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Mubvunzo wemuverengi: unofanirwa kuunza mumwe wako weThai kuNetherlands kana kuti kwete?
Vadiwa vaverengi,
Ndakazivana nemukadzi wechiThai kubva 2015. Iye ane makore 43 uye ini ndine makore 67. Anogara kuThailand uye ini ndinogara kuNetherlands. Tinoda kugara tese asi dambudziko nderechokwadi? Ndoda kusaenda kuThailand. Ndine vana nevazukuru uye saka ndinowana Thailand iri kure zvakanyanya.
Iye zvakare ane mhuri muThailand uye ndinotya kuti haakwanise kujaira kuNetherlands uye achasuwa kumba. Ini handifarire kuenda nekudzoka pakati peNetherlands neThailand zvakare. Handifarire kubhururuka uye zvinodhura zvakanyanya.
Vamwe vakaita sei izvi?
Kwazisai,
Tendeuka
Wadiwa Evert,
Ini pachangu ndiri mudiki kwauri nemakore mashoma, asi kwete zvakanyanya. Iniwo ndine musikana mudiki uye ndine iye anouya kuNetherlands nguva nenguva kwemwedzi ye3. famba uchienda nekudzoka.
Pamakore makumi matanhatu nemanomwe unenge wava neAOW, zvichida wowedzerwa nepenjeni.Tomboti watendera musikana wako kuti auye kuzogara newe, sezvaungangoziva iwe, anozotanga atevera kosi yekubatanidza.Uye chekutanga anofanira kutora bvunzo kuembassy yeMVV visa.
Iwe unozivawo here kuti iwe uchaderedzwa zvakanyanya pamudyandigere wako wehurumende, zvingaita here kumuunza kuNetherlands. Saka angangofanira kutsvaga basa muNetherlands.
Pamusoro pazvo, kubva munyaya yako hazvina kujeka kuti wakatosangana naye kuThailand here, kana kuti wakazivana naye kuburikidza neinternet.Apa ndinoda kutaura kuti hapana chakaipa pakuziva munhu kuburikidza ne internet.
Hongu ini handidi kukuodza moyo, asi pane akati wandei anopokana pane zvauri kuda.
zvisinei, ndinoshuvira kuti ubudirire mukuita zvirongwa
Kana iwe uchida kuenderera mberi nehukama, iwe unofanirwa kuita sarudzo. Iwe unogona nyore kuenda kuThailand. Kwaari, kune zvakawanda zvinonetsa zvinobatanidzwa mukuuya kuNetherlands.
Chikumbiro changu: unoenda kuThailand (overwinter) mwedzi mishanu kusvika mitanhatu pagore.
Kugara mundege kwenguva refu hakunakidzi. Iwe unogona kusarudza kutamiswa kweashoma kusvika kumaawa akawanda muDubai, Qatar kana imwe nyika inokanganisa rwendo rwunenge hafu.
Uye pamwe anogona kukushanyira iwe kuNetherlands kwemwedzi mishoma munguva yedu yezhizha.
Kubhururuka hakuna kudhura, asi kana iwe ukatarisa kunze uye uchichinjika maererano nenguva, unogona kudzokera kuThailand kubva ku440 euros.
Ngaauye kuNetherlands kakati wandei kwemwedzi mitatu. Ipapo ane zano zvakare kuti angazoguma ari kunyika ipi. Pandinenge ndiri kuNetherlands, mumwe wangu akatosangana nevakawanda vaanozivana navo vekuThai. Panogona kunge paine vakadzi vazhinji veThai vanogara mudunhu rako. Kana akasangana nazvo, anogona kuwana ruzivo nazvo. Anobva awana mufananidzo wakanaka wekuti vamwe kubva kuThailand vakatora sei danho; chii chinodiwa (maererano nemapepa uye kosi yekubatanidza) uye kuti kubatanidzwa kuri kufamba sei. Ipapo anogona kusarudza (uye iwewo) kuti ndechipi chinhu chine musoro kuita.
Wadiwa roja,
Pfungwa yekuti kuwana ruzivo nevazhinji vaunoziva veThai haina chokwadi, dzimwe nguva inogona kufamba zvakanaka, asi kubva pane zvandaona pano, izvo zvinowanzova nemubvunzo kana ukaona zvavanoedza kutaura kune mumwe nemumwe.
Zvinotaridzwa naRob zvinonzwisisika.
Chiitiko changu pachangu uye zvinoratidzwa nemukadzi wangu wekuThai ndezvekuti kuonana kwenguva pfupi ndiyo vimbiso yakanakisa yemufaro wemba, zvikasadaro matambudziko evamwe vanhu anozova dambudziko rako kana ukasangwarira.
