Vadiwa vaverengi,
Ini ndini Hans uye ndine mubvunzo nezvekuita kuda, kwandisingakwanise kuwana mhinduro yakajeka painternet. Ndinogara kuThailand (ndakadzimwa muNetherlands) nemusikana wangu wechiThai; hatina kuroorana zviri pamutemo. Iye zvino ndinoda kuita wiri yandinoda kusiya midziyo yangu muThailand kumusikana wangu ari kuThailand (kunyanya mari muakaundi yangu yekubhangi yeThai).
Ndinoda kusiya zvinhu zvangu muNetherlands (kunyanya mari muakaundi yangu yebhangi yeDutch) kuvana vangu vechiDutch (vanogarawo muNetherlands). Handina real estate muzita rangu.
Ndiri kutsvaga mhinduro kumubvunzo wekuti ndeipi nzvimbo yakanaka yekuve nechido chekuita:
- Pane imwe notary muThailand. Ini ipapo ndichave newiri yakadhirowewa muchiThai, ine dudziro yakasimbiswa muchiRungu.
- Pane imwe nyanzvi muNetherlands, uko ndinewo shanduro yakatenderwa yakaitwa muchiRungu.
Ndinoda zano rekuti ndeipi yeiyi sarudzo mbiri inodiwa (uye nei) kuitira kudzikisira kunetsa kwekuita kuda.
Pamusoro pezvo, ndinoda kuziva kana zvichibvira/hungwaru kusanganisa kuda kunoitwa muThailand muchiDutch kunonyoresa kana 1? Kana kuti kana 2 zvichikwanisika / zviri nyore kunyoresa kuda kunoitwa muNetherlands nemunyori muThailand?
Ndinokutendai mberi kwemhinduro yenyu!
Kwazisai,
Hans
Hans, Thailand haina rejista yepakati yezvido (CTR) seNL, saka hapana kunyoresa; Iwe unogona kuita kuti chido chako chiiswe munzvimbo yakachengetedzeka muhofisi yeguta (pamutengo mudiki, kwete zana baht) kuitira kuti kuvepo kwekuda ikoko kugone kuratidzwa zviri pamutemo serimwe zuva.
Ini ndagara ndichishandisa: iwe une chido chakadhirowewa munyika yako yekugara uye kwauri iyo Thailand. Iwe unogona kuve neiyo icharekodhwa muCTR muNL kuburikidza neDutch notary. Ndakawana ruzivo rwekupedzisira kubva kumunhu wechiDutch anogara muTH.
Nekuda kweDutch unogona kusangana nedambudziko randakambobatanidzwa.
Munhu wechiDutch ane chido cheDutch. Mushure memakore anopfuura 10 ekugara muThailand, murume anofa uye mudzimai wake anokumbira Dutch notary kuti aite chido. Anouya nemibvunzo nekuti mushure memakore ese aya haana chokwadi chekuti shirikadzi iyi ichiri mukadzi wake here. Mibvunzo yakadai seyokuti 'vakanga vachiri vakaroorana pazuva rekufa kwavo' uye 'kuratidza kuti akanga asina mumwe mukadzi' uye 'kuratidza kuti hapasisina chido cheThai chemazuva ano' inobvunzwa nechirikadzi uye nekuda kwehurongwa hwakasiyana hwekunyoresa. Thailand hapana mhinduro kune izvozvo.. Mushure mokukakavara kukuru, zvinhu zvose zvakagadziriswa kuburikidza nematare eDutch, asi zvinotora nguva uye, pamusoro pezvose, mari.
Saka zano rangu nderekuti: kuda kweTH kwaunosiya zvese muNL kuvana vako veNL wosiya zvimwe kune mumwe wako weThai. Bvunza gweta reThai netsamba yekuti anogona kuita basa rekuongorora.
Sekuwedzera. Ndakaita kuti magweta eIsaan aise pachena muwiri iyo maakaundi ebhangi anofukidzwa neThai will. Uyewo kuti zvinhu zveDutch hazvina kubatanidzwa. Handina kuita chero gadziriro padivi reDutch nekuti mutemo wechiDutch unoshanda kana ndafa.
Wadiwa Hans, taura negweta reThai uye neDutch notary, asi ndinofunga uchawana mhinduro inotevera, yaungadai wauya nayo wega:
Enda kugweta riri kuThailand unyore gwaro rezvauchasiira musikana wako kana wafa. Rondedzera zvishuwo zvako, kusanganisira gadziriro yekuti anobvuma kuti haana mari nemidziyo yaunowana kuvana vako. Chiitiko chacho chinochengetwa paamphur. Ikopi yegweta, uye zvechokwadi kopi kune wese anobatanidzwa.
