Vadiwa vaverengi,

Chii chiri kuita Thailand? 55 kufa kubva pamamiriyoni makumi manomwe evanhu uye kuvhara zvinenge zvese. Hazvingave nani here kugara wakavharwa nekuti ndinofunga vanhu makumi mashanu nevashanu vanofa nehutachiona hwese.

Kwazisai,

Henk

59 mhinduro ku "Muverengi mubvunzo: Sei uchivhara zvese zverufu makumi mashanu neshanu?"

  1. Johan anoti kumusoro

    Iwe unogona kubvunza mubvunzo iwoyo kune chero imwe nyika, uye zvishoma kuwana mhinduro inogutsa. Sei zvese pasi rose zvakakiyiwa pakutanga? Kune vanhu vanopfuura mamiriyoni 7.000 4 pasi rose; kune utachiona hunopfuura mamirioni mana, uye kune vafa vasingasviki mamirioni 0,3.
    Tora Italy izvozvi: hutsinye sei vezvenhau havana kupindura kuhutachiona hwese uye kufa zvakanyanya pazuva. Uye zvino tarisa Ver. Humambo: huwandu hwehutachiona nerufu hunodarika izvo zveItari, uye jongwe harichachema !!
    Nei kuraira / muenzaniso weChina / WHO wakatevedzwa neuranda pasi rese kutanga kwaKurume?

    • George Hendricks anoti kumusoro

      Dai waibvumirwa kushanda muICU dhipatimendi rechipatara, ndinofunga waizokurumidza kufunga zvakasiyana. Iyo shati uye siketi musimboti unoshandawo kune inonzi sarudzo pakati pekudzivirira Covid kuwedzera uye kuponesa hupfumi Kana kuti ndingangofamba. Kana waizova mushandi wemundege, waizozvitarisa zvakasiyana. Ndinoziva vashoma vasingadi.

      • Albert anoti kumusoro

        Nezuro ndakataura nevpk anoshanda muICU and paive ne49 IC mibhedha ine Corona.
        Parizvino mibhedha gumi nemasere ichiri kugarwa muNorthern Netherlands.
        Zvino kunouya masaisai echipiri.
        Uye kana iri | Thailand, handitende kuti Covid Center ine nhamba dzakarongeka.
        Hongu uye sezvandakatsanangura kakawanda: 55 yakafa mamiriyoni gumi asingashande uye ane nzara ??
        Brazille 10000 yakafa, zvakare kwete nhamba dzakakodzera

  2. Richard anoti kumusoro

    Zvichienderana nehuwandu hwevanhu vafa uye kuti izvi zvinorevawo chimwe chinhu pamusoro pehuwandu hwehutachiona, tsvakiridzo yakanaka yekuonana neni inoita seyakakwana kuve nechero kubuda kwehutachiona. MuNetherlands, vanenge 400 vanhu vanofa zuva rega rega kubva kumarudzi ose ezvirwere, njodzi, nezvimwewo. MuThailand izvi hazvizove zvakasiyana zvakanyanya, asi pamusoro pezvimwe zve4. Ini handizive nhamba chaidzo dzekufa muThailand. Nekufa makumi mashanu neshanu kubva kuCovid 55, handifunge kuti kune huwandu hwekufa kwakanyanya. Pamwe hurumende iri kutya kuratidzira kana kumwe kuratidza kusafara negwara rehurumende iyi. Vanogona kudzora izvi kuburikidza nematanho akasimba, asi pamwe izvi zvakanyanya kunyomba.

  3. Rene anoti kumusoro

    Anodiwa Henk,

    Izvo chaizvo nekuda kwematanho ese (akarema) kuti nhamba yekufa yakanyoreswa ine rombo rakanaka kuti yakaderera uye vashoma vanowedzerwa. Dai Thailand isina kuita izvi, mhedzisiro ingadai isina kuverengeka mumaonero angu. Iyo yeThai yehutano yehutano system ingadai isina kumbokwanisa kubata izvo.

    • Tino Kuis anoti kumusoro

      Ndizvozvo, Rene, ndizvo zvandinofungawo. Izvo chaizvo nekuda kwematanho akasimba kuti huwandu hwerufu uye kudzvanywa kwehutano hwakaramba hwakaganhurirwa. Izvi zvinoshanda kunyika dzakawanda dzakadai seSouth Korea neTaiwan.

      China iri kupomerwa mhosva yekusatora matanho akasimba mushure mekufa kwevanhu vashoma kuitira kuti hutachiona hupararire pasi rose.

      United States yakatora matanho kunonoka, ayo akasiyana zvakanyanya mudunhu rega rega, uye pave nekufa kunoda kusvika zviuru makumi masere ikoko.

      Iwe haugone kuti: 'Hatingatore matanho akasimba kusvika zana kana 100 vafa', nekuti ipapo zvinenge zvanyanya kunonoka.

      Nekune rumwe rutivi, ndakarerutsa migumisiro yezvemari, izvo zvakakonzerawo nhamo zhinji nenzufu nokuda kwourovha nourombo.

      Iri dambudziko redhiabhori iro pasina 100% mhinduro dzakakwana. Kana ukasarudza chiyero ichi, zviri nani kune izvi uye zvakashata kune chimwe chinhu. Nyatsoiyera. Ndinofara kusave mugadziri wematongerwo enyika. Vari kutozviita zvese zvisizvo…..

      • Petervz anoti kumusoro

        Kuchengetwa kwehutano hweThai kune 1 yakakosha chinhu uye izvo zvinonzi อสม (vanozvipira vehutano). Mumusha wega wega kune ava vanozvipira vanochengeta 8 dzimba. Saka musha une dzimba 40 une vazvipiri vashanu. Ivo vari kumberi chaizvo pano uye vanovimbisa kuti vanhu vemumusha mavo vanotevedzera matanho (kuvharirwa, nguva yekudzoka kumba, kupfeka masiki kumeso, nezvimwewo). Unique munyika ino.

        • Tino Kuis anoti kumusoro

          Ndakanyora nezvazvo muna 2013 (zvinoita senge kare kare), petervz, pano:

          https://www.thailandblog.nl/gezondheid-2/volksgezondheid-thailand-succesverhaal/

          Mutengo mudiki

          Vazvipiri ava ndivo musimboti weimwe yeanobudirira veruzhinji masisitimu ehutano pasi rose. Semuenzaniso, vakakonzera kuderera kukuru kwezvirwere zvinotapukira zvakadai seHIV, marariya uye dengue.
          WHO, 2012

          Vazvipiri vehutano mumisha
          Regai nditange nekutaura pamusoro pevanozvipira mumisha, nokuti zvimwe ndivo vanobatsira zvikuru mukusimudzira utano hweveruzhinji, zvikuru vekumaruwa, uye zvinosuwisa kuti havasi kunyatsozivikanwa.

          MuchiRungu vanodaidzwa kunzi 'Village Health Volunteers' uye muchiThai, nechidimburidzo, อสม, 'oh sǒ mo'. Yakavambwa makore makumi mashanu apfuura nachiremba Amorn Nondasuta (iye zvino ane makore makumi masere nematatu), nhamba yavo parizvino i83, kana imwe padzimba makumi maviri. Anowanikwa mumusha wega wega (zvinosuruvarisa kuti handina kukwanisa kuziva kuti anoshandawo here mumaguta, pamwe pane muverengi anoziva kana kuti anogona kubvunza? Handifungi kudaro).