Ndine dambudziko rakafanana. Ini chete ndiri 79 uye mudzimai wangu 41 mune ndakamuroora muAmsterdam pamberi pemutemo muna 2010 ndine mwanasikana ane gumi (akatariswa muNetherlands) chii chaunofanira kubhadhara kune zvese muThailand yekuchengetedza uye imba netsamba kubva kwandiri ndakavaka imba, yandisingambokwanisi kuva nayo nekuti ndiri farang.Ini ndine AOW + pension and that is more than enough for living, but you have to leave ned so you have no pekugara pano kana uchida kudzoka. Kana iwe ukaenda kunogara kuThailand, hauchakwanisa kushandisa inishuwarenzi yemagariro muNed uye inishuwarenzi muThailand inodhura zvekuti haichakwanisi kubhadharwa kubva mumari iyi. Zvekuita, ndeipi mhinduro chaiyo.
Wadiwa Harry,
Ini handibvumirani newe zvachose, asi chokwadi zvese zvinoramba zviri pachedu, iniwo ndiri 67 uye musikana wangu 43, anga achigara neni muNetherlands kubva pakati paMay.
Ini handidi kugara muThailand chero mamiriro ezvinhu, ingoverenga nyaya nezve inishuwarenzi yehutano, uyezve, kupisa kunondipengesa mushure memavhiki mashoma.
Musikana wangu akapedza kosi yekubatanidza ari ega uye, chokwadi, akapfuura nerubatsiro rwangu kuburikidza neSkype.
Ichokwadi zvakare kuti iwe uchaderedzwa pamudyandigere yako yenyika, asi ini ndinofunga kuti zvinoshandawo kana muchigara mese muThailand.
Uye zvakare, musikana waEvert muThailand angangofanirawo kuramba achishanda.
Kana iwe ukachengeta zvishoma kuti upfuure mumwedzi yekutanga paanouya kuNetherlands, zvinogoneka kupihwa hupfumi huri nani muNetherlands.
Musikana wangu anga atowana basa remumba muhotera mushure memavhiki matanhatu, izvo zvinopa mubairo wepasi, uye zvinoguma nemubhadharo wehutano we € 6.
Iyo rendi kana yemoti haichawedzeri kana muchigara pamwe chete, asi mutero wekanzuru uye bhiri remagetsi rinokwirawo zvishoma, asi ndizvo zvese.
Iye zvino achatanga kosi yechiDutch inopiwa nevazvipiri uye anotarisira kuwana basa riri nani paanongoziva mutauro wacho zviri nani.
Chero zvazvingava, isu tichapedza Gore Idzva nemhuri yake muThailand nekuti isu tinogona nyore kuchengetedza mari yetikiti nenzira iyi.
Saka mudiwa Evert, muchafanira kubvumirana pamwe chete, ndanga ndichingotaura chiono changu pano, asi izvi zvinogoneka.
nezvaRob
Evert, Matambudziko ako ndiwo mutengo uye kusagadzikana kubhururuka.
Zvinogoneka mhinduro:
- enda kuThailand 6-8 mwedzi pagore uye panguva ino regedza imba yako muNL (oops… chengetedzo yerendi) kana kurenda kamuri zvachose (kana iri munzvimbo yakanaka).
- nemari iyoyo yakawedzerwa iwe unobhururuka bhizinesi kirasi.
Ingogara muThailand, iwe unopa vana vako nevazukuru kero yakanaka yezororo (kuti vagone kukushanyira nguva dzose.
MuThailand iwe zvakare uchakwanisa kuchengeta yakati wandei yeAOW yako kuitira kuti dzimwe nguva uende kuNetherlands.
Ini pachangu ndine makore 71 uye ndanga ndichigara pano kwemakore matanhatu nemufaro nepfuma yangu yeThai
Ini handisi kunyatsoona kuti une zvakawanda zvakasara kubva kune vakaroora nyika mudyandigere muThailand, nguva yekupedzisira pandakatarisa yaive 608 euros pamwedzi. Kana iwe ukafunga kuti haugone kutora inishuwarenzi yehutano inogamuchirwa muThailand pamusoro pemakore makumi manomwe, uye kuti mari yezuva nezuva inonyatsoenderana neiyo muNetherlands, haisi mari yakawanda chete asiwo kusachenjera kugara muThailand. .
Kunyangwe muchigara mese muThailand, izvo zvaungade kusada, kana kumutendera kuti auye kuNetherlands, zvinodhura mari mune ese ari maviri. Kana akauya kuNetherlands, iwe ucharasikirwa nepenjeni yako yemazuva ano, kunyangwe aine mukana wese wekuwana mari nebasa. Uyezve, kunyange kana iwe usingadi kubhururuka iwe pachako, iye achada kushanyira mhuri yake nguva nenguva, uye haakwanisi kuvakanganwa mune zvemari.