Enda kune mucherechedzi muNetherlands uye uite kuti inyorwe muwiri yako zvaunoda kusiira vana vako maererano nemari nemidziyo, kusanganisira chibvumirano chavo chekuti havazove nechero zvirevo mushure mekufa kwako pane zvaunosiya kumusikana wako. Tairendi.
Ehe, iwe unogona kuita kuti zita reThai rishandurirwe muchiRungu uye wowedzera masiginecha uye zvitambi (Thais love it!) kune kuda kwako kune notary, sezvaungaitewo kuti kuda kwako kushandurirwe muchiRungu, mumiriri anokumbira mamwe masiginecha uye zvitambi. , uye opa makopi eizvi kune avo vanobatanidzwa pamwe chete negweta uye kuti anyore neamphur.
Kuve neizvi zvakabatanidzwa muDutch kuchanyoresa kunetseka kune gweta.
Wadiwa Eric,
Ndinokutendai nemhinduro yako yakajeka uye yakakosha!
Wadiwa Hans, handizivi kana izvi zvine basa kwauri. Ndakanga ndine chido chakaitwa muThailand chemidziyo yangu muThailand uye muNetherlands yezvinhu zvangu muNetherlands. Ndinogona kuvhara zvese nazvo.
Mukana wekuti uchasangana nekunetsa pakuita kuda kwako mudiki, asi hongu iwe unodawo kuchengetedza hama dzako dzasara.
Mhoro Hans,
Ini handisi gweta, asi ndinofunga zviri nyore uye zvakachengeteka kuve nechido chakadhirowewa muNetherlands.
Inoti zvese zvaunazvo muNetherlands ndezvevana vako.
Kuti zvinhu zvese muThailand zvinosiiwa kune mumwe wako panguva yekufa kwako. Hama dzako dzasara dzichagashira kopi (Thai muchiRungu) yechido chako.
Kana iwe ukaparadzana usati wafa, nhaka yemukadzi wako weThai inopera. Chaizvoizvo otomatiki. Icho chikamu chinobatsirawo vana vako veDutch (kana uchida) kana mumwe mubatsiri.
Ini ndinokupa zano kuti ugare uchisarudza Dutch notary nekuti inopa CTR dziviriro, zvirinani kune yako Dutch zvinhu. Izvi zvinodzivirira nhaka yevana vako.
MuThailand zvakanyanya kuoma. Kana iwe usisipo, uye nekudaro hapana kutonga kunogona kuitwa pazvinhu zvako, chero chinhu chinogona kuitika kumidziyo yako. Ndine chokwadi chekuti kana munhu achida kuita zvakaipa, haabudiriri. Mudzimai wako wazvino angangove ane kadhi rekubhangi kana kuti anogona kuishandisa kubvisa muakaundi.
Kana mukarambana nguva isati yakwana, uchafanira kumurambidza kupinda kuaccount(s). Saka block.
Nenzira, kana pasina yakaenzana neCTR muThailand, ini handioni kukosha kwakawedzerwa kune gweta reThai. Muchiitiko cherufu rwako, izvi zvinogona kudzivirirwa nyore nyore nekuti hapana "kuferefeta" chisungo.
Ndinovimba maonero angu / maonero anobatsira kwauri. Rombo rakanaka.
Kana wakadzingirwa kunyoresa muNetherlands, mutemo weThai unoshandawo kuNetherlands.Saka enda kufemu yezvemitemo uye uve newiri yakadhirowewa muchiThai neChirungu uye tsanangura zvaunoda nezvaunosarudza.
Anodiwa Hans,
Makore apfuura ndakawana chinyorwa chinotevera kubva kunyanzvi yangu kuti ndinyore wiri yezviri pamutemo, yakanyorwa neruoko rwangu, zvinoenderana nezvinodiwa zvaunotaura.
“Iyi ndirwo runyoro rwaVaM. …………………………………………………………………………………, vachigara mu……………………………………., murume waMai ……………………………….
Ini ndinokanzura zvese zvibvumirano zvandanyora pamberi panhasi.
Ini ndinogadza semumiriri wangu mukuru wezvivakwa zvese zvinofambiswa uye zvisinga fambise zviri mu (Belgium/Netherlands) vana vangu:…………………(zita) uye zuva rekuzvarwa…………uye nzvimbo, zvichienderana ne mitemo yekutsiva uye kuramwa mabasa.
Ndinogadza semumiriri mukuru wezvivakwa zvese zvinofambiswa uye zvisinga fambise zviri muThailand, mudzimai wangu………………………………..(zita) nezuva rekuzvarwa………………………… uye izvi chete kana tisina kuparadzana panguva yekufa kwangu uye pasina nyaya dzekurambana dziri kumirira, muchiitiko icho pfuma yose ichava yevana vangu, vataurwa pamusoro apa.
