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Thailand mubvunzo: Kuchembera muThailand kana muNetherlands?
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Tags: Vagari vakuru, Dementia, Vakwegura
Vadiwa vaverengi,
Ndakaverenga chinyorwa ichi muNRC uye ndanga ndichienzanisa nemamiriro ezvinhu pano muThailand.
https://www.nrc.nl/nieuws/2023/03/24/zorgredacteur-jeroen-wester-hielp-zijn-oom-in-zijn-zoektocht-naar-passende-zorg-en-verdwaalde-a4160382
Ndine vanhu 2 mumhuri yangu muno muThailand vane dementia, vese vari kuchengetwa nevana vavo uye nevanhu vanohaiwa uye zviri kufamba zvakanaka sekutonga kwandinogona.
MuNetherlands, hutano hwehutano hwave muenzaniso wemari umo murwere wese anofanira kukamwa.
Dzimwe nguva ndinotaura nafarang avo varikunetsekana nekuchembera uye kuti woita sei kana ukaita dementia, kudzokera kunyika yako?
Handizivi kuti zvinhu zvakarongwa sei muBelgium, asi ini pachangu ndinofunga kuti ndiri nani kuThailand mumamiriro ezvinhu akadaro. Unofungei pamusoro peizvi?
Kwazisai,
GeertP
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Dzimwe nguva ndinombofungawo zvandichaita kana ndachembera.
Zvese zvinoenderana nemamiriro emhuri yako wega.
Sezvaunonyora iwe, vanhu vaunoziva vanobatsirwa nevana vavo uye vanhu vanobhadhara.
Uye icho chinogona kunge chiri chikamu changu chekupedzisira chehupenyu muThailand.
Ndine hukama hwakanaka nevana vangu uye ndiri nhengo inokosheswa munharaunda yedu diki.
Sezvo ndiri 50+, ndanga ndichienda kuchipatara chemunharaunda mwedzi mitatu yega yega kunoongororwa ropa uye dzimwe nguva kutemberi kamwechete apo neapo. Ini ndinotoziva chaizvo mashandiro ehutano hwehutano hweThai uye ini ndatove nhengo yayo.
Chero bedzi vana vangu vachigara muThailand, vangangondichengeta uye/kana mudzimai wangu mukukwegura kwangu. Kune zvakare inshuwarisi yechipatara yega yega inogona kubhadhara mari yekutanga.
Kundichengeta kunofanira kuva “kuduku”, pasina basa rezuva kana kuti mutoro wakawedzerwa kuvana.
Iniwo ndinosarudza hupenyu hupfupi hwekushanda pane kurarama makore mashoma pasina mafaro ehupenyu.
Pasina mifaro youpenyu, makore mashoma apfuura zvimwe angava akatarira mberi kumugumo kupfuura kufarikanya zuva rimwe nerimwe.
Kuchengeta kuchave basa rezuva chairo here kana kuti mutengo uchave wakakura, ndinozvipa 2 sarudzo:
- dzokera kuEurope uye shandisa kuchengetedzwa kwevanhu. (Asi kwete kupedza makore angu ekupedzisira ndiri pamubhedha wechipatara kana kumwewo mumusha unochengeterwa vakwegura usina mhuri kana shamwari.)
- kushanda kana kungoita euthanasia.
Zvakanyanya kune dementia.
Dementia ndiyo mamiriro ezuva rekupedzisira kwandiri. Ndinoona kudzikira kwepfungwa kwakaipisisa kupfuura kurasikirwa nemabasa emuviri. Kuongororwa kwedementia pamwe kunenge kwatove kukonzeresa kuti ndifunge nezve euthanasia. Ndakatoisa inishuwarenzi mukadzi wangu nevana kakawanda, ndarasikirwa nepfungwa dzangu dai mazvipedza.
“mungazvipedza henyu”:
a) vanogona, zvichipiwa zvitendero zvechiBhudha
b) vanotenderwa zviri pamutemo kuita kudaro?