          Vazvipiri ava vakave nechokwadi chekuti hutano hwepamusoro hwakagoverwa zvakanyanya. Munyika umo simba rinoburitsa hupfumi kubva kuBangkok, uyu mumwe wemienzaniso mishoma yechirongwa chinozvimiririra, chakavakirwa munharaunda uye chinotungamirwa nenharaunda chirongwa chinoshanda. Mabasa akasiyana-siyana evazvipiri ava anoratidza zvakajeka kuti vazhinji vane hanya uye vakazvipira kune zvakazara uye zvakabatana kufarira kweThailand.

        • geert barber anoti kumusoro

          Ndaisaziva kuti izvi zvaivepo apa. Ndinoziva hurongwa hwakadai kubva kuTanzania. Saka hazvisi izvo zvakasiyana asi zvinobatsira

      • Chris anoti kumusoro

        Isu takasarudza vezvematongerwo enyika nemazvo kuti vagadzirise matambudziko adhiabhori. Izvo zvave kuitika munyika zhinji ndezvekuti vanhu vakangotevera zano revanachiremba / virologists (avo, nenzira, havasi vese vanofunga zvakafanana) pasina kunyatso funga nezvemhedzisiro yematanho.
        Kutonga kwakanaka kwedambudziko kunorevawo kubvunza nyanzvi mune mamwe mativi (gerontology, dzidzo, mutemo, economics, logistics, mutemo wekunze, maitiro evanhu neboka, (mwana) psychology, IT, nezvimwewo) uye kutaurirana zvakajeka sarudzo nekufunga. (Muenzaniso chete. Wese wezvematongerwo enyika ari kudaidzira nzira yepasirese, yepasirese kuhutachiona. Sei zvino mari yakajairika ichipokana neItaly neSpain, wadii hurongwa hwepasi rose hwekugadzira nekugovera zvinhu zvinodiwa (nekutonga kwemitengo), nei. kwete mamiriro ekubhururuka nendege kwevarwere kuenda kuzvipatara zvine simba zvakare kumhiri kwemuganhu kudzivirira kuwandisa, wadii kutumira mauto kuti abudise uye / kana kugovera chikafu, wadii kutengesa masheya kuvharwa, wadii kurongeka kwepasirese kwemushonga uye yekudzivirira)
        Zvakajeka kwandiri kuti pakave nekushaikwa kwakakwana kweiyo uye ndicho chimwe chezvikonzero zvikuru nei vanhu vazhinji vakave nezvakaringana zviyero zvinorema. Uye hwaro hwemarudzi ese edzidziso dzekurangana nekuti nhamba huru yemibvunzo yakakosha haina kupindurwa. Zvinoita sekunge zvinonyadzisa kuti vezvematongerwo enyika vabvume kuti hatizivi zvinhu zvakawanda.

      • gore anoti kumusoro

        Kutora matanho nekufamba kwenguva kunoratidzika kunge kwakashanda zvakanaka. Mukuwedzera, rudzi rwezviyero. E.g. kurambidza kufamba kwemhepo nekukurumidza uye kurambidza zviitiko zvakabatikana zvakaratidza kushanda. Muenzaniso weizvi inyika zhinji dzeEurope: Netherlands yakabvumira ndege kuenda kuMilan pakupera kwaKurume, uye kushanya kunzvimbo dzemitambo yechando kwaikwanisika zvakare. MuUS, kurambidzwa kwendege kwakatoiswa muna Kukadzi 1 uye iwe zvino wave kuona kuti nhamba yevakafa pamiriyoni imwe chete yevagari yakaderera zvakanyanya kupfuura muBelgium, UK, Italy, Spain, Netherlands (yepamusoro mashanu muEurope). Kana iwe uchifunga kuti kana iwe ukatora New York kunze kwenhamba (inova iyo yakakura flashpoint muUS, uye uko kune vakawanda vekunze vanosvika) nhamba dzinoenderana nedzeGermany, iyo yakashandisa kukurumidza-kumhanya uye inorambidza zvakanyanya mutemo.

        Pasina kutenda huwandu hweThailand hwe100%, ndinofunga kuti mukana wekubata hutachiona pano mudiki, kunyanya nekuti vanhu vanowanzogara kunze. Dambudziko guru rehutachiona rinoratidzika apo mapoka makuru evanhu ari mumba kwenguva yakareba (2-3 maawa). Funga nezvecarnival, apres ski, mamiriro ekunze akaipa, ……..

        Ongororo yakanaka kwazvo yakaitwa naMaurice de Hondt pablog rake. Nyaya inokurudzirwa https://www.maurice.nl/2020/05/07/de-achterhaalde-mantras-van-onze-virologen-en-de-grote-gevolgen/

    • Johan anoti kumusoro

      Wadiwa Rene, pane 2 fungidziro dzakavanzika mumhinduro yako dzakaroverwa matiri tese. Mubvunzo ndewokuti kufa kusingagamuchirwe kungadai kwakaitika dai pasina matanho atorwa. Pane musiyano mukuru pakati pekusaita chinhu uye kudzora chiito chehurumende. Ona Sweden.
      Matanho acho anodhura Thailand mazana emabhiriyoni ebhaht. Kurasikirwa ikoko kunotorwa sokunge kuti kwaiva kwomuzvarirwo. Asi nei zvisina kusarudzwa kumisa kiriniki yekorona pano neapo mabhiriyoni gumi baht. China yakatotungamira Thailand pane iyi pfungwa.
      Zvakare zvinoshanda kuNetherlands, zvakadaro. Wobke Hoekstra anofanotaura kushomeka kwebhajeti inopfuura 92 bhiriyoni euros gore risati rapera. Dai kiriniki yakanga yavakwa mumakona mana eNetherlands, imwe neimwe ine bhajeti yemamiriyoni matatu emadhora, tingadai takachengetedza 3 bhiriyoni euros.

      • Cornelis anoti kumusoro

        Unoreva here kuti kuvaka makiriniki iwayo kungadai kwakaita kuti mamwe matanho ashaye basa? Handikwanise kufungidzira zvakanyanya, asi iwe unogona kuzvisimbisa, handiti?

        • Johan anoti kumusoro

          Kwete, kwete, asi sezvandataura, pane musiyano mukuru pakati pekuita chinhu uye kuita nenzira inodzorwa. Ikozvino pane kuita kunze kwekuvhunduka nekuda kwekutya kuunza mamiriro eItaly. Kupokana uku kwakashanduka kuita kusatendeseka kwekuvhara apo Spain yakaona kufa kwakanyanya. Hazvina kutaurwa kuti zvakafanana zviri kuitika kuUK. Brexit?
          KuEurope kwaiva kupi, uko EC inotonetseka nokureba nokufara kwedombo rinopfurwa richaiswa?
          Isu takaita (kutadza) kutya uye pahwaro hwetariro yezviri nani. Kutya mupi wezano akaipa uye tariro izano rakaipa. Pakupera kwaFebruary/kutanga kwaMarch, ruzivo runopfuura rwakakwana rwakanga ruripo. China yakanga yatovaka mamwe makiriniki, Taiwan haina kuvharwa asi yakateverwa nekutevedzwa, Singapore yaive neapp uye South Korea yakazvipira kuyedza kukuru. Paive nehafu-yakaongororwa SARS1 yekudzivirira pasherufu yeErasmus. Muna 2013 (!!!) vakanga vatoshanda pairi. Ingo google iwe pachako. Kuverenga zvinhu. Mukupedzisira, Rutte haana kushinga, uko Sweden inochengeta musana wayo wakatwasuka. Kudzivirira vakwegura nekuvaparadzanisa uye kugarisa vanorwara vega. Kubvumira vane njere nevadiki kuti vaenderere mberi nehupfumi. “Vanhu” havana kuita zvivindi zvekuparadzira zvese izvi nekuti zvaisatenderwa kugadzira mufananidzo wekuti kunyanya vakuru vaizofa. Asi tarisai, chii changa chiri kuitika muzvipatara, mudzimba dzinochengeterwa vakwegura, dzimba dzekuzororera, nezvimwewo mumavhiki apfuura? Anosvika zana remabhiriyoni emaeuro achaiswa muna 2020 chete, sekunge hapana? Kukuvadzwa kuchauya kwatiri setsunami muna 2021. Kuparadzaniswa kwevasina njodzi kwakange kwaitwa nemabhiriyoni akati wandei emaeuro!