Hurongwa kana vana vangu (mazita) vasina vana:
Kana mumwe wavo akafa ndisati ndasvika, pamwe chete neni kana mutsaona imwe cheteyo mukati memwedzi mitatu mushure mangu, kana kuti nokuda kwechimwe chikonzero akasava chikamu chenhaka yangu, mugove wacho uchava womumwe munhu wevanhu vaviri vataurwa. kumusoro.
Mukadzi wangu haana usufruct panhaka yemwana(vana vangu).
Yakagadzirwa mu…………..pa………….. (zuva).” Sainirwa.
Yakanyorwa nemaoko mumakopi akawanda kwazvo kune mumwe nemumwe wevana uye imwe yemudzimai.
Iwe unogona zvakare kuita kuti magwaro aya anyoreswe zvakare nekuturikirwa nemuturikiri akapika.
Izvo zvakare zvinokurudzirwa mune yako nyaya kuti utaure zvakajeka chivakwa chinotakurika (maakaundi ekubhengi) nenhamba yavo nemabhangi (mabhangi).
Sezvo usina kuroora, haugone kutaura nezvemusikana wako semukadzi….
Anodiwa Yan!
Sezvandinoziva, chido chakanyorwa nemaoko hachibvumirwi pamutemo muNetherlands; hongu muB naD.
Kwaziwai, Haki
Haki, ndizvozvo. MuNetherlands iyi inonzi codicil uye izvi zvinongogoneka kune nhamba shoma yezvinhu uye zvechokwadi kwete mari, yezvivakwa zvisingabvisiki uye nekugadza muiti. Necodicil iwe unowanzo kutaura nezve kuti ndiani anowana cuckoo wachi uye ambuya yekare kabati ...
Ngwarira wiri yakanyorwa nemaoko. MuNetherlands, mari dzemari dzinobva dzabviswa.
Ndakatopa imwe yemari yangu kuvana vangu nevazukuru vari muNetherlands pasina mutero. Vanogona kuishandisa ZVINO ...
Mari yangu nemidziyo muThailand zvakaiswa muwiri negweta reThai kumudzimai wangu wechiThai.
Anodiwa Hans,
I am a retired lawyer asi kwete nyanzvi munyaya yemutemo wenhaka. Zvakangodaro, ini ndinogona kukubatsira iwe kuita sarudzo dzakafanira nemuenzaniso unoshanda usingapereri. Nyaya dzemitemo yenhaka dzinosanganisira nyika dzakawanda nekuti midziyo inogovaniswa pakati padzo dzinowanzonetsa.
Mukuona kwangu, mutemo mumutemo wepasi rose wekuwana chiziviso chenhaka, ndiyo nzira iyo midziyo iripo.
Makore mashoma apfuura ndakakumbirwa neInternational Legal Assistance department (OIPP muchiThai) yakabatana neThai Public Prosecution Service muBangkok kuti ndiongorore nhaka yemukomana weThai wemakore gumi, mwanakomana wemukadzi wechiThai nemurume wechiDutch, akafa kamwe kamwe. Pairatidzika kunge paine mari, ingangoita zviuru mazana maviri emadhora eUS, mubhangi reLuxembourg, nepo gweta reThai kana rechiDutch risingabhadharwe (vakakumbira mari yepamberi). Nekuda kwerufu rwakangoerekana rwavapo, pakanga pasisina nguva yekuita chido.
Mutemo wakakosha ndewekuti hurongwa hwenhaka hunoshanda kune nyika iyo mari yaive mubhangi, saka mune iyi nyaya Luxembourg. Kuwana chiziviso chenhaka kwakada kushanda nesimba, izvo zvaisanganisirawo mutongi weThai. Zvose izvi zvakashanda pamwe nekutenda kuOIPP, uko kwakabvumiranwa kuti mari yakaitwa yaizodzoserwa chero zvakadaro.
Nyaya yakareba kwenguva refu: mushure memakore anopfuura maviri ekufamba pakati peLuxembourg neNetherlands uye nekuendesa magwaro anodiwa, chiziviso chenhaka chakabudiswa neLuxembourg notary uye bhangi rakabudisa mari: kupfuura 700.000,00 madhora!
Ndinokurudzira kuti iwe nguva dzose ubvunze Dutch notary kuti uwane mazano, nokuti iwe unewo vana vari mune chero mamiriro ezvinhu vane kodzero yenhaka yepamutemo pasinei nezvinodiwa mukuda.
Uye pamwe musikana wako wekuThai anogona kukumbira mazano kubva kuOIPP (ona saiti yavo), sekuziva kwangu mahara uye ndiani anogona kukubatsira kana kukuendesa kumagweta/vanyori vanovimbika kuThailand.
