzvenga mutero kwakakura uye kuve nhengo yesangano rematsotsi. Sekureva kwePublic Prosecution Service, vasungwa vakawana mari inosvika mamirioni makumi maviri emadhora kuburikidza nehutsotsi. Mari yacho yakaiswa zvakanyanya muThailand.

    • RuudB anoti kumusoro

      Sezvaunozvitaura, Van Laarhoven haana kana mhosva imwe chete yaakapara muThailand, ergo: Thailand haina zvachose chikonzero chepamutemo chekumutongera mhosva. Ichokwadi ndechekuti Public Prosecution Service muBreda yakapa hurumende yeThai mazano. Chero zvazvingava, zvakaunzwa naVan Laarhoven muThailand "zvakatotorwa". Iyi inguva yekukunda-kukunda here? Van Laarhoven mujeri, uye Thailand zvishoma zvakapfuma?

  10. William anoti kumusoro

    Handiti Van Laarhoven abatwa nemhosva yekuba mari zvisiri pamutemo here? Mune mamwe mazwi, kusazivisa kutengwa kwemari yakawanda. Zvekare hazvinei nechekuita nemari yaanonzi anowana yemushonga. Grappenhaus anoda kuitei nezvazvo? Ngaave (zvakare) azvidye mwoyo pamusoro pevamwe.

  11. Richard anoti kumusoro

    Vakomana zvakadaro,

    Tiri kutaura nezvemumwe mutengesi wezvinodhaka anonzwisa tsitsi pano, murombo angozvipfumisa nekutengesa zvinodhaka.

    Uye panguva ino akagadzira mamwe mabasa.
    Usakanganwe kuti kuvonga kwaari, makiriniki ezvehutano uye ekudzorera zvinodhaka akawana vatengi vakawanda.
    Somunhu wechiDutch unofanira kudada nazvo uye saka unoda kumudzosa kuNetherlands saSinterklaas.

    • Fred anoti kumusoro

      Unewo maonero aunoitawo here pamusoro pevarimi vedoro nefodya pamwe chete nevanogadzira shuga neindasitiri yemishonga?

    • Leo Th. anoti kumusoro

      Richard zvakadaro,
      Kukodzera 'pathetic drug dealer' hazviite kwandiri kuti ndinyore kuna Van Laarhoven. Akanga ari muridzi wezvizhinji zvezvitoro zvekofi, iyo isiri mhosva yemhosva muNetherlands. Izvo hazvina kumukuvadza zvakare, semuzvinabhizinesi akangwara akaita mamirioni nekutengesa cheni. Idi rekuti aifungidzirwa kunzvenga mutero muNetherlands harina chekuita nenyaya yekuti zvaaitengesa zvaive nemishonga yakapfava. Mishonga yakapfava, iyo ikozvino inogona kuwanikwawo kubva kuma pharmacy netsamba yachiremba yehuwandu hwezvirwere. Kare, chiremba dzimwe nguva vaikurudzira kunwa zuva rega rega vasati vaenda kunorara. Ikozvino zvinoita sekunge doro harina kunaka kune hutano hwako zvachose, uye kunyanya kana rikanyanya kunwiwa. Nekuda kweizvozvo, makiriniki ekudzoreredza zvinodhaka avepo kwemakumi emakore uye mutengo wekurapa nekuda kwekushandisa doro zvakanyanya muNetherlands unosvika mabhiriyoni. Zvakadaro doro rinowanikwa zvakanyanya, masherufu ewaini muzvitoro zvikuru ari kufashukira uye kushandiswa kwedoro kunosimudzirwa zvisingaite kuburikidza nekushambadza. Vatungamiri veGall & Gall, chikamu cheAhold, havazove varombo, asi hapana achanyunyuta pamusoro pazvo, nepo Van Laarhoven achigara achipomerwa kuti akawana mari yakanaka. Nenzira, Sinterklaas yakatanga kubva kuTurkey, zvine chekuita nei naVan Laarhoven kuThailand?

    • Thea anoti kumusoro

      Akatengesa mishonga yakapfava muNetherlands, chimwe chinhu chiri pamutemo chose pano.
      Unogumburwa nenyaya dzezvinodhaka nyoro pano

    • Ger Korat anoti kumusoro

      Nyika dzakawanda dziri kuita kuti zvinodhaka zvinyoro zvisave nemhosva. Nguva pfupi yadarika kurimwa, kushandiswa uye kutengesa muCanada kwakabviswa. Izvi zvinoteverwawo muMexico nekuti hazvibvumidzwe nebumbiro remutemo. Nyika mbiri dzeUS dzakatoiburitsa. Munyika dzakawanda muEurope hazvionekwi semhosva. Uruguay ndiyo nyika yekutanga kwayakabvumidzwa. Kunyangwe muThailand, cannabis yekushandiswa kwemushonga ikozvino yabvumidzwa.
      Saka semutsigiri wemasokisi mutema, usataure kuti pane chero mhosva pamusoro pekutengesa, kutengeserana uye kushandiswa kwezvinodhaka nyoro muNetherlands. Pane chete kunzvenga mutero uye izvo zviri kuunzwa semhosva uye (kururamisira) kuri kutoshanda ikoko nekugadzirisa (mamiriyoni makumi maviri ekubhadhara).

      • Jacques anoti kumusoro

        Wadiwa Ger-Korat, uri kuenzanisa maapuro nemaorenji. Kugadzira kushandiswa kwemishonga kune imwe nzira yakasiyana nekushandiswa kwemutemo wekushivirira, apo kupiwa kwemishonga iyi kunofanira kuendeswa kuburikidza nemukova wekuseri uye nepamukova wemukova mumwe chete anobvumirwa kutenga mishonga shoma yekushandiswa kwega. Kukura nekutengesa izvo zvidyarwa zveboka irori rinotarirwa zvichiri kurambidzwa muNetherlands. Idi rekuti boka guru revanhu rinoshandisa izvi kunze kwekunyorerwa kwachiremba uye kurapa hurwere zvinodarika fungidziro yangu, asi izvo zviri kunze kweiyo pfungwa. Asi pamwe kushandiswa kwezvinodhaka nevanhu vane hutano zvakare chirwere, ndiani anoziva. Vanhu vanoita zvimwe zvinhu zvinoshamisa. Panyaya iyi pane kusabhadhara mutero uye izvo zvinonyanya kuwanda mumakambani emhando idzi, pamwe nekubiwa kwemari yakawanikwa zvisiri pamutemo. Saka matsotsi chokwadi.
        Ndinoziva kuti mutemo wekushivirira unonyanya kuvhiringa kune vamwe, asi ini handisi kuzonyepedzera kuti kushandisa zvinodhaka kwakapfava hakukonzeri matambudziko munharaunda.

        • Ger Korat anoti kumusoro

          Wadiwa Jacques, pfungwa yangu ndeyekuti kunyangwe muThailand yakasimba kana zvasvika kune zvinodhaka, kurima kwatotenderwa nekuda kwemishonga. Uye izvo hazvibvumirwi kunyange muNetherlands, kwete kunyange kushandiswa kwemishonga yega! Netherlands yakatorwa kuruboshwe uye kurudyi nedzimwe nyika kwemakore mune izvi, tarisa kuSpain uko kurima kunobvumirwa.

          Chii chisingakonzere matambudziko munzanga? Funga nezve kushungurudzwa kwakasiyana kuri mukati mehutongi hwejekerere, sekureva nhema nehuwori hwemuchuchisi M. van N. kana mhosva dzichangobva kuitika dzemukuru wemapurisa muAmsterdam AS kana mukuru weCentral Works Council yemapurisa. nekuparidza kwetsika nekuti vazhinji vanofanirwa kutonga ivo vari vatadzi vakuru ivo uye ini ndiri kungotaura nezveNetherlands. Mutemo wekushivirira wakatangwa makore makumi mashanu apfuura nekuti zvakaonekwa kuti kurambidza hakuna zvakunobatsira kushandisa.