          • Manyre anoti kumusoro

            Zvakanaka iwe kutaura Singapore. Iwe zvino unogona kuzvionera wega neyechipiri wave nei matanho akakosha. Ndinofara kuti kune vanhu vanozvinzwisisa uye dzimwe nguva vanotonzwa murima nehutachiona hutsva uhu vanopa mazano zvichienderana nehunyanzvi hwavo kupfuura vanhu vanorerutsa hutachiona uye vanohubvisa sefuru kana chinhu chidiki.

          • Harry Roman anoti kumusoro

            EU, kune rumwe rutivi, haina chekutaura mundima yehutano hweveruzhinji. Izvo zvinongowanikwa kune Nhengo dzeNyika. Nekudaro, kukwidza kwairi kunogona kuvharisa nekukasira kufamba kwemahara kwezvinhu nevanhu - Mbiru dzeEU.
            Zvakangofanana neFIFA, uye saka komiti yeOlympic.

          • Rob Kooymans anoti kumusoro

            Wadiwa Johan, ndinobvumirana newe zvizere uye ndingadai ndisina kuzvitaura zviri nani ini. Chakanyanya kuipa ndechekuti hatiwirirane zvachose, takangofanana nehutachiona. Vazhinji vanoita sevanofunga kuti tinofanira kungwarira kusvika mushonga wagadzirwa… Sezvizvi zvinogona kuitwa kana zvichidiwa, kana ukakanda mari yakakwana pazviri, hazvigone. Mushonga iwoyo unogona kusambouya, uye kana wasvika, unogona kushanda pamwe chete (kana zvisina kunaka) semushonga wefuruwenza.

          • Marcel anoti kumusoro

            Kudai Netherlands yakanga iri nyika bedzi yakaita kudaro, Europe ingadai yakagovera mari yedu pakati pedzimwe nyika.
            Iwe unogona kutoona kuti kushomeka kwebhajeti senge muItaly, semuenzaniso, kuchakurumidza kupa mabhiriyoni ekutsigirwa kubva kuEU, uye izvo zvatichafanira kubhadhara semukomana akanakisa mukirasi.

            NezveThailand, dai vasina kutora izvi zvakanyanya uye Covid yakapararira kupfuura nzvimbo dzevashanyi, kutambura kungadai kusingaverengeki nekufa kwakawanda.

    • Ruud anoti kumusoro

      Matanho ese aya angave akaita sei munzvimbo dzezvitangwena muBangkok uko dzimba dziri diki uye munhu wese anogara padhuze?
      Munhu mumwechete ane utachiona anofanira kutapurira nharaunda yese.
      Pane chakaipa pautachiona uhu.

      • HansB anoti kumusoro

        Zvakawanda zvinozivikanwa nezvehutachiona, asi kwete zvese zvakadaro.
        Paunotarisa nhamba munyika imwe neimwe, pane misiyano mikuru uye yechienzi.
        Zvimwe zvikonzero zvinobvira ndezvi:
        Kusiyana munzira iyo nhamba dzinotarwa.
        Kusiyana kwehuwandu hwevanhu.
        Kuderera kwehutachiwana pane tembiricha yepamusoro.
        Kusiyana mumatanho akatorwa
        Huwandu hwehutachiona hunenge kwese kwese kurongeka kwehukuru hwakakwira kupfuura huwandu hwehutachiona hwakaonekwa, asi iyo kurongeka kwehukuru kunoenderana nehuwandu hwekuedzwa uye nzira yekuyedza.
        Etc.
        Nb. Singapore haina chaizvo yechipiri wave. Huwandu hwezvirwere pakati pevagari vemo hunoramba hwakaderera.
        Pane imwe nguva, hutachiona hwakarova munzvimbo yevashandi vanosvika hafu yemiriyoni vanogara mukamuri ine vanhu gumi kusvika makumi maviri. Nekuda kwekuti vachembera, nhamba yevakafa yakaramba yakaderera.

      • Peter anoti kumusoro

        covid19 inobudirira zvakanyanya pakati pe1 kusvika 14 madhigirii uye hunyoro hunodarika 6gr pakirogiramu yemhepo.
        pamusoro pe27 degrees covid19 inonyangarika.
        Nekuda kwekupisa kwakanyanya muThailand pamwe nehunyoro hwakanyanya, hapana zvishoma kune COVID 19 muAsia.

    • Chris anoti kumusoro

      Maonero mashoma chete:
      1. kubva pakatanga kuyerwa kusvibiswa muThailand muna Ndira 13, hapana matanho akasimba akatorwa kusvika pakati paKurume, kana iwe unofanirwa kudaidza kuyerwa kwekushisa kwevachiri kuuya vashanyi kusvika Kurume 13 chiyero chakakomba;
      2. nhamba yevakafa yakanyorwa, zvechokwadi. Zvishoma zvinopimwa, saka zvausingazive hazvikuvadze. Kana mavhareji achishandawo kuThailand, vangangosvika mamirioni matanhatu Thais vanofanirwa kutapukirwa uye huwandu hwerufu hunosvika zviuru makumi matanhatu. (= 6%).
      3. kuti hutano hwehutano hwaisagona kurarama ishoko risingagoni kusimbiswa. Iyo system parizvino haina kumboremerwa. Shamwari yangu, mune manejimendi echipatara chakazvimiririra muBangkok, anoti chipatara chakagadzirirwa asi haana kumboona murwere mumwe chete wekorona.

  4. Erik anoti kumusoro

    Zvakanaka, pamwe nekuti Thailand inoziva kuti 'chete' kufa makumi mashanu neshanu kwakaitika nekuti nyika yanga isina kugadzirira uye pakanga pasina bvunzo seti…, nekuda kwehunyoro hunhu semuChina…, nekuda kwekusaedza zvakanyanya chikamu chehuwandu iri panjodzi yakawedzera…, nekuchinja chikonzero chekufa kwekorona nekuda kwezvimwe zvikonzero uye chekupedzisira asi chisiri chidiki: nekuti chokwadi hapana vanopfuura makumi mashanu nevashanu vafa.

    Uye, Henk, ungaita sei kana pasina matanho ekuvharirwa anotorwa uye mhuri yako iri pakati pevanotevera?

    Chero bedzi pasina mushonga unobvumidzwa, uye pasina kurapwa kwechokwadi, ndinotsigira matanho ekuvharirwa. Utachiona uhu hwakasiyana nemamwe uye hunoda nzira yakasiyana; Ndinofunga ndizvozvo.

  5. Diederick anoti kumusoro

    Vachafunga kudaro muAmerica, Italy, France, England, etc. “Dai takambopindira. Dai takanga tave nerufu makumi mashanu neshanu (kana pasi), uye tingadai takatangazve izvozvi ”

    Kunyangwe Thailand inoedza zvishoma. Ivo zvino vari pa 3.264 bvunzo pamiriyoni yevagari. Uye kusvika munguva pfupi yapfuura izvo zvaive zvishoma zvishoma. Saka iyo nhamba inogonawo kutorwa nehuyo yemunyu. Kuedza kuri kuwedzera muBotswana.