Rombo rakanaka,
Paul
Ndakanga ndanyora kuda kwangu muchiThai nechiRungu naIsaan Lawyers, taingove ne email yekubata. Kuda uku kunongoshanda muThailand uye izvo zvakandikwanira nekuti handisisina kana midziyo muNetherlands.
Ndinokutendai mose nekuda kwemhinduro kumubvunzo wangu. Ndinogona kuenderera mberi neizvi. Ndakafunga, pakati pezvimwe zvinhu, kuti kugadzira chido chenhaka muNetherlands neThailand kwakanga kusingabatsiri; Izvi zvinodaro nekuti yekutanga dhizaini yaibva yapera kana kechipiri wiri yaitwa. Asi zvinhu zvinogona kunge zvakasiyana kana iyo will yakadhirowewa muThailand ichingoshanda kumidziyo yeThai uye iyo dhizaini yakadhirowewa muNetherlands ichingoshanda kumidziyo yeDutch. Ini ndichaongorora zvakare, pamwe nemamwe mazano. Ndatenda zvakare nemhinduro.
MuNetherlands, vanhu havana sarudzo yemahara uye vagari venhaka vanogona kutora mugove wavo wepamutemo. Ichi chaive chikonzero chekuti ndiite chido muThailand nekuti wakasununguka. Sangano reDutch umbrella notary rakandiudza kuti kuva ne2 wills hazvigoneke zviri pamutemo, maererano nezvibvumirano zvepasi rose. Ndakaronga mukuda kwangu kweThai kuti zvese muThai zviende kumusikana wangu uye zvese muNL zvinoenda kuvana vangu. Ndine kopi muhamvuropu yakavharwa mune yangu yakachengeteka yegf yangu uye kopi imwechete yeumwe neumwe wevana vangu vanovachengeta kumba muNetherlands. Pamusoro pezvo, gweta remuno muTh rine kopi. Kana ndafa, gf yangu inogona kuenda kugweta rinozobata zvese zviri pamutemo kuburikidza nedare reThai (zvakare kune chikamu cheDutch).
Negwaro redare muchiThai unogona kuzvidudzira muchiDutch uye kunyoreswa zviri pamutemo. Gwaro iri rinoendeswa kuDutch notary uyo anoita chikamu cheDutch. Pamutemo kusapinda mvura.
Ndiri kushandawo pawiri. Yakagadzirirwa zvakapatsanurwa chete yemidziyo yeThai uye yakapatsanurwa midziyo muNL. Iyo yeThai idenderedzwa. Asi iyo yeDutch yakamirira. Handikwanise kuenda kuNetherlands izvozvi kuti ndisaine gwaro. Handisati ndawana mumiriri anobvuma kuti ndinosaina gwaro muThailand negweta rangu + zvapupu pano.
Cherekedza: mawiro akasiyana maererano neminda hazvirevi kuti mawiro ese ekare akakanzurwa.
Ita pachena kuti chibvumirano chinoshanda chete kumidziyo muThailand kana Netherlands.
Kubva pane ruzivo rwangu, mutongi weDutch anofunga kuti panogona kuva ne1 chete. Yekupedzisira ichadhirowa otomatiki inodzima iyo yapfuura kuda.
Kana munhu achida kuva ne2 wills inogara, 1 yeNL uye 1 yeTH, matambudziko anogona kumuka.
Naizvozvo, kana zvese NL neTH zvichidhirowewa, uko, semuenzaniso, iyo NL ichatanga kudhirowa, zvino ita kuti chirevo chakajeka chinosanganisirwa muTH chinozodhirowewa gare gare kuti TH ichashanda se SUPPLEMENT kune yatove. iripo NL ichaita, iyo iyo Thai haizotsiva iyo maDutch mune chero ruremekedzo.
TH ichagadzira kuda muChirungu neThai, kusanganisira chinyorwa chekuti kana paine kusahadzika nezvezvinoreva izwi, chirevo cheChirungu chinokunda.
Wadiwa Hans
Ndakava nedambudziko rakafanana makore maviri apfuura
Ndave nemusikana akanaka weThai kwemakore 9 uye kubva ini handina kunyoreswa uye kwete zvakare
Ndaiti ndikada kupinda muchikepe chandaiziva, ndainzwa kuti kana pane chimwe chinhu chaizoitika kwandiri, hapana chandaida kuti ashaye. Ndakavaka mamwe matura muThailand neNetherlands.
Saka ini ndaive ne 2 zvido zvakadhirowewa kumusoro, zvese muTH uye muNed. Izvi zvinotsanangurwa zvakajeka mune zvese 2 will.
Chinokosha ndechekuti midziyo yangu yese muTH inoenda kumusikana wangu uye midziyo yangu yese yeNed inoenda kune vadyi venhaka yangu yeNed. Saka zvakangofanana naBram Siam.
S6 Peter Bol