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Vadiwa vaverengi,
Kana iwe uri pazororo kunze kwenyika kweanopfuura mwedzi 8, mune iyi kesi pano muThailand, ndeipi mhedzisiro? Ndinoziva kuti unosungirwa zviri pamutemo kuti usanyore, asi ini ndichagara ingangoita mwedzi miviri kupfuura iyo 2 mwedzi nekuda kwedambudziko reCorona. Somuenzaniso, unosvikwa pamusoro peizvi naMarechaussee muNetherlands here?
Ndakaverenga kumwe kuti unofanirwa kubhadhara faindi ye380 euros?
Pane ane ruzivo nazvo here?
Kwazisai,
Max
Mhinduro ndeye Kwete, kana uine pasipoti yeEU inoshanda, unogona kuuya nekuenda kazhinji sezvaunoda. Basa reMarechaussee kuSchiphol kudzora muganhu. Ini handizive nezve faindi ye380, uye zvirokwazvo haishande kwauri.
Ndatumira email kukanzuru kunogara mukoma wangu (ndine kero yake sekero yetsamba) nemubvunzo uyu.
Hapana dambudziko. Iri ndiro simba majeure. Hapana faindi kana chimwe chinhu.
Asi hongu, paunongopa mumwe munhu pfuti, zvinhu zvinogona kuchinja mupfungwa dzavo.
Izvi zvinotoshanda kana iwe ukapfekedza mumwe munhu muBOA monkey sutu.
Pano vanhu vanodonhawo pasi pehuremu hwe epoulet.
Max, unonyora 'rini' saka haisati yasvika nguva iyoyo. Chii chaunoita kuti uone kuti wabata maneja kana izvi zvatyisidzira? Ipapo une chokwadi pamusoro pepolicy ipapo. Kumanikidza majeure kunoratidzwa, ndinofungidzira, saka nei manejimendi achikubvisira kunyoresa?
Kana ukasatibata uye vaona kuti wave nemwedzi inodarika 8 usipo, maneja anogona kukubvisira kunyoresa uye inshurensi yehutano ichaziviswa, uye kwete ivo chete. Ipapo nhamo yakawanda ichauya nenzira yako uye izvi zvinogona kudzivirirwa nekutaura panguva yakakodzera uye kubvunza. Iva nechokwadi kuti pane chinyorwa chakanyorwa cheizvi; email ine mukuru inobva yakwana.
Iwe hauna chekutya paSchiphol. Mapurisa echiuto ane zvimwe zvekuita.
Muchiitiko ichi, faindi (yekutonga) inogona kupihwa chete nekanzuru yako. Izvi zvinokonzerwa nekutyorwa kwemitemo yeBRP (Personal Records Act).
Imwe yezvisungo ndeye kutizivisa kana URI KUTARIRA kugara kunze kwenyika kwemwedzi misere mumwedzi gumi nemiviri. Maona, pakati pevamwe https://www.sso3w.nl/onze-diensten/voorlichting-medewerker-en-gezinsleden/praktische-informatie-voorbereiding-op-een-plaatsing/overplaatsing-van-naar-een-post/veelgestelde-vragen-over-de-basisregistratie-personen
Hurumende yepakati zvinosuwisa kuti inosiya izvi pane dzimwe nzvimbo dzayo. E.g. on https://www.rijksoverheid.nl/onderwerpen/privacy-en-persoonsgegevens/vraag-en-antwoord/uitschrijven-basisregistratie-personen
Kana faindi ikambotemerwa, pikisa, semuenzaniso nekudaidza force majeure. Kubvunzana nekanzuru yako panguva yakakodzera kazhinji hakukuvadze, kunyangwe zvichigona kuita kuti vakuru vakuru vanoshingaira vafunge (zvisizvo).
Iyo Marechaussee kuSchiphol zvechokwadi murindi wemuganhu. Ivo vanotarisa huchokwadi hwepasipoti yako uye voona kuti wakanyoreswa kumwe kunhu kuti ubhadharwe faindi kana pane inodiwa rondedzero. Ivo chaizvo havasi kuzotarisa kuti wanga watora nguva yakareba sei kubva muNetherlands. Havatarise zvitambi zvedzimwe nyika.