    Kunyangwe ini ndichitenda kuti ivo vari pasi pekutonga, nekuti hapana mifananidzo chero kupi kwezvipatara isingakwanise kubata kuyerera kwevarwere.

    (mabviro ehuwandu: coronavirus.thebaselab.com)

    Ini ndinofunga Thailand yave kuruma bara uye pakupedzisira kumhanya pamberi pedu muEurope.

    • Peter (aimbova Khun) anoti kumusoro

      Ivo vari pa 3.264 bvunzo pamiriyoni yevagari. Zvinoita sezvisina kunaka kwandiri.

      • Leo Bossink anoti kumusoro

        @Peter (aimbova Khun)

        Ndanga ndichiedza kukuonai, asi handikwanisi.
        Ungandibate here? [email inodzivirirwa].

        • Peter (aimbova Khun) anoti kumusoro

          Mhoro Leo,

          Ndakakunyorerai e-mail kanenge ka4. Zviri pachena kuti havasviki. Tarisa mune yako spam folda. Kana kutora gmail account, inoshanda zvirinani pane hotmail.

      • Gerard anoti kumusoro

        Zvakadaro:

        https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

        Kurongeka kwakavakirwa pahuwandu hwehutachiona hwakaonekwa munyika, muThailand mune zviuru zvitatu. Nhamba dziri pawebhusaiti ino dzakarurama kwazvo uye dzine mareferensi.

  6. Michael Siam anoti kumusoro

    Uku mubatanidzwa wepasi rose… hapana chimwe, hapana chidiki. Tarisa YouTube zvinyorwa zvaDr. Rob Elens, Dr. Wittkowski, Dr. Judy Mikovits, Dr. Rashid Buttar uye uchanzwa chokwadi pamusoro pezvirongwa zvepasi rose.

    • Jack S anoti kumusoro

      Mutendi mudzidziso yokurangana here? Nyika ingangove yakati sandarara here, hakuna masatellite uye nyika yakatoparadzwa nepuraneti iri kune rumwe rutivi rwezuva here? Uye kumhara kwemwedzi hakuna kumboitika?
      "Chokwadi" pamusoro pezvirongwa zvepasi rose zviri kuparadzirwa neboka revapenzi, vanouya nenharo dzinonyanya kupesana pamativi ose uye dzinoshandiswa mukunyengedza kunamatira kwavari.
      Asi chokwadi imhaka yaBill Gates, uyo achaisa jekiseni pasi rose nemushonga uchaita kuti tive varanda vanoda.

  7. Eric anoti kumusoro

    A mass hysteria yakagadzirwa pasirese, izvo zvinoreva kuti isu tine hupfumi huchaita kuti vakawanda vabatwe kupfuura covid pachayo. Zvishoma nezvishoma, vezvematongerwo enyika uye vezvehupfumi vava kutofunga nenzira iyi, kuruboshwe uye kurudyi, avo vari kumuka. Munguva yekuvharirwa, vanhu vanorwara vanowanzove vega uye kwete ivo vane hutano, vanogona kuchengetedza hupfumi huchifamba, kana kuti hazvisisiri zvakajairika kuti zvisikwa zviite basa razvo? vagari vanofara Vazhinji veThais havakwanise kutenga bvunzo.
    Nenzira, iwe unogona kufa mumigwagwa muThailand kupfuura kubva kucovid.
    Zvinorwadza kuona vanhu vakawanda vachigara pasi kuti vadye zuva nezuva, votanga hupfumi hwenyika uye vovhura miganhu kuitira kuti tourism nehupfumi zvienderere mberi, vave kugamuchira maChina nemawoko maviri.

    • Harry Roman anoti kumusoro

      Dambudziko diki: mushure memazuva mashoma ekupfapfaidza mavhairasi kutenderedza, iwe unongoziva kuti mumwe munhu ane hutachiona, kunze kwekunge waedza huwandu hwese svondo rega rega. Izvo zvakafanana zvinoenda ku "kuvhara" mapoka ese ane njodzi = vanhu vakuru + avo vane matambudziko ekurapa.
      65+ muNL kubva ku0,3 mamiriyoni mu1900 kusvika ku3,2 mamiriyoni mu2018 = 18%. Ndivo huwandu hwevanhu veUtrecht neGelderland pamwechete.
      Kune Thailand, ona https://www.un.org/en/development/desa/population/events/pdf/expert/29/session3/EGM_25Feb2019_S3_VipanPrachuabmoh.pdf
      Uye kurega "vechidiki" vachimhanyisa hupfumi husina kutariswa zvakare zvinoreva kuti vazhinji vachatapukirwa = njodzi huru kune "vakavharirwa", uko pasinawo zano rekuti vangani vevadiki ivavo vachafa ZVINO.
      Uye avo vanodhura vanochengeta vanhu vakura: vanoonda zvakanyanya, zvichikonzera kuderera kweinishuwarenzi yehutano maprimiyamu, inova nechokwadi chekuti mudyandigere uye gaka remudyandigere rinogadziriswa nekukurumidza, rinoita kuti kuyerera mudzimba dzevakoti (uko 2nd kana 3rd corona wave inogona kupa zvakatowanda mhinduro, yatova "mibhedha" yakawanda isina chinhu), inosunungura vanamukoti kuti vatarisire vechidiki, inosundira kuunganidzwa kwenhaka kumberi, inosunungura dzimba zhinji uye inochengetedza kushanya kwakawanda kune avo vanoziva-vose-vese vanhu vakura kune vakabatikana, vakabatikana. , vechiduku vakabatikana. Hatikwanise kuita kuti zvinyanye kunyomba... (chikamu chikuru chinoshandawo muThailand)

    • Herman asi anoti kumusoro

      Iwe sezviri pachena hauzive, sezvakangoita hurumende yeThai, kuti vashanyi vekuChina vanopa zvishoma kuhupfumi, nzendo dzakarongedzerwa uye dzinobhadharwa kuChina, kufamba kunoitwa nemakambani emabhazi eChinese, vanogara mumahotera eChinese kwavanonogara pahotera. zvose-munheyo .
      Hurumende yeThai haina chayakadzidza kubva kuRussia debacle, hafu yecondos muPattaya haina chinhu uye / kana kutengeswa.Asi maererano nehurumende, zvese zviri kufamba zvakanaka Thai Airways igomba risina magumo, nekuda kwehurumende. Hapana chinouya pamari yese yakavimbiswa nekuda kwekushaya mari.Saka tinongoti kune vanhu makumi mashanu nevashanu vafa muThailand, ndine urombo asi nguva yandanga ndichiri kutenda muFairytales yapera. akaenda.

      • Chris anoti kumusoro

        Wadiwa Herman,
        Vazhinji vamwe vashanyi vekunze havabhururuke kuThailand neThai Airways, asi nedzimwe ndege (Eva Air, KLM, nezvimwewo). Iyo mari saka kazhinji haiperi muThailand, uye kune zvakare mapakeji ezororo Thailand ari kutengeswa kuDutch tour operator.
        MaChinese anonyanya kushandisa mari yavo muvaraidzo (Grand Palace: 500 baht pamunhu) uye trinkets. Kunyangwe dai maChinese aya akangoshandisa chiuru cheBaht muThiland, angave miriyoni gumi zvakapetwa nezana 1000 baht. Izvo zvakanyanya kupfuura vamwe vashanyi vese vakaiswa pamwechete, tisingataure kuti mazhinji emahotera ndeekunze.
        Thai Airways iri mudambudziko nekuda kwekutadza kutonga uye kwete zvese zvakakonzerwa nehurumende.

