Mubvunzo wemuverengi: Thailand yakagamuchira ruzivo rwakasiyana rweCorona kubva kuChina, uye ndosaka huwandu husina kushata?
Vadiwa vaverengi,
Ini ndingori munhu akapusa uye ndinoedza kufambirana nezviitiko zvakatenderedza Covid19 nepandinogona napo. Zvese izvi nekuda kwezera rangu uye pfungwa yekuda kugara muThailand rimwe zuva. Kana izvozvo zvichiri kugoneka, nenguva yakafanira.
Ndine mutsara wekufunga unotevera: China inyika hombe ine nharaunda ye9.600 square km² uye huwandu hwevanhu 1.400 miriyoni, yakapararira pamusoro pe34 matunhu akasiyana siyana. Europe ine nharaunda ye10.200 km². Kune vanhu vane mamiriyoni 744 vanogara munyika 44. Zvinoita sei kuti purovhinzi imwe chete (Hubei, mamirioni makumi matanhatu vagari) yakatarisana nehutachiona hweCorona, uye mamwe makona ese epasi haana kana kana zvachose, chero zvipi zvazvo zvidiki zvekuti zvakazoitika. zvakakodzera kutaurwa? Tiri kutaura pamusoro pevanhu vanopfuura mamiriyoni e60. Hubei uye kunyanya guta guru Wuhan rakavharwa, asi ini handisi kuziva kuvharika kwese kweChina. Maguta mahombe akavharwa zvishoma, seBeijing neShanghai, asi ndizvozvo.
Kana iwe ukaenzanisa Hubei neNetherlands, Hubei anobuda akasununguka, aine nhamba imwechete yevakafa. Nhamba dzeThailand hadzisi panzvimbo zvachose. Iyo Netherlands yakanyatso tambira kunhau yekuti hutachiona hwasvika, uku Thailand ichibata nehutachiona zvakanyanya. Kufa kwakawanda kwakaitika muNetherlands, nepo kukuvadzwa kwevanhu nenzanga muThailand kusvika parizvino kwave kushoma. Thailand yakawana rumwe ruzivo kubva kuChina here? Mhinduro yeThailand yakasununguka inonzwisisika here nechikonzero ichocho?
Hapana kana chipatara chimwe chete muThailand chakashanda sekupenga kuti chiwane vanorwara zvakanyanya kusvika pakukwana? Zvipatara zvakazvimiririra zvinotoramba kutambira varwere veCorona. Uye zvinozoitika: kana zvipatara zvakazvimiririra kana zvehurumende zvakazara neCorona, uye kushandiswa kwekuputika hakudi kugadzirwa nemibhedha yeICU. Pane mhirizhonga pamusoro pemasks emuromo aifanirwa kupa imwe mari kuburikidza nekutengesa mumigwagwa, asi hapana kwandinonzwa kana kuverenga chero chinhu nezve kushomeka kwembatya dzekudzivirira, nezvekutsvaga kwekudzivirira, kana nezve kushandiswa kweimwe mishonga mukurapa varwere. maererano nekuwedzera kwezvirwere zviripo uye kuwedzera kwavo nehutachiona hweCorona. Uye hapana mishumo nezve matura ekurapwa akamira kune vanhu vane cancer, chirwere chemoyo nezvimwe zvakadaro.
Masvondo maviri apfuura, kuvharika kwechikamu kwakatanga kushanda muThailand, uye panguva ino hurumende yePrayut iri kufungawo nezve zano rekubuda.
Ko Thailand yakawana ruzivo rwakasiyana kubva kuChina nezve kukanganisa kweCorona, nekuti kukanganisa kuChina kwaingogumira kunzvimbo diki ine nhamba diki yevagari tichifunga nezvehukuru hwenzvimbo uye huwandu hwevanhu veChina?
Kwaziwai.
Lieke
Mhoro Lieke,
Ndinogara kuThailand uye ndanga ndichifamba nguva dzose mumwedzi mishoma yapfuura. Sekuona kwangu, Thailand haina kuzorora zvakanyanya nezvehutachiona, asi yakatanga kare. Kubva kupera kwaNdira kwakange kwatove nematemperature scans paairport nedzimwe nzvimbo dzakasiyana siyana. Zvirambidzo zvekufamba zvakazounzwa pakutanga kwaKurume, nhandare dzendege dzakavharwa uye zvirambidzo pakufamba kwepakati pematunhu zvakaunzwa. Kutariswa kwemashure kwakaitwa kune vanhu vane hutachiona kutsvaga uye kupatsanura humwe hutachiona hunogona kuitika. Chinhu chega icho Thailand yaigona kuita zvirinani mumaonero angu kwaive kuvhara muganho kuenda kuChina kare.
Enzanisa neNetherlands, uko kusati kwave nemacheki panhandare dzendege, uko pasina kutariswa kwekushisa kunoitwa, uko kusina masks echiso anopfekwa uye pasina cheki yekumashure inoitwa. Sanganisa izvo negwara risingagutse kubva kuRIVM, hurumende inotora matanho kunonoka uye nhepfenyuro yenhau iyo sezviri pachena iri kudiwa zvakanyanya pakati pechikamu chevanhu vane maonero avo matanho haakwanise kusimba zvakakwana, uye une mutsauko.
Wadiwa Wim, ndizvo zvandiri kureva. Zvinoita sei kuti Thailand yapindura nekukurumidza uye nenzira kwayo kune yekutanga corona mishumo? Sezvauri kutaura, wakatanga here kuyera tembiricha panhandare dzendege Ndira apfuura? Thailand iri padyo neChina uye inogona kunge yakave nehuwandu hwevashanyi veChinese, asi Netherlands yakaramba ichifunga kuti yaifanira kuita zvisina basa pakutanga kwaKurume, nepo United Kingdom yakatozviramba pakutanga kwemwedzi uno. Ko Thai RIVM yaive neimwe / zvirinani ruzivo / yambiro? Ndinoona zvichishamisa kuti nyika dzeEurope hadziite zvakaringana nepo nyika yakaita seThailand ichiita zvirinani. Kubuda muBangkok kuenda kumaruwa hakuna kana mhedzisiro, uye kurambidzwa kwekufamba nekudzoka nekuda kweSongkran yaive sarudzo ine musoro. Zvadaro wobva waenda kuThailand.