          • Jacques anoti kumusoro

            Wadiwa Ger-Korat, chokwadi chekuti chave kutenderwa kushandisa zvinhu izvi munyika dzakawanda chine chekuita nemari yakawanda inobatanidzwa. Zvakawanda zvinogona kuwanikwa kubva pazviri. Hazvina kupokana kuti boka diki revarwere vanobatsirwa nemushonga uyu. Handisi kupikisa kukura nekuda kwezvinangwa izvi. Kwese kwaunosangana nevanhu vasingagoni kukunda muedzo. Mapoka ese evanhu anouya kuThailand nekuda kwehuwandu hwepfambi, kungotaura vashoma.

            Ndakaziva mapurisa ose ari maviri, kunyange munguva dzakanaka, uye zvavakaita zvakaipa zvakanga zvichitaurwa zvikuru munhau. Ndine chokwadi nezvangu pamusoro peizvi maererano nekomisheni, nekuti pane zvakawanda zviri kuitika pane zvakaziviswa. Kana ari sachigaro wekanzuru yemabasa panguva iyoyo, Frank G, sezviri pachena aive nerupo zvakanyanya pakushandisa pakudya kweresitorendi uye akadarika bhajeti rake. Haana kukwanisa kupa chero tsananguro dzakanaka dzeizvi. Handisi kuzovapembedza nekuti pane utsi pane moto. Vagamuchira kurangwa kwavo. Zvisinei, vakaita basa rakanaka kunzanga kwemakore uye handizivi kuti mamiriro acho akaita sei naVan Laarhoven kunze kweiyi nyaya yemhosva. Pane chakanaka nechakaipa mumunhu wese, ichokwadi, asi ini handidi kubatanidza nyaya idzi pamwechete.

            Kune boka rakakosha revashandisi vezvinodhaka (vakapindwa muropa), ini handigone kuramba izvo uye sezvakangoita nehondo yezvinwiwa zvinodhaka kubva kuma20s, izvo zvakare zvakarwarisa vanhu vazhinji, zvinodhaka chinhu chakakosha, icho chainzi hachifanirwe. kurambidzwa 100%. Saka iyo tolerance policy.

            Ruramisiro inodiwa kuti ichengetedze uye ichigoneka. Hapana anoda zvisiri pamutemo, asi ivo chikamu chenharaunda yedu nemhedzisiro yese inosanganisira.

  12. RichardJ anoti kumusoro

    De Volkskrant anonyora nhasi:

    “Kurume wapfuura, National Ombudsman yakapa mutongo wekuti Van Laarhoven anogona kusungwa nekuti Netherlands yakakanganisa pachikumbiro chekudzosera. Ruzivo rwuri muchikumbiro ichocho rwakagadzirwa nenzira yekuti Public Prosecution Service ingadai yakatarisira kuti zviremera zveThai zvaizosunga mutengesi wezvinodhaka aigara muThailand panguva iyoyo, maererano neOmbudsman.

    Minister vane zvavanoda kugadzirisa...

    • Chris anoti kumusoro

      Handisi kunyatsonzwisisa izvozvo. Chikumbiro chekudzosera - ndinofungidzira - chakataura chokwadi nezvavan Laarhoven, zviitiko zvake zviri pamutemo zvechitoro chekofi muNetherlands uye mhosva dzaanofungirwa muNetherlands. Kubva pachokwadi, hurumende yeThai inoona zvikonzero zvekumusunga pano: mari yekubira, inowanikwa kuburikidza nekutengesa zvinodhaka.
      Uye zvino Grappenhaus ine chimwe chinhu chekugadzirisa? Vaifanira kunyora nhema muchikumbiro extradition?

      • Prawo anoti kumusoro

        Zvakawanda zvekufungidzira.
        Unoziva here mashoko echikumbiro ichocho cherubatsiro rwemutemo?

        Iyo Netherlands inogara ichizvibata zvisina kunaka?
        Ndingati, verenga nyaya yaJulio Poch, Spain neArgentina.

      • Johnny B.G anoti kumusoro

        Sezvineiwo, fungidziro iyoyo haina kunaka sezvo kuturikira muchiRungu kwanga kwakaoma. Zvinoshamisa kana iwe uchiziva kuti kana uchiturikira kubva kuThai kuenda kuChirungu, dudziro yeThai inotakura huremu hwakawanda.
        Mune mamwe mazwi, shanduro yeChirungu isina kururama inorema kudarika mutauro wechiDutch.

        Iye Prankster achaedza kururamisa zvakaipa, asi iva nechokwadi; avo vane mhosva mune iyi farce havamborangwa muumambo hwebhanana.

        • Prawo anoti kumusoro

          Chokwadi, vashanduri vane zvitupa vakazviita.

    • Jacques anoti kumusoro

      Ndine manzwiro ekuti the best ombudsman anonyanya kuterera nezvemakadhi ake pano. Iri ibasa rake kupa mazano, asi zvanga zvisingambove chinangwa chevatongi kuunza Van Laarhoven kumatare edzimhosva muThailand kuburikidza nechikumbiro chekubatsira mutemo, chakagadzirwa nemapurisa. Handizvo zvinodiwa pakukumbira rubatsiro rwemutemo. Izvo hazvishandire chikonzero cheDutch zvakare.
      Panzvimbo pekungotarisa kana ruzivo rwakakumbirwa nezveVan Laarhoven runogona kuwanikwa muThailand, chiremera cheThai chakazvitsvagira chega. Pamwe nekuti paive nekufungirwa kuti mari yeblack yaibiwa. Vanhu pavakaona musha wake mukuru ndokutanga kubvunza marudzi ese, vakabva vaona kuti Van Laarhoven aityorawo mutemo weThai. Kuita ipapo isarudzo. Icho chokwadi chekuti iwe unogona kuzotaura kuti kunyanya kuchenjerera kwaifanira kunge kwaitwa pakukumbira data kuburikidza nekukumbira rubatsiro rwemutemo kubva kune zviremera zveThai chidzidzo chekuona kumashure. Muchirevo ichocho, ndinofunga kuti Mutungamiri Grappenhaus angada kutsanangura zvimwe zvinhu uye kuona kana asingakwanise kuendeswa kunze kwenguva refu. Ini ndinofunga chirango hachina kuenzana maererano nemaitiro echiDutch, asi chinoshanda kuThailand, saka anozofanira kuita nazvo. Ini handisi munhu anofarira Van Laarhoven uye murume anga achishoreka zvakanyanya uye ndizvo zvakaitawo mukadzi wake. Zvechokwadi akakodzera kurangwa, zvakare muNetherlands. Ndinoziva, izvo zviri kumutongi kwete ini, asi isu tichaona zvinoitika. Ndinotya kuti magweta aVan Laarhoven muNetherlands achabva aita kuti ave kure uye kuti huzhinji husina maturo huchaunzwa, izvo zvinogona kuderedzwa kubva mutongo. Zvese izvi kana zvasvika kune izvozvo, nekuti hatisati taziva izvozvo. Kuderedzwa ikoko kwaisazoita kururamisira kumhosva dzakaparwa uye mutongo. Chirango chakakomba chakafanira zvirokwazvo. Izvo zvinofanirwa kunge zvisingagone kupokana kuti mushumiri uye embassy yeDutch vanofanira kumiririra zvizvarwa zvavo zveDutch nguva dzose. Asi ine muganhu uye isu tichazviona kunze nekufamba kwenguva.

      • RuudB anoti kumusoro

        Wakarasika zvachose. Muchiitiko chechipiri, NL yakapa TH zano rekuti atange kuferefeta iye pachake, uye sezvo Van Laarhoven airarama nemari yezvinodhaka, chokwadi ichocho chaive chisina kukwana kumudzinga, asi zvakanaka kuti atore matanho. Zvizivise, tanga waverenga nezvenhoroondo yenyaya yaVan Laarhoven, wobva waverenga mushumo weOmbudsman.