Iwe hauzosangana nematambudziko paunopinda muNetherlands, asi unogona kunge uine matambudziko nechikonzero chekuti watadza kudzoka. KLM yanga ichibhururuka vanhu kubva kuBangkok kuenda kuAmsterdam kubva pakutanga. Chawaifanira kuita kubhuroka tikiti uye kumira muBangkok.
Max uyezve kune vamwe... kubva muna Mbudzi 2019, KUGARA nekudzoka kwemugari wese kwakarekodhwa !! Kusiya Belgium kana Germany haisi sarudzo yekugara kunze kwekukuvadza. .Ndisipo kwe more than 8 months? Mabhero nemiridzo zvinorira handizivi kuti vanoitei nazvo asi unogona kurasikirwa nezvose, BSN number yako, imba yako nehealth insurance fund wodzokera panzira futi. Kunyangwe iwe ukatsvaga imba nyowani, unozopedzisira wasvika pazasi. Zvakaipa kwazvo kuti ndakarasa chidimbu ichi kubva mupepanhau rehurumende. Panyaya iyi isimba majeure uye hapana matanho achatorwa, asi kana zvese zvadzokera kune zvakajairika, tarisa. mberi kusvika kureba kupfuura kunyangarika kubva kuHolland kwemwedzi 8. Iwo mutemo kubva muna 1896, yave nguva yekuti ubviswe.
Reference ndapota. Zvinoita sezvakanaka kunze kweblue kwandiri.
Pamabhodha akawanda hapana chinoongororwa. Vaizotevera sei?
Tsoko sandwich?
@willem, The Netherlands inhengo yeEU uye nekudaro chero shanduko mumamiriro ako pachako ichaendeswa kune dzimwe nyika dzese dzeEU. Shanduko yekero, penjeni application, AOW zvichingodaro. Zvamazvirokwazvo zvose. Ndavepo, ndakaita izvozvo.
Zvakanaka, Theo, unogona kuzvitsigira. Kusvika ipapo, handizvitendi zvachose.
Eduard, munyaya iyi haisi kumanikidzira majeure, nokuti KLM yakaramba ichibhururuka uye munhu wese wechiDutch aida kubhururuka achidzoka.
TnT, force majeure haisi iyo criterion, ndizvo here? Mutemo unopindura mubvunzo ".. Ndirini pandinofanira kudzima pandinobva kuNetherlands?" zvinotevera:
“..Unofanira kudzima kunyoresa kana uchitarisira kugara kunze kwenyika kweinenge mwedzi 12 mukati memwedzi gumi nemiviri. Nguva iyi haifaniri kutevedzana. Kusabvisa register imhosva inorangwa uye zvinogona kukonzera matambudziko pakudzoka…”
Eya, pakanga pasina kariro yakadaro! Muchinda uyu aingoenda parwendo ndokubva aerekana korona yooneka. Nekune rimwe divi, kanzuru ichapokana kuti mudhara uyu anogona kunge asina kuita zvese zvaaigona kuti adzoke mukati memwedzi misere. Asi zvimwe zvinhu zvingave zvakaita basa ipapo, zvakadai sechirwere kana chimwe chinhu.
Ndinoona zvakanaka kuti mudhara uyu ataure nekanzuru yekwaanogara kuti abvunze nezvepolicy. Uye kana zvisina kudaro hapana imwe sarudzo kunze kwekuenda kuNL (kwechinguva) pakati paAugust. Panguva iyoyo tinenge tichibhururuka zvakare.
Matauriro aEduard ekuti ucharasikirwa neBSN yako anoita seasina kunaka kwandiri; Mushure mezvose, iwe unoramba uri mugari wechiDutch. Kana NL iriyo nyika yako chete, haungorasikirwe nayo; ipapo panofanira kunge paine zvakawanda zviri kuitika.
Nyaya iyi inoita seisina musoro kwandiri.
Ndingaratidza here kuti mumwe munhu, semuenzaniso, haambofi akarasikirwa neBSN yake?
