Attestation de Vita
Nokuda kwezvikonzero zvoga, ndakasarudza kurega kushanda makore mashomanene ndisati ndasvitsa makore 65. Izvi zvaigoneka nekuti ndaigona kushandisa chirongwa chekukasika pamudyandigere pahomwe yepenjeni, yandakabatana nayo nemushandirwi wangu.
Hapana chinhu chinokosha pachacho, icho chakanga chakarongwa nomutoo wakarongeka, negore rimwe nerimwe ndaigamuchira tsamba kubva kuhomwe yepenjeni kuti ndione kana ndakanga ndichiri mupenyu. Izvi zvinodaidzwa kuti Attestation de Vita, (chitupa chehupenyu) fomu raunozadza naro data rako pachako wobva waita kuti ribvumidzwe nevakuru venzvimbo vane hunyanzvi. Iwe unogona ipapo kupupura izvi kune notary, horo yedhorobha, mapurisa ekubvakacha kana embassy.
Kekutanga pandakatora fomu rakapedzwa kuhofisi hombe yevanyori iri padyo neni pano muPattaya uye ne1100 Baht ndakawana chitambi chaidiwa pafomu. Ndinogona kunge ndakashanyira iyi hofisi zvakare gore rakatevera racho, asi nomumwe wandaizivana naye ndakasangana nekambani duku umo vakadzi vaduku vaviri vaiita basa romunyori wemagweta. Chitambi chepamutemo chakadaro hachisi chinhu zvachose uye kubva ipapo ndakabatsirwa zvakanaka pamari inotapira ye150 Baht.
Nguva yandakatanga kusvika, ndakasiya fomu ndokudzoka zuva raitevera. Mumiriri akanga azadza zvinhu zvose zvakanaka, asi akanga azadza musi waigona kufa rufu nepenzura, asina chokwadi kana ndicho chaiva chinangwa. Ndakati kwete izvozvo hazvizadziswe kusvika ndafa chaiko uye kana zvakadaro ndichadzoka kwamuri kuzozadzisa zuva iroro. Humor, iyo isiri neimwe ChiThai mukadzi hit!
Mutengo wekutanga we1100 baht wanga usiri dambudziko kwenguva shoma, asi pandakasvitsa makore makumi matanhatu neshanu ndakafara kuti ndakanga ndava mutengi wevakadzi vevanyori. Pamusoro peAOW, ini zvino ndinogamuchira mudyandigere kubva kuzvikamu zvitanhatu zvakasiyana uye homwe yega yega yepenjeni inoda Attestation de Vita kubva kwandiri gore rega rega. Kuti ndidzivise nhaurirano, ndinongotaura kuti kubatanidza mapenjeni iwayo zvaisaita munguva yangu, chinhu chinoita sechakajairika mazuvano. Tarisa, ikozvino mutengo we65 kana 6 Baht unoita mutsauko mukuru, handizvo here?
Sezvo ndatumira mari yose yepenjeni yaAttestatie de Vita yaidiwa, mumwe wavo akandinyorera tsamba achitaura kuti vaizorega kuita izvi. Vakanga vapedza chibvumirano neSocial Insurance Bank (boka rinotarisira penjeni yenyika yangu) uye vachagamuchira zvinodiwa. ruzivo kubva ipapo. An Attestation de Vita haichadiwi kwavari. Hurongwa hwakanakisa, hwandakazivisa dzimwe homwe dzose dzepenjeni. Mumwe akanyora achipindura achiti ipfungwa inofadza, mumwe aizoidzidza. Kana zvikaitika zvachose, iyo pfungwa ichafanirwa kuenda kuburikidza neakawanda mabureaucratic uye manejimendi zvigayo, saka kurerutsa kunotora nguva kuuya.
Iyo Social Insurance Bank inodawo gwaro rehupenyu rakadaro gore rega rega, asi ini handigone kungotumira yakazadzikiswa, yakadhindwa Chiratidziro kuNetherlands. SVB ine hurongwa neThai SSC, sangano rakafanana, rinotarisa fomu zvakare rozoriendesa kuRoermond, hofisi yekunze. Iyo SVB inotaura kuti fomu rinogona kutumirwa kune yemuno SSC nepositi, asi ini handina kuvimba nazvo zvachose.