        • Jacques anoti kumusoro

          Wadiwa RuudB, ndakanyora zvikumbiro zvinodikanwa zvemutemo munguva yakapfuura uye ndakazvitumira kuburikidza nevakuru vematare uye ndinoziva zvakanyanya kana zvishoma kuti zvinoshanda sei. Ini handizive zvakadzama zvarinotaura nekuti zvinoenderana nekuti vanhu vanoda kuziva chii, asi iwe hauzvizivewo. Nenzira iyi tinoidudzira nenzira yedu uye pane misiyano yemafungiro. Nekudaro, izwi rekuti fungidziro rakashandiswa mukukumbira rubatsiro rwemutemo, izvo zvinogona kukonzera matambudziko. Izvi ndakazviverenga munhau. Ndinokutendai mhashu. Zvinoita sei kuti izwi iri rishandiswe. Iwe unofanirwa here kugumisa kubva pane izvi kuti ivo vanozoitisa yavo yekuferefeta uye izvi zvinozomira munzira yechikumbiro chekudzosera. Pachave pasina chikumbiro chekuti chiremera cheThai chiite ongororo uye kumhan'arira pachayo. Ndiko kwaiva kuzvida kwangu. Haungaite chikumbiro chakadaro cherubatsiro rwemutemo pasina munhu anofungira. Pakati pezvimwe zvinhu, ndezvekuziva kuti Van Laarhoven anogara sei muThailand. Mashandisiro aanoita mari yake uye kana izvi zvichienderana nemari yaakazivisa kune zviremera zvemitero muNetherlands, nezvimwewo, nezvimwewo. Zvinogona kutengwa zvinhu nemari zvakawanikwa kunze kwenyika kuburikidza nehutsotsi zvinogona kunzi. Tsvakurudzo yakadaro inoparadzirwa zvikuru. Kuunganidza uye kuunganidza ruzivo rwematsotsi ibasa remapurisa par excellence uye sezvo Van Laarhoven anga atotora zororo, hupenyu hwake muThailand hwakatonyanya kukosha uye hunonakidza. Akaita zvikanganiso zvakawanda pachake uye akazviunzira dambudziko iri paari. Dzimwe nguva kuva tsotsi hakubatsiri.

          • RuudB anoti kumusoro

            Mukukumbira kuThailand, maererano neruzivo kubva kuPublic Prosecution Service, izwi rekuti "mufungidziri" rakashandiswa, izvo zvakaita kuti TH atore danho pachayo. VePublic Prosecution Service, NatOmbMan neMinJus vakati ichi changa chisiri chinangwa, izvo zvakaita kuti Van Laarhoven apinzwe muhusungwa zvisiri izvo kwemakore angangoita makumi maviri. Saka ichokwadi kuti NL iri kuyedza kugadzirisa izvi. Zvimwe zvacho hazvina basa. Semunhu aimbove mupurisa unofanira kuziva zvinoreva kuramba!

            • Jacques anoti kumusoro

              Hazvisi kupokana kuti chikumbiro cherubatsiro rwemutemo chakashanda chete kuwana ruzivo rwakawanda sezvinobvira nezveVan Laarhoven muThailand. Ndizvo zvinoita chikumbiro. Zviripachena zvakare kuti zvine chekuita nemunhu anofungidzirwa kuti akafungirwa, dai zvisina kudaro mapurisa nevatongi vangadai vasina kumbotanga kuferefeta. Zvakawanda zvaitozivikanwa nezvake muNetherlands, zvitore kwandiri. Icho chokwadi chekuti zviremera zveThai zvinoda kuhwina zvibodzwa ivo pachavo uye kutora nyaya nevatorwa hazvina kufungidzirwa zvakakwana. Iwe unogona kudana izvo zvisina maturo kana kusaziva, asi zvakazoitika zvisina kunaka kuNetherlands, iyo yaida Van Laarhoven kuseri kwemabhawa. Pamwe zvicharamba zvichishanda, asi handifungi kuti zvichaitika nokukurumidza. Van Laarhoven haana kusungwa zvisina kururama muThailand, iye nomudzimai wake nemhuri vakazviita ivo pachavo nokupara mhosva muThailand. Anoita basa kana tsika nazvo, ndingadaro. Asi pamwe uchatsvenesa tsumo yekuti hauzive zvisingarwadze. Kutevera fomu reTM30, kuongororwa kwemapurisa kwakajairwa kunofanirwa kuitika kune vatorwa vanogara muThailand uye kuongororwa maitiro akanaka. Ipapo kune mukana wakakura kwazvo wekuronda nekusunga vapari vemhosva kana kuvadzinga munyika ne "kurambidzwa kwekupinda" kunoenderana nemhosva dzakaparwa. Kuna Van Laarhoven, angangoita makore makumi mana ekudzingwa kubva kuThailand. Uye kana asingatarisiri kupinda muThailand zvakare zvisiri pamutemo, anozofanira kushandira mutongo wake wekare kana awanikwa aine mhosva.

              • RuudB anoti kumusoro

                Wadiwa Jacques, chirevo chako chakajeka uye zvirokwazvo hachisi changu. Sezvandakataura: vese OM, MinJus uye NatOmMan vanoshuma kuti kukanganisa kwakaitwa. Zvimwe zvacho hazvina basa. Wese munhu anogona kufungidzira chero chaanoda, chiri uye chinoramba chiri padivi.

  13. GeertP anoti kumusoro

    Ichokwadi chokuti Netherlands iri kutumira mushumiri inotaura zvakakwana, Netherlands yakaita chikanganiso chikuru.
    Iye zvino ibva kuLaarhoven uende kuNetherlands nekukurumidza sezvinobvira kwaanogona kumhan'arira nyika yeDutch nemakonzo kubva kuPublic Prosecution Service akamurova.

  14. rira anoti kumusoro

    Vanofungidzirwa kuti vangave vakagadzirira kuchinjisa mhosva yavo kwemamiriyoni makumi maviri!
    National Ombudsman yakapa mushumo wakakomba paPublic Prosecution Service uye Min. yeJustice.
    Ndiri kutoona mamiriro acho ezvinhu: fungidziro kuNL, gweta rinomhan'arira NL State, fungira ipapo murume akasununguka aine muripo wakakura nekuti zvese zvakamusuwisa.

    • Ruud anoti kumusoro

      Kukwanisa kudzoreredza mutongo wako kunoratidzika kwandiri kukuru kune vapfumi.
      Iyo system iripo zvakare muThailand, asi vapfumi chete ndivo vane mari yekudzoreredza mitongo yavo.

      Varombo havana "kubuda mujeri mushure mekubhadhara" mukana kadhi.

  15. Dennis anoti kumusoro

    Zvichitevera mutongo weOmbudsman, Minister Grappenhaus (vanofanira here?) pamwe vachaedza kuti Van Laarhoven vasunungurwe (kare) kana kuedza kuti Van Laarhoven aendese mutongo wake kuNetherlands. Izvozvo zvingangosvika pakusunungurwa pakarepo. VaThais havana basa nazvo, saka kana vakaitira Netherlands zvakanaka, vanorega Van Laarhoven achienda.

    Nokuti rekodhi uye vamwe vedu takanganwa, havazivi kana havadi kuziva: Van Laarhoven haana mhosva! Akatongerwa (chaizvo mumaonero angu) muThailand nekuda kwekutengesa mari uye ndizvo chaizvo zvaakaita. Hapana nzira yekupinda pakati.

    MuNetherlands kune mutemo wekushivirira uye 1 kana kupfuura (kana kwete) zvitoro zvekofi pamanispala inobvumirwa kutengesa huwandu hushoma hwemasora. Somuenzaniso, 500 gramu. Dambudziko nderekuti mashopu ekofi haamire kana chikafu chezuva chatengeswa. Asi nokuti izvi hazvibvumirwi, zvinoitwa "pasi pekaunda" uye mari yacho "yakasviba". Mushure mezvose, haugone kuisa zviri pamutemo mari yako yakawanikwa zvisiri pamutemo mumaakaundi ako. Iwe haufanirwe kuve Einstein kuti unzwisise kuti ne500 magiramu pazuva (uye pamwe pamusoro penzvimbo dzakati wandei) HAUNOGONA, USAMBOVA mamirioni akawanda saVan Laarhoven. Uye Mr van Laarhoven havana kuhwinawo rotari yenyika, saka pane chimwe chinhu chine hove pazviri.