Muchidimbu, hausi kuzorasikirwa nemba yako kana ukaramba uchibhadhara imba kana rendi. Kana iwe usingade kuisa njodzi yekurasikirwa nemba yako (yekurojesa) panguva yekugara kwenguva refu kunze kwenyika (funga nezve cheki dzinoitwa nemakanzuru pakugara zvisiri pamutemo) uye, semuenzaniso, unoda kuita kuti kunyoreswa zviri pamutemo kugoneke panguva iyoyo: ndapota. kumbira muridzi wemba mvumo yekuvharirwa pamba. Izvi zvinowanzopiwa kamwe chete kwegore rimwe kana maviri.
Homwe yeinishuwarenzi yehutano haichavepo. Ndiyo ikozvino inishuwarenzi yehutano iyo munhu wese akanyoreswa muNetherlands ane (uye anofanira kubhadhara).
Ungarasa sei nhamba yako yeBSN?
Ndanga ndichigara muThailand kwemakore anopfuura 15 kwemwedzi ye12 pagore, ndakadzimwa kubva pandakabva kuNetherlands kubva kare uye ndine uye ndichachengeta nhamba yangu yeBSN, kunyange Digi D yangu ichiri kuitika.
Nhamba yangu yeBSN yakatotaurwa mumapasipoti angu ese akavandudzwa panguva yekugara uku.
Uye iwe unoziva chikonzero nei, nekuti uchine chizvarwa cheDutch.
Uye ungarasikirwa neimba yako sei kana iri pfuma yako yakazara, pamwe kondirakiti yako yekurenda kana vasingachanzwi kubva kwauri uye vasingachagamuchire rendi.
Jan Beute.
Hapana hwaro hwepamutemo hwekubhadhara faindi paunopinda nekubuda semugari weDutch munyika yako, uye munyika dzese dzeEU. Vagari venyika yeEU vagari veEurope zvakare maererano neEU Charter. Izvo zvakasiyana zvishoma kana zvasvika pakunyoreswa muBRP (yaimbova: registration yevagari) semugari. Hausungirwe zviri pamutemo kunyoresa. Kuve mugari harisi basa kana kodzero, asi bhenefiti, uye unofanirwa kuzadzisa marudzi ese ezvinodiwa, senge kero yekusingaperi kana kero yeposi uye chiziviso chemwedzi misere, uko kune zvakawanda zvinosiya. Vagari - pakati pezvimwe zvinhu - vakavharirwa neinishuwarenzi yehutano inomanikidzirwa uye vanogona kuvimba nemhando dzose dzezvirongwa zvakadai serubatsiro, maallowances, nezvimwewo, uye vanogona kuvandudza pasipoti yavo nerezinesi rekutyaira zviri nyore, kuvhura akaundi yekubhangi, nezvimwewo. yakanyoreswa (yako sarudzo kana kunyoreswa zviri pamutemo)) ipapo iwe hausi kuzobva warasikirwa nekuva mugari weDutch, saka hapana matambudziko kana faindi paunopinda nekubuda. Mushure mezvose, iwe unogona kuzvisarudzira iwe kuti ndeipi nyika yaunoda kugara mairi, chero bedzi hurumende ichiziva nzira yekusvika kwauri (zvine chekuita nemitero yemitero, AOW, penjeni, kushevedzera sarudzo, nezvimwewo). Manisiparata anogona kudzima munhu kubva kuBRP pasi pezita rekuti: VOW (Akabva Kusingazivikanwe KwaKuenda) mumwe munhu ane chimiro chekugara asingazivikanwe mushure mekunyatsoferefetwa. Muchiitiko ichocho, pasipoti inogonawo kubviswa pakupedzisira mushure mekunyevera uye kuongororwa, uye kwete mberi kwegore rimwe chete. Izvi zvinoreva kuti iwe unorasikirwa neugari hwechiDutch uye unogona kuve usina nyika. Unogona kurambwa kupinda paSchiphol. Nyaya dzakati wandei dzakaitwa panyaya iyi kusvika kudare reEU. Nekuda kwemigumisiro mikuru yemutongo wakadaro, dare repamusorosoro reEU rakaona kuti danho rakadaro rinopesana nekodzero dzinokosha dzeUniversal Declaration of Human Rights uye ECHR. Saka iwe unofanirwa kuita nhamburiko yakawanda isati yasvika ipapo.
Kunyoresa kero, kuzivisa kutama uye kuenda kunze kwenyika zvisungo izvo mutemo wechiDutch unoisa kune wese munhu.