  8. khun anoti kumusoro

    Tinoziva zviri nani sei! Asi vese ava vanoziva-izvo-zvese havana mhosva! Saka nzvimbo yakasununguka yekutora chikamu muhurukuro iyi, iyo inotungamira pasina.
    Ngationei kuti tinobuda sei munjodzi iyi kuburikidza nehurongwa hwedu hwezvematongerwo enyika.
    Nemhaka yokuti ingwavaira yenyika yose, ikoku hakugoni kurambwa.

  9. Ernie anoti kumusoro

    Ndakanga ndichiri kuThailand muna February. Ipapo vose vakafunga kuti vachafa, tourism yakanga yatove munzira kare kare. Ini ndakatofanotaura kuti hapana (hapana denda) chaizoitika muThailand nekuda kwemamiriro ekunze, hapana zviitiko zvemukati uye, pakati pezvimwe zvinhu, hapana kubata maoko kana kutsvoda pakukwazisa. Saka iye zvino vakarasikirwa nemabhiriyoni akawanda zvisina basa uye hupfumi hwaparara. Akanaka uye akangwara evanotya vezvematongerwo enyika / vakuru vakuru.

    • rutsigiro anoti kumusoro

      Emie,

      Kunyangwe dai pasina kurambidzwa kwakaiswa kune vashanyi vanobva kuEurope, nezvimwewo, vashanyi vangadai vasina kuuya (nekuda kwekuvharirwa munyika yavo). Izvo zvinoshandawo kune kunze kwenyika: yaive yatove kumashure uye haina kuvandudzwa nematanho ekorona mumunda wekutakura.
      Iyo cap brigade inogona kusagara ichiita sarudzo mukufarira kwenyika uye nevanhu, asi ivo vanogona kuita zvishoma nezve corona kana.

  10. Harry Roman anoti kumusoro

    Mune zvese zviri pamusoro, chinhu chimwe chisipo: vangani vafa vangave kana ZVISI zvose izvi zvidziviriro zvakatorwa.
    Kana hutachiona uhu hunogona kuwedzera husingadzoreki kwemakore akati wandei ... uye iyo counter yaizopedzisira yamhanya ku100.000 kana kupfuura, nekuti ZVINO zviyero zvese zvichange zvanyanya kunonoka.
    Nebepanhau ra2030 riri muruoko, munhu wese anoziva zvataifanira kunge taita zvirinani ZVINO, asi… nebepanhau ranhasi riri muruoko…
    Muna 2009, hurumende yeNLe panguva iyoyo yakatenga 34 miriyoni ampoules kurwisa furuwenza yeMexico, asi .. "hazvina kuitika". Iwe unotonzwisisa: nguva pfupi yakatevera iyo yese yeKlompenland yakazviziva zvirinani: idzo idiots kubva kuThe Hague dzaigona sei kutenga yakawandisa junk.
    Kutanga kwa2020: NL (nedzimwe nyika zhinji) vakapindura nerupo kudanwa kweChinese kwezvipo zvekuyamura, vachitarisira kuti Covid-19 icharamba yakaganhurirwa kuChina, senge SARS… Zvakaipa… etc michina yakanyarara, kugadzirwa kweEurope kunenge kusisina nekuda kwekusagadzikana, uye masheya muChina akafanana ne "masoja muhondo yakarasika". Uye NL zvakare mune iyo Mascot inotenderedza mapepa modhi: ziva zvirinani, unogona kuita zvirinani, ita zvirinani.
    Kuti zvive pachena, nguva yekupedzisira pataifanira kurwa hondo yemhuka dzesango yaive kubva muna 1918-1922. Munyika yose vanenge mamiriyoni 50-100 vanofa kubva muhuwandu hwevanhu 2 bhiriyoni. Kune izvo zvinomira padivi reNL, vanenge 48.000 vakafa muhuwandu hwemamiriyoni 6,75, asi Netherlands Indies 1-1.5 mamiriyoni muhuwandu hwe41,7 mamiriyoni, paCensus muna 1930. Nemamwe mazwi, nokuda kweNL-ikozvino, pa 17 mamiriyoni: 125.000 vakafa. Ungade here kuve Prime Minister weNL, kuita izvozvo muImba yeVamiriri resp. wozotsanangura paNieuwsuur nezvimwewo? Ditto Prayut nerufu rwakaipa zvachose 0.1-1 miriyoni pamamiriyoni makumi matanhatu neshanu eThais?
    Thailand uye yakasara yeSE Asia (Singapore ine 5,85 miriyoni vagari, gumi nevasere chete vakafa) ine rombo rakanaka: ZVIMWE bazi risina simba rehutachiona KANA .. kusanganiswa kwehunyoro hwepamusoro uye tembiricha uye saka mhedzisiro mishoma. Ndiani anoziva, mhedzisiro inouya muAfrica neLatin America ichataura.

    • HansB anoti kumusoro

      Huwandu hwezvingadai zvaitika dai pasina matanho akatorwa akareruka.
      Dzidzo yakaitwa nemuRungu Neil Ferguson et al. yaKurume 16 ine mapeji gumi nemasere akareba uye akakodzera kuverengerwa avo vanofarira chaizvo. Gwaro reChirungu, iro rakatanga kunonoka, rinobva pazviri.
      Vakafanotaura kufa kwemamiriyoni 0,5 muUK uye 2,2 miriyoni kufa muUSA pasina matanho. Izvo zvakashandurirwa kuhuwandu hwepasi zvinoreva kurongeka kwekufa kwemamiriyoni makumi manomwe.

      Muchidimbu zvinoenda sezvinotevera. Huwandu hwehutachiona hwakatenderedza 3, chero ichiri pamusoro pe1, huwandu hwevanhu vane hutachiona huchakura nekukurumidza. Kukura kuchamira kana vanosvika makumi manomwe muzana muzana vanhu vasisatapukirwa, i.e. vanosvika mabhiriyoni mashanu. Huwandu hwevanhu vafa hwave kufungidzirwa pa70%, saka 5 miriyoni uye nyonganiso isingafungidzike pasi rese, zvese mupfungwa nehupfumi.
      Uye kunyangwe paine 30 kana zana miriyoni haina kukosha zvakanyanya kumhedzisiro, iyo inoti:
      Matanho haadzivisiki.
      Nzira iyo, chiyero icho, nguva iyo, nyanzvi nehurumende vanogona kufungisisa. Kana iwe ukaverenga mapepanhau akadai seVolkskrant neNRC, unogona kuwana fungidziro yekuoma kwesarudzo dzinofanirwa kuitwa.

      Ndinoona mamwe emafungiro andinoverenga zvishoma.

      • HarryN anoti kumusoro

        Nyaya yako haina musoro. Murume uyu akapotsa mucherechedzo kakawanda (Paul Weston - Neil Ferguson's Legacy of Doom) Nekureva kwako kushumo iyi, ndinogona kukuudza kuti yakakurumidza kupera nemurume wacho. Mushure mevhiki 1 kana 2 kwaizongofa zviuru makumi maviri uye gare gare zvishoma akagadzirisa kusvika ku20000. Kukuvadza kwakange kwatoitwa panguva iyoyo nekuti hurumende yakaisa kuvharika pamushumo wekutanga.