    Van Laarhoven akabva aenda kuThailand nemamiriyoni ake "matema" uye akashandisa mari yekudyara uye kuvaka imba / dzimba. Uye ndiko kutambisa mari kwemari yematsotsi, muNetherlands neThailand! Kutenda kwake kwakarurama. Vese van Laarhoven neve(Dutch) Public Prosecution Service vanonyatsoziva zviri kuitika, asi veDutch Public Prosecution Service vari kuomerwa nekuwana humbowo hwechokwadi (hwekuti kupfuura mari yezuva yakatengeswa). Chokwadi chokuti nyaya yaVan Laarhoven haina mvura haina basa; Mumutemo wedu wemhosva (Dutch) Public Prosecution Service inofanira kupa humbowo (panyaya iyi mhosva ndeyekutengesa zvinodhaka; dai yaenda kuMutemo Wemitero, mutemo waizoshanda wekuti Van Laarhoven anofanira kuratidza kwaakawana mari. Van Laarhoven anga atova kuThailand panguva iyoyo).

    Nokuda kwekujekesa; Ombudsman haisi yemutemo wemhosva. Zvichitevera kunyunyuta, ombudsman akatonga kuti zvakaitwa neDutch Public Prosecution Service hazvina kunaka. Izvi hazvitongi (mu) kusava nemhosva kwavan Laarhoven, saka hatifanirwe kutora mhedziso iyoyo. Nemutongo weOmbudsman uye nenguva yapfuura, vanhu muHague vanofanirwa kunge vakafunga "zvakakwana". Saka mushumiri anoenda kuThailand. Zvakanaka, ndizvo zvazviri. Sekuona kwangu, Van Laarhoven anongova nemhosva yekutengesa zvinodhaka uye akaita chikanganiso chekushandisa mari yake yematsotsi muThailand. Uye ipapo unofanira kutambura migumisiro.

    • Ger Korat anoti kumusoro

      Wadiwa Dennis, ndine mhinduro. Hazvitauri chero kupi zvako kuti kupihwa kwesora kunotengeswa i500 gramu pazuva. Ndakaverenga pawebhusaiti yehurumende kuti iyo yekutengesa inogona kusapfuura 500 gramu. Izvi zvinoreva kuti kana masheya ari pasi pe500 magiramu, anogona kuzadzikiswa kusvika pa500 magiramu, uye izvi zvinogona kuitwa kakawanda sezvinodiwa pazuva. Pane dzimwe nguva ndakaverenga kuti ichi ndicho chinetso uye kuti muridzi wechitoro chekofi anochengeta zvimwe nokuda kwokutengesa kwakanaka uye kuva nechokwadi chokuti zvinodhaka zvinyoro zvinogara zviripo uye hapana kushaikwa mukugovera. Nyaya yacho ndeyokuti vanobvumirwa kutengesa, asi kugovera hakuna kunyatsotsanangurwa uye ndiani anoita izvi. Iyo inzvimbo yegrey kana zvasvika kune zvinodhaka zvinodhaka. Uye kuti avo vanorima cannabis vanorangwa zvakare.

      Iniwo ndinoona zviri mumusoro kuti vanhu vazhinji vari kusheedzera mari yekubira. Ndiani anofarira kubhadhara mutero? Kana paine mukana wekubhadhara zvishoma, vazhinji vanozoitora, asi vazhinji vari kana vaive muhoro wevaranda uye vaisafanira kubata nazvo. Ini pachangu ndinofunga zvinhu zvakawanda mu
      indasitiri yekudyara inofanirwa kutarisana neizvi kana, semuenzaniso, masaruni emuNetherlands. Ingovanza kutendeuka kana kutenga zvinhu pachivande pamisika, semuenzaniso, uye zvino hazvichagoneki kudzora kutengesa kunoenderana nemiganhu, sezvinoita zviremera zvemitero, semuenzaniso, mumaresitorendi. Uye pakupedzisira mari yakawanikwa isina mutero wakambobhadharwa inoshandiswa, iyo inonzi nevamwe mari iyi yekubira. Hongu, ndizvo zvazviriwo kana vakatenga sandwich yecroquette nemari iyi kana kuenda kuzororo nayo.

      Kune mamiriro ezvitoro zvekofi, ona chinongedzo kubva kuhurumende yepakati maererano nekutengesa stock:
      https://www.rijksoverheid.nl/onderwerpen/drugs/gedoogbeleid-softdrugs-en-coffeeshops

      • Jacques anoti kumusoro

        Muri kupembedza maitiro eutsotsi aVan Laarhoven uye muri kutaura mienzaniso kubva kuindasitiri yezvekubika uye yekukwirisa masaja, izvo zvatinoziva tese uye izvo zvisiri mubumbiro remitemo regutsaruzhinji, umo munhu wese anofanira kutevedzera mutemo.
        Iyo 500 gramu yekutengesa stock haina kugadzwa pasina chikonzero. Mutengesi wezvinodhaka anofanira kutevedzera izvi uye haafanirwe kuve ane tsvina akapfuma kubva mazviri. Ndizvo zvinodiwa nevatengesi: mari, mari uye mari yakawanda. Nzanga ine utano ichava chiroto kwavari.

  16. janbeute anoti kumusoro

    Sevanhu vakanaka uye vanoshanda nesimba mudyandigere muThailand, hatichatenderwe kuve neakaundi yekubhangi neABNAMRO state bank nekuda kwenjodzi yekubira mari.
    Hapana dambudziko naVan Laarhoven, mushumiri pachake anouya kuThailand kuzoronga zvinhu zvemunhu anopokana.
    Hurumende yeDutch saka inoshandisa zvakapetwa kaviri.
    Mhosva inobhadhara.
    Kana mumwe munhu womunyika yako akapedzisira ava mujeri reThai asina mhosva nokuti akagadzirwa, semuenzaniso, usafunge kuti unogona kutarisira rubatsiro kubva kuNetherlands.

    Jan Beute.

  17. ba anoti kumusoro

    Zvimwe ndichawana ruzivo rwuri nani kubva kuNetherlands nekuti mhinduro zhinji kubva kune avo "vakatsvinda" expats pano hazvina musoro. Hazvina mhosva kuti Dare reParamende rakapindira kuti ripindure kukanganisa kwekodzero yemuridzi wechitoro chekofi uyo asina kumbobvira abatwa nemhosva uye akarayira Minister kuti vapindire nekuda kwemaitiro ePublic Prosecution Service. Hazvisi pasina chikonzero kuti Annie anonyora pano nezvevashandi vaviri vehurumende vaive muThailand panguva iyoyo. Hazvingandishamise kana muThailand ine huori yakawachwa
    mamirioni akanyangarika muhomwe dzeThai uye ... kunyangwe maDutch vakuru vakuru. Hazvisi pasina chikonzero chekuti vashandi vehurumende muNetherlands vakadzingwa pamusoro penyaya iyi, uye hapana munhu akambotongerwa mhosva yekubira mari iyi. Pane zvakawanda zvinonhuwa panyaya iyi.

    • Joop anoti kumusoro

      Izvozvo hazviiti Van Laarhoven asina mhosva! Akatongerwa zvakakodzera ipapo pasi pemutemo weThai, saka ndapota usaite hunyengeri kubva kuNetherlands.

  18. Erik anoti kumusoro

    Kushanya kwepamusoro uku kungareva kuti mutongo wecassation, wanga uchitarisirwa muna Zvita 2018, uchasvika. Zvino makore makumi maviri e'kudyara mari inowanikwa nemishonga' anogona kuramba aripo uye L anogona kudzokera kuNL pasi pechibvumirano. Kana mudzimai wake, uyo ari Thai, achigona kuuya kunotsamira pakuregererwa naMambo kana kuti mushumiri; izvo zvichave zvakare pachirongwa cheGrapperhaus.