Kare, izvi zvakavakirwa pakuda kwevagari kuronga izvi pachavo.
Mazuva ano, faindi dzehutungamiriri dzinogona kuiswa. Sezvakataurwa namunicipal.
Makanzuru anofunga kuti anogona kudzima munhu kunyoreswa (uye vanogara vachidaro, maitiro anotora mwedzi yakati wandei). Muchidimbu, izvi hazvina kunaka uye zvinogona kupikiswa kana chero munhu akaziva chero nguva kuti izvi zvaitika.
Ichokwadi kuti zviri nani kuti urege kuirega ichisvika panguva iyoyo, kunyatsofunga nezvesarudzo dzako uye kutora matanho anodiwa iwe pachako nenguva.
Ndapota cherechedza kuti zvinenge zviremera zvose mumusimboti zvinovimba nekururama kweBasic Registration (BRP). Uye kuti marudzi ese ekodzero uye zvisungo zvinoenderana nekunyoresa ikoko (funga nezveAOW, mutero, inishuwarenzi yehutano, nezvimwewo).
Ndine urombo Peter, asi izvi hazvina maturo uye zvinotyisa, hausi kuzorasikirwa neugari hweDutch uye hauzove asina nyika kana ukagara kunze kwenyika kwenguva yakareba, chero usina nyika mbiri.
Vanhu vane nyika mbiri vanogona kurasikirwa nekugara kwavo kweDutch kana vakasavandudza pasipoti yavo nenguva, makore gumi ega ega.
Ini handisi kuzopinda mune zvese zvamanyora izvozvi.
Haisi dambudziko kune Marechaussee kuSchiphol.
Asi handizivi kuti munoda rubatsiro rwekurapa here, neZKV yenyu, vane mitemo yavo, tarisai mapolicy conditions enyu.
AOW inewo mitemo yayo yandinoziva, kana uchienda kure more than 3 months unofanira kuvazivisa vachatendera asi vanoda kuziva kuti inyika ipi, nyika iyoyo isungano. nyika kana kuti ndeyeEU.
Hans van Mourik.
PS
https://www.kernpuntnederbetuwe.nl/is/werk-en-inkomen/uitkeringen/vakantie-en-buitenland/vakantie-doorgeven/aow-en-vakantie
Hans.van.Mourik
Panogona kunge paine nyaya mbiri dzinobatanidzwa kana uchigara kunze kwenyika kwenguva yakareba kupfuura 2 mwedzi.
Kwete chete maneja kwemwedzi misere yekugara kunze kwenyika, asi kana ukaverengera kudzoka kwako kwemwedzi inopfuura 8 pachinzvimbo chemwedzi miviri, saka inishuwarenzi yehutano yeDutch zvakare inopinda mushure megore rekugara kunze kwenyika.
Nezve yekutanga: zvirinani kuitamba zvakachengeteka uye kubata kanzuru yako muNL pamberi uye invoke force majeure; munyaya ino yakanyatsoratidzwa. Kumbira mhinduro neemail kuitira kuti ugone .
inogona kuvimba neizvi kana zvichidikanwa.
Kana iwe usingatarisirwi uchigara kunze kwenyika kweanopfuura gore 10 pane 1 mwedzi, iyo Dutch inshuwarisi yehutano haichakwanise kuchengetedza inishuwarenzi inoshanda. Unofanira kubva wanyorera chirevo cheWLZ kubva kuSVB.
Wadiwa Max,
Kana ukagara kunze kwenyika kwemwedzi inopfuura 8 kana kugara kunze kwenyika, unofanira kunyoresa neRNI (Non-Resident Registration).
https://www.rvig.nl/brp/rni
Nekudaro, mune yako pane force majeure, saka ini handingazvinetse nazvo zvakanyanya.
Uyezve, mutemo ndewekuti iwe unofanirwa kugara muNetherlands kweinenge mwedzi 4 pagore, asi haugone kuwana chero kupi mhedzisiro kana ukasatevedzera izvi.
Chinhu chega ndechekuti iwe sezviri pachena unowira mune chinzvimbo cheGhost Citizen.
Ini ndinofungidzira kuti inogona kuve nechekuita neinishuwarenzi yehutano yako, iyo inogona kuzopera, asi ndiri kufungidzira, handizive, asi icho chinhu chinogona kuita basa. Zvisinei, handina kumbobvira ndawana chinhu pamusoro pazvo ini.
