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Mubvunzo wevaverengi: Thais anozivei nezveKisimusi?
Vadiwa vaverengi,
Nezuro musikana wangu wekuThai anga akabatikana pamutsetse achipindura zvishuwo zveKisimusi. Pandakamubvunza kana aiziva kuti Kirisimasi chii chaizvo, akati “Kisimusi igore idzva kubva kunzvimbo dziri kure.”
Ko vakadzi venyu, vasikana? Vanoziva here nezvechidyiro chemombe nembongoro?
Kwaziwai,
Firipi
Ps: ikozvino ngatiteerere mamwe mabhero muBig C
- Yakatumirwazve -
Ini ndinofunga kuti ruzivo rweizvi rwakakura seruzivo rwevakawanda expats kana Farangs nezve Ramayana nyaya naMambo Hanoman, monkey mambo. Nyaya inozivikanwa muIndia pamwe nekuMalaysia, Indonesia neThailand - imwe neimwe nenzira yayo.
Ini ndinoshamisika zvakanyanya kana Thais anoziva zvakanyanya nezveBuddhism? Sekuona kwangu, vazhinji veThais vanonyanya kuve maanimists ane nhete yeBuddhism.
Hongu, Petro. Wakazviona zvakanaka. VaThai vanoziva zvishoma nezveBuddhism. Vanoshaya chekutaura pandinovatsanangurira kuti Buddha ndiani uye kuti Songkran naLoy Ktrathong vakavapo sei.
Chander
Sezvinongoita Thai Buddhism chinhanho pamusoro peiyo yekutanga animism yeThai, chiKristu chinhanho pamusoro petsika dzechipegani dzepakutanga. Zuva rekuzvarwa kwaJesu nderekufungidzira uye rinowira panguva tsvene yepakutanga yechihedheni.
Zvakanaka. Mudzimai wangu ane vashandi vebhizimisi vekuEurope uye anga atove achishanyira bhizinesi kuItaly, Turkey neGermany nguva shomanana, saka anotarisa kupfuura iye (yakanaka) mhino.
Hatifanire kukanganwa kuti vamwe vana veThai vanobva kuboka repamusoro rehuwandu vanowanzoenda kuzvikoro zvechiKristu, zveKatorike nekuti vane mukurumbira uri nani. Zvose izvi zvinobata vana vanosvika 400.000. Ndine vadzidzi vakati wandei vaipinda izvi zvikoro zvepamusoro zveKatorike. Izvi hazvishande kuBangkok chete, nenzira.
Gore rega rega mune yangu condo kune (yakagadzirwa) muti weKisimusi une mabhora uye zvechokwadi kune chiitiko chaicho chekuzvarwa pasi.
http://www.asianews.it/news-en/Catholic-schools-in-Thailand,-places-of-excellence-and-inter-faith-dialogue-13351.html
http://internationalschoolsbangkokthailand.org/christian-schools.html
Mudzimai wangu anoziva zvakawanda nezveKisimusi sezvandinoita nezveanonzi mazuva echibhudha, loykratong, sonkran.
Musiyano ndewekuti pamazuva eBuddha muThailand ini ndakaoma kana zvasvika kune doro uye Kisimusi mukana wakanaka wekuti iye neshamwari vadye zvakanaka uye vanwe zvinwiwa.
Ndakangobvunza mudzimai wangu kuti Kisimusi chii, mhinduro:
"Zvokudya zvinonaka uye zvinwiwa, muti weKisimusi, zvipo, makadhi eKisimusi, mhuka dzemhuka. ”
Imwe yeshamwari dzake muKaturike. Zvinozivikanwa kuti vanoenda kuchechi, asi nei uye vanoitei ikoko? Mukadzi wangu aisazoziva.
Asi Krisimasi inomborevei? KuvaKristu, kuzvarwa kwaJesu, kuenda kuBheterehema nenyeredzi mudenga, etc. Ndiyo tsananguro yavo. Ndiyo inonzi Kisimusi here? Kwete, shure kwezvose, Kisimusi musanganiswa wezviitiko zvenhoroondo uye inogona kuchinja. ChiKristu chisati chavepo, kupembererwa kwemasikati kwakange kuri panguva ino (Zvita 21), mutambo wechiedza nekurebesa mazuva. Kuti vabatanidze pfungwa dzavo, maKristu aifanira kubatanidza zvinhu zvaivapo, kana kuti zvimwe zvakangoerekana zvaitika sorudzi rwemhindumupindu. Nhasi, vakawanda vasina kurerwa sevaKristu vanoziva zvishomanana kana kuti havatombozivi nezvezviri muBhaibheri. Kune vanhu vazhinji ava, Kisimusi ingori Kisimusi, zvipo, Santa Claus, mazuva ekuzorora. Kuti Kisimusi chii chaizvo zvichasiyana pamunhu nemunhu. Kukosha kwaro munhoroondo kuchazivikanwa kunyange kuvanhu vashoma.
