Vadiwa vaverengi,
Mubvunzo wangu unobata mwana wangu, ndinovimba pane angandipanga mazano. Mwanakomana wangu ane 17 (Gunyana 18), baba vake vane nyika yeThai uye (zvakare) vanogara muThailand (akarega nyika yake yechiDutch ichipera, saka aive nenyika mbiri). Ndiri Dutch uye ndinogara muNetherlands nemwanakomana wangu.
Mwanakomana wangu ane chizvarwa cheDutch uye anopfuura gore rapfuura akagamuchira chitupa chake chekuzvarwa cheThai chaanoda kunyorera kadhi rake reThai ID nepasipoti. Kunyorera chitupa chake chekuzvarwa cheThai (uye nekudaro nyika yeThai, handiti?) akaenda pasina dambudziko mushure mekutevera rudzi rwe 'relay maitiro' kuburikidza nemahofisi ese muBangkok, Phuket uye Surathani...
Mibvunzo:
- Mwanakomana wangu anogona here kunyorera chitupa chake uye pasipoti kukanzuru yeThai (Surathani) neichi chitupa chekuzvarwa cheThai?
- Izvi zvinofanira kuitika asati ava nemakore 18 here? Zvinoenderana nemutemo weThai, munhu mukuru pazera re18?
- Ndeipi mikana yekuti achanyorwa? Chimwe chinhu iye pachake ane chokwadi nacho, zvisinei nekuti haatauri chiThai uye angangove asingatenderwe (ane Asperger's syndrome).
Baba vake vanoda kumupa imba uye kumupa kodzero yenhaka pamusoro pedzimwe dzimba neminda yeminda. Nokuda kweizvi zvakakosha kuti ave neThailand nyika.
Mwanakomana wangu haasati aziva kana achinyatsoda kugara muThailand, asi nekuti ini handichakwanisa kumuchengeta mugore rake rechi18, zvinobatsira kuti asununguke kuenda kuna baba vake neimwe mhuri yake yeThai pasina hurongwa hwevhiza, nezvimwewo paanenge achida.
Ndiani angandipa kujekeswa zvakanyanya nezvemamiriro edu ezvinhu?
Kwaziwai.
Sandra
Sandra ndinofunga kuti zvinogoneka, pasi pemutemo weDutch, kuve ne2 nyika kana iwe uine kodzero kwavari pakuzvarwa. Kana mwanakomana wako akanyorera nyika yeThai mushure mekunge asvika pazera, zvirokwazvo acharasikirwa nehukama hwake hweDutch. Sezvo izvi zvine mhedzisiro yakakosha, ndinoda kuti ushanyire dhipatimendi rinoona nezvevanhu vekanzuru uye/kana kuhaya gweta rinonyatsoziva nezvenyaya iyi. Zvakare muThailand.
Mumwe munhu ane nyika yekunze uye anoda kuva mugari wechiDutch acharasikirwa nenyika yake yekunze, kunze kwekunge mutemo munyika yake yekuzvarwa uchimutadzisa kurasikirwa nenyika iyoyo - funga semuenzaniso. Morocco - uye kana kurasikirwa kwerudzi rwake rwepakutanga zvinorevawo kurasikirwa kwekodzero yenhaka. Mune zviitiko izvi, mutorwa anogona kuchengetedza chizvarwa chake chepakutanga kana akava Dutch.
Thailand inosanganisirwawo, kungofanana neMorocco. MuThai haamborasikirwi nenyika yake. Mukadzi wangu ane Dutch passport uye anogarawo kuNetherlands and she is registered at an address in Thailand.Chero cheThai passport/ID card rake parinopera ari kuThailand, anorinorenew, hapana dambudziko.
A Thai anogona zvechokwadi kurasikirwa nenyika yake, asi anogona zvakare kuhuwana zvakare. Ona mutemo wenyika wandatopa chirevo kune imwe nzvimbo pazasi. Ikoko iwe unowana nhevedzano yezvinyorwa zvine chekuita nekurasikirwa, kutora uye kudzoreredza kwerudzi rweThai.
Wadiwa Sandra,
Pakarepo mwanakomana wako paanotora nyika yeThai, acharasikirwa nenyika yake yechiDutch. Ndinofunga anofanira kutanga aona kuti upenyu hwakaita sei nababa vake vechiThai. Anokwanisa kusarudza gare gare.
Mukuwedzera, semunhu mukuru (anopfuura makore gumi nemasere), ane kodzero yekubatsira rubatsiro rwemagariro evanhu.
Saka pane zvimwe zvinogoneka.
Kwaziwai.
Anthony
Kwete kana akakurumidza, mudiki haarasikirwe nehukama hwake hweDutch paanotora imwe nyika.