Kukurumidza uye kwakakwana ?? Iwe haugone kubata vanhu vanorwara nekuyera tembiricha chete. Unogona kutapukirwa kweanenge mavhiki maviri uye uchifamba-famba usingaone zviratidzo. Thailand yakabvumidza maChinese kupinda mimwe mwedzi miviri anogona kurwara zvakanyanya asi anga asati ave nefuru/corona. Ngozi huru, zviremera zveThai zvakagamuchira kushoropodzwa kwakawanda nekuda kweizvi. Maonero angu akarurama.
Zviremera zvakanga zvasvika panguva yakadini chaizvoizvo? MuThailand, murwere wekutanga weCorona akaonekwa muna Ndira 13. Hurumende yakabvumira maChina kupinda pasina zvirambidzo, kunyangwe kubva kunharaunda yeWuhan. Kuyera kuyera panhandare yendege kunoonekwa sekwakakwana. Kwaingova kwaKurume 20 kuti kudanwa kwakauya kuti vanhu varambe vari kure (kufambidzana munharaunda) uye nekuzvidira kugara pamba nepavanogona napo. State of emergency yakatanga kushanda munaKurume 24. Kubva ipapo matanho chaiwo akatorwa. Ndiyo mwedzi miviri neshanu mushure mekuonekwa kweCorona kwekutanga munyika.
Muchidimbu kuenzanisa neNetherlands: munhu wekutanga kurwara muna Kukadzi 27. Hurumende yakaunza akati wandei maitiro ehutsanana munaKurume 9. Kubva munaKurume 11, hurumende yakadana vanhu kuti vagare pamba, vadzivise kushamwaridzana nevamwe, nezvimwe. Kubva munaKurume 15, chengeta chinhambwe chemamita 1,5. Ndiyo mavhiki maviri kubva pakatanga kuonekwa.
Kufambidzana munharaunda, kuchengetedza chinhambwe chako, nezvimwe zvakaratidzwa kubatsira. Thailand haina kukurumidza kufona, kunyangwe huwandu hwevanhu vairwara hwakange huchiri kushoma. Asi ipapo panouya mubvunzo wehuku nezai. Huwandu hwehutachiona hwakasimbiswa hwaive huchiri hushoma nekuda kwehuwandu hwebvunzo, kana huwandu hwebvunzo hwaive hwakaderera nekuda kwehuwandu hwevarwere vanorwara?
Chero zvazvingava, kuti Thailand yakatora matanho 'nenguva yakakodzera' ipfungwa yandisingabvumirani nayo. Ini ndinoona kunonoka kuita uyezve nekukasira ad hoc zviito (semuenzaniso kuvhara miganhu nekukasira). Izvo zvakashata zveizvi ndezvekuti vese vagari uye zviremera havana kuwana nguva yekuchinja, kuvhiringidzika, nezvimwewo (ona zvakaitika panhandare yendege apo vanhu vakangoerekana vapinda muhusungwa). MuEurope, pakanga pane zuva kana maviri pakati pechiziviso uye kushandiswa kwemaitiro akadaro (muganhu wakavharwa). Izvi zvinoreva nguva yakawanda yekugadzirira, asiwo mukana wekuti mumwe munhu atsvedze neasingaonekwe. Chii chiri nani? Unogonawo kuva nemafungiro pamusoro pazvo.
Uye sekunyora kwaChris pazasi, masks echiso (haakudzivirire, anokudzivirira zvishoma kana ukamira padyo nemumwe munhu uye woasasa, asi zviri nani kungochengeta chinhambwe chako kubva kune vamwe) aisawanzoonekwa kusvika Kurume. . Ini handingadaidze mwedzi miviri yezvishoma kuita nekukurumidza uye zvakakwana, asi munhu wese ane maonero ake.
Ndinofunga kuti tinofanira kutarisa kune imwe nzvimbo kuti tiwane tsananguro
https://www.thailandblog.nl/nieuws-uit-thailand/coronacrisis-thailand-15-april-30-nieuwe-besmettingen-en-2-personen-overleden/#comment-587776
Rob, iwe unoziva kuti ini handisi kufarira hurumende iyi. Zvakadaro, ivo zvino vane mamiriro ezvinhu ari kunyatso kudzora. Nehurombo, izvi zvave kuitika nekukuvadzwa kukuru kwehupfumi.
Ini ndinoona kupfeka kudzivirira muromo nemhino (ikozvino 99% muBangkok) sechikamu chakakosha chehuwandu hwakaderera. Dziviriro haisi yako, asi inova nechokwadi chekuti madonhwe anodzivirirwa zvakanyanya pakuhotsira kana kukosora.
Imwe misiyano yakakura nhamba ye "super spreader zviitiko" muEurope. Aya ndiwo mutambo wemitambo, carnival, masevhisi emachechi, uye chero kumwe kwakaungana vanhu vazhinji, vachiimba kana kupopota vasina masiki, munzvimbo dzisina mhepo inofefetera zvakanaka. MuThailand kwaingova nechiitiko chimwe chete chakadaro (bhokisi nhandare) kubva kwakaitika zvirwere zvakanyanya.
Vanhu vazhinji havatendi nhamba dzeThailand. Ndino. Pachave nehutachiona hwakawanda kupfuura hwazvino zviuru zvitatu, asi huwandu hwevakafa haugone kuvanzwa. Muna Kukadzi, mishumo yehurumende yakanga yakashata zvikuru. Hushumiri hwese hwaive nemafungiro ahwo uye zvematongerwo enyika zvakaita basa rakakura. Zvino zvakajeka zviri nani zvikuru. Chirevo ichi chave kungoitwa navanamazvikokota vezvokurapa uye makurukota akamiswa kwenguva. Uyu muvengi wezvekurapa akajairika anogona kungorwiswa nenyanzvi dzekurapa, uye kwete semuUS, semuenzaniso, uko kuwana kwezvematongerwo enyika kunotungamira kune vazhinji vanorwara nevakafa.