    Ipapo nyaya inonhuwa iyi inenge yave kunze kwenyika nekuti mutongo weNational Ombudsman haukanganisi. Van L acharasikirwa nechikumbiro chekubvutwa kwemidziyo yake muThailand, asi iyo 'imhosva yake' nekuti nemari yake yese angadai akatenga zano riri nani pane 'kunzwa wakasununguka kuenda kuThailand'.

    Ngatisakanganwe kuti Van L ndiye anonyanya kufungidzira muNetherlands nekuti sekuziva kwangu masamanisi anomupikisa akabviswa. Uye mudzimai wake haafungirwe chero chinhu muNetherlands zvakare.

  19. Rini anoti kumusoro

    Chokwadi, Minister Grapperhaus haana chinhu chiri nani chekuita,
    Ndinofunga vakabva varonga kuti asungwe achibva kuNetherlands.
    Asi ipapo mushumiri anenge akabatikana uye anogona kushanyira nyika dzakawanda, kana ukaona kubva pamwedzi wapfuura
    1 muGermany
    1 muBelgium
    2 muHungary
    Ndizvo zvakaita nhau

  20. Olaf Belaert anoti kumusoro

    Paizove nechikumbiro chekugadzirisa chinokwana €20.000.000
    VaThais, vachivaziva zvishoma, havazoti kwete kune izvozvo. Ingoteerera!

  21. Johnny B.G anoti kumusoro

    Zvakanaka, saka mbwende idzi hadzifanirwe kunge dzakavanda kuseri kwemitemo yeUN uye panguva ino vakaziva kukosha kwehutano hweveruzhinji saka vakazvishivirira.
    Ndiyo Netherlands chaiyo.
    NS yakadzinga maJuda, vemitero havana kana tsitsi nevanhu vakabatsira vamwe vazhinji kuti vararame munguva yehondo, hurumende yakatikurudzira kushandisa nyama, mukaka neshuga nekuti zvainzi zvine hutano, asi nekuda kwekufambira mberi. kunzwisisa isu zvino tinoziva kuti hurumende yeDutch yakanga isiri uye haisati yakavimbika.
    Ungadzivirira sei kuti meseji yekukumbira yechiDutch yakashandurwa zvisirizvo muChirungu?

    Tarisa pamusoro pemibvunzo yeparamende uye uchaona kuti zvikumbiro zvekutsvakurudza zvinofanira kubatwa zvakanyatsonaka uye kuti gay anofungidzira muSaudi Arabia anosara ari oga uye kuti Van Laarhoven aiva nekushungurudzika kukuru kumunetsa. Hakuna chinhu chakadai sekuona kwenzira kune vanoramba.

  22. Alex anoti kumusoro

    Hazvinzwisise kwandiri kuti mushumiri anouya kuThailand pachake kuti ataure nezve "nyaya yeLaarhoven". Chero musoro wehurukuro uchava.
    Tiri kutaura nezvemutengesi wezvinodhaka, tsotsi rinoba mari! Uye kwete nezvemunhu ari mujeri asina mhosva ...
    Panguva iyoyo, Netherlands yakangoendesa chikumbiro chekubatsirwa kwemutemo.
    Nyaya yekuti mapurisa emuThai vakabva vaita ongororo yavo voga ndokusangana nemaitiro ekubira mari imhosva yaLaarhoven pachake nekuda kwemararamiro ake eumbozha muno muThailand. Uye haisi mhosva yeNetherlands kana Public Prosecution Service!
    Izvo chete zvekuti mhuri inoda kumutenga ne20 miriyoni euros inoti zvakakwana!

  23. RuudB anoti kumusoro

    Mhinduro yekushanya kwaGurukota Grapperhaus kuvakuru veThai kwave kunze kwechikamu chose. Zvinoshamisa, nekuti Netherlands yakaita zvikanganiso zvakakomba munyaya iyi. Mhedzisiro: mutongo wemakore 105, ayo makore makumi maviri anofanira kushumirwa. Kuti uwane iyo nhamba yemakore muNetherlands, zvakawanda zvinofanirwa kuitwa. Zvechokwadi, Van Laarhoven akanga ari mutengesi wezvinodhaka, mutengesi wemari, muteresi wemitero, nezvimwe zvakadaro. Asi isu sefarang muThailand ngatitangei kuita zvakajairika. VaThai vachaita zvimwe. Hapana munhu anoda kutambisa muchitokisi cheThai kwemakore. Van Laarhoven akabhejera panguva iyoyo kuti aizove akachengeteka muThailand. Izvi hazvina kuitika nekuda kwezvakaitwa nemuchuchisi wePublic akagumbuka. Kana Van Laarhoven akasungwa muNetherlands mumakore anotevera, ndiko kuchava kupera kwenyaya.
    Chimbofunga: ko kana ukapinda mudambudziko muThailand, uye vanhu vakakanganwa nezvako?

    • rira anoti kumusoro

      Magweta emhuri uye anodhura akaita nhamburiko huru kune vezvenhau nehurumende.
      Chokwadi unogona. Kunyangwe asiri munhu wese ane iwo masuo uye mari inodiwa kune izvi.
      Uye kwete kumunhu wese wemunyika anoshaya (uyu anofungidzirwa anoda kugadzirisa nehurumende yeDutch kwemamiriyoni), hurumende ichabhururuka kunze kwenyika. Uye izvo zvinondisiya ndine maonero anotevera:
      George Orwell - Purazi remhuka: "Mhuka dzose dzakaenzana, asi dzimwe mhuka dzakaenzana kupfuura dzimwe".

  24. William anoti kumusoro

    Van Laarhoven munguva yakapfuura akagamuchira mari yakawanda kubva kunyika dzakasiyana-siyana dzakaenda kubhangi rebhangi muThailand, kana ndikayeuka zvakanaka.
    Haana kukwanisa kutsanangurira vatongi veThai kuti mari iyi yaive yei.
    Saka ane mhosva yekubira mari yezvinodhaka, izvo zvinorangwa muThailand.
    Kupera kwenyaya.
    Ndinoshamisika kana "Minister Prankster" achingoshanda kuna Van Laarhoven kana kumudzimai wake ... uye/kana Van Laarhoven ari kunetsekana nemukadzi wake.
    Ndinosangana nezvinyorwa zvishoma zvenhau nezvemukadzi wake…

  25. budiriro anoti kumusoro

    Murume uyu haana chaakaita chakaipa muThailand, akabatwa nemhosva pakunzwa neveDutch justice system. Haana kukuvadza munhu. Zvinhu zvinoitika muThailand zvinobata vagari. Ngavaise pfungwa dzavo pane izvozvo. Ndinoreva mafia epasi rese munzvimbo dzevashanyi, huwori nehumwe hunyengeri hunobata vagari nevashanyi. Anorarama asina chivi anokanda ibwe rekutanga.

    • Chris anoti kumusoro

      Unogonawo kufunga kuti kana mutongi akakuwana une mhosva, une mhosvawo nokuda/munzanga yawakapara mhosva iyoyo.
      Usambozvifunga kuti unogona kuramba usina mhosva asi watadza kuzviratidza.
      Kusvika pari zvino mutongi weThai ati van Laarhoven ane mhosva uye ZVINO ane mhosva. Zviri nyore.

      • RuudB anoti kumusoro

        Nharo isina musoro. Saka vanhu vazhinji vakavharirwa mumajeri nekuti mutongi atonga kudaro, asi aine mhosva? Neraki, muNetherlands tinogona kuendesa zvikumbiro zvekuongorora kuburikidza neDare Repamusorosoro. Vanhu vazhinji vakazoonekwa kuti havana mhosva.

  26. Bert anoti kumusoro

    Handina kunyatsotarisa munyaya iyi, asi ndinoita sendinoyeuka kuti zvombo zvakarambidzwa uye zvinodhaka zvakawanikwa panguva yekupambwa kweimba yake muTH. Mhosva idzi dzese dzinorangwa muTH.
    Zvakaitika zvisati zvaitika zvingave zvisina kunaka zvakanyanya muNetherlands, asi hazvina kurongeka zvachose.