        Mhedziso: Hapana anoziva zvingazoitika kana zvisingazoitike kana pasina matanho akatorwa. Zvese zvatinofungidzira kuti zvinogona kuitika imhanza yemhanza.

  11. T anoti kumusoro

    Wataura chokwadi kuti vangani vanhu vanofa mumotokari gore rega rega muThailand chete, nekuda kwemarariya / Dengue, kurumwa nenyoka, nezvimwewo hazvina kukosha, izwi rimwe chete rinonzwika CORONA.
    Uye izvi hazvisi muThailand chete, saka handifunge kuti zvinoshamisa kuti vanhu vazhinji vava kufunga kuti kune zvakawanda kwazviri kupfuura izvo zvinonzi CORONA.

    Chii chichaitika ndechekuti hupfumi hweThai hauzoramba hwakamira munguva iri kuuya.
    Ndichiri kunzwa vanhu vachiti indasitiri yevashanyi ingori chikamu chidiki chemihoro yeThailand.
    Zvakanaka ivo vari kuchemera zvishoma nezvishoma maeuro, rubles, madhora etc. etc. yeaya mafaranga anotyisa ayo vazhinji veThais havadi kusava nazvo.
    Ah hongu, kune dzimwe nhare dzehupfumi hweThai, iyo indasitiri yemotokari, semuenzaniso, hapana zvakawanda zvasara zvekuti ndiani achatenga mota nyowani sezvo pasina akawanda.
    Uye Thailand zvakare yaive nemafuta mashoma, nerombo rakanaka, rita haichakoshi chinhu.

    Ini ndinofunga Thailand iri kudzokera kumashure makore gumi nemasere uye haizongove Thailand.

  12. Ben anoti kumusoro

    Wadiwa Henk, huwandu hwevakafa hwakakosha zvakanyanya. Chinokosha ndechekuti kusvibiswa kunoramba kuine zvishoma. Ndinodawo kukupa zano rimwe chete, ona kuti hauriwane. Nekudaro, kana wakaiwana, ndokumbira udzoke kuti yaive yakaita sei kuva nayo.

    • Ger Korat anoti kumusoro

      Sezvinowanzotaurwa: voruzhinji vanohuwana uye havacherechedzi chinhu kana kuti zvishoma uye havanetseki nazvo zvachose. Point. Uye iyi poindi zvakare iri pamusoro penyaya iyi, kune avo vashoma vanhu vanorwara uye vashoma vehutachiona pazuva muThailand vanodzikamisa hupfumi hwese nemamiriyoni gumi vasingashandi. Uye ava havasi vanhu vasingashandi vatinopuruzira muNetherlands, asi vanhu vasina mari nemari. Verenga munhau kuti muItari (muvarombo maodzanyemba) 10 vanhu vatove nenzara nekuda kwenhamo yeCovid. Ndakaverengawo muNRC kuti vanhu zviuru zana nemakumi matatu vachasangana nenzara nekuda kweCovid. Ndinodawo chirevo pamusoro pemamiriyoni evanhu vasingawani zvokudya zvakakwana uye saka havana simba zuva rega rega, vasina simba uye vanofa nguva isati yakwana (ava vanowanzova vana). Uye kune ruzivo rwako (kubva kuUN): nguva yeCovid isati yasvika, vanhu zviuru makumi maviri nezvina vaifa nenzara pazuva uye izvi zvinogona kugadziriswa nekupa mupiro wekuwedzera wemabhiriyoni gumi nerimwe pagore. Enzanisa izvozvo nemabhiriyoni ayo zvino aenda.

  13. Harry Roman anoti kumusoro

    Vanhu vazhinji vanozvibata sekunge iyo nyaya yekorona yese imwe mhando yeInternational EXERCISE "Population Protection". "Bvisa mashopu ekofi munhau yenjodzi, zvikasadaro tichaparara." “Haikwanise kuvhurwa here mazuva maviri apfuura paine vanhu gumi vakagara panze pachinhambwe che10cm (?)? Vatambi vedu venhabvu vari kurasikirwa nehukoshi hwepasirese uye vanodhura avhareji ye 150 miriyoni pagore muhoro, saka ndapota tipei muripo - kubva mutero poto! Ditto theatre, uye dzimwe nzira dzakawanda dzekuzorora. Ditto Breda: 2 nzvimbo dzekudyira muguta rine 0,5 vagari. Zvimwe chete mumisha yakapoteredza.
    Iwe waifunga sei kuti iyo mari ye "Corona" inofanira kudzoka? Kubva pamiti yemari mubindu raWobke kana kudonha kubva padenga mu'The Tower of Rutte'? Kwete, zviri nyore: kuburikidza nemitero, kubva kwauri uye kunyanya INI.
    Mune mamwe mazwi: ndigutse kuti dambudziko rako rezvemari rinofanira kugadziriswa neYANGU (yakawedzera) mari yemutero!

  14. mukristu anoti kumusoro

    Ini ndinofunga avo vanotenda kuti kune makumi mashanu chete ekufa kwecovid haana njere, handizvitende, ndosaka hurumende iri kutora matanho akaomarara.

    Paive pakazara nevashanyi vekuChina apa. Pachine mutsauko pakati pevakanyoreswa covid vakabatwa uye nhamba chaiyo yevakafa. MuBelgium vanotoverenga munhu wavanofungidzira kuti akabatwa necovid. Mune imwe nyika chete avo vakamboedzwa vanogona kubvumidzwa, uye pamwe dta kuyedzwa kana kunyoreswa kunodziviswa nepose pazvinobvira kupa mucherechedzo wakanaka.

    Mamiriro ekunze haana kusiyana mufilipino indonesia malaysia uye nhamba dzakati wedzerei.

    Kutenda kunzira yakanaka ... ndine urombo, asi handisi kuona vazhinji veThai vachichengeta chinhambwe chavo, masupamaketi ari kufamba / akamira padivi peumwe neumwe, uye vanounza mazana evanhu pamwechete zuva rega rega kuti vagovane chikafu uye munhu wese akamira akatarisana nemumwe. zvimwe.

    Kunzwisisa kwese kuzvipatara, hapana anoda mamiriro asingagadzirike, asi chokwadi chinoramba chiripo chekuti kunyangwe kunonoka, hunhu huchaita kuti vamwe vakwegura uye vasina simba vabve gore rino, mushure mezvose, vanhu vanokwazisa nekukurumidza (inenge sekondi yega yega munhu akawedzera) .

    Kumisa zvese zveizvi uye kuwedzeredza mumaonero angu ... Ini zvakare ndinotsigira iyo Swedish modhi zvakanyanya, ramba uchienda, usaite njodzi yechipiri, munhu wese akanyanya kungwarira, disinfect maoko, gara kure uye kupfeka kumeso pazvinenge zvakakodzera, uye tave tichiuya kwenguva refu.

    • Harry Roman anoti kumusoro

      Ndinofunga kuti Belgium uye chikamu mwanasikana ane chokwadi kupfuura NL.
      Kwete, "MuBelgium vari kutoverenga munhu wavanofungidzira kuti akabatwa neCovid", asi ichokwadi mukana unoenda pachokwadi.

      Belgium ine 11,2 miriyoni vagari: 8656 vafa, avo 4114 vakasimbisa muzvipatara uye 4450 mudzimba dzekugara uye makumi mapfumbamwe nemaviri kumwewo. Zvakanyanya kutaurwa muchirongwa chenhau chega chega.Ona https://www.demorgen.be/voor-u-uitgelegd/coronavirus-in-cijfers-en-kaarten-het-aantal-besmettingen-doden-en-genezen-patienten~b5875c3f/

      Tichitarisa paNL ine 17,2 miriyoni vagari: 5440 zviri pamutemo. Tichitarisa pane rondedzero iri pazasi: isu zvakare tine kufa kwakanyanya mumavhiki matanhatu = 6 vanhu vane makore makumi masere + uye 5900 vanhu vane makore 80-2450. Sezvineiwo: fungidzira kuti zvinorevei maererano nemaprimiyamu ehutano, AOW + mubhadharo wepenjeni...