Mudambudziko rakadai, ndafara kuti ndinogara kuno.
Kukuvadzwa kukuru kwehupfumi kwakakonzerwa nevanhu vazhinji nematanho aripo imwe nhaurirano.
Ndichiri kutenda kuti manhamba muThailand akadzikira zvakanyanya kupfuura muNetherlands, kunyangwe ndaizoda kumirira kuverenga kubva kunyanzvi mumunda wevakabatwa necorona. Zvingave kana kwete zvakare zvichienzaniswa nehuwandu hwevakafa (kuti munhu aone kana paine chero chinhu chinoshamisa ipapo uye ozvienzanisa nenhamba dzekorona). Hurumende yeThai ikozvino yave kutora danho rakakura (kusanganisira Netherlands), asi izvo zvanga zvisiri izvo kubva pakutanga. Ini zvakare ndine kushoropodzwa: kuunza ad hoc matanho pasina nguva ye24-48 kuti vagari nevakuru vakuru vagadzirire, pakati pezvimwe zvinhu, yakagadzira mhirizhonga paSuvarnaphum. Izvozvo zvingava zviri nani. Nzira yekugadzirisa nayo migumisiro yehupfumi zvirokwazvo imwe hurukuro.
Asi ndekupi kwatinofanira kutarisa kune musiyano muvanotambudzwa? Kwete nekuti vakashanda zvakanaka kubva pazuva 1 uye saka vaizova nemukana (chimwe chinhu chandingati kuTaiwan). Nzvimbo yenzvimbo (tembiricha, mamiriro ekunze, mwando)? Ndiani anoziva, inogona kuita basa. Kunyangwe isu tichiziva kubva mukutsvagisa furuwenza kubva kuAustralia kuti huwandu hwevanhu vanorwara hauna kusiyana zvakanyanya pakati penzvimbo dzinodziya uye dzakapfava. Zvinhu hazvina kunaka kwese kwese muIndonesia... imhaka yekuti vangani vanoungana mukamuri vachivhenekera dabhi remumwe nemumwe? Zvichida izvozvo zvinondikanganisawo, zvokuti nyika dzine vanhu vanopedza nguva yakawanda vari kunze dzine pundutso.
Ini hangu handitombozvitauri. Ndinoziva kuti handisi kuzoimba rumbidzo yehurumende yeThai. Handingavaboorere muvhu zvisinei nerumborera rwakaitwa. Pakanga pasina zvinyorwa zvakagadzirira, saka unogona kutarisira kukanganisa uye kukanganisa. Zviri nyore kutonga mukutarisa kumashure. Ndichamirira ndione kuti vanamazvikokota vachati kudii, kufembera semunhu asina basa kunonakidza, asi mhinduro handina. Nokukurumidza pachava nenguva yakakwana yokuongorora kuti ndezvipi zvakafamba zvakanaka nezvakaipa. Ndiri kufara kuno kuNetherlands, ndinofunga kuti zvingadai zvakandiponesa muThailand zvakare.
NB: zvakanaka, iyo US, iyo helmman inoenda kumativi ese ... kwete chaizvo iyo nyika huru pasi. Iniwo ndinoramba zano reSweden:
- https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/19/anger-in-sweden-as-elderly-pay-price-for-coronavirus-strategy
- https://thethaiger.com/coronavirus/swedens-massive-public-health-gamble-is-failing
Ini pachangu handitendi kana izwi revanhu vepamutemo kubva kuhurumende yeThai. Pasati pave nenhamba dzekuti vangani vanhu vakaedzwa chaizvo, uye isu tinogona kumirira kwenguva yakareba kuti tifananidze pakati pehuwandu hwekufa hunotarisirwa uye huwandu chaihwo hwevakafa.
Ndakanga ndine mudzidzi airatidza zviratidzo zviri pachena zveCovid-19 mukirasi kutanga kwaKurume: fivha, kukosora uye kurwadziwa nehuro. Chiremba wepachipatara muBangkok akamupa mushonga wokutarisira urwere hwake ari kumba. Kubvunzwa nezve corona bvunzo: hapana iripo uye inodhura zvakanyanya maererano nachiremba uye iwe unofanirwa kuzvibhadharira wega. Huwandu hwehutachiona hwakasimbiswa husina kumbowedzera munguva iyoyo.
Muchidimbu: haina kuedzwa. Kusaziva mufaro. Uye handifungi kuti ndiye ega muBangkok.
Hongu, icho ichokwadi chaunotaura, isu takanga tiri kuThailand, Zvita Jan Feb Mar uye takanga takarongedzerwa kuVietnam Feb 4 uye muna Ndira takagamuchira email kubva kuhotera muVietnam kuti dai taive maChinese taisabvumidzwa. pinda.Zvikoro zveVietnam zvakanga zvatovharwa zvichienzaniswa neThailand zvakakurumidza,kudzokera kuThailand hapana changa chaitwa asi pakanga pachine ndege kubva kuChina.
Sezvineiwo, handizive kana Thailand yakakurumidza uye yakarurama. Sekuona kwangu vaive vanyanyononoka kudzinga mhomho yemaChina. Kunze kweizvozvo, nzira yacho yakashanda zvakanaka pano. Zvingave kuti hutachiona pano neapo hwapotswa muhuwandu, asi handizvo kuti zvipatara pano zviri kufashukira nemhosva dzisingaverengeki dzekorona.
Kana ndikaenzanisa mamiriro ezvinhu pano neNetherlands, nzira yeNetherlands inoita seisina kunaka. Iyo RIVM yakaratidza kwenguva yakareba kuti pakanga pasina njodzi. Ndinonzwisisa kuti mamiriro acho akanga asina kujeka pakutanga, asi zvino ndoti: kana usina chokwadi, usapfuura. Saka vaifanirwa kunge vakati 'hatizive, zvingave zvakanaka kana zvakaipa, zvingave huchenjeri kuramba uri kure, kupfeka masiki kumeso uye kugeza maoko kwazvo'.