Imwe mutsauko ndeyekugara muThailand, uko nyika yako yemudyandigere ichagadziriswa, uye uchafanirwa kubata neinodhura inishuwarenzi yehutano.
Kana iwe ukasawana mhinduro kubva kune idzi sarudzo, nekuti vese vane mutengo weti, inoramba yakaoma sezvinganzwika, chete inonzi hukama hweSkype hunosara, uye pamwe kuchinjisa mari nguva dzose, kumutsigira zvishoma mune zvemari. muThailand.
Kurasikirwa zvishoma pane yako AOW ???? Ndinofunga kuti 350 euros pamwedzi.
Mumwe wandinozivana naye akasiya basa, akaunza musikana wake weThai wemakore makumi mana nemaviri kuNetherlands kwegore nehafu uye zvino ane imwe mubhadharo weAIO bhenefiti inosvika 42 euros, iyo yakagovaniswa, iye 1380 pension, the zororo rinowedzerwa, mazana maviri namakumi mana nokuda kwake uye mazana maviri namakumi mana nokuda kwake, zvimwe zvingaitwa.Kwaziwai kwamuri pano.
Hachisi chokwadi kuti musikana wako anofanira kutevera kosi yekubatanidza kana achida kugara newe kwemwedzi mitatu inokwana. Kana ukamuvimbisa kugara, anongogamuchira vhiza kwemazuva anokwana makumi mapfumbamwe. Iwe unofanirwa kuendesa mamwe magwaro, senge kopi yesalary slip yako, aow bhenefiti kana pension yemudyandigere, nechikumbiro chevisa. Hazvina kuoma sekutaura kunoita vamwe pano,
Rene
Mashoko asina kururama zvachose. Mavhiza anowanzorambwa nekuda kwenjodzi yekugadziriswa, kunyanya mavhiza evashanyi.
Chisungo neThailand chinofanirwa kujekeswa, kureva tsamba kubva kumushandirwi wake, pfuma yakakura muchimiro chemba kana munda, kana kusiya vana vasati vakura.
Zvikasadaro, kurambwa kuchatevera.
Mhoro Evert,
Ndaimurega auye kuzororo kwemwedzi mitatu muzhizha uye munguva yechando unoenda kuThailand kwemwedzi mitanhatu kuti uchengetedze mari yakawanda yesimba.
ZVAKAITIKA ... Kana vakabatanidza (MVV) vanowana A1, vachagamuchira chitupa chemakore mashanu, asi muNetherlands vanofanira kupasa A5 mukati memakore matatu, iyo 3 miedzo.
Kwauri, penjeni yeAOW ichabva pa€ 1098,00 kuenda pa757,00 uye mari yezororo ichave yakaderera € 25,00. Kana zvese zvikafamba zvakanaka, unopihwa mvumo yemubereki mumwechete ye € 250,00 pamwedzi nepenjeni yako, iyo inopera uye imwe chete. mvumo yevabereki kubva pamutero ichaperawo. ,
Ndakapfuura neizvi (chisarudzo chakaoma) asi rombo rakanaka.
Kwazisai Dick
Value Evert,
Mari haitengi mufaro, ivo vanoti, ndinobvumirana nazvo, asi ndinoona mhedzisiro yemari kana mudiwa wako wekuThai akauya kuzogara newe muNetherlands. Mukutaura kwechokwadi, iwe unotanga kurasikirwa kupfuura EUR 4.000 pagore pane yako. AOW, nekuti hauna Kana uchigara wega, inishuwarenzi yehutano yekuwedzera yekuDutch inomubhadharira ingangoita EUR 1.200 pagore uye kosi yekubatanidza pachikoro chinozivikanwa sekuti makore 1 1/2 inodhura ingangoita EUR 4.000 imwe chete, iyo Inobviswa muzviitiko zvakasarudzika. Zvishoma. kana chero imwe mari yekuwedzera yezvipfeko zvake (yechando) uye zvimwe zvinhu zvemunhu zvinenge zvichidiwa kuNetherlands. Zvinoonekwa zvakare kana achizofanira (kuramba) kutsigira mhuri yake Thailand uye iye zvechokwadi achada kushanyira mhuri ikoko apo neapo uye izvo zvinodhura chimwe chinhu.
Kana mabhokisi ako 1 ne3 akazara zvine mutsindo, mari paIB inogona kungokupa zororo mushure mekunge agara muNetherlands kwegore.Zvisinei, unofanirwa kuve nemutero wepagore wemari inosvika EUR 50.000 kuti ugamuchire kuderedzwa pa Kuti ugamuchire AOW, kondirakiti ye notarial cohabitation inofanirawo kunge yagadzirwa. Chido chenhaka chinokurudzirwawo. Paachangotanga kushanda muNetherlands, mamiriro emari anogona kushanduka.