Uye Thai uye Buddhism? Zal Khun Peter anonyora, izvo zvakanyanya animism uye mashura. Pandinobvunza muThai pazuva rakakosha kuti chii chaizvo, mhinduro inowanzova "enda kutemberi", "pati, sanook". Kana ukabvunza kuti chii kana kuti nei vachipemberera chimwe chinhu, kazhinji hazvina kujeka. Uye ndiani aiva Buddha? Murume akanaka akachenjera kana mumongi anobva kuIndia (kana Thailand). Chero bedzi iwe uchienda kutemberi nemazvo - kana ichikukodzera - kuita hunhu, zvikasadaro uchasangana nedambudziko ...
Ma“farang” mangani anoziva kuti akanga ari Mutongi Augustus Constantine Mukuru uyo, muna 321, akachengeta zororo reRoma rinonzi Dies Natalis Solis Invicti (Zuva Rokuberekwa reZuva Risingakundiki) pana December 25? yakagadziriswa, nguva pfupi mushure mepakati-yechando solstice, iyo yave ichipembererwa kwemireniyamu? Uye kuti Chechi yeRoma yeChristian yakashandisa zuva iri semusimboti wayo, nepo Byzantine yakasarudza 6 John kwayo, nekutanga kutaurwa muna 361? Zvakanaka, maGiriki echinyakare aitoziva zuva rino se“kuratidzwa kwehuMwari”, saka… Epiphany = kuratidzwa kwaJesu kunyika yekunze.
VaCelt neGermany vanhu vakashandisa green pine / fir sechiratidzo chekukunda munguva yechando. Charlemagne akarambidza chero rudzi rwemhemberero yekare yeGermany uye akakwanisa kusimbisa izvi mushure mekukunda uye kubhabhatidza Widukind, Duke weSaxons. Muzana remakore rechi16 ndipo pakazobvumira vaKristu kuti muti uyu wakasvibira uiswezve mune dzimwe nzvimbo dzemisika. Makwikwi aya akatanga muzana ramakore rechi 17: kuridza mabhora makuru egirazi anobvira, akaturikwa mumuti wegirinhi seshongedzo.
Santa Claus huwori hweUS hweDutch Sinterklaas, mutambo - zvisinei nekupikiswa kwevaCalvinist - unopembererwa muNew Amsterdam, ikozvino New York.
Pfungwa yeKuzvarwa kwaJesu inobva kuna St Francis weAssisi, aive nedanga rakavakwa pakati pemasango eGreccio muna 1223.
Munguva yekutonga kwaMambokadzi Elizabeth I (1533-1603), zvakava zvakajairika kuti makirasi epamusoro akande madhiri eKisimusi makuru, ane ruzivo. Avo vaikwanisa kuita mabiko makuru eKisimusi panguva iyi uko kwakakokwa marudzi ese emhuri, shamwari uye humwe hukama.
Mafaranga mangani anoziva zvese izvi?
Chii chaunoziva nezve.. Loi Kratong etc?
Basa rakanaka Harry!
Ndakadzidza chimwe chinhu zvakare. 😀
Kunyange ukabvunza vaFarang vaduku, vanhu vazhinji havagoni kutaura nhau yeKrisimisi nerevo yayo chaizvoizvo.
Nhau chaiyoiyo yeKrisimisi yakaparadzaniswa chose chose, uye nokuda kwavazhinji ine chokuita bedzi nezvipo, mapati, uye kudya kwakanyanyisa.
Pamberi peKisimusi unoona marudzi ese ezvinonzi "Ita Goodys" vanhu vanonyanya kutarisira, semuenzaniso, vapoteri uye nzara yenyika, iyo inotyisa kwazvo, uye mushure meKisimusi iyi inokurumidza kukanganwika, uye kazhinji inongova nezve munhu pachake.
Kunyange vana pakati pavo vanoyerwa nezvavakagamuchira kana kuti zvavakaita, uye kazhinji havanei nechokuita nechikonzero nei tichipemberera Krisimasi.
Munyika dzakawanda, kutanga kwaSeptember, kutengeserana kunotanga kugadzirira izvo zvinofanirwa kunge zviri mutambo wechiKristu, uko kunenge kuri kuita mari chete.