Zvakare kunonoka muNetherlands, zvirambidzo zvekufamba zveChinese, maItaliya, nezvimwe. Hapana masks ekumeso.
Ndinoziva kuti vanhu vazhinji muNetherlands vanofunga kuti tembiricha yekutarisa uye masks echiso hazvina musoro. Ini zvakare ndine chokwadi chekuti haisi 100% inoshanda. Asi izvozvo zvinokoshawo zvachose. Kunyangwe dai yaingova 50%, yaizoramba ichityora cheni yekutapurirana, zvakangofanana nekuchengeta chinhambwe chako.
Pazasi: Ndinofunga Thailand yakazvibata zvine mutsindo, asi nzira muNetherlands yanga iri, uye ichiri, yakaoma. Ndicho chikonzero Thailand inongoerekana yaita seyakanaka.
Mamwe mashoko? Kwete, handifungi kudaro. Musiyano mukuru uripo pakati peThailand neNetherlands ndewekutanga kupfeka masiki kumeso, zvinoreva kuti kupararira kushoma. Uyezve, muThailand maive neanonzi "super spreader zviitiko" zvishomanana semitambo munhandare dzakavharwa, carnivals, masevhisi emachechi, uko kune mhere mhere nekuimba munzvimbo dzisina mhepo.
Izvo zvinoramba zvichishamisa kana iwe uchifunga kuti mhedzisiro yemask kumeso kune gakava, uye muThailand matare ezvekudya anozarisa kakawanda pazuva nevanhu vachidya vari padyo. Vanomirawo padhuze vakamirira kuraira kwavo vofamba vakadungamidzana vakananga kutafura. Chikafu chemumugwagwa chinofarirwawo, zvifambiso zveveruzhinji zvinowanzofashukira nevanhu, mhedzisiro yekubuda kwevanhu vakawanda kubva kuBangkok yaive shoma, mumazuva achangopfuura kwaive nemhomho yevanhu vakaungana vakamirira kunzvimbo dzekukumbira rubatsiro nenzvimbo dzekugovera chikafu, zvese izvi zvinogoneka. kana nzvimbo dziri panjodzi yekupararira kukuru dzakaonekwa. Chikonzero chega chandinogona kufunga nezvacho ndechekuti Thailand "yakakanganiswa" nemusiyano wakapfava weCorona uye huwandu hwekusvibiswa hwakaramba hushoma. Izvo zvinopindirana nemufananidzo wedunhu rose pamwe neMyanmar, Laos, Cambodia neVietnam. Nyika dzese idzi dzakakanganiswa zvishoma / zvine mwero nekusvibiswa. Ngatimbotii Thailand yanga ichinyatsoteerera ku/kuteerera kuChina. Smart!
Kwete Thailand chete, asi nyika zhinji muAsia, dzine yakaderera curve uye hutachiona hushoma kupfuura Europe neUSA.
Kwatinogara kwaIsaan hapana wandinoziva ane chirwere
Pandinoona makumi mana neshanu vakafa muUS unogona kushamisika kuti sei hutachiona hwakaputika.
Trump inopomera China uye gare gare Europe,
Ndivo vakanaka kwazvo munyika, vanozvikudza vezvematongerwo enyika!
Ikozvino kune yambiro yekubuda kwechipiri munguva yechando, saka tinogona kushandura zvinhu uye kupa mhosva US, ikozvino ivo vari kuvhura vhudzi, masaja salon, pedicure zvitoro, nezvimwe. vanogona sei kuchengetedza kure munzanga?
Nekudaro, sedzimwe nyika zhinji idzo Thailand iri kutsvaga yekudzivirira,
Nekudaro, vaccine yekorona ichiri nemwedzi yakawanda isati yasvika
Kwaziwai
Moderator: Ndokumbira ungopindura mubvunzo wemuverengi.
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Zvechokwadi pane zvinhu zvinoshamisa zviri kuitika kana ukatarisa kusiyana kwenyika. Chimwe chakanyanya kukosha ndechekuti hadzisi nyika dzese dzinoedza nenzira imwechete (uye kunyangwe nekuchinja kwehutongi hwekuyedza nekufamba kwenguva), hainyore (kutapukira, kufa) nenzira imwechete, kuitira kuti kuenzanisa kupi zvako pakati penyika hakuna maturo uye. zvinotungamirira kumhedziso dzisina kururama. Mune mamwe mazwi: iwe unogona kutsanangura iyo data nenzira yekuti iwe unogara wakarurama. (sezvinoitika nemaski kumeso)
Munyika dzese huwandu hwehutachiona hunogona kunge hwakakwira kupfuura huwandu hwepamutemo nekuda kwekuti vanhu vanoverengeka vane hutachiona asi vasinganyatso tamburi nazvo.
Tsananguro dzebudiriro MUKATI menyika imwe chete inowira mumhando nhatu:
- maitiro e (kupararira) kwehutachiona. (semuenzaniso chii chinoitika munzvimbo dzinopisa, hunyoro hwepamusoro?)
- hunhu hwevagari venzvimbo (kuchembera, zvirwere, kusadzivirirwa, hunhu hwakadai sekushanyira machechi, dzimba dzisina air conditioning uye dzisina mahwindo, nezvimwewo)
- hunhu hwebazi rekurapa uye matanho akatorwa (nhamba yemibhedha yeICU, kukiya pasi, nguva yekudzoka kumba, masks ekumeso).