Zvisinei, kana akatanga kusuwa mhuri yake yeThai, zvichava zvakaoma, chisungo chemhuri muThailand chinowanzova pedyo zvikuru.Pakutanga, inenge zuva nezuva Skype kwenguva yakareba yakachengetedza hukama munyaya yangu nemusiyano wemakore makumi matatu. Ini ndaizozviedza kutanga mumamiriro ako ezvinhu ne30-6 mwedzi th. uye mwedzi mina (kana 8×4 mwedzi) Rega mhuri yako ikushanyirewo kuThailand uye uite chimwe chinhu chinonakidza navo.Zvisinei, unofanira kubva wanyorera vhiza repagore reThai/OA pamumiriri weThai muThe Hague uye Izvozvi kwete. mafaro pamazuva ese aya, kuti nditaure zvakapfava.Zvaita kuti ndisarudze kusatenga kondomu muThailand.Evert ndinoshuvira iwe hungwaru hwakawanda, usangotevera moyo chete asiwo shandisa musoro.
Thai gore negore multiple-o visa yakavakirwa pamudyandigere harisi dambudziko muThe Hague, chero uchikwanisa kuratidza mari yepenjeni uchishandisa tsamba kubva kuSVB. Kana zvichidikanwa, inofanira kuwedzerwa nekuratidza mari yakakwana mubhangi.
Ichokwadi kuti iwe unofanirwa kuita "muganho kumhanya" mwedzi mitatu yega yega muThailand kuti ugone kugara zviri pamutemo kwemwedzi mitatu inotevera.
Unobvunza kuti vamwe vakazviita sei. Iye zvino ndine makore 69, mudzimai wangu ane makore 42. Takasangana nomumwe mukadzi wokuThailand anogara neshamwari yangu kuNetherlands. Takatanga kuburikidza neemail uye Skype. After 4 months ndakamushanyira tichibva tabaya baya. Izvi zvaive makore anenge 7 apfuura zvino. Muna 2012, mudzimai wangu, takaroorana muna 2014, takapedza mwedzi mitatu muNetherlands. Izvo hazvina kubudirira, aiveko muna Chikumi, Chikunguru naNyamavhuvhu. Mwedzi wose waChikumi waitonhora zvikuru, kazhinji kazhinji kacho 3 degrees. July akanga asinawo kunaka, August chete akanga akanaka. Mudzimai wangu aigara achitonhora zvikuru uye akanga asingadi kugara muNetherlands. Ndakabva ndasarudza kugara naye kuThailand. Sezvo ndine chirwere cheshuga, ndakanyimwa inishuwarenzi. Saka handina inishuwarenzi, asi ndine mari yandakachengeterwa kuitira emergency. Mhedzisiro yesarudzo yangu, kutevera moyo wangu! Takavaka imba pano, uyewo imba yevaenzi, kuti igare mhuri inobva kuNetherlands. Kusvika pari zvino handisati ndademba chisarudzo changu uye handina chido chekuenda kuNetherlands. Ndine zvakawanda zvekuonana kuburikidza neinternet neshamwari dzechiDutch. Vazhinji vavo vanga vari pano nesu. Vamwe vachauya zvakare! Nekuda kwekuti ndakazvarwa 10 asati asvika, ndinotambira mari yemudzimai wangu inosvika €1950 pamusoro pepenjeni yangu yehurumende, yatakatowana mutemo usati wachinja muna 250. Handizivi kana zvichiri zvakadaro iye zvino. Ndicharamba ndichitambira mari iyoyo, mari yacho inogona kuchinja, izvi zvine chekuita nezera rake. Iyi mvumo inoshanda kune vese vakaroorana uye vakaroorana. Ndiripo kune chero mibvunzo.
Kana kubhururuka uchienda nekudzoka kashoma pagore hazvitombogoneki nekuda kwezvikonzero zvemari, ndinoshamisika kana iwe uchitokwanisa kumupa iyo chengetedzo yemagariro inotarisirwa.
Uyezve, inyaya yekuibvisa pahwaro hwezvawakatoratidza iwe pachako:
Unoenda kuThailand : Kwete sarudzo.
Anotamira kuNetherlands: Kwete sarudzo.
Kugara uchienda nekudzoka: Kwete sarudzo.
Zvasara: Kudanana kwakanaka kwezororo.
Zvakafanana nemasvomhu: Mamwe matambudziko haana mhinduro mukati memiganhu yakatarwa.
Chimiro chechimiro chisina kunaka…..
Nekuda kunodiwa kubva kwaari kubatanidza uye rubatsiro runodikanwa kubva kune mumwe wake, kubatanidzwa kunobudirira kune vanhu vazhinji.