Hofisi iri padyo nePattaya iri muLaem Chabang uye ndakakumbira shamwari yangu kuti ipe aya mafomu. Zvaive nyore kufunga, nekuti - ndakatozvitaura - hofisi inoda kutarisa fomu zvakare uye ndaifanira kuuya ndega. Saka ndaifanira kuita rwendo rwemakiromita makumi maviri ini pachangu, ndakabata mafomu nepasipoti, uye fomu racho rakapfuura nepo nenhambo nomumwe mukadzi ane ushamwari zvikuru. Mibvunzo yaisashanda kwandiri yakabatwawo uye yese yakatemwa neNO. Zvinhu zvose zvakarongeka uye zvino ndinongofanira kuvimba kuti mapepa achatumirwa kuRoermond, kuitira kuti mubhadharo wangu weAOW (wangogamuchira mubhadharo kubva muna May, kaviri mari nokuti yakawedzerwa nemari yezororo!) Haisi pangozi.
rombo rakanaka. kuti unogona kuenda pamudyandigere pamberi pemakore makumi matanhatu nemashanu, fungidzira kuti unobva pamberi pa65. Izvo zvakasiyana kune avo vakazvarwa mushure me1950, avo vasingabatanidzwe mune zvese.
unakirwe zvakanaka.
Ndakaberekwa muna 1945, muFrench, uye ndakakurumidza kurega basa pazera ramakore 58. Ndakanga ndiri wekupedzisira, nekuti hurongwa hwakazonyanya kudhura. Kukurumidza kuenda pamudyandigere kwakada kuenzana nemari yandaitambira panguva iyoyo.
Iye zvino mushure memakore makumi matanhatu nemashanu, mari yacho pachayo yadzikira zvishoma, zvakanyanya nekuda kwekuzorora kwemudyandigere, asi ndakamboona izvozvo ndikavhara gaka neinshuwarisi ye annuity.
Uye….. hongu Frans, ndinonakidzwa nazvo zvizere!
Hongu, ndiani anofunga kuti kana aine makore gumi nemana uye anofanirwa kuenda kubasa, achafanirwa kuenda pamudyandigere, kwete ini.
Uye hongu, kupera kwepenjeni! zvakanaka mira kusvika ndasvitsa 65.
Pandakanyorera penjeni yangu yehurumende, ndaifanira kutumira mafomu acho kuSSO (munyaya iyi: Prachuab Khiri Khan, ndakazvitora ini!). Zviri pachena kuti receptionist aisataura chirungu saka munhu akabva kuhofisi yekuseri. Muchidimbu: haana kunzwisisa kuti zvaive nezvei. Pakukumbira kwake ndakabva ndaisa michinjikwa inodiwa ini ndokubva mukadzi (amwewo akanaka) akati: kwakanaka here? Ndakati kwete: unofanira kufambidzana, kuisa chidhindo uye kusaina fomu. Okay mai vaya vataura futi, tichaita izvozvo tokutumirai. Kwete, unofanira kuitumira kuSVB. Okay tinoita.
Kuti ndive nechokwadi, ndakatumira email kuSVB kuti chikumbiro chaendeswa. Ndakagamuchira email kumashure ichiti handifanire kuendesa chikumbiro kuSSO, asi chete chirevo chekunzwira tsitsi! SSO yaifanira kuongorora kana chirevo chaive chapihwa nevakuru vechokwadi (munyaya yangu hofisi yekubvakacha (300 Baht)..SVG yakanditumira mafomu matsva ekunyorera uye zvakanyorwa pamusoro apa: isa chikumbiro kuSSO kuThailand!
Ipapo ndakatumira email kuSVB zvakare ndokuti: ratidza maitiro chaiwo, ipapo ini ndinogona kuzivisa vamwe vanhu vechiDutch nezvazvo! Vakanyora kumashure zvakanyanya-mutengi-ane hushamwari: zvese zviri pawebhusaiti (kwete kudaro).
Mukupedzisira zvese zvakafamba zvakanaka, asi kunyatsogutsikana neSVB ………., kwete kwete!
Zvinoshamisa kuti gore rega rega unofanirwa kufamba kubva kuSVB kusvika kuLaem Chabang, makiromita makumi maviri kubva kuPattaya, kunopa bepa iro ipapo. Vanhu vazhinji vechiDutch vanogara muThailand vanogara muPattaya/Jomtiem nenzvimbo dzakatenderedza.Asi SVB haina basa nazvo. Saka hapana hofisi pano, kwaunogona kuenda nyore. Kungofanana neMinistry of Foreign Affairs, iyo isina consulate pano. Dzimwe nyika dzakawanda dzeEurope dzakawanda
"zvimwe mutengi-ane hushamwari" kune vamwe vavo maLong Nuts uye vane consul pano. Tese tinofanira kuenda kuBangkok. Tanga waita mahwekwe kuburikidza newebhusaiti yeembassy, izvo zvinogoneka chete manheru uye zvino zvinotora anopfuura maawa maviri kuenda. Asi hongu, Netherlands yaizoita kuti inakidze isu isu vanotama. Simba rinongova revashandi vehurumende.
"Attestation de Vita" (chitupa chehupenyu)
Mushure mekuzadza fomu reMvudziro uye fomu rekuwedzera reThailand Treaty, unogona kuita kuti ritariswe neThai Immigration Office.
Wobva wazviitira makopi uye zuva rekutumira kune SSO.
Usavimbe kuti zvinhu zvichafamba!
Imwe kero yandakawana:
Yekuchengetedzwa Kwemagariro Hofisi
88/28 – Moo 4 – Tivanond Road
T. Talad-Kwan A. Muang
Nonthaburi 11000
kwaziso,
Louis
Kana iwe uine yero Tambien Baan, rezinesi rekutyaira reThai, unogona zvakare kuita kuti chirevo chidhindwe nekusainwa muAmphur yemuno.
Hapana mari….
Uye kune imwe nguva yekuenda pamudyandigere, kune akasiyana mari yepenjeni apo vanhu vanobva mushure me1949 vanogona kutora mudyandigere nekukurumidza.
Semuenzaniso, Spoorwegpensioenfonds, murume haachashandire NS, zvechokwadi anokwanisa kutora mudyandigere nekukurumidza pazera re61 nemwedzi 2 pahwaro hwemakore makumi maviri nemashanu emipiro yepenjeni yakabhadharwa.
Uye kubva munaSeptember 1955
Ehe shamwari?
Hongu!
Pfungwa iwe, vazhinji vanoenda pamudyandigere vanotora nguva yekurega basa vachifunga.
Kana wakambobhadhara mari yepenjeni nguva isati yakwana, unofanira kutarisa kuti poto yepenjeni haisati yaiswa muhomwe yepenjeni here, kana kuti mushandirwi anobhadhara mari yepenjeni nguva isati yakwana pamunhu mumwe nemumwe kuhomwe yepenjeni kana akakurumidza kuenda pamudyandigere.
Ndinowanawo mafomu aya kakati wandei pagore.
Ndiri kuendesa kumukuru wemuno wandakawana kubva kuSVB.
Mushandi ane hushamwari zvikuru anototimhoresa patinopinda. Zadza fomu pamwe chete, inwa kapu yekofi uye uende kumba.
Kubhadhara? zero point zero
gerrit
Knock! muno muChiang mai zvakare kubhadhara 0,0!
Ingoenda kuCity Hall (emigration) yakashongedzerwa netsamba kubva kuSVB uye pasipoti yangu, kumba ndakatozadza mune zvese zvisingabvumirwe, asi mukadzi akandiitira pakutanga akange anyora zvese ne "hongu", saka ... zvinhu zvose zvakadzoka (kukanganisa kwake) ikozvino ndinogona kuzviita ini nekuda kwekushayikwa kweDutch pane chikamu chake, izvo zvakajairika, zvakarurama? achiri kukumbira ruregerero pane zvakaitika kare, anoisa zvitambi zvakakumbirwa + siginicha uye aita! uye IKO/APA pakutama, vanotova nemahamvuropu akadhindwa ebrown NEKero yeRoermond yatove pairi! Kune zvakare hofisi yeposvo pane saiti uye ndinotumira tsamba yangu netsamba yakanyoreswa, iyo inodhura 240 THB uye ndizvozvo, saka ndadzoka kumba mumaawa maviri uye ndinofanirawo kutyaira 2 km, hongu ikoko nekudzoka, chete. email SVB kuti chinhu chakakumbirwa chiri munzira uye kana chasvika, ndinoda kusimbiswa kubva parutivi rwako, uye mushure memazuva 36/10 ndine chisimbiso.
Ndinonzwisisa kubva mumhinduro kuti ava vanhu vakatama.
Ndichiri kunyoresa muNetherlands uye ndinogara muThailand kwemwedzi gumi neimwe pagore.
Ndinowanzo dzokera munaKurume kuti ndigadzirise mitero yangu uye ndipfuure nemurwi wetsamba. Ndinozivisawo mari yangu yekurapa uye kana ndichine nguva ndinoshanyira mhuri neshamwari.
Pane munhu anganditsanangurira zvakanakira nekuipira kutama here?
Chokwadi ndiri kunyanya kuda kuziva nezvedivi rezvemari.
Mitemo munoiziva here?? Mushure memwedzi misere unofanira kudzima kubva kukanzuru yeNL, kana kuti unogara ipapo kuti urambe uchiwana rubatsiro rwemwana, semuenzaniso? Kana kuti iwe uri mumwe wevanhu mazana mana vanogamuchira KB mukukanganisa?
Mwana kubatsirwa???, ndine 66.
Saka funga usati waparadzira nhema dzakadaro.
Ndiri kubvunza mubvunzo uri serious, saka ndoda mhinduro iri serious.
Ini ndicharamba ndakanyoreswa muNetherlands nekuti handizive kuti mhedzisiro yacho ndeipi.
Kwete, handizivi mitemo iyoyo.
Saka handikwanise kuenda kuzororo mwedzi gumi neimwe pagore?
Anodiwa Hans,
Kana iwe uri muNetherlands kweisingasviki 4 mwedzi, iwe unozobviswa kunyoreswa
iyo manejimendi yakakosha manejimendi Ndosaka iwe usina inishuwarenzi yechiDutch
zvimwe.Hausisina mari yemba yekubhadhara imba here kana kuti unoramba uchibhadhara rent yemba panguva iyoyo kana kuti unogara nemumwe munhu,kana kuti postal address unayo?
Kana kuti iwe unobhadhara imba muNetherlands neThailand?
Iwe unoshanda kubva kuNed. kambani muThailand kana kuti unogara ikoko semudyandigere, hausi mutsauko mukuru.
Ingori mibvunzo mishoma yakauya kwandiri kuti izvi zvinogoneka sei.
kwaziso,
Louis
Ndatenda nekutaura kwako Louis.
Ndine imba yangu muNetherlands uye imba yangu muThailand.
Handina chikwereti chemari.
Ini ndiri AOWer nepenjeni diki.
Ndine inishuwarenzi yehutano uye inishuwarenzi yekufamba.
Ndinoenda kuNetherlands kamwe chete pagore uye dzimwe nguva kakawanda nekuda kwemamiriro emhuri. (chinhu chakanaka inishuwarenzi yekufamba iripo)
Mubvunzo wangu ndewekuti mhedzisiro yemari ndeye kutamira kuThailand.
BV: ini ndichagamuchira yangu gross/net pension?
Ini zvino ndinobhadhara pamusoro pe200 euros pamwedzi mumitengo yehutano.
Ndakadarowo.
Kwaziwai Hans
Anodiwa Hans,
Ndeipi mhedzisiro yemari yekugara muNetherlands kweisingasviki 4 mwedzi?
asi kana uchigara kunze kweEurope mune iyi kesi Thailand yakasiyana pane imwe nyaya.
Semuenzaniso: kuroora kana kufambidzana (kazhinji neThai), ungave uine (wemba) muNetherlands uye imwe inishuwarenzi yehutano yakasiyana maererano nekuvharirwa pasi rose.
Uye ndeipi sarudzo inoita munyika ipi yekubhadhara mutero wemari.
Fomu rekunyorera re
chibvumirano chekuzivisa.
Izvi zvinosanganisira AA Inishuwarenzi Hua Hin [email inodzivirirwa] kupa ruzivo nezve
inishuwarenzi yehutano. (vanhu vanotaura chiDutch, mamwe mahofisi ari
zvirokwazvo sarudzo yako)
Ndokumbira utarise kuti iwe zvakare ucharamba uine inishuwarenzi mushure memakore makumi manomwe ekuzvarwa uye kuti chero zvirwere zvekare hazvizodaro
kusabatanidzwa.
Kusvika ikozvino chero ruzivo.
kwaziso,
Louis
The Soc. Bhengi reinishuwarenzi uye Thai SSC muPhetchaburi vanongogamuchira zvirevo kubva kuMunicipality kana mumiriri weDutch. Chirevo changu kubva kune imwe hofisi yevanyori chakarambwa munguva pfupi yapfuura.
Rwendo rwekuenda kuembassy runonditora mazuva maviri nekuda kwemaawa mashoma ekuvhura. Kuti uve nenguva pakugadzwa kwekutanga kunoitwa, kugara kwehusiku muhotera kunodiwawo
Ndakataura kakawanda kuti humbowo hwakanakisa hwekuti uchiri kurarama kuvandudzwa kwemvumo yako yekugara gore rega rega. Asi masangano ose emudyandigere ane mitemo yawo.
Anodiwa Gringo,
Kutamira kuPattaya kunoisa chitambi uye siginecha pane chitupa chehupenyu. Free.
Mubvunzo wese kuSSO unopindurwa ne: iwe unofanirwa kuuya nemunhu, asi kubva kuNetherlands inovimbiswa kuti kuitumira yakakwana. Ndichaitumira ndoita kopi kuti ndive nechokwadi. Ini ndinotumira email iyo email kuNederlnad ine meseji yekuti zvese zvakatumirwa kuSSO. Izvi zvaigara zvichifamba zvakanaka. Sara mushe,
Dick Koger
Kungogadzirisa kudiki, Attestation de Vita inogara iine E kumagumo. Unogona kugara uchienda kuSSO kuti uwane statement kuti ubatsire mupenjeni wako.Vakazvipira kuisa siginicha yekuti urimupenyu. (uye hapana mari)
Kuno MuChiangmai vanhu vane hushamwari, uyezve munhu haafanire kukanganwa kuti kubvira 2004 pane chibvumirano chekusimbisa pakati peNL neT.
Anodiwa Gringo
Nekuda kwepenjeni dzakawanda, ndinofanirawo kuzadzisa “umbowo hwehupenyu” hwakawanda uye kuva neruzivo rwakafanana naDick Kroger.
Ini ndinozadza mafomu ini, ndoenda nawo kune vanopinda muJomtien, ndinogara muNongprue (kunze kwePattaya).
Mukuru weimmigration anoisa chitambi nemasaini ake pachiri asina chaanobvunza uye asina kana kumbochitarisa, asingabhadhari zvachose.
Ini ndozotumira fomu reSVB kuSSO muChonburi.
Haana kumbova nedambudziko nazvo.
Anodiwa Hans G.
Ndofunga watove pamudyandigere.
Kana iwe uchiri kunyoresa muNetherlands, unogona kunyorera iyo SVB zvakadaro. uye inishuwarenzi yehutano haigari kunze kwenyika kweanopfuura mwedzi 6 inoteedzana.
Saka nemwedzi gumi neimwe muThailand uri kutyora.
Ini ndinokupa zano kuti udzike register muNetherlands, izvo zvinokupa mukana wemutero mune chero mamiriro ezvinhu, nekuti unogona kunyorera kusunungurwa pamutero wemari.
Iwe unozobviswa kubva kuinishuwarenzi yehutano (mari yekurapa),
Wobva waita shuwa kuti unotanga watora yakavanzika inishuwarenzi yehutano muNetherlands.
Kune makambani mashoma anokupawo inishuwarenzi iwe kana uchigara kunze kwenyika.
Nekuti kana zvisina kudaro iwe unofanirwa kuzvichengetedza pano muThailand, uye izvo hazvina kunaka.
Zvinoshamisa sei, nezve 11 months idzodzo.