Nokuda kwechitendero cheBuddha:
Unofanira kuita musiyano pakati pomunhuwo zvake anotevera dzidziso dzaBuddha muupenyu hwezuva nezuva (putujana) nomunhu anotevera nzira yakapetwa kasere nenharidzano huru yokusatya rufu, nenharidzano yokupedzisira yokuwana Nirvana (sekha).
Euthanasia haibvumidzwe kune Sekha. Vanofanira kugamuchira kutambura uye kuishandisa kuti vave "zviri nani" kuti vawane nirvana.
Munhuwo zvake achashandisa Buddhism kuti awane mwero muhupenyu hunofadza.
Kana iwe ipapo ukasavavarira kusvika kuNirvana, haufanirwe kutambura zvisina kufanira uye euthanasia inobvumirwa muchinoitika chokutambura kusingatsungiririki.
Zvinoonekwa zviri pamutemo:
- Active euthanasia haisi
-Passive euthanasia inzvimbo yegrey uye inoshandiswa zvakanyanya muThailand. (Kumisa kurapwa, kusaita kurapwa, kupa yakawandisa morphine, ...)
Ndataura kakawanda kuti unogona kuzvitsanangura zvakanaka.
Dementia hausi mutoro kumunhu ari mubvunzo nekuti haazvizivi. Zvinoshungurudza mhuri yepedyo.
Uye euthanasia muThailand, kanganwa izvozvo, izvo zvakakurukurwa pano pane blog kakawanda. Saka ndiko kutaura nevakawanda.
Mukadzi wangu wekuThai achandichengeta, kunyangwe zvinhu zvisiri kufamba zvakanaka. Uye sezvandakaverenga pazasi: kundishandisa seATM harisi dambudziko, vanogona kuva nemari yangu, ndosaka takaroorana.
Kuve nhengo yehutano hwehutano hweThai, ndapota imwe tsananguro, zvinonzwika zvinoshamisa kwandiri.
Sezvandinoziva haugone kutora pasi peThai healthcare system.
Kunyangwe uine mabhukwana eyero eimba yepink Thai ID nezvimwe.
Jan Beute.
GeertP, hapana vanhu vaviri vanochembera kana kupera simba kana kushayiwa zvakafanana. Saka mubvunzo wako haugone kupindurwa zvakanaka nekuti hauratidze kuti unofunga/tarisiro yekuchembera sei. Iwe 'unongoita' dementia here kana kuti une zvimwewo zvirwere? Kurwadziwa kubva pakupfeka uye kubvaruka? Unoda kuvhiyiwa? Kenza? Rangarira kuti semunhu akura haugone kuwana yakachipa yeinishuwarenzi yehutano muThailand, kunyanya nehurwere huripo.
Iyo NL yehutano yehutano system, yaunopomera 'mukaka', ine mhinduro yakagadzirwa nemunhu wese uye iyo inodhura mari sezvakarongwa mumitemo. Iwe unogona kutotarisa kumusoro izvo zvauri kuzobhadhara pane saiti yeHet CAK uye chikamu pahwaro hweizvi unogona kuita sarudzo nezve nzvimbo yaunoda kukwegura.
Uye kana wazova nenzvimbo muThailand, saka imba iyoyo inogona kungovharwa mangwana… 'Zvione, farang GeertP…' Izvo hazvizoitike kwauri muNL.
Ndinoziva kuti vanhu muGermany vari kutiza hurongwa hwemunharaunda uye vachitsvaga (uye kuwana) nzvimbo muHungary uko mari yakaderera. Izvozvi zvichave zvakadaro muThailand, asi zvicharamba zvakadaro uye kune hutongi hwehurumende pamashandisirwo emasendi iwayo? Uye zvakare, usandiudze kuti izwi rekuti 'mukama' harina kumbobvira rataurwa kana vanhu vachitaura nezveThailand uye 'yakanaka' mutengo wefarang…
Pakupedzisira chimwe chinhu kubva munhoroondo. Makore apfuura, mhuri yakanga yaisa mumwe mukadzi wechikuru mune imwe imba munharaunda yeChiang Mai. Mari yake yaikwana kubhadhara imba iyoyo, asi kune zvakare chinhu chakadai seImmigration uyo akatanga achida kuona iyo mari mubhangi reThai saka akaramba vhiza kumukadzi uyu. Madam vakaendeswa kuPhilippines. Kunyanya kugumbura maitiro emukuru, asi iwe zvakare unofanirwa kurangarira icho chimiro kana tasvika kuThailand.