Ndinovimbawo kuti unogona kudzoka kuhutano nekukurumidza.
Rukwaziso rwose. Bz
Ichi hachisi chidimbu chekeke, zvinosuruvarisa kuti handisisina chinyorwa kubva mupepanhau rehurumende, asi vane masimba vane ruzivo vanoziva chaizvo kana munhu abva uye anosvika zvakare! Unogona kuiverenga paPi-Nl. Ndinoodzwa mwoyo kuti vanhu vashoma vanoziva izvi. Kana iwe wakabviswa kuHolland, iwe hauna chekuita nemutemo wemwedzi misere.
Dear Eduard, uri right, kana wakabvisirwa registration hapana chinonetsa. Nyaya iyi sezviri pachena ine chekuita nemunhu asina kunyoreswa!Ipapo iyo PI-NL system inotanga kushanda maererano newe (ndinogona kunge ndakakanganisa) Asi iyi system yakagadzirirwa kurwisa hugandanga uye mhosva dzakakomba!!!
Saka iwe unofungidzira yakakura sei mikana yekuti ichauya kune iyo registrar kumwe kuNetherlands kana kupi zvako kwawakamboenda kwenguva?
Kunyangwe pachiremera chinofanira kuzvitarisira, hapana anomuka oshamisika kana mumwe munhu agara kwenguva refu.
Wadiwa HarryN, pakupedzisira, zvikasadaro ichava saiti yekutaura, uye ivo havadi izvozvo.
Kubva muruzivo rwemukati ndinoziva kuti iyo WIA inobatsira agency yatove nekuwana iyi data, zvinoreva kuti masangano akawanda anogona kuishandisa. Hurumende inoda kuronda munhu wese. Mari yepurasitiki mune ramangwana imhosva kune mugari. Ini ndinongoda kujekesa kuti kana uine muvakidzani ane godo nekuti uri kugara muThailand kwemwedzi ingangoita makumi maviri panguva uye ukazvitaura, ndine chokwadi chekuti maneja achangokubvisa iwe uye imba yako ichadzingwa. kuvanza, asi kana vakakurumidza kuziva kuti unotenga katoni yefodya pavhiki, inishuwarenzi yehutano ichaziva kuti unosvuta, zvichida maeuro gumi akawanda pamwedzi.? In short, tirikubatwa nhapwa uye izvo hazvina nzvimbo mudemocracy uye semakwai akafurwa tinotora zvese.Mutemo kubva muna 20 maererano ne1 months idzodzo unofanira kubviswa, asi hazviitike, nekuti ipapo tinenge "takarasika" , uye iyo hurumende haidaro.Munhu wese ngaatore mutoro wake.Muve nezuva rakanaka.
Ko kutya kutya.
Ini nguva pfupi yadarika ndakafonera IND nezve vamwene vangu vekuThai vaive vakabatikana muno muNetherlands.
Changamire hapana chekunetsekana nazvo. Isu tinoziva zvakare kuti corona yakapararira. Haufanire kuuya padhesiki reIND navamwene vako. Titumirei email ine madetails aamwene wenyu Visa towedzerwa hapana chikonzero chekuvhunduka.
Uye zvichavewo neimwe nzira kutenderedza, kana mumwe munhu adzoka kuNetherlands aine pasipoti yeDutch panguva iyi yekorona dambudziko uye angadai akadhindisa iyo mwedzi misere.
Hausati wagutsikana?
Zvakanaka, wobva wati wanonoka nekuti wanga uchirwara uye wanga uri wega uye saka watadza kubhururuka uchidzoka kare (iwe haudi kutapurira chero munhu mundege).
Wadiwa Raymonf, izvi hazvityisi uye kuenzanisa kwako navamwene vako vekuThai uye IND kwakangofanana nekuenzanisa maapuro nemaorenji.
Wese munhu anofanirwa kutora mutoro wake uye kana Max achida kugara muThailand kwenguva yakareba kupfuura Nyamavhuvhu, achatora njodzi iye pachake uye kuziva mhedzisiro inogona kuitika, ndizvo zvakare zvaaida kuziva pano nemubvunzo wake paThailandblog.