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Home » Mubvunzo wemuverengi » Mubvunzo wemuverengi: Pane basa remusikana wangu weThai muNetherlands?
Vadiwa vaverengi,
Ndine mubvunzo nezvemusikana wangu wekuThai uyo ari kutomuchengeta akabatikana.
Anoda kutanga nekukurumidza mushure mekupedza Dutch yekubatanidza kosi uye pakusvika muHolland. Asi vese vanoda izvozvo 🙂
Ingoziva kuti unogona kumunyoresa kukanzuru kana wasvika.Achagamuchira nhamba yeBSN:.
Mutauro wechiDutch chete hauzove wakakwana panguva iyoyo. Chirungu chake chakanaka.
Zvino mubvunzo wangu ndewekuti kune masangano emabasa ari kumusha here kana kuti anonzwisisa izvi? Uye zvichibva kuPoland, zvinenge zvisingadzivisiki kuti hapana zvingasarudzwa zveizvi. Zvisinei, ini handisati ndaenda kubazi remabasa ini.
Kana kuti ndinogona kungopinda mune chero sangano remabasa?
Ini handina ruzivo nemasangano emabasa zvachose.
Saka tinoda kugovera matipi ako kana zviitiko newe.
Chishuvo chake chekutanga ndechekushanda muresitorendi. Iye chete ndiye anonyatsoziva kuti iwe unofