Ko AOW haitorerwe sepenjeni ine chekuita neNon immigrant OA?
Vadiwa vaverengi,
Ndiri kuenda munaNovember 2019 pamwe pamudyandigere uye ndinoronga kutamira kuChiang Mai mwedzi mina gare gare. Ndinoda kuva nechokwadi pamusoro penzira yandinofanira kubata nayo, maererano nevisa (visa faira paThailandblog inobva ku2016 uye chimwe chinhu chingave chakachinja panguva ino).
Ndinofunga kuti ndinofanira kutanga ndanyorera vhiza isiri-immigrant O (kamwechete kupinda) muNetherlands. Ipapo ini ndinofanira kunyorera "yekuwedzera yekugara zvichienderana nekurega basa" (inonziwo asiri mutorwa OA Long kugara vhiza kana Retirement vhiza) muThailand pane iyo isiri-immigrant O visa. Ndizvo here kusvika parizvino?
Kana zvakadaro, ndine mubvunzo. Kana ndangosvika kuThailand pane yangu isiri-immigrant O visa, ndingakurumidza here kunyorera "visa yekurega basa" kana kuti ndinofanira kumirira mazuva makumi matanhatu?
Mumwe mubvunzo. Ndichakurumidza kuwana mari yepamwedzi ye € 1.000 paAOW uye mari yepamwedzi ye € 900 pamudyandigere. (zvakazara pamusoro peinodiwa 65.000 Baht pamwedzi). Nekudaro, pane dzimwe nzvimbo dzeThai zvinoratidzwa kuti iyo 65.000 Baht inofanirwa kunge iri yemudyandigere chete uye kuti AOW haitorerwe sepenjeni (iyo faira reMutero paThailandblog rinotiwo AOW haitorerwe sepenjeni).
Pane munhu anogona kujekesa izvi? Kana chete mari yangu yepenjeni yechokwadi ye € 900 kuverenga, saka handifi ndakakwanisa kutamira kune wangu wandinoda Thailand uye ndinogona kumisa gadziriro dzangu.
Ndinokutendai zvikuru mberi kwemhinduro dzenyu dzinobatsira.
Kwazisai,
Peter
Mari yacho inofanirwa kunge iri 65000 baht.
Pension, AOW, zvichingodaro.
Mari yese uye kana zvichibvira ok kune embassy.
Yako AOW inongoverengera semari. Vanhu vakawanda varikukumbira humbowo pakupinda munyika kuti unotamisa 65.000 kana 40.000 thb pamwedzi kubva kuaccount yako yechiDutch kuenda kuThailand.
Ramba uchifunga kuti kukosha kweEuro kuri pasi pekumanikidzwa kukuru uye iwe unowana shoma thb ye € 1900. Parizvino chete 66.500. Saka zviri tight.
zvakanaka
Pfungwa ndeyekuti iwe unogona kuratidza iyo 65.000 baht pamwedzi.
Iwe unogona (uchiri) kuita izvi kuburikidza netsamba yekutsigira visa kubva kumumiriri.
Uye zvechokwadi pension yako yenyika inoverengerwa kune izvi.
Zvichida mune ramangwana kuti tsamba yekutsigira vhiza haichazopihwa, saka unofanirwa kuratidza kuburikidza neakaundi yako yebhangi yeThai kuti 65.000 baht inoiswa muaccount kubva kunze kwenyika mwedzi wega wega. Kana iwe uine 800.000 yekugezera muThai bank account ingangoita mwedzi miviri usati watanga kunyorera iyi inonzi vhiza retirement, haufanirwe kuratidza chimwe chinhu.
Asi penjeni yako yehurumende inoita semari.
Izvi hazvinei nechokuita nevhiza isiri-immigrant, pakati pezvimwe zvinhu.
Sezvawakataura iwe pachako, unogona kunyorera vhiza isiri-immigrant kumumiriri weThai muNetherlands
Uye muThailand unogona kunyorera kuti uwedzere kana kugara uchibva pamudyandigere mushure memazuva makumi matanhatu.
Ndagara pano kwemakore 9 uye ndagara ndiine mari inosanganisira AOW pamwe nepenjeni. Pakushuma mari yandakawana, handina kumboityora, nguva dzose mari yese. Embassy inoburitsa statement yemari yekushandisa paimmi haina kupatsanurwa. Immi haabvunze chero chinhu pamusoro peizvi, anongotarisa mufananidzo wakazara. Ivo pamwe havatomboziva kuti AOW chii.
1. Unogona kunyorera munhu asiri mutorwa “O” Single entry.
Izvi zvinokupa kugara kwemazuva makumi mapfumbamwe paunosvika. Iwe unogona ipapo kuwedzera nguva iyoyo yekugara negore rimwe. Unogona kutanga kunyorera kwegore rekuwedzera mazuva makumi matatu (dzimwe nguva mazuva makumi mana nemashanu) mazuva makumi mapfumbamwe asati apera, nemamwe mazwi kubva pamazuva makumi matanhatu (kana mazuva makumi mana nemashanu) mushure mekupinda unogona kunyorera yekuwedzera kwegore. Kunyangwe chikumbiro chaendeswa nemazvo mukati memazuva makumi matatu apfuura (mazuva makumi mana neshanu) hazvina kukosha. Kuwedzerwa kunogara kuchitanga kushanda mushure memazuva makumi mapfumbamwe. Saka hapana chaunowana kana kurasikirwa nekutumira chikumbiro munguva pfupi kana gare gare. Zvechokwadi, kumirira kusvikira zuva rokupedzisira haisi pfungwa yakanaka.
Ndokumbira utarise kuti kana ukabva kuThailand panguva yekuwedzera kwegore, unofanira kutanga wanyorera "Kupindazve". Kana ukasaita izvi, iwe ucharasikirwa nekuwedzera kwegore kana uchinge wabva kuThailand. Kana iwe uine imwe, pakudzoka kwako uchagamuchira nguva yekugara inoenderana nezuva rekupedzisira rewedzero yako yegore, nemamwe mazwi iwe unozogamuchira yako yapfuura zuva rekupedzisira rewedzero yako yegore kumashure.
Kuwedzerwa kwegore hakuna kufanana neNon-immigrant "OA" Multiple entry visa.
Sezvazvinotaura, "OA" isiri-immigrant ivhiza uye kwete yekuwedzera.
Iwe unogona kunyorera "OA" Asiri-mutorwa ekupinda akawanda pamumiriri weThai (kwete pakutamira kuThailand). Iwe uchafanirwa kupa mamwe magwaro kupfuura Asiri mutorwa "O", akadai sehutano uye humbowo hwehunhu hwakanaka.
Paunopinda muThailand neNon-immigrant "OA" Multiple entry visa, unogashira kugara kwegore rimwe pachinzvimbo chemazuva makumi mapfumbamwe, nekupinda kwega kwega mukati menguva yechokwadi yevisa. Ita zvishoma kuverenga, senge imwe "yemuganho kumhanya" nguva isati yapera, uye unogona kugara muThailand kweanoda kusvika makore maviri (ita shuwa kuti mushure menguva yechokwadi iwe unonyorerawo "re-entry" pano pamberi. unobva kuThailand).
Usakanganwa kuita kero mushumo panguva yekugara kwemazuva makumi mapfumbamwe muThailand uyezve imwe neimwe inotevera mazuva makumi mapfumbamwe ekugara.
Zvakare ita shuwa kuti waudzwa kune immigration ne TM30 fomu paunosvika kwaunogara.
2. Pension, AOW, kana mari ipi zvayo yakanakira kutama.
Chero bedzi ingangoita 65 Baht kana iwe uchingoshandisa mari sehumbowo hwemari. Iwe unozoda "Visa Tsigiro Tsamba" kubva kumumiriri sehumbowo.
Iwe unogona zvakare kushandisa huwandu hwebhangi hunosvika 800 baht muThai bank account. Izvi zvinofanirwa kunge zviri 000 mwedzi yekutanga uye 2 mwedzi yezvikumbiro zvinotevera. Unobva wada tsamba yekubhangi uye kopi yebhuku rako rekubhangi sehumbowo.
Pane zvakare sarudzo yekushandisa mari uye mari yebhangi. Pamwe chete iyo inofanirwa kuve 800 baht pagore. Tsamba yebhangi, passbook uye tsamba yekutsigira visa zvinozodikanwa sehumbowo.
Pakupedzisira, pane gadziriro itsva. Iwe unofanirwa kuendesa inokwana 65 baht mwedzi wega wega. Bhengi slip nepassbook zvinodiwa sehumbowo. Pakunyorera kwekutanga, humbowo hwedhipoziti inogona kunge isingasviki gore rimwe, kune zvinotevera zvikumbiro unofanirwa kupa humbowo hwemwedzi gumi nemiviri yapfuura.
Zvichida zvakare kutaura kuti iwe unogona kuwedzera nguva yekugara yakawanikwa ne "Non-immigrant "OA", nenzira imwechete uye mukati menguva imwechete (30 kana 45 mazuva asati apera), kureva mwedzi 11 panzvimbo yemazuva 60 mushure mekupinda.
Chekupedzisira, pane hurongwa hutsva hwekutamisa 65.000 baht. Izvi hazvishande kana iwe uchienda ku800.000 baht mubhangi, handiti? Ini ndinongokumbira kuti utaure zvese zvinodiwa mari uye iyo 2 baht chirongwa panzvimbo yechipiri.
Iyo dhipoziti yepamwedzi ye65000 Bath ndeimwe yezvisarudzo zvina. Unogona kusarudza.
Mushure mekutengesa kwese kwemazuva mashoma apfuura, zvinofanirwa kuve pachena kuti kana uine THB800K mubhangi, haudi chero mamwe marudzi ezvitupa zvemari? Mune mamwe mazwi: kana iwe usina / usingakwanise kuburitsa THB800K chero nzira, uye usingakwanise kuratidza, semuenzaniso netsamba yemumiriri, kuti une mari yakakwana, saka dhipoziti yepamwedzi yeTHB65K inyaya zvakare. Somuenzaniso, kune mumwe munhu ane makore 60 okukura, pashure pezvose haasati ari mudyandigere.
Hongu Frits, ndangokumbira Ronny kuti ave nechokwadi. Chaizvo ini ndinotevera zvinyorwa zvake kuti ndirambe ndichitevera uye ndishandise iyo 800.000 baht chirongwa ini pachangu. Asi, uye iyi ndiyo poindi, verenga mazuva mashoma apfuura pane ino blog kuti mukuwedzera kune aya mazana masere ezviuru vamwe Immigration vanodawo kuona shanduko kana kufambira mberi mune iyi 800.000 kana kuti vanhu vanogara sei pedyo neiyi 800.000 baht. Ini ndinozviita ini kubva kune yakaunganidzwa capital yandinayo kumwewo. Uye hongu, kuratidza kuti kana, semuenzaniso, ukashandisa kadhi rebhangi rekunze uye bhangi rekunze kuwedzera kune yakatarwa 800.000, iyo inoramba yakafanana gore rose muakaundi yebhangi yeThai, zvakanyanya kuoma kuti mukuru atarise, kana akabvunza.
Zvakanaka Ger,
Mutemo wekubata TBH 8 tons ndewekuti: mari iyi inofanirwa kunge yagara muakaundi yako mwedzi mitatu isati yamutsiridzwa vhiza repagore. Ndizvo zvakare zvinoziviswa nebhangi uye zvinoonekwa kubva mubhuku rako rebhangi. Kana ikareba, hazvina basa. PaImigration, ndezvekusimbisa kuti iwe unogona kuve neTBH 3 p/m kwegore rinouya. Pamusoro pazvo, TBH 65.000 tons yakaenzana neTBH 8 p/m.
Kunyangwe iwe uchinyatso shandisa iyi dhipoziti / chiyero kana kwete ichave kunetseka kwavari. Ngatitii vakaona gore rinotevera mari yacho (zvichida yakawedzerwa nemhindu) ichiripo uye iwe wakamira pamberi pavo kuti ukumbire kuwedzerwa, ivo vanobva vaziva kuti une mari inokwana kwete kuti wafa nenzara.
Saka kuchinja-chinja kwehuwandu hakuna basa, chero ingori TBH 8 matani kwemwedzi mitatu usati wakumbira kuvandudzwa.
Bye Frits.
Ndatenda nemhinduro yako.
Iwe unoti "Kana ndisina 800.000 Bath uye ndisingakwanisi kuratidza kuti ndine mari yakakwana, ipapo chete (mumamiriro ezvinhu akadaro) ndinogona kuisa 65.000 Bath mwedzi wega wega.
pane nyaya.
Saka kana ndikakwanisa kuratidza kune embassy kuti ndine mari inokwana 65.000 Bath pamwedzi, handifanire kutamisa iyo 65.000 Bath?
Handisati ndambonzwa izvozvo…asi unogona kutaura chokwadi. Ndichiri kuda kuongorora nemi.
Ndatenda nemhinduro yako.
Peter
Kugomera….
Zvinogamuchirwa. Handina kumbobvira ndaita dambudziko nazvo.
Ndine mudyandigere wehurumende uye mudyandigere diki kwazvo we98 euros. Izvi zvinokwana vhiza rangu repagore. Iniwo ndinongogara mwedzi mitanhatu kubva pazuva kuti ndigone kuchengeta inishuwarenzi yangu yehutano muNetherlands.
Izvi hazvingave zvakanaka Foodlover! Nekuverenga nekukurumidza iwe une ingangoita TBH 45.000 p/m. Uye nekudaro kushomeka kweinenge TBH 20.000 p/m.
Ndapota tsanangura.
Zvakanaka, dai AOW yanga isiri (zvekare) inosanganisirwa, vazhinji vemunharaunda vaizopinda mudambudziko. AOW ingori penjeni mukuona kwangu. Nenzira, zvine chekuita nemari yako kubva kuNetherlands uye hazvidiwe chero kupi kuti iyi ipensheni chaiyo.
Saka usazvidya moyo. Kwemakore ndashandisa mari yangu yese (AOW + penjeni) muChiangmai "yakasimbiswa" neNL Embassy yekuwedzera vhiza yegore. Kusvikira NL Embassy, pamirairo yeThe Hague (saka kwete pamirairo yeThai Immigration !!) kamwe kamwe yakatanga kuita zvisinganzwisisike (munhu aifanira kushanyira Embassy, kusimbisa mari yako nemagwaro, ayo Embassy yaizotarisa zvakare, nezvimwewo). Kushanya kuEmbassy ikoko kwakazomiswa nekuda kwekuratidzira. Pane kudaro, chiyero chakakwira zvakanyanya "nekuti munyoreri akange asisafanire kubhadhara mari yekufambisa kuenda kuEmbassy".
Ndakabva ndafunga kuchengeta TBH 8 tons kubank. Zvakanyanya nyore uye zvishoma kunetseka.
Petro,
Ndinofunga kuti wakarasa kana kuzvidudzira zvisizvo.
Zvakanyatsojeka.
Mari yese ine chekuita nemudyandigere (isisiri kushanda) inoonekwa semari yepenjeni muThailand. Tsananguro uye Q&A yetsamba yekutsigira vhiza inosanganisira iyo inotevera quote:
"Kunyangwe chikamu cheAOW / pension chikaramba chakafanana, shanda gore negore
magwaro anotsigira anofanira kuendeswa paunenge uchinyorera visa
tsamba yekutsigira?
Ehe. Chikumbiro chega chega chinoongororwa chega uye chinofanira kupihwa
kururamisa mari. Pasina magwaro anotsigira, embassy haigoni kubhadhara mari yacho
mutsamba yekutsigira vhiza. "
Ergo AOW uye pamwe penjeni inobatsira zvese zviri zviviri. Kana zvisina kudaro, vashomanana chete vanogona kuwana kuwedzerwa kwekugara. . Ndakagamuchira kuwedzera kwangu kwekugara (ini ndine makore 58) ndisina mudyandigere kana rubatsiro rwepenjeni chete pahwaro hwe "pre-penjeni" / redundancy kubhadhara. Saka haufanire kuzviona zvichityisa kudaro.
Uyezve, zviri pamutemo kuti iwe unogona kukumbira kuwedzerwa kwako kwekugara mumazuva makumi matatu apfuura. Ndinoziva kuti haisi hofisi yese yekubvakacha inoomesera pane izvi. Asi kushandiswa kwakananga kazhinji hakushande. Asi usamboti usambofa. TIT (zvichida nemari yetii padivi)
Uyezve, iyo mambure AOW huwandu hwe2019 hwakadai seanotevera:
Net € 1.146,51 (kusanganisira kiredhiti yemutero) € 918,76 (pasina mutero wechikwereti).
Petro,
Ini handisi nyanzvi, asi neasina immo visa single entry unogona kugara muThailand kwegore.
Mushure megore rino, iwe unofanirwa kunyorera zvekuwedzera kubasa rekubvakacha mukati kana pedyo nenzvimbo yako yekugara.
Ndanga ndichiita izvi kwemakore gumi pasina dambudziko nechirevo chemari (tsamba yekutsigira vhiza) kubva kumumiriri weNL muBangkok.
AOW inogamuchirwa sepenjeni kana annuity.
Kunyangwe iwe uri pamusoro peiyo 1900 THB muganho ne65000 € inoramba ichionekwa uye zvechokwadi zvinoenderana nechiyero chekuchinjana panguva ino pamabhati makumi matatu neshanu pa€, saka zviri pese pese. Asi izvo zvinogona kugadziriswa neimwe bhengi yekuwedzera kwemwedzi mitatu mubhangi reThai.
Kwete, neasiri mutorwa O Dingle yekupinda unowana nguva yekugara kwemazuva makumi mapfumbamwe. Ndizvo zvose.
Iwe unogona ipapo kuwedzera iyo nguva yemazuva makumi mapfumbamwe pagore kana ukasangana nezvinodiwa zvekuwedzera kwegore.
Kuwedzera kune yapfuura:
Imwe 72 euros yakawanda pamwedzi inowedzerwa kuAOW, Holiday pay inobhadharwa muna Chivabvu. Izvo zvine basa zvakare.
Usanetseka Peter! AOW inonyanya kukosha penjeni, penjeni yenyika. Uye zvechokwadi izvozvo zvinokosha. Ingoramba uchigadzirira uye uchitarisira kudziya Thailand. (Haambotonhore tsoka, kunyangwe pasina masokisi)
Anopinda haataure kuti huwandu hwe1000 ne900 euros hwakakwana here kana mambure. Mambure emari anoshanda. Muchiitiko chekutama kwakazara uye nekudaro kudzimwa kubva kune (yekare) nyika yekugara, zvichienderana nekwawakashanda, unogona kukumbira chibvumirano cheTh/NL kusvika pamudyandigere. Izvo hazvishande kune vaimbova vashandi vehurumende vanogara vachiramba vachibhadhara mutero wemari uye nekudaro vane zvishoma zvekuita nazvo. Ndinovimba zvicharamba zvichikuitira zvakanaka panguva iyoyo, asi hapana vimbiso yeizvi. Zvingave zvine hungwaru kuchengetedza imwe mari, kuitira kuti iwe ugozokwanisa kuendesa mari iyi kubhangi reThai account gare gare uye woishandisa kune retirement application.
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Ndatenda Jacques nemhinduro yako.
Mari yataurwa neni imari izere.
Pandinotarisa mu "My pension overview" pane mambure akazara e € 2.000 pamwedzi kubva pazera rangu rekuenda pamudyandigere.
Ini handisi kunyatsonzwisisa mutsara wako nezvekukwanisa kukwidza chibvumirano cheThai-Dutch.
Handisi mushandi wehurumende, uye handisati ndambova. Chibvumirano ichi chaizondibatsira sei? .
Ndinokutendai zvikuru nemhinduro yenyu.
Peter
Mhoro Peter, zvandinoreva nazvo ndezvekuti semushandi asiri wehurumende unogona kukwidza chibvumirano uye saka wonyorera kuregererwa kubva kune zviremera zvemitero muNetherlands. Iwe unofanirwa kubvisirwa uye kunyoreswa muThailand uye kunyoresa nevakuru vemitero ipapo. Izvi zvinongoshanda uye zvinodikanwa kuita mushure memwedzi mitanhatu (kungobva pamusoro pemusoro wangu) muThailand. Zvakawanda zvakatonyorwa nezve iyi blog uye zvinowanzokonzera matambudziko pandinoverenga mameseji mune ino uye / kana iyo nzira. Iwe unofanirwa kuratidza kune veDutch mutero zviremera kuti une pamutemo uye chaiko pekugara muThailand. Vakuru vemitero vanowanzoda fomu kubva kuvakuru vemitero muThailand rawakanyoreswa uye unosungirwa kubhadhara mutero ipapo. Nepenjeni diki sezvaunoratidza, haufanire kubhadhara muThailand, ndinofungidzira. Kana kuregererwa uku kuchipihwa nevakuru vemitero muNetherlands, mari yese inozoenzana nemari yakabhadharwa nekuti haufanirwe kubhadhara mutero wemari muNetherlands uye unenge watosunungurwa kubva kumitengo yeZVW nezvimwe. Saka zvechokwadi zvakakosha kuti iwe ushandise izvi munguva yakafanira.