Ini ndinofunga iyo nyaya yekushanda kwemask kumeso muThailand uye kuyera tembiricha panhandare yendege haina musoro. Hutachiona hwekutanga muThailand hwaive muna Ndira 13 uye vamwe vashoma vakatevera kusvika pakabuda pakati paKurume (Thais achidzoka kubva kunze kwenyika uye mutambo wetsiva muBangkok). Ini ndinoshandisa zvifambiso zvevoruzhinji muBangkok mazuva ese uye kusvika pakati paKurume (hutachiona hwanga hwatovapo kwemwedzi miviri, asi pasina kubuda chaiko) Ndakaona isingasviki gumi muzana yeThais vakapfeka masiki. Izvo zvakaenda ku2% kubva munaKurume. Zvekuti izvi zvaderedza kupararira kweutachiona hazvina musoro nekuti hapana akapfeka. Vanhu vakatanga kupfeka zvivharo zvakanyanya apo kubuda kwacho kwakaitika !!!
Kuwedzera hakusati kuri chiratidzo chekuti une Corona uye kuyerwa kwekushisa hakuna kuitwa zvakarongeka panhandare yendege, asi chete pandege yakabva kuChina. Senge pasina maChinese anogona kupinda munyika nenyika uye neimwe nzvimbo senge Singapore.
"Ini ndinofunga nyaya yekushanda kwemaski kumeso muThailand uye kuyera tembiricha panhandare yendege haina musoro."
Chirevo chinoshamisa parizvino chekuti kunyangwe WHO yakabvuma kuti kupfeka mamask kumeso kunoderedza kupararira kwehutachiona uye kuti kuvapfeka kwave kusungirwa munyika zhinji, kusanganisira yese yeGermany. Teerera kuDT zvishoma.
Kana iwe ukagadzirisa, ita shuwa kuti wazviita nemazvo. (99 muzana yemasks echiso anoshandiswa muThailand haapi dziviriro kubva kuCovid nekuti haavhare zvakanaka pamuromo nemhino. Izvi ndizvo zvakare zvinotaurwa neWHO neRIVM yedu pachedu: mask yechiso isingasangane neyakaomarara. zvinodikanwa zvekudzivirira hutachiona zvinopa njodzi yakawedzera yekutapukirwa nekuti vanhu vanozorerekera kufuratira mamwe ese matanho (1,5 metres) chinhambwe nekuti unenge uchiri kupfeka mask kumeso.
Pamusoro pezvo, vazhinji veThais vanopfeka mask yechiso kunyanya kurwisa smog (kusvibiswa kwemhepo) mumaguta makuru. Nekudaro, hutachiona hudiki zvakanyanya uye saka hunogona kupfuura nyore kuburikidza neaya akajairwa masiki kumeso.
Chekupedzisira, nzvimbo dzinopinda hutachiona mumuviri hadzingogumiri pamhuno nemuromo chete asiwo nemaziso, saka munhu wese anofanira kunyatso pfeka mask kumeso kuti anyatsodzivirirwa kubva kuhutachiona.
Ichokwadi kuti maski kumeso haakudzivirire. Masks ekumeso, anogona kugadzirwa kumba, anove nechokwadi chekuti haugone kutapurira vamwe kana uchihotsira kana kukosora. Iwe wobva wakosora kana kuhotsira mune yako kumeso mask uye madonhwe ane hutachiona hunogona haaende kure.
Imwe nguva zvakare. Kubva muna Ndira 1 (yekutanga kuyerwa hutachiona hweCorona muThailand) kusvika pakati paKurume, HAPANA MUNHU aipfeka mask uye huwandu hwehutachiona hwakanyanya kuwedzera muMWEDZI MIRI. Kubva munaKurume 13 (denda), vanhu vazhinji vakatanga kupfeka masiki (asi kwete huwandu hwese). Zvichienderana nenhamba chete, yakasanganiswa nenguva, unogona kupokana kuti huwandu hwehutachiona hunowedzera sezvo vanhu vazhinji vanopfeka masiki. Asi izvo hazvina musoro sekutaura kuti kune hutachiona hushoma muThailand nekuti MUNHU wese anopfeka mask kubva pakutanga.
Izvo hazvichinje kufunga kwako, asi nenzvimbo dzeChina resp. Europe wakanganwa mazero matatu.
Mukuona kwangu inewo chekuita nemamiriro ekunze.
Hauna chando chaizvo pano uye furuu inenge isipo pano.
Takave neakapoteredza 40 madhigirii muno muIsaan kwemavhiki mashoma apfuura.
Kudziya kwakanyanya kune hutachiona hwefuruu, ndinofunga.
Kufa kamwe chete mumazuva matatu apfuura (vanodaro),
asi neimwe nzira ndinogona kuzvitenda izvi.
Mumusha muno hamuna kana munhu watinozivawo.
ndiani akawana hutachiona.
Asi kana muno muraini vanofamba nemasiki.
Uye vanhu mumaguta makuru vaive vagara vachifarira Corona
masks anoshandiswa nekuda kwekunhuhwirira kwakasviba.
Zvichida izvozvo zvakabatsirawo kuderedza kupararira kweutachiona.
Ivo havasi vasina hanya pano zvakare (kunze kwemutraffic).
kubata mapato eCorona sekune dzimwe (Netherlands) nyika.
Chero zvazvingava, handina kunetseka.
Indonesia ine mamiriro ekunze akafanana neThailand uye haudi kuvepo nekuda kwehuwandu hwehutachiona.
Izvo zvinongori pasi pe8000 munzvimbo ingangoita saizi yeEurope kune imwe nzvimbo mhiri kweUrals.
Kune nzvimbo dzakati wandei muIndonesia, senge Thailand, isina kana hutachiona. Ndaizongogara kure neJakarta.
Wadiwa Lieke,
Sekuona kwangu, Thailand haisati yawana chero rumwe ruzivo, asi huwandu hwevakabatwa uye vanorwara huri kukanganiswa.
Sezvakangoitawo kuChina, uko kwakatadziswawo huwandu hwevanhu vakabatwa nechirwere ichi, vatori venhau vemuno vakamhan’ara nyaya iyi vakadzingwa kana kutsakatika.
Izvo Thailand neChina zvinogovana mudambudziko iri ndezvekuti vagari havana chekutaura nekuti mauto kana bato remakomunisti riri kutonga.