Mukuwedzera, kune zvimwe zvakasiyana, zvinosanganisira:
“Unorasikirwa nedzimwe kodzero kana ukaramba dzinza rako. Semuenzaniso, unorasikirwa nemari yakawanda nekuti mutemo wenhaka hauchashandi kwauri.”
Ona:
- https://ind.nl/paginas/afstand-nationaliteit.aspx
Wadiwa Sandra,
Aiwa, haazorasikirwi nerudzi rwake rwechiDutch.
Chero bedzi paanovandudza pasipoti yake, anongova Dutchman.
Pachokwadi,
Erwin
Mushandi uya wekuembassy haazive mutemo. Nyika zhinji inzvimbo yegrey yeThailand. Thailand hairambidze nyika mbiri asi haizive nyika mbiri, inotenderwa asi saka yakaoma:
Nationality Act, (No.4), BE 2551 (=gore 2008)
Chitsauko 2. Kurasikirwa kweThai Nationality.
(...)
13 chikamu.
"Murume kana mukadzi wekuThai anoroora mutorwa uye anogona kuwana nyika yemukadzi kana yemurume maererano nemutemo werudzi rwemukadzi wake.
kana kuti murume wake anogona, Kana achida kuramba chizvarwa cheThai, kutaura chinangwa chake pamberi pemukuru ane hunyanzvi maererano nefomu uye nenzira yakatemwa muMitemo yeGurukota.
Kunobva: http://www.refworld.org/pdfid/506c08862.pdf
+ iyo chiuru uye imwe misoro pamusoro penyika mbiri pane ino blog. 😉
Kana ndikanzwisisa zvakanaka, iwe zvino unogara muNetherlands? Kana zvirizvo, unofanirwa kumunyorera pasipoti yeThai kumumiriri weThai muHague. Mwanasikana wangu akagamuchirawo chizvarwa cheThai paakasvitsa makore 16 (akaberekerwa kuNetherlands) uye iye zvino ava nemarudzi maviri.
kwaziso nerombo rakanaka Raymond
Ziva zvakare kudanwa kwebasa rechiuto muThailand kana agamuchira chizvarwa chake cheThai.
Hazvizivikanwe kana mwanakomana wako akazvarwa muThailand. Kana akaberekerwa muThailand, anopinda munjodzi yekushevedzwa kubasa rake rechiuto reThai.
Baba vake veThai vanoda kuendesa real estate kwaari kana kungoigashira parufu.
Kana sarudzo iri NL uye kwete Thai nyika seimwe sarudzo yekuwedzera, achave negore rimwe chete rekutengesa pfuma mushure mekufa kwababa vake. Handizivi kuti chii chinoitika kana zvikasaitika mukati megore. Ichazoendeswa kuhurumende yeThai here? Pamwe mumwe munhu pano pane ino blog anoziva zvinoitika ipapo.
Wadiwa Sandra,
Mubvunzo wekutanga ndewekuti, kwete
Mubvunzo wechi2 ndewekuti, vasati vasvika zera re18, amai vavo vepamutemo kana baba vanofanirwa kutora chikamu muchikumbiro.
Mubvunzo 3 ndewekuti, anogona kudanwa, asi izvi zvinoenderana nekuti akanyoreswa nezita rei
iri muThailand. Kana zita reThai remukomana akanyoreswa richibva kuna amai veThai kana baba, saka mukana wakakwira.
Kana zita rebaba vekune dzimwe nyika kana amai rakanyoreswa muchiDutch, anogona kuzvinyoresa
sarudza.
Nguva dzose bhora dema (kungotamba).
Pachokwadi,
Erwin
Wadiwa Erwin, une kwaunobva poindi 3? Zvinoita sekuti vari kudaidza varume vechidiki vechiThai vakanyoreswa sevagari paampur (hofisi yedunhu, horo yedhorobha). Kuwedzera kusefa varume veThai kuti zita iri 'Thai' kana 'kwete Thai' zvingave ... zvinoshamisa.
Muchidimbu: kana iwe uri Thai asi usina kunyoreswa muThailand nekero yemba, hapana dhizaini yeampur uye saka hapana basa rechiuto. Asi kusvika parizvino handisati ndamboona sosi yepamutemo kana shandurudzo isiri yepamutemo yenzvimbo yepamutemo pane izvi. Uye chero munhu anondiziva: ndinoda kuona masosi kuitira kuti chokwadi chechirevo chiongororwe.
Zvinoenderana nemutemo weThai, iwe hausi munhu mukuru kusvika wasvika makumi maviri.Izvozvo zvisati zvaitika, baba naamai, kana muchengeti mushure mekurambana, sezvandiri ini, anofanira kusaina.