Ndoita sei? Ndiri munzira zvakanaka ndine makore 76. Ndiri kuchembera muEU. Dementia kana kwete.
Thailand zvirokwazvo inofanirwa kutariswa.
Mhinduro kubva kune, ndakafunga purofesa, muNL:
mune ramangwana, munhu mumwechete achava pariah yehutano hwehutano muNL.
Kwete pfungwa inonyaradza.
Hutano hwave kutadza kutengwa muNL, vanhu vanotora rubatsiro kubva kune vachengeti vasina kurongeka, kugara pamba (zvakare) kwenguva refu, dzimba dzevakuru dzakavharwa, runyorwa rwekumirira kumisha inochengeterwa vakwegura. Mapepa akawanda, macounter akawanda uye kugadzwa kwakasiyana kwedambudziko rimwe chete, wachi inotonga nerubatsiro rwehunyanzvi (nekukurumidza, nekukurumidza).
Pamusoro pazvo, pane zvimwe zvinhu zvesarudzo yenyika: mutengo wekurarama; Mamiriro ekunze: matenga akawanda egrey muNetherlands, zuva rine hushamwari uye rinochengetedza pane gasi bhiri.
Zvese izvi zvinogona kunge zviri chikonzero chekufunga nezve kupera kwehupenyu muThailand, uko, mukuona kwangu, kune zvakare ruremekedzo rwakanyanya kune vakura. Zvakawanda zvinoenderana nemamiriro ezvinhu emunhu: asina kuroora, akaroora, vana, mhuri, shamwari, mari.
Nenzira: zviri nani kuisa chishuwo maererano nekushanda kana kungoita euthanasia mukunyora, kusaina uye kunyorwa.Ndinofunga kuti pane mienzaniso yezvinyorwa zvakadaro paInternet.
Ipa yepakutanga kuna chiremba. Chiremba zvechokwadi akaratidza kuda kwake kubatsira murwere pamagumo ehupenyu, nokuti haasi chiremba wese anoda.
Uye kana ukashanyira chiremba anoda gare gare, ipapo ratidza nesimba kuti uchiri kuomerera kune yakambotsanangurwa pekutangira kana kuti shanduko dzaitika. Kuitira kuti chiremba vazivewo mamiriro akaita zvinhu.
Iyo link kubva kuNRC inotaurwa kune inopokana nekuchengetedza kwakanaka muNetherlands kune avo vanoida. Babamukuru vari munyaya iyi vakachengetwa zvakanaka pamba nemunhu aigara achichengeta uye gare gare mumba vakafarawo. Dambudziko rinotsanangurwa muNRC harisi rekutarisira pacharo, asi nezvezvipingamupinyi zvakawanda zvakasangana mukubhadhara vashandi nevanochengeta mari, mvumo yekukumbira rubatsiro uye zvigayo zvese zvepamutemo uye masosi kwainofanira kubhadharwa. Yakaomeswa nekuti kubiridzira kunofanirawo kudziviswa, izvo zvinosuruvarisa zvakaitika uye izvo zvinoguma nekunyora kwakawanda, kukumbira mvumo, kuve nekubata zviremera zvakakodzera nezvimwe.
Chaizvo Ger-Korat uye inotowedzera kuipa.
Kune dambudziko guru muNetherlands, rinova iro rakasara revadzidzi veHBO vakapedza imwe dzidzo inonakidza uye vanozofanira kuve nebasa rinoenderana, vangave vachiwedzera chimwe chinhu kana kwete.