Kuita kuti nyaya refu ive pfupi, disinformation
Marco, muzvipatara mune varwere vaunofunga kuti havaverengeki? Unogona kudoma zvipatara zvishoma zvakazara.
chimiro chakanaka chinoratidza kuwanda kwehutachiona maererano nemamiriro ekunze.
https://www.maurice.nl/2020/03/27/de-invloed-van-luchtvochtigheid-op-de-verspreiding-van-het-covid-19-virus/
Zvichida hapana mhedziso inogona kuitwa, asi inoshamisa. Chikonzero cheizvi hachisati chanyatsotsanangurwa.
Zvinoita sekuti mamiriro ekunze ane pesvedzero inokosha zvikuru.
Hutachiona hunowanda uye huchipararira zvishoma pane tembiricha yepamusoro
pakunyorova kwepamusoro (kunopisa!).
Furuwenza inouyawo kwatiri munguva yechando.
Uyezve, zuva raizowedzera huwandu hwevhitamini D mumuviri wako, iyo ...
zvaizobatsira immune system.
Haisi chokwadi kuti Beijing, Shanghai neHubei chete ndivo vaive pakuvhara. Chandinoziva kubva kushamwari dzangu dzeChinese kuChina ndechekuti inenge yese yeChina yaive yakavharika, kudzika kumisha midiki. Shamwari yangu yaishanyira mhuri mumusha mudiki uri kunze kweChengdu mudunhu reSichuan asi ichigara kuDali mudunhu reYunnan yaitambira runhare zuva rega rega kubva kumapazi ehurumende uye aiongororwa mafambiro ake uye matauriro aaiita ari mumusha wevabereki vake. Izvozvo zvakatora mavhiki manomwe.
Kudziya kwemamiriro ekunze, saka kutapuriranwa kwehutachiona kushoma
Ndakaona chirongwa chinonakidza paTV svondo rapfuura.
Nyanzvi dzakaratidza kuti makuru makuru e corona kubuda ari pa bandwidth yakafanana neHuwan.
Nematembiricha akafanana 5 kusvika 15 degrees C uye hunyoro hwakaderera.
Chinhu chekufunga nezvazvo.
Ed
Tsananguro dzakawanda dzinogoneka.
Chekutanga ndechekuti kufa kweCorona kwakawanda hakuna kumbonyoreswa sekufa kweCorona, asi kunyoreswa senge, semuenzaniso, hutachiona hwemapapu.
Chechipiri ndechokuti utachiona hahuna kurarama zvakanaka nemamiriro okunze anopisa.
Yechitatu, iyo huwandu hweThai nehuwandu hweAsia huzhinji hune immune system inoshanda zvakati siyanei kupfuura huwandu hweEurope.
Kutaridzika kwevaAsia kunosiyana kubva kuEurope - uye Vatema - saka nei immune system ichifanira kufanana?
Uyezve, iyo Coronavirus haina kumuka kubva pasina, asi shanduko yehutachiona hwagara huripo.
Saka ine hama dzehama dzakawanda, dzinewo mamwe macousin anoita seCoronavirus, asi asina kufanana.
Zvinogoneka kuti vamwe vevazukuru ivavo nevazukuru vanozivikanwa kune immune system yehuwandu hweThai uye immune system saka inopokana neCoronavirus.
Avhareji yekurarama hupenyu muThailand ichiri makore gumi mapfupi pane muNetherlands. Haitauri zvese, asi inotaura zvakawanda nezvekusiyana kwe immune system.
Masoja ekudzivirira zvirwere haafanire kuve ari nani kana kuipa, asi anogona kuve nezvakakosha zvakasiyana.
Imwe yacho inoshingirira kuhutachiwana uye imwe yacho inokunda mabhakitiriya.
Icho chikamu chezvakasikwa.
Kana masoja edziviriro edziviriro akaita zvimwe chetezvo, chirwere chimwechete chakachinjika chinogona kutsvaira ruzhinji rwese kana immune system isingakwanisi kubata hutachiona uhu.
Handifungi kuti immune system ine chekuita nekurarama kwenguva yakareba, asi kuti hupenyu hune chekuita nekurapwa kushoma. (pamwe nenhamba huru yetsaona)
Dai ndakaberekerwa muThailand, ndingadai ndisina kurarama pauduku hwangu.
Iye zvino ndichiri pano.
Uye kunyangwe paine yakawedzera hutano network, mhando yekutarisira haina kunaka kudaro.
Ruzivo rwezvokurapa rwavanachiremba vakawanda ishoma.
Zvakare, kune vakajairwa (varombo) veThai, mishonga yakawanda yakanaka yemazuva ano inogona kuvaita zviri nani haingowanikwi.
Kwete, Chris, tarisiro yehupenyu ndeyotevera (2018 manhamba)
Netherlands murume 80 - mukadzi 83
Thailand murume 73 —— mukadzi 81
Saka kwete mutsauko wemakore gumi, asi we10 (murume) uye 7 (mukadzi).
Misiyano yemakore ekurarama (kubva pakuzvarwa sezviri munhamba idzi) inonyanya kuve nechekuita nemagariro nehupfumi uye zvisingaite nemasoja emuviri. Mwero wekufa kwevacheche une basa gurusa. Tariro yehupenyu, toti kubva pazera remakore makumi maviri, yakatonyanya kufanana.
Chingangove chiri kuitika ndechekuti vanhu muThailand havadi kupihwa muchipatara kana vasina inishuwarenzi. Izvi zvinoratidzika kunge zviri kuitika muUS.
Ini ndinofunga mune zvakajairika zvinogona kutaurwa nezve maAsia kuti ivo vanowanzo famba nemasiki kumeso. Sekuona kwangu, iwo ma caps haabatsire kurwisa Covid 19 uye zvakare kwete kurwisa utsi hwemadhorobha. Zvingave zvakanyanya chiyero chekuti munhu anotya sei kufa nehutachiona.