Ndosaka zvisingashamise kuti muThai anongobatanidza Kisimusi nezvipo nemapati, nekuti hapana chimwe chaakanzwa kubva kumaFarang mazhinji.
Mudzimai wangu dzimwe nguva anodanidzira, achidzokorora zvaanoona paTV, “Haiwa, Mwari wangu! “. Pandinomubvunza mushure mekunge Jesu aive ani, haazive.
Izvo zvisingamutadzise kuti atore mufananidzo wake nemuti wese wakashongedzwa weKisimusi mazuva ano, zviri nani akashongedzwa nenyemwerero yakakura uye ngowani tsvuku yaSanta Claus.
Iwe haugone kupa mhosva vaThais nekuda kweruzivo rwavo rushoma rwezvinofanira kureva Kisimusi, iko kuzvarwa kwaJesu mumwe chete, apo kunyange vazhinji farang vanongoona Kisimusi semazuva anoteedzana ekuzorora, ayo anofanirwa kuzadzwa nekugamuchira zvipo , kudya (vanoti, kudya) pese pese, tisingataure chitoro chedoro. Varume vakawanda vane tsika dzakanaka vanozvibvumira kuguta sechipanje nokuti pfungwa dzake dzafinhwa.
Varume vatatu vakachenjera vakabva Kumabvazuva, uye zvichida kwete kubva kuSiam, asi izvozvo hazvitauri zvakawanda. Kudai mumwe wangu wokuThailand akandibvunza chandinoziva pamusoro poupenyu hwaBuddha, ndaizosara ndisina zhinji dzemhinduro.
Vazhinji "vatendi" muNetherlands havaziviwo zvinonyatsorehwa nemazororo echiKristu. Kisimusi ichiri kushanda kuvanhu vazhinji, asi Isita, Pentekosti, Chishanu Chakanaka, nezvimwewo zvine chekuita naJesu uye havafambire mberi kupfuura izvozvo. Uye mumwe munhu ane mamiriro echiKristu zvakare haazive mamiriro e "kutenda" mitambo yevaHindu, maMuslim, maBhudha, nezvimwe.
Ini ndiri munhu asingatendi kuti kuna Mwari (ndakaenda kuzvikoro zvechiKristu saka ndaiva nezvidzidzo zveBhaibheri zvinodiwa) uye chandisinganzwisisi ndechokuti kune maitiro umo chiBuddha chinoonekwa sekutenda kune mashura akawanda. Tinofanira kugara panyika imwe chete nevanhu vakawanda vakasiyana-siyana uye zvitendero zvakawanda zvakasiyana-siyana uye tsika. Remekedza mumwe nemumwe pasina kutonga uye ipapo ndipo patingazogara tese zvechokwadi.
Kisimusi yakanaka uye 2015 ine hutano nerunyararo
handisi kuona kutonga kwakawanda pano. Vashoma vechiThai vakanyatsonzwisisa dzidziso dzaBuddha, chinhu chaicho. kuziva nyaya iri seri kwechiitiko kana kuziva kuti tsika dzakasiyana-siyana hadzisi dzechiBhudha asi dzine chekuita nehupenyu uye kutenda mashura kucherechedza pasina maonero pamusoro pazvo. Sezvaunotaura iwe pachako, vatendi vazhinji havazive kuti chimwe chinhu chinorevei chaizvo. Ini pachangu, ndinofunga kuti zvese zvakanaka chero maonero ehupenyu kana mubatanidzwa wezvitendero, zvitendero, mashura, tsika, maonero ehupenyu (chiBuddha hachionekwe sekutenda), nezvimwewo munhu ane. Zvakanaka chose kana vanhu vachiitirana zvavanoda kuitirwa.
Kungofanana neKisimusi mutambo wechiKristu maererano nevamwe, asi vamwe havana basa nazvo, vane maonero akasiyana (solstice, kungonakidzwa pamwe chete, nezvimwewo). Sekuona kwangu, kududzira kwechiKristu ndeimwe yemikana. Izvo hazvina kunaka, zvakaipa, zvakanaka kana zvakaipa, asi dudziro. Munhu wese angofanire kungopa dudziro yake kuzororo nekunakidzwa nazvo.
Saka hazvibviri kutaura kuti Kisimusi chii - yakasiyana nemunhu wese - kana kuti inofanira kunge iri tsananguro yenhoroondo yekuti ruzivo rwedu pamusoro payo rwakasvika papi.
Ndikatarisa mubvunzo nemhinduro dzawo, handioni chikonzero chekutonga, kungotaura.