  27. David H . anoti kumusoro

    Zvekare, chokwadi chekuti NL. zviito zvehutsotsi zvakabuda pachena muThailand naVan laarhoven, uye chokwadi chekuti akatongerwa ivo, kwete kunyanya mamiriro eimba yekofi, asi izvo hazvinyatso kumuisa muchiedza chakanaka pakati peThais.

    Kuendesa iyo mari pasina zviziviso, kutenga nzvimbo + dzimba kuburikidza nevechitatu mapato, sevatorwa vasingabvumidzwe kuva nepfuma yeThai. Chombo chakawanikwa zvakare, pamwe muzita reThai, asi chinofanirawo kunge chakatariswa kuti mafingerprints aive ani pachiri?
    Muchidimbu, handifunge kuti anofanirwa kupedza makore makumi maviri muchitokisi cheThai, asi haasi munhu asina mhosva.

    Zvinondinetsa kuti kana izvi zvikaitika kune munhu akapfuma, kamwe-kamwe vese vezvenhau uye shamwari dzezvematongerwo enyika muNetherlands vanotora matanho. , uko pasina mubvunzo kune vamwe vane mhosva uye pamwe vanhu vasina mhosva mumajeri eThai, izvo zvisina kuverengerwa,
    Tinozviziva isu pachedu zvakare uye zvakare!

    Ini pachangu, ndinofunga kuti maThais achaona izvi sekuvhiringidza maitiro avo emutemo, uye izvi hazvizopi chero mukana kuJVL.

    • Erik anoti kumusoro

      David H, kubvunzana padanho rehushumiri haisi nyaya diki! Basa rakawanda rekugadzirira rakaitirwa izvi uye iyi inhanho yakakosha kumberi. Dai pakanga paine 'kwete' kana kusagutsikana kukuru kubva kudivi reThai, Grapperhaus angadai asina kusiya.

      Hurukuro naBen Bot yakabudiswa nhasi ne rtlnieuws.nl uye anosimbisa kukosha kwerwendo rwemushumiri. Kana zvisina kudaro vangadai vasina kuita chinhu uye vakamirira mutongi muThailand; Mushure meizvozvo, Van L anogona kunge ari muNetherlands mukati memwedzi mitanhatu pasi pechibvumirano.

  28. Prawo anoti kumusoro

    Kune avo vanoda nhau kubva kumapepanhau eDutch, heino chinongedzo chechinyorwa chiri muNRC yanhasi https://www.nrc.nl/nieuws/2019/08/20/grapperhaus-naar-thailand-in-zaak-coffeeshophouder-ongenoegen-bij-om-a3970628#/next/2019/08/21/

  29. janbeute anoti kumusoro

    Ko Netherlands ichatumira riini gurukota rezvemari kuThailand kumusangano nemumwe wake wekuThailand?
    Vanogona here kutaura nezve kubhadhara kaviri mutero pane yedu AOW uye ABP penjeni?
    Izvi zvinoshandira vazhinji vekuDutch vakasiya basa zviri nani.
    Ndinotya kuti izvi hazvizomboitike, hazvina kukosha sezvakaita van Laarhoven.

    Jan Beute.

  30. KhunKarel anoti kumusoro

    Zvinosuwisa kuona kuti vanhu vazhinji pano paTB Van Laarhoven vanotora tsotsi rakaipisisa rakakodzera kurangwa muThailand. Ini handikwanise kufungidzira kuti kune vanhu vanoshuvira mumwe munhu kuti agare mugomba reThai, kunyanya sezvo paine nyaya yekunzvenga mutero isati yaratidzwa.

    Kana nyika yeNetherlands yaizotanga kutanga nekusunga shamwari dzedu kubva kumabhangi, iyi ingava kutanga kwakanaka, panzvimbo yekugadzira murume akwegura anorwara nemudzimai wake.
    Mabhanga ndiwo matsotsi makuru pasi pano, anobira mabhiriyoni uye akatipinza mukuderera kwehupfumi kwemakore. Ini hapana chandinoona kusungwa, mafaindi chete ayo anokwana zvikamu zvishoma kubva muzana zvezvakapambwa zvavo.

    Mugadziri wemotokari yekutanga (Germany) iye zvino akazosungwa, uye pedo kadinal yekutanga (Australia), saka pane zvishoma zvekuita, asi zviri kufamba zvishoma nezvishoma, zviri pachena kuti sei, ndinofunga, ELITE! good old guys network, vashoma vakabairwa kuchengetedza runyararo.

    Ndinoda kutaura pamusoro peHashish (ini handizvishandisi ini) kusvika ikozvino hapana imwe nyaya inozivikanwa yemunhu akafa mushure mekusvuta Hashish, kunyange nekushandiswa kwenguva refu hapana vanotambudzwa, izvi hazvina kufanana nekuputika. muropa kana heroin junkie, sezvinofunga vamwe vaverengi pano.
    Saka handisi kunzwisisa ruvengo rwavamwe vanhu kuna Van Laarhoven pano pablog. Munyika matova neruvengo nenhamo zvakawandisa, saka nei muine utsinye?

    Nenzira, Die Grapperhaus zvakare inyaya isingavimbike, chero munhu anotevera nhau anoziva zvandiri kureva, maererano nekuridza muridzo uye chiito kune vatori venhau. Haiwa, ndiani angaramba achivimbwa? Ndoda kunwa doro naVan Laarhoven pane naHerr Grapperhaus.

    KhunKarel

    • Erik anoti kumusoro

      Khun Karel, ndoda kuenda newe kuti unwe doro newe, asi zvinosuruvarisa kuti uri kurasikirwa nepoindi kana zvasvika kuna Van L.

      Van L akawana mari yepamutemo muNetherlands kubva mukutengesa cannabis. Uye mari hombe yakawanikwawo, asi nanhasi haisati yave PROVEN kuti chitsotsi chakaitika.

      Asi akatenga real estate muThailand nemari yemushonga. MuThailand uku kunonzi kubira mari yezvinodhaka. Kubira mari hazvireve kuti mari yacho/yaive nhema. Van Dale anoti kubira mari ndiko, uye ini ndinodzokorora, 'kuisa mari zviri pamutemo nekudyara (mari nhema)'. MuThailand, kuisa mari inowanwa kubva muzvinodhaka kunorangwa semhosva. Kunyange kana yakawanikwa zviri pamutemo kune imwe nyika.

      Vanenge vatongi vaviri muThailand vanotaura izvi uye zvinogamuchirwa pasi rose; Iyo Netherlands zvakare ine mutemo wekuranga vanobata vana vanogara kunze kwenyika muNetherlands nekuda kweizvi. Uye usakanganwe Sekuru Sam ne'kuchengetedzeka kwenyika' yavo…. Ndinovimba mutongi wedare reThai anofunga zvakasiyana, asi zvinogona kunge zvisina maturo….

      Mhosva yekutanga yakaitwa zvakapusa zvikuru. Pakanga pasina mhinduro kumibvunzo iri nyore kubva kumutongi, asi chii chaunoda kune gweta rinouya kuNetherlands uye rinoti 'Ndakaunza Bangkok Post neni, saka mutongi anogona kuona kuti ndave ndiri pano ...' . Clumsiness pazvakanakisa apo Van L achikwanisa / achikwanisa kuwana magweta epamusoro.

      Van L aigonawo kupa vapi vezano vakanyanya, asi akasarudza kuenda kuThailand. Hindsight… asi kuona kumashure kuri nyore.

      Zvinosuruvarisa, iwe unofunga kuti kutsigira nyaya yako (hongu, iyo nyaya chaizvoizvo ...) unofanira kupa mabhangi kadhi tsvuku uyewo Grapperhaus. Uye makadhinari. Mabhangi uye pedos, zvakachipa zvishoma, Khun Karel.

      Grapperhaus mushumiri uye sekunyora kunoita Ben Bot nhasi, gurukota rinongobhururuka kuenda kuThailand kana paine chekutaurirana. Saka chimwe chinhu chakafanorongwa nevakuru pamativi ese uye munguva pfupi, mushure mekufadzana uye nguva yekutsikisa, mativi ese achasaina chibvumirano umo, kuwedzera kune yakawanda blah blah, zvinonzi kutapwa kwaVan L uye. mudzimai wake achasvika kumagumo uye kuti vachaita mamiriro anogona kuenda kuNL. Ipapo zvese zvakataurwa naVan L pamamirioni ake akabatwa muThailand anogona kupera uye anogona kuzvidzivirira muNetherlands achipomerwa mhosva dzisati dzamhan'arwa ...