Uchapupu hwekusiyana kwetsika ndeyekuti muThailand havana hanya zvishoma nezvehuwandu hwekufa kwemigwagwa, iyo yakanyanya kukwirira kana ichienzaniswa nedzimwe nyika. Musoro wako unotsemuka sei nekuverenga zvine musoro kana ukaona rori richimhanya richiyambuka Sukhumvit ine vanhu vakuru vatatu nevana vatatu muhunde. Hafu yeavo vafambi 'yakachengetedzwa' nemask kumeso, asi kwete nengowani.
Asi, sezvakangoita mumwe nemumwe wenyu, ndinoda kuuya kuThailand. Chero bedzi iwe usingapinde mudambudziko ipapo iwe pachako, yakanaka kwazvo, inonakidza uye inoshanda zvakasiyana.
Johan, iyo haisi nyaya. Hurumende inobhadhara kuchipatara nekuda kweCorona. Rakatsikiswa zvakanyanya pano. Saka hapana chikumbaridzo.
Wadiwa Lieke,
Zvine musoro kuti [kunyanya vanhu vari muboka renjodzi] vane hanya negwara nemigumisiro yaro
Utachiona hunokonzera covid-19.
Zvinondiita kuti ndipengereke pamusoro peavo vese vanozivikanwa vanoerekana vanzwisisa izvi uye vanopa maonero avo anowanzo kubva mukristaro bhora uye nekudaro vanodyara kuvhunduka kusingakoshi.
Nezuro kunyange Maurice de Hond, uyo anozivawo nezvazvo, injodzi munharaunda.
Ngatinamatei kune mavirologists uye vanhu vanoziva zvavari kutaura uye tisapengeswa nemafungiro ese asina maturo evanozviti vane mukurumbira.
Wese hutano hwakanaka uye funga nezvevamwe vanhu,
Ralph (boka renjodzi)
Ichokwadi kuti nhamba dzemuThailand dzinochengetwa dzakaderera nemaune.Ndinoda kungoenzanisa nhamba yevakafa gore rino muna Kurume naKubvumbi nehuwandu hwevakafa panguva imwe chete muna 2019. Ndinofunga tichazowana Ndakanga ndiri kuThailand kubva muna Ndira kusvika pakupera kwaKurume uye ndakaona pasina matanho panguva iyoyo.
Kana icho chiri chokwadi, ndapota ungataura kwakabva here? Chokwadi chinofanira kugona kuratidzwa kana kwete?
Ndinofunga kuti pane zvinhu zvakawanda:
a) Zvinoenderana netsvagiridzo yakaitwa naMaurice de Hond, pane hukama pakati pekorona nehunyoro (ona Google). Ndosaka paine matambudziko mashoma muSE Asia?
b) Kukosha kwemaski kumeso: https://twitter.com/i/status/1251336835105726466 musiyano kwete uye nemask
ona 2008 chiremba-epidemiologist Marianne van der Sande, [email protected], https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18612429, Masikirwo ehunyanzvi uye akagadzirwa kumba anoderedza kuratidzwa kwehutachiona hwekufema pakati pezvakawanda…
https://www.humo.be/nieuws/zelfs-een-theedoek-voor-je-mond-kan-echt-al-helpen~b9d9f871/
Muna 2008, RIVM chiremba-epidemiologist Marianne van der Sande akaratidza kuti ... kugeza mask yechiso senge tauro reti pamuromo pamakumi matanhatu madhigirii zvinotobatsira...
Aiwa, havazope 100% dziviriro, asi kwete daro remamita 1 1/2. Ne 25% mukana wakaderera wekutapukirwa, ndatova munhu anofara zvikuru. Chimbofunga: pachinzvimbo che 1 anorwara ane hutachiona, 3 ane hutano, kudzoka kune 1 anorwara ane hutachiona, 0,3 ane hutano, wobva wafunga imwe 1/4… Covid-19 angadai asina kunge akatonga.
c) MuChina + E + SE Asia vanhu vanokasira kupfeka masiki ekudzivirira kumeso. ditto kuyera tembiricha. Hazvizopa 100% vimbiso isina mvura, asi ... kana izvi zvichigadzirisa hafu yezvinetso ... kuputika kwedenda kuchava kwakawanda, zvishoma. (Kusindimara kweEurope)
d) kutya kutenga chimwe chinhu chinozoonekwa kuti hachifanirwe:
MuNetherlands yose, iyo Mascot Filter Syndrome zvakare yakapararira (inoziva zviri nani, inogona kuita zviri nani, inoita zviri nani). Watokanganwa furuwenza yeMexico yemakore gumi nerimwe apfuura, uko Netherlands yakanga yatenga akawanda ekudzivirira? Zvakazoitika kuti furuwenza "yaisazoitika". Semazuva ese, vese veClog Dancers vaiziva izvi - mukutarisa - zviri nani uye havana kukwanisa kunzwisisa kuti hurumende inopenga yakatenga akawanda ekudzivirira ampoules.
https://www.trouw.nl/nieuws/griepvaccin-blijft-misschien-ongebruikt~b36fae89/
Chikunguru 26, 2010 - Gurukota rezvehutano Ab Klink (CDA) vakatenga zvisizvo mamirioni makumi matatu nemana ekudzivirira furuwenza yeMexico gore rapfuura.
e) Isu takakanganisa chaizvo nekusavharira traffic yese kubva kuChina pakati paNdira, nekubata vanhu vari voga muNorthern Italy sejee (vaSlovenia TV vashandi mukati nekubuda, Feb 22, 19:30 PM paRTL nhau) muAustria, chete. senge muJAWS, inoona mari yevashanyi inonyanya kukosha, kubvumira mujaho weBergamo-Valencia kuti uenderere mberi nevataridzi zviuru makumi mana, kwete kumisa basa rechechi muMulhouse (40.000 p), kwete kurambidza Carnival uye kusamanikidza wese ski holidaymaker kupinda 2000 zuva rekuvharirwa. Iyo nguva kusvika pakati paKurume yakapambadzwa, Boris akafunga kuti zvese zvaive kuseka, uye Trump achiri kuita.