VeMunicipal vakandiudza kuti kana ndiri kunze kwenyika kwe more than 8 months, ndinofanira kudzima kunyoresa. Asi kana iwe ukachengeta kero pano (ndine imba yangu) uye uchiramba uchisangana nezvose zvaunosungirwa, iwe ucharamba uri muDutch mugari, saka hazvifaniri (???)
Inishuwarenzi yangu yehutano inongovhara rubatsiro rwechimbichimbi kunze kwenyika, saka ini ndakatora inoenderera yekufamba uye hutano inishuwarenzi kune chero zvidiki zvinokanganisa.
Uye kana ndikadzokera kuNetherlands, semuenzaniso nekuti ndiri kurwara, inishuwarenzi yehutano inongotora zvisungo zvese zvakare.
Nenzira, HANDISI kuwana rubatsiro rweAOW, saka handizivi kana mimwe mitemo inoshanda.
Wadiwa Truus,
Inishuwarenzi "inoenderera" yekufamba uye yehutano inowanzongori chete
Inoshanda kwemwedzi mitanhatu munguva yakatevedzana yekugara kune imwe nzvimbo.
Kana iwe ukaenda mumugwagwa zvakare mushure memwedzi wechitanhatu, nguva iyi inoshanda zvakare.
Kana inishuwarenzi yako yakasiyana, ndinoda kugamuchira iyo kero.
kwaziso,
Louis
Ndine inishuwarenzi yekuEurope inoenderera mberi, inongoshanda kwemwedzi miviri isati yasvika yeCentraal Beheer yeinishuwarenzi yekufamba zvachose.
@Leo:
kutaura kwako “Wobva waita shuwa kuti unotanga watora inishuwarenzi yehutano yakazvimirira muNetherlands. Kune makambani mashoma anokupawo inishuwarenzi iwe kana uchigara kunze kwenyika. Nekuti kana zvisina kudaro iwe unofanirwa kuzviitira inishuwarenzi pano muThailand, uye izvo hazvina kunaka. "
Ndinoda kunuance zvishoma.
Iwo mapakeji ekunze anopihwa nenhamba yevaDutch inshuwarisi yehutano anowanzo kudhura zvakanyanya kana uchikura. Saka nguva dzose zviri nani kutanga kuona kuti ndezvipi zvingasarudzwa mumunda weinonzi "expat" inishuwarenzi, iyo inowanzova yakachipa zvakanyanya.
Nekudaro, kutora pasuru kunze kwenyika neDutch insurer yehutano isarudzo yakachengeteka kune vanhu vasingakwanise kutora inishuwarenzi muThailand nekuda kwemamiriro akange aripo, kana chete nekusabatanidzwa kune njodzi.
Ramba uchifunga kuti izvi zvinofanirwa kurongwa iwe uchiri kunyoresa muNetherlands.
zvakanaka
Ndine makore 65 ekuberekwa uye ndinewo mudyandigere wehurumende
Ndakanyoreswa kuNetherlands uye ndine imba yekurojesa.Ndinobhadhara 561 euros mwedzi wega wega
inishuwarenzi yehutano ndinobhadhara 141, maeuro pamwedzi
Ini ndave muThailand kwemwedzi misere yakatwasuka, ndiri kutyorawo here?.
Zviri nani here kuti ndinyore zvangu exhaust.Ndinodawo izvozvo, asi zvinofamba sei.
Mubvunzo urinani, asi iwe unofanirwa kudzima zviri pamutemo kana iwe uri kunze kweNetherlands kwemazuva anopfuura 182 pagore. Zviri nyore: iwe unoenda kuhoro yedhorobha munzvimbo yako yeNL yekugara uye uzvinyore. Inogona zvakare kuitwa nekunyora kubva kuThailand. Tarisa webhusaiti yeguta rako.
Dambudziko rinogona kunge riri rekuti unorasikirwa neinishuwarenzi yako yehutano. Ipapo iwe unofanirwa kuwana inishuwarenzi yehutano kumwe kuNetherlands (Univé?) Kana iwe unofanirwa kutarisa muThailand (AA muHua Hin).
Ndatenda Mr Hans Bos.
Aya mashoko akanaka. Chitanga ipapo.