      Mumakore makumi maviri, mushandi wehurumende akakundikana Van Delft achagashira ribhoni yake 'yakakodzera' chinyararire uye mumakore makumi mana hapana achaziva kuti Van L aive ani. Tinogona kunetseka, asi L zvakare ingori kadiki munhoroondo. Asi iyo nzvimbo ndeye polder uye kwete muThai pigsty.

  31. SirCharles anoti kumusoro

    Zvese mune zvese, zvinoshamisa kuti Grappenhaus, gurukota rinoda kuti mhemberero shoma muNetherlands dzideredze kushandiswa kwezvinodhaka, anoenda zvake kuThailand kunosunungura mutengesi wezvinodhaka mujeri... 😉

    • Cornelis anoti kumusoro

      Iwe unogona kunge wakazvipotsa, asi Imba yedu yeVamiriri vakasarudzwa nedemocracy yakakurudzira mushumiri kuti atore matanho, mushure mezvo akabvuma kuzvipira kutamira kuNetherlands.
      Yakanaka uye iri nyore kuiridza pamunhu.

      • SirCharles anoti kumusoro

        Wadiwa Cornelis, ukasadaro tarisa izwi rekuti 'irony' mune chero duramazwi uye, kune ruzivo rwako, iyo yakasungirirwa winking smiley inewo chinangwa chaicho.

  32. Kees Janssen anoti kumusoro

    Ndichiri kushamisika kuti grapperhaus pachake anouya.
    Mumiriri angadai akaita izvi zvakadaro. Zvinoreva here kuti embassy haina basa nazvo? Tichifunga nezvese maitiro akanyorwa pano, zvinotendwa kuti Van Laarhoven akasungwa zvisina tsarukano.
    Asi bvunza musungwa ari mujeri kana ane mhosva. Vazhinji vachapindura kuti havana mhosva uye vakaiswa mujeri zvisiri izvo.

  33. Martin anoti kumusoro

    Kana vaThai vakachenjera, vanongobata murume. Makore mashoma apfuura vakarega mumwe munhu achienda kuNetherlands. Uyu akanga asungwa kwemakore 9. Handizivi kureba kwechirevo. Asi kurangwa kwake kwakanga kusati kwapera. Paakasvika kuNetherlands, akabvumirwa kuenda kumba nokukurumidza, nokuti mutongo waakanga atongerwa muThailand wakanga wakaderera zvikuru muNetherlands, wakapfupika kupfuura makore 9. Ini handifunge kuti izvi zvine ruremekedzo kune vaThais. Izvi zvave zviri munhau muNetherlands. Kudzivisa vanhu kudanidzira kuti: “kunobva kupi?” Ndinokupa zano kuti uite google.

  34. Alex anoti kumusoro

    Zvaive nekushamisika kunowedzera kuti ndakaona nhamba yemhinduro uye ndikaverenga mazhinji acho ...
    Kana kuti nyika ichaguma!
    Chete nekuti tsotsi rezvinodhaka, chitsotsi, mutero uye anobira mari ari mujeri reThai. Zvino tozotumira MINISTER kuti agadzirise izvi? Incredible.

    Chikumbiro cherubatsiro rwemutemo chakambotumirwa kuThailand nekuti Van Laarhoven aifungidzirwa nezvenyaya dzakati wandei. Izwi rokuti fungidziro naizvozvo rakakodzera chose pano.
    Ini ndinofungidzira vazhinji vaverengi nevanyori pane ino bhuroka havasati vambopihwa chikumbiro chemutemo chekutumirwa? Sei? Nekuti isu hatifungirwe nezvekuita kwemumvuri ...

    Icho chokwadi chekuti mapurisa eThai pachake akatora chiito uye akamutarisa isarudzo yeThai. Uye kwete pasina chikonzero. Mishonga, zvombo nemotokari dzinodhura zvakawanikwa mudzimba dzake, uye haana kukwanisa kuratidza kuti akaunza sei mari yacho kuThailand. Saka yakaunzwa kuThailand zvisiri pamutemo uye yakawachwa pano. Uye iyo imhosva huru muThailand isina chekuita nemawaniro aakaita miriyoni yake, asi nekuunza kwaakaita mari yake yese pano zvisiri pamutemo ndokuibira.
    Akazopomerwa mhosva muThailand! Ndizvozvo!

    Ini handinzwisise kuti nyaya iyi yave kukwirisa kudai.
    Ani naani anopisa matako ake anofanira kugara pamapundu. Ndizvo zvazvinoita.
    Kune vanhu vangangosvika makumi maviri vechiDutch mumajeri eThai. Pachave nekupokana kwakadaro pamusoro peizvi, uye tichazotumirawo gurukota kana munyori wehurumende kuThailand here? Saka kwete!
    Vanogona kungoora muchitokisi cheThai...
    Uye van Laarhoven, anozviisa munzvimbo yekubatwa, achitsigirwa nevezvenhau, uye dzakawanda dzeshamwari dzake uye vanomunzwira tsitsi, zvakare pano pane ino blog...
    Uye kunze kunoitirwa iye uye tinotumira mumwe wevakuru vakuru vehurumende ...!

    Zvakave nekushamisika kukuru kuti ndakaverenga akawanda emhinduro pano pane ino blog, uye ndakazviona ndichikwenya musoro wangu.
    Ehe, kushanya kwese kwakagadzirirwa zvakakwana kune mushumiri, uye hazvisi pasina chikonzero kuti ane nguva yekusangana neMutungamiriri weThailand! Asi vanozivawo kuti haambofi akabatira makore 20 aakatongerwa kuNetherlands. Saka mubvunzo unoramba uripo kuti hurumende yeThai ichapindura sei pane izvi.
    Asi ndine chokwadi chekuti NL haisi kuzotumira mushumiri kudzoka asina chinhu...
    Izvozvo zvingava kurasikirwa kukuru kwechiso chehurumende yeDutch uye Imba yeVamiririri avo vakasimbirira pane izvi ... uye sezviri pachena havana dambudziko nekupa zviuru zveeuro nokuda kwerwendo urwu rwehurumende kuti vasunungure mumwe munhu akaita mhosva huru muThailand. .

    • Joop anoti kumusoro

      Kudos nemhinduro kubva kuna Alex. Nzira yakaderera-pasi uye yechokwadi.
      Avo vanonzwira VaVan L. urombo zvikuru uye vanozivisa kubatana kwavo neruzha (runyepedzeri uye rwekunyepedzera) vachipokana nezvinonzi kusaruramisira kwavakaitwa vanofanira kunyatsozviongorora voedza kusiyanisa chakanaka nechakaipa ( vakagumbuka. )
      Icho chokwadi chekuti Gurukota Grapperhaus ari kuenda kuThailand kunoitira nepaanogona napo tsotsiwo zvake zvine chekuita nenyaya yekuti anoda kufarirwa nemamwe madenderedzwa.
      Vanhu vanofunga kuti VaVan L. munhu asina mhosva uye akanaka havasi veboka reshamwari dzangu.
      Hurumende yeDutch inogona kushandisa zvirinani simba rayo uye kutarisa kumatambudziko ane hunhu hwevanhu veDutch vane mitemo yeThai visa uye mabhangi achivharira kugona kwavo kubata account muThailand.

      • Alex anoti kumusoro

        Ndatenda Joop nemhinduro yako.
        Iniwo handidi kuverenga pakati peshamwari dzangu vamwe vanhu vanopa zvese nenzira yakamonyaniswa uye vanodzivirira VL "nemoto nebakatwa".
        Hapana chikumbiro chekuwedzera chakambotumirwa, asi chikumbiro chekubatsira kwemutemo chakaitwa, izvo zvinoitika chete kana mumwe munhu achifungidzirwa ... Ndizvo zvakajeka sei!