      80 makore kana kupfuura 2019: 84.988

      2020 vhiki 12* 2.083
      2020 vhiki 13* 2.551
      2020 vhiki 14* 3.080
      2020 vhiki 15* 3.058
      2020 vhiki 16* 2.638
      2020 vhiki 17* 2.284

      = 15.694 mumavhiki matanhatu kana 6/85.000 * 52 = theoretical 6 / 9807 wk = 6 kupfuura makore matatu apfuura.

      65 kusvika 80 makore 2019: 45.916
      2020 vhiki 12* 1.077
      2020 vhiki 13* 1.397
      2020 vhiki 14* 1.501
      2020 vhiki 15* 1.430
      2020 vhiki 16* 1.217
      2020 vhiki 17* 1.136

      = 7758 mumavhiki matanhatu kana 6/46000 * 52 = theoretical 6 / 5308 wk = 6 kupfuura makore matatu apfuura.
      Maona https://www.cbs.nl/nl-nl/cijfers/detail/70895ned

      • RonnyLatYa anoti kumusoro

        "inenge imwe mukana" ichiri kufungidzira uye iyo yekupedzisira zvakare izwi iro nyanzvi yehutachiona Steven Van Gucht weNational Crisis Center anogara achishandisa.

    • Harry Roman anoti kumusoro

      Singapore, ine vagari vayo 5,85 miriyoni inoshuma gumi nemasere (gumi nesere) kufa kwekorona. Tinogona kutora poindi imwe mune iyo isiri-democratic guta-nyika: hutano hwehutano hwakanakisa.

      • HansB anoti kumusoro

        Ndakatsanangura mamiriro ezvinhu muSingapore, vane utachiona vashandi vaenzi uye vari pasi pemakore 60. Ndiyo tsananguro. Kunyangwe Singapore haina chero zvipatara zvezvishamiso.

  15. mukristu anoti kumusoro

    Ini ndinofunga avo vanotenda kuti kune makumi mashanu chete ekufa kwecovid haana njere, handizvitende, ndosaka hurumende iri kutora matanho akaomarara.

    Paive pakazara nevashanyi vekuChina apa. Pachine mutsauko pakati pevakanyoreswa covid vakabatwa uye nhamba chaiyo yevakafa. MuBelgium vanotoverenga munhu wavanofungidzira kuti akabatwa necovid. Mune imwe nyika, avo bedzi vakamboedzwa vanogona kubvumirwa, uye kuedzwa kana kuti kunyoreswa kungadziviswa sezvinobvira sezvinobvira kupa murangariro wakanaka.

    Mamiriro ekunze haana kusiyana muPhilippines, Indonesia, Malaysia uye manhamba zvakare akakwira zvakanyanya ikoko.

    “Tinotenda nemaitiro akanaka…” ndine urombo, asi handisi kuona vazhinji veThai vachichengeta chinhambwe chavo, zvitoro zvikuru zviri kufamba/kumira padivi peumwe neumwe, uye vanounza vanhu zana pamwechete zuva rega rega kuti vagovane chikafu uye munhu wese akamira akatarisana. zvimwe.

    Kunzwisisa kwese kwezvipatara, hapana anoda mamiriro asingagadzirike, asi ichokwadi uye chinoramba chiri chokwadi chekuti kunyangwe kunonoka, hunhu huchaita kuti vamwe vanhu vakura uye vasina simba vabve gore rino, mushure mezvose, vanhu vanokwazisa nekukurumidza (inenge sekondi yega yega. mumwe munhu).

    Kumisa zvese zveizvi uye kuwedzeredza mumaonero angu ... Ini zvakare ndinotsigira iyo Swedish modhi zvakanyanya, ramba uchienda, usaite njodzi yechipiri, munhu wese akanyanya kungwarira, disinfect maoko, gara kure uye kupfeka kumeso pazvinenge zvakakodzera, uye tave tichiuya kwenguva refu.

    • puuchai korat anoti kumusoro

      Ini ndinobvumirana zvakanyanya nemhinduro yako. Zviri kuitika iye zvino ndezvekuti matanho akatorwa pasi rose, zvichibva pahuwandu husina kuvimbika uye fungidziro. Kunyange nhamba dzevakafa hadzina kururama. Ndakafirwa nasisi vangu mumwe chete ndisingazvifungiri gore rakapera. Munyika yakaita seNetherlands iwe ungatarisira kuti chikonzero chekufa chinogona kutsanangurwa, asi hapana. Pasinei zvapo nokuomerera kwadzokororwa kunobva kuhama dzokunyama, hapana tsananguro ine mufungo yakabudiswa mwedzi mitanhatu gare gare. Uye zvino kufa kwese kunonzi kuri nekuda kwechirwere chisingazivikanwe kare? Saka ini pachangu handizvidaviri. Uye zvino unonzwa vanhu vazhinji vachideredza furuu. Flu? Ndinogona kutaura kubva pane zvakaitika kwandiri kuti ihondo inenge yegore yekurwisa utachiona hwefuruu. Uye rimwe zuva hutachiona huchakunda muhondo, kana ini ndichaenda nekuda kwechimwe chinhu. Ngazvive zvakadaro, chikamu chehupenyu. Iko zvakare hakuna causal link pakati pezviyero uye kuderedzwa kwemhedzisiro yehutachiona. Izvozvo hazvigoni kupupurirwa. Uye ini chaizvo ndinofunga kuti kana iwe ukacherekedza yambiro yakajairika, yandakadzidziswa kubva kumba, kuhotsira mumucheka wako, kugeza maoko ako, kugara pamba kana uchirwara, zvakakwana. Kungofanana nemamiriro ekunze, vanhu vanofunga kuti vanogona kupesvedzera maitiro echisikigo, asi havafe vakakwanisa kuzvikanganisa. Hutachiona hucharamba huchiuya nekuenda uye Nyika icharamba ichishanduka. Ichiri nyika yechidiki, mukuyaruka chaiko. Haisati yatora chimiro chayo chekupedzisira uye iyo inosanganisira kuchinja kwemamiriro ekunze uye njodzi dzinongoitika dzoga. Zvichida mumazana mashoma emakore, apo zvimwe zvitsva zvinenge zvaitwa uye munhu achazviziva amene zviri nani. Uye kupfuura zvose, achaziva nzvimbo yake muchisiko. Uye kunyangwe zvese izvi, hapana munhu anofa nekukurumidza kana kunonoka. Uye hakusi netsaona kuti vakawanda kwazvo vanoberekwa. Pasi rinotarisa maitiro aya. Tarirai zvinoitika mushure mehondo. Ipapo varume vazhinji vachazvarwa (vacheche vana boomers, semuenzaniso). Ini ndinofunga chakanyanya kuipa ndechekuti vanhuwo zvavo vanoshanda (kwete vatengesi vemari, asi vanhu vanowanzo edza kutengesa zvigadzirwa zvavo zvitsva) vanovimba nebasa ravo remazuva ese kuti vawane chingwa chemazuva ese vanofanirwa kugara pasi, pasi rese. Mukuwedzera, muThailand vazhinji vevanhu ava vanotsamira pakushanya, magedhi ayo asingatarisirwi kuvhurika zvakare (zvinosuruvarisa). Zvinotarisirwa kuti rimwe zuva vezvematongerwo enyika vachadzika makumbo avo pasi voita zvavanofanira kuita. Kuve nechokwadi chekuti vanhu vanogona kuwana hupenyu hune chiremera kuburikidza nebasa. Uye kuti vezvenhau vanofanirwa kumira nekutaura kunokatyamadza uku pachinhu chimwe chete. Uye chinonyanya kukosha kuti upfuure nekunyepedzera kwakadaro kuvimba kuti hupenyu haupere nerufu rwenyama. Hazvina mhosva kuti vanhu vanoti asiya mweya. Uye ndizvo zvazviri.