Uyezve, pwere dzakawanda dzichiri kuzviona sejee (kana ukasagara pamba nokuda kwangu, ndingasakwanisa kuponesa vanasekuru vako). Saka ICHES!
f) kuvharirwa muChina kwakanyatso kusimbiswa. Chokutanga pane zvose, vanhu vakawanda vakatovhara mumugwagwa wavo / nharaunda / musha kubva mumigwagwa mikuru, uye kuvhara ikoko kwakasimbiswa nechisimba. Pakupedzisira, nyika yeChinese yakamanikidza kuvharirwa kwakatenderedza Wuhan nepfuti. MuEurope nemimwe midziyo mumugwagwa (asi HAPANA chakavharwa pakati peDinxperlo (NL) neSuedewick (D), mapurisa akanaka uye pakupedzisira faindi.
g) Nhamba zhinji “dzinopepetwa” nekuyera uye kushuma zvakasiyana. Tarisai maBelgians ane... 107 vakafa muzvipatara, 170 mumisha inochengeterwa vakwegura uye 2 kumwewo. NL inongoshuma boka rekutanga. Izvo zvinoshandawo kana kwete kuedza. Ko kune dzimwe nyika..? ?
h) uye se "ruud musi waKubvumbi 22, 2020 na12:00" anotonyora kuti: Zvichida huwandu hwevanhu muSouth China neSE Asia vatove nehutachiona hwehutachiona. Apo Denda rakapararira muEurope, 1346-50, vanhu vakafa munhamba huru kwazvo munyika dzeRomance kupfuura muGermany. Uye muScandinavia… kashoma. Zvingave zvakare kuti ndosaka hutachiona huchipararira zvakanyanya zvinyoro kupfuura, semuenzaniso, pakati pemaIndia mushure mevaSpanish pamwe neMississippi kutenderera 1525 (90+% rufu). Izvi zvakasiyana nemaitiro ekudya, zuva rakawanda = vitamin D, uye ndiani anoziva zvimwe.
UV radiation, yakakwira, nzira yakanaka kumiganhu uye locomotives, zvifambiso zvakavharwa, kurambidza kuungana nemapati. Vanofungidzirwa kuti vane hutachiona mu14 carantine zvakare vanhu vafamba kubva mudunhu kuenda kudunhu, Hazvigone kuve nani, ndosaka iriwo mapurisa emauto kana zvasvika pazviri. Asi zvinoramba zvakanaka pano chero iwe uchinamatira kumitemo. Ipapo iwe une rusununguko rwakanyanya kusvuura zvishoma.
Chandisati ndanzwisisa ndechekuti panosvika Ndira 16, panguva yekubuda kwehutachiona, China pachayo yakanga isiri yekutanga kuvhara miganhu yayo.
Chandakaona panhau ndechekuti mhomho yevanhu vakaungana sechisvosve panhandare zhinji dzendege muChina vachienda kumhuri, nezvimwewo nekuda kweChinese New Year.
Thailand zvakare haina kuvhara miganhu yayo, zviuru zveChinese zvakauya pano kuzopemberera Chinese New Year.
Aive Donald Trump aive wekutanga kuvhara miganhu yeUS kune traffic yaibva kuChina uye gare gare dzimwe nyika dzine njodzi.
Icho chokwadi chekuti Thailand yakave nekufa kushoma uye kutapukirwa kusvika parizvino inyaya yerombo pane yehutungamiriri hunofunga uye hunoshanda.
Jan Beute.
Ndichiverenga mhinduro dzese, handigone kuita asi kugumisa kuti Thailand yanga yakasununguka kubva mukusvibiswa kwakakomba kweCorona nekuda kwenzvimbo yayo. Thailand ine izvi zvakafanana nenyika dzayo dzakavakidzana. Ko Tropic yeCancer ingadai yakaumba rudzi rwakati rwemhinganidzo here? https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kreeftskeerkring
India, ine huwandu hwevanhu vangangoita bhiriyoni 1,3, yakavewo nehuwandu husingakoshesi hwehutachiona kusvika pari zvino. Pakistan neBangladesh zvakare hazvioneke muCorona yepamusoro makumi mashanu.
Mhedziso yechipiri kubva mumhinduro ndeyokuti hazvigone kutaurwa kuti hurumende yeThailand yakashanda zvishoma nezvishoma, kunonoka uye/kana kuregeredza nekuti hapana nyaya dzakakomba dzakaitika. Akapindura nekuti vezvenhau vakashuma chiitiko chazvino icho chaifanira kuitwa mumaziso evanhu nenyika.
Uye chechitatu, kuti matambudziko aripo akatarisana nevagari veThai haana kumuka nekuda kweCorona, asi nekuda kwekusakwana kana kusaita kwemagariro nehupfumi. Asi iyo yekupedzisira haina kungochengeterwa nguva dzekutambudzika. Zviri uye zvinoramba zvakajairika.
Ini pachangu handitendi kana izwi revanhu vepamutemo kubva kuhurumende yeThai. Pasati pave nenhamba dzekuti vangani vanhu vakaedzwa chaizvo, uye isu tinogona kumirira kwenguva yakareba kuti tifananidze pakati pehuwandu hwekufa hunotarisirwa uye huwandu chaihwo hwevakafa.
Kana iwe ukatarisa iyo Covid 19 World mepu, maererano nekupora iwe uchaona: iyo Netherlands pa0.7%, Germany 67%, Thailand 83% uye China pa94%.
Kubva pane idzi nhamba unogona kugumisa kuti nyika yakavakidzana Germany yakagamuchirawo ruzivo kubva kuChina, nepo Netherlands haina.
Ndinofunga kuti hurumende yeNL inofanira kutora nyaya mumawoko ayo.
Zvinoshamisa kuti, iyo RIVM haiyere huwandu hwevarwere vakaporeswa Covid-19. Saka zvinoramba zviri zvekufungidzira… uye kuenderera mberi kwekutya….