    • Erik anoti kumusoro

      Alex, ruzivo rwako rwefaira haruna simba.

      Ingoverenga mutongo wedare rekutanga, mutongi akakwanisa kuziva kuti ndedzipi mari, riini uye sei zvakaendeswa kuThailand uye kuburikidza neyakajairwa kubhengi. Hapana chakavanzika pazviri.

      Iwe unotaura mota dzinodhura semhosva, asi ini handizviverengi mumutemo weThai. Zvinodhaka uye chombo chiri mumba: izvo zvakashumwa nemutori wenhau weThai uye iwe unozvitora sezvisina basa. Van L haana kupomerwa mhosva yeizvi, asi mudzimai wake angave akave.

      Iwe unotonga zvakaomarara kumutarisiri; unoona kushanya kwemushumiri sechinhu chisina basa. Zvakanaka, hazvisi zviduku! Ndakaona Grapperhaus paTV nhasi mushure memusangano wake padanho repamusoro reThai uye kutaura kwake kwakajeka: kwete makore, pamwe kwete mwedzi. Izvi zvinoreva kuti kubatwa kwakashata nePublic Prosecution Service muNetherlands kunogona kugadziriswa pakupedzisira.

      Asi ... kune mazana mana ezvitoro zvekofi muNetherlands zvinotengesa cannabis. Kana varidzi kana vashandi vanobhadharwa vakaisa mari yavanowana muThailand, tichava neimwe nyaya yakaita seiyi. Ndinovimba kuti BuZa ichaisa izvozvo panzvimbo yayo seyambiro. Uye kwete zveThailand chete……

      • KhunKarel anoti kumusoro

        Hapana chakaipa neruzivo rwako rwefaira Erik, asi semhedzisiro, zvinosuruvarisa kuti haugamuchirwe kofi naAlex naJoop. 🙁
        Ini ndinofunga kune varidzi vezvitoro zvekofi vasingatomboshinga kuenda kuzororo kuThailand zvakare.
        Ini ndoziva mumwe munhu aive nechitoro chekofi munguva yakapfuura uye kunyangwe iye haadi kuenda kuThailand. Usati wazviziva ndiwe mukuru munyika dzemhando idzi. 'zvakachengeteka zvirinani pane urombo', sezvatinotaura.

  35. TheoB anoti kumusoro

    Kubatsira kweiyi nyaya yese ndeyekuti inotumira (zvakajeka?) chiratidzo kuhurumende yeThai kuti mudemocracy hurumende yakasarudzwa inofanirwa kuita zvinosarudzwa neruzhinji rweparamende. Uye kuti hurumende inogamuchira mutongo wesangano risina rusarura.
    Pane zvayakaipira, asi pane zvakanakira.

    Asi ini handinzwisise kuti sei Minister Grapperhaus vakagamuchirwawo neMutungamiriri wePrayut. Rutte akadaro. handipo pamusangano uyu. Ipapo unogona kugamuchirwa nemurume (X) ari kutonga mazuva ano.

  36. Prawo anoti kumusoro

    Grapperhaus anogona kuratidza izvo zvaanogona kuwana muBangkok
    Kubira mari

    Commentary
    Iyo vhezheni yechinyorwa ichi yakaonekwawo muNRC Handelsblad muna Nyamavhuvhu 23, 2019

    Minister Grapperhaus (CDA, Justice) vari parwendo rweku Bangkok, zvakanyanya kuodza mwoyo kwePublic Prosecution Service muBreda. Anoda mvumo yokubvumira musungwa wechiDutch kuti apfuurire kubatira mutongo wake muNetherlands. Chikonzero chaive mushumo wakashata kubva kuNational Ombudsman pamusoro penzira iyo muridzi wechitoro chekofi cheBrabant nemukadzi wake wekuThai vakaendeswa mumaoko eThai Justice system neNetherlands. Migumisiro yacho yakanga isina kuenzana, tsananguro yePublic Prosecution Service 'haisi kuvimbika'. Uye hurongwa hwese hwaive 'husina hanya'. VePublic Prosecution Service vakaronga muchidimbu vaviri ava mumamiriro ezvinhu ekuferefeta kwavo izvo zvisina kufambira mberi zvakakwana. Vaviri ava vakatongerwa kugara mujeri kwemakore 103 ne18, avo vanofanira kugara makore makumi maviri negumi nemaviri zvichiteerana.

    Pachezvayo zvakanaka kuti The Hague, pamwero wepamusoro wezvematongerwo enyika, ane hanya nezvekuguma kwevasungwa veDutch kune dzimwe nyika. Zvinogona kuita izvozvo kazhinji - Grapperhaus arikugadza muenzaniso neiyi mission, mune imwe nyaya yaive pamoyo yaive kukanganisa kwekutonga kweDutch. Uyezve, mishoni yaGrapperhaus inosangana nechishuwo chakajeka cheImba yeVamiriri.

    Nekudaro, vakuru veBreda kesi vanoona izvi sekupindira 'kwevezvematongerwo enyika' mune imwe mhosva yemhosva. Mushure mezvose, mukuru anofungidzirwa, pamwe chete nevamwe muNetherlands, achiri kufungidzirwa mari yekubira, kubhadhara mutero uye kuve nhengo yesangano rematsotsi. Grapperhaus inogona kukanganisa kugadziriswa kwemamiriyoni makumi maviri emadhora navo. Uye nekubvisa mukana wePublic Prosecution Service - kuvharirwa kwavo - nekuda kwezvikonzero zvevanhu. Kuti gurukota rinongoramba rakasiyana kusvika mamiriyoni makumi maviri agamuchirwa. Mubvunzo zvino ndewekuti: Hurumende ingashandise mutongo wekunze wemujeri wakawanwa kuburikidza nekunyengera kutenga mhosva pano? Ndiko kutamba kwakashata, kuchiteverwa neblackmail. Zvinoita kuti Public Prosecution Service yakambotsvedza zvakanyanya, nekuti Hurumende yave kuda kuita purofiti kubva pamaitiro aimbove nemhosva.

    Izvi ndezvehukamawo pakati pegurukota nePublic Prosecution Service. VePublic Prosecution Service inhengo yedare redzimhosva rakazvimirira here iro gurukota rinongotaura pamusoro pebhajeti? Kana kuti sangano rakakosha rekuita riri pasi pehutongi hwegutsaruzhinji, rine mushumiri anogona kupa mirairo yese. Uye zvakare zvinotenderwa zviri pamutemo kupindira munyaya dzemunhu mumwe nemumwe, nemhando dzese dzedziviriro dzemutemo dzinoitirwa kudzivirira kupindira mune zvematongerwo enyika. Simba iri ririko zvechokwadi, asi hariwanzo shandiswa kana kusamboshandiswa. Basa raGrapperhaus naizvozvo harina kusimba mubumbiro uye mune zvematongerwo enyika.

    Kusagutsikana kunobva kubasa, hofisi yemuchuchisi wehurumende muBreda, iyo yakakurumidza kuzivisa mushure memheremhere kuti yakanga isina zvachose 'kusafara', pasinei ne "zvinorehwa nevamwe vezvenhau". Nyaya yekuti sachigaro weBoard of Attorneys General aramba akanyarara inoratidza kuti nyaya iyi yakakurumidza kutsikirirwa. Nharo pamusoro pekuti Public Prosecution Service yakazvimiririra sei, kana kuti ingave, inogara ichinakidza, asi inoda chikonzero chiri nani pane ichi. Grapperhaus yakasimba pano uye inoshandawo mukati memutemo. Mushure memutongo wakasimba weOmbudsman, Public Prosecution Service ingadai yakatarisira kuzvininipisa zvakanyanya. Saka izvi zvakaitwa nekukurumidza. Grapperhaus zvino anogona kuratidza izvo zvaanogona kuwana muBangkok.

    Kunobva: https://www.nrc.nl/nieuws/2019/08/23/grapperhaus-mag-laten-zien-wat-hij-in-bangkok-kan-bereiken-a3970883


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