  16. NAJAN anoti kumusoro

    Nezuro wacho, hama yemudzimai wangu yakafa kuLopburi. Akanga ane zvinetso zvakakomba zvikuru zvemapapu nokufema. Haasati atariswa Covid-19 sevarwere vazhinji vekuThai uye angangove mumwe wevazhinji vanofa zuva nezuva kubva mairi uye vasina kuverengerwa muhuwandu hwekufa kwecovid. Ndiani achiri so monic / naive nhasi kutora chimwe chinhu kana chakakomba kubva kuhurumende yeThai.

    • Herman asi anoti kumusoro

      Saka kana ukasaedza, hauna kufa zviri pamutemo. Ndinofunga kune anopfuura mazero maviri asipo pahuwandu chaihwo hwekufa kwecovid muThailand.

  17. John Eveleens anoti kumusoro

    Kubvumirana zvachose, Hank
    Izvi zviratidzo zvinyoro zve hydrophobia. Mwana anogona kuverenga (zvisinei nekuti masvomhu chaive chidzidzo chekusarudza) kuti 70 miriyoni Thais vese vachafa mukati memakore zana.
    izvo 700.000 pagore ... Kupfuura 1900 pazuva. Pasinei nechikonzero.

  18. Eric Constantinidis anoti kumusoro

    Zvimwe verenga zvinotaurwa nevirologist Peter Piot:

    Ndakaverenga ongororo yesainzi nezuro yakagumisa kuti une 30% mukana wekufa kana ukazopinda muchipatara cheBritish neCOVID-19. Ndiwo huwandu hwerufu rwakafanana nerweEbola muna 2014 kuWest Africa.
    West Africa zvakare iri paequator uye kunopisa kwazvo ikoko!

    https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/05/finally-virus-got-me-scientist-who-fought-ebola-and-hiv-reflects-facing-death-covid-19#

  19. vanneste kris anoti kumusoro

    Hugandanga hwezvokurapa inzira yevatungamiri yekuratidza simba ravo.
    Anenge makore mashanu apfuura, nefuruwenza yenguruve, pakanga painewo denda ...
    Vanhu vakawanda vanofa nekutya kupfuura nehosha yacho pachayo. Asi hongu, ese aya matanho anounza mari uye munhu anogona kuratidza kuti ndiani "sabhuku".
    Nekudaro, kune chokwadi chimwe chete muhupenyu huno: munhu wese anofanira kufa uye mukana wekufa unowedzera nezera. Nhamba dzinoverengeka dzenjodzi dzinogona kufambisira mberi zuva (kuputa, kupindwa muropa, cholesterol…)
    ASI HAPANA MUNHU ANOBVA RUFU…
    Hapana mubvunzo kuti zvimwe zvinhu zvinokurudzira zvirwere, zvakadai semamiriro ekunze uye kuwandisa kwevanhu.
    Takawanda vedu uye ipapo zvisikwa zvinogadzirisa zvese, asi munhu wese anokanganwa nhoroondo yavo: mamirioni akafa kubva nechibhokisi, furuwenza yeSpanish, denda, korera….
    Iye zvino muAfrica VANA vanoda kusvika hafu yemiriyoni vanofa nemarariya !! Hapana ane hanya nazvo...
    Hongu, indasitiri yemishonga ine isu tose musimba rayo .. Kutya (verenga kutya kusvibiswa) kunouraya zvisina tsitsi ... Ndiyo misika yemisika inosarudza kuti vanhu vanoita sei ... Ko Europe icharamba iripo here? Tichaona….

  20. Hank Hollander anoti kumusoro

    Zvinonakidza kuverenga kuti vangani virologists variko vanoziva zvirinani. Ehe, maThai anotora kurasikirwa kwehupfumi nekunakidzwa kukuru uye anogutsikana nehutachiona husiri chinhu sechikonzero. Kuvharira nyika yese kune avo vashoma vakafa. Zvakanaka, muSweden ikozvino kune vanopfuura zviuru zvitatu, pasina zvirambidzo zvakakura, asi isu haticherechedze izvozvo nekuda kwekureruka. MaAmateur virologists haana basa nazvo. Ichasvika riini nguva yekuti vese vanoita basa vachisiya sarudzo dzakadaro kune avo vanonyatsonzwisisa, mune iyi nyaya mavirologist chaiwo. Nyika haina kuvhunduka nekuti uhu utachiona husina chinhu. Pasina matanho akasimba iwe uchawana kufa kwakakura. Zvakanaka kuti danho rakakura rakatorwa muThailand, kuitira kuti nhamba yevakafa irambe iri shoma.

    • Leo anoti kumusoro

      Henk Hollander sei uchinongedza munwe kune avo vanofunga kuti matanho akatorwa haana basa. Iwe uri virologist hombe iwe wega zvekuti unogona kuratidza kuti kusatora matanho kunokonzeresa kufa kwakanyanya. Kwandiri ifuruwenza yakamboputiswa zvakanyanya nematanho akatorwa uye inokonzeresa hurombo uye kusagadzikana. Kana kuti hapasisina kufa sezvo matanho atorwa? Ehe, zvimwe chete. Munhu wose anoziva kuti anofanira kufa.

    • Chris anoti kumusoro

      Rega ndipe muenzaniso.
      Ngatitii pane dambudziko guru rehupfumi rinopararira pasi rose kuburikidza neChina. Kuitira kudzivirira kuipa uye kuparara kwehurongwa hwese, nyika zhinji dzinorambidza kubhadharwa kwemihoro nezvimwe zvikomborero (zvakadai semudyandigere); kana zvisina kudaro kunyange makambani akawanda nemasangano achakundikana. Makambani uko vashandi vanoda kushanda pasina mubhadharo anoramba akavhurika. Vamwe vose vanovhara magonhi. Veruzhinji vari kukurudzirwa kuti vatame vakaungana kumaruwa uye kuti vagare nemhuri neshamwari vanogona kuzvitarisira ivo pachavo chikafu nepose pavanogona napo. Pane tyisidziro yekushomeka kwechikafu (tisingarevi doro) asiwo nekuwanikwa nekuti misika zhinji nezvitoro zvikuru zviri kuvhara. Vanachiremba vari kupopota kuuraya kuzere ropa nekuti chikamu chevanhu (kutanga vasina simba) vari munjodzi yekufa nekushaya chikafu. Vanamazvikokota vezvehupfumi, vanopanga mazano kuhurumende chete, havana basa nazvo. Vane pfungwa yekuti kana hupfumi hwaenda kugehena, hapana achasara achidya. Hapana mari ichiyero chakakomba, asi hapana kutiza. Uye zvinogona kutora nguva, nekuti dambudziko rechipiri rehupfumi rinogona kutevera nyore yekutanga kana paine vanhu vachiri kuwana mari.
      Tingazvitora here izvi?


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