Kunyangwe mumwe munhu achiona Kisimusi semukana wekubata zvipo uye kudya zvakawanda, kana kupedza zuva rose akapfugama pamberi pechiitiko chekuzvarwa, kana kupemberera solstice yechando kana mutambo weMitrades, vane chokwadi chekuti kuzvarwa kwaJesu ndiko. kupembererwa (nokuti muEvhangeri kana kumwe kumwe hakuna nguva yakatarwa yegore, kunyange gore harina kururama, nokuti Herodhi akanga afa muna 4 BC) kana kuti chiitiko ichi chose chakanga chiri chibvumirano chakamanikidzirwa chakaiswa naConstantine Mukuru: chakakunda. hazvina basa neni.
Nei vanhu zviuru zvemakiromita kure nenhoroondo yese iyi (yeThai) vasingafanire kuita hanya nazvo, kana kuti vauya kuzozviona semutambo wekunwa wekutengesa: zvinovafadza.
Ini ndine pfungwa imwe chete pamusoro pazvo: dzidza tsika, manzwiro uye hunhu & kukosha kwenzvimbo yaunogara uye uishandise kufadza vamwe uye nekudaro: chero anoita zvakanaka, anosangana nezvakanaka.
Zvisinei ... Ndagara ndichiwana ruzivo rushoma rwevamwe vanhu uye matunhu zvinonakidza uye zvinonakidza.
Ndangosangana neizvi, Coconut ichibvunza vanongopfuura nepaCentral World kuti Kisimusi inorevei kwavari:
http://bangkok.coconuts.co//2014/12/24/thais-explain-what-christmas-means-them
-== "Kisimusi inorevei kwauri?" ==–
- "Kupemberera kwevatorwa, asi isu tese tiri chikamu chenyika, uye Thais anofanira kufara nekupembera navo." — VaK. Wanchana Sawasdee, 42.
– “Izuva remufaro. Izuva rekutandara neshamwari nemhuri dzako.” — Kalayakorn Tasurin, makumi maviri.
– “Kisimusi inonakidza. Ndinoda ndege yekutambisa sechipo." — Poon, 5.
- "Ndinofunga nezvezvipo pandinofunga nezveKisimusi. Zvinoreva zvinhu zvinoshamisa uye mamiriro okunze anotonhorera!” — Kitti Chareonroong-uthai, 18.
- "Mutambo wekupa." — Malinee Suwidechkasol, 54
– “Mutambo wemutorwa. Vanopana zvipo.” —Amphon Nernudom, 33
- "Hazvina zvazvinoreva kwandiri, asi ndinogona kushandisa kutonhora kwekunze!" - Ratchanikorn Duangtadam, 22 "Handifunge kuti zvakakosha kuThais." - Natthakarn Disadee, makumi maviri
- "Kuchinja kwakanaka, pano uye zvakare mukana wekuti vanhu vapemberere chimwe chinhu chitsva." — Pairat Yuma, makumi mashanu
“Honestly? Ndinofunga kuti hazvina basa muThailand nekuti hatisi nyika yechiKristu. " Chayada, 23 uye
“Kunyangwe ndichifunga kuti mutambo uyu hauna basa, zvinogara zvakanaka kuona vanhu vachiufarira. —Parawee, 22.
- "Kisimusi inoita kuti tinzwe kunakidzwa nemamiriro ekunze anotonhora, uye kune zvakawanda zviitiko zvekunakidzwa nazvo." - Duangcheewan Pong-iua, 19
Imhinduro dzakakura sei!
Ndakaaverenga ose uye ndadzidza chimwe chinhu kubva kwavari. Ndinokutendai mose nekupindura kuchirevo ichi. Kunyanya kana iwe uchigara muPattaya uye zvekushongedza zvakanyanya kupfuura muEurope. Pamusoro!
Ndave nemwedzi ye9 ndichigara muThailand uye ndakadzidza zvakawanda kuburikidza nemhinduro dzakawanda pano. Kisimusi yakanaka.
Guido.
Pandinobvunza shamwari dzangu dzeThai kuti Kisimusi chii, mhinduro dzinouya dzine chekuita nemwenje yakawanda yakanaka nezvipo. Vashomanene zvikuru vanoziva kuti vaKristu vanochengeta kuberekwa kwaJesu Kristu.
Ndinogara ndichiedza kuitsanangura nokuenzanisa Krisimasi neVesak (Wesak), zuva iro vaBuddha veTheravada vanopemberera kuberekwa, kuvhenekerwa uye kufa kwaBuddha. Kisimusi zvirokwazvo haisi "farang new year", ndinowedzera.