Kare, kana uine HBS waigona kuita chimwe chinhu, mubasa rangu ndakasangana neveHBO vaifunga kuti Nelson Mandela ndiye akarova Liverpool.
Sezvineiwo, boka iri remabasa emabhuru rakatokura zvekuti kuripedza zvakaoma, vari kwese kwese.
Wadiwa Berry
Chinhu chokunyatsofunga nezvacho. Zvechokwadi munhu wose ane zvaanosarudza uye zvaanofunga.
Ini pachangu ndave ndichishanda mukuchengeta kwemakore makumi mana uye ndinogona kukuudza kuti zvinosuruvarisa mazuva ano. Saka avo vane fungidziro yekuti vanogashira kutarisirwa kwakagadzirirwa vakarasika zvakanyanya.
Zvese zviri kumasangano anowana mari yakawanda nekutora hanya chavasingakwanise kuzvipa ivo pachavo. Pane mukana wakanaka wekuti iwe uchaiswa munzvimbo yausiri yako zvachose. Vanofanira kukubvisa pane imwe nzvimbo pasinei nechiratidzo. Uye hapana anoti chinhu pamusoro peizvi.
Kuchengeta kunowedzera kudhura nezuro paTV nekuti vanochengeta vanoda kukoshesa. Uye zvakakodzera, nekuti vatungamiri nemaneja vanotora mari yakawanda. Mainishuwarenzi ehutano ari kutungamira, iwe unogona kubhadhara mutengo, iyo pfungwa yekuti zvese zvakarongeka zvakanaka pano?
Funga nezvazvo iwe pachako.
Specific
Kana iwe uchiziva kuti unogona kuronga kutarisirwa kwakanaka nezvinhu zvako ipapo, zvakanaka. Parizvino vari kushandawo munzvimbo iyo vagari nemhuri vanofanira kuzvitsvagira vega pekugara, nekuti pachange paine zvirongwa zvekuputsa ivo vaine hurongwa hwakahwanda nezvimwe zvirongwa. Saka hazvisi muThailand chete asiwo muNetherlands mazuva ano
Kana ndisina chokwadi, ndaiti dzoka uone zvinoitika.'
Kubudirira
Tarisa Berry,
Ndinoda chirevo ichi.
"Ndinodawo hupenyu hupfupi hwekushanda pane kurarama makore mashoma pasina mafaro ehupenyu".
Ehe, kana kusisina mhando yehupenyu zvakare, hazvina musoro.
Ndiwo (zvakare) maonero angu..
Rukwaziso rwose
Pieter
Mudzimai wangu ari kutorwara nedementia, muwadhi yakavharwa yenzvimbo inochengeta vanhu muNL, nemari yeLong-Term Health Insurance Act. Ini handina chekupindura. Saka .."mukaka" handizvide.
Tichifunga nezvehukama hushoma muThailand, bhizinesi rakaonekwa ipapo kubva 1995, nemashoko kubva kwavari: "uya kuTH kana mudzimai wako asisipo, mwedzi mina pano yakachipa kupfuura mwedzi mina muNL neiripo simba bhiri" vachiri nemibvunzo mikuru.
Ndinoziva kuti muNL kutarisira kwakarongeka, uye muTH zvinoenderana nemutsa wehukama hwako, vaunozivana uye shamwari, zvavanotaura ikozvino uye kuita gare gare. Tisingatauri nezvemaitiro evashandi vehurumende.
Ndinodedera padanho.
Chinyorwa chiri muNRC naJeroen Wester chiri pamusoro peiyo bureaucratic red tape yakarongwa nehurumende kuti ichengetedze euros yega yega. Sezvatsanangurwa munyaya yacho, kwete chete nemhaka yokusavimba kwehurumende nevagari vayo. Asi pakupedzisira, mutambi mukuru anofara nenzvimbo yake mumusha unochengeterwa vakwegura. Saka izvi zvinhu zviviri zvakasiyana: kurongeka kwekutarisira, uye ruzivo rwekutarisira. MuThailand, hapana kana sangano rehutano hwehutano. Asi kana une mudzimai wechidiki ane rudo nevatezvara, une rombo rakanaka. Ita shuwa kuti izvo zvinodikanwa zveImigration zvinosanganawo, sekuyeuka kunoita @Erik.
Uri wega here kana kuti vese vakaroorana vari kunetsekana, zvinobva zvaita nyaya yakasiyana. Kudzokera kuNetherlands hakusi nyore, nekuti haugone kungotora mumwe wako newe. Uye iwe unoda kugara kupi uye kuronga kutarisira kwako? MuThailand zviri nyore kuhaya munhu.
Euthanasia pakupera kwehupenyu hwako? @Berry anotaura nezvazvo zviri nyore. Euthanasia haibvumidzwe muThailand uye anoisa mutoro wayo nemhuri yake yepedyo. "Unogona kuzvipedza", zvinonzwika zvakaoma asi hazvina kuumbwa zvakanaka. Kuoma kwevanhu kwakaoma uye kwakaomeswa zviri pamutemo ndiko kuti, nhaurirano muNetherlands imwe nguva yapfuura yakatenderedza Cooperative Last Will uye Means X inoratidza. Uye paunorasikirwa nemasimba ako epfungwa, hazvipiwi kune chero nhengo yemhuri kusarudza nguva iyo "euthanasia" iyo inofanira kuitika. Nokuti zvinofanira kutaridzika sei ipapo? A plastic bag?
Mukuona kwangu, zviri nyore kuronga kutarisira muThailand, asi iwe unofanirwa kukurukura uye kugadzirisa izvo nenguva. Ndine zvibvumirano zvakajeka nemudzimai wangu pamusoro peizvi, kunyange kana akazorwara kana kuti ndonda uye ndinoramba ndiri pamakumbo angu zviri nani kana ndakwegura uye ndakaoma. Uyezve kuti zvese zvinotarisirwa, zvese zvemari uye zvepamutemo (fixed account, saving account, non-o pamudyandigere, kuda, chanoot-usefruct) zvinosangana. Uye zvakakosha zvikuru: vatezvara vanoziva nezvazvo uye rubatsiro rwakakurukurwa kumashure nekudzoka.
Iwe haugone kungotaura kana uri nani muThailand. zvese zvinoenderana nemamiriro emunhu. Dzimwe nguva zviri nani kudzokera shure. Asi gara muThailand kana kudzokera kuNetherlands: usaite kuti izvozvo zvichitsamira pachinyorwa chepepanhau.
Ingoita shuwa kuti unogona kuchembera mu nl. Ndakatoona zvakakwana kuti hurumende nevatongi vanoona sei farang. Kana pakaitika tsaona yemotokari (yakarongwa), zvichave zvinosungirwa kubhadhara e-e yakakura kune anonzi (danho) akabatwa (ane makore gumi nemashanu asina rezinesi rekutyaira kana ngowani).
Zvakakosha kuchengetwa muThaland (kunyanya nedementia) kuti une munhu akavimbika anoronga nyaya dzemari uye nehanya nemazvo. American, kumwe kuIsaan, akadedera semusuwo, akangowana chikafu chakakwana kuti arambe ari mupenyu kuitira kuti mhuri yeThai irambe ichimushandisa seATM.
Shamwari padzakaziva, dzakamudzosa kuUSA.
Ndizvozvo Keith. Uye zvakaitika kuUSA ... vakamuisa mumusha unochengeterwa vakwegura uye hapana akamutarisa zvakare.
Uye mari yake yese, akarasikirwa nayo zvakadaro nekuda kwekubhadhara kwese mari.
At least muno muThailand ainge achiri nemhuri yake, kuUSA akashaya ari ega.
Chokwadi Louise,
Chii chiri nani kusurukirwa muU.SA kana muThailand nehama dzinopa chikafu chakangokwana wochisiya kune chako? Hausi kusurukirwa here?
Kana mari yapera chii zvino?
Sarudzo yakasiyana kune imwe neimwe kesi, asi mari yakangoenda zvakanaka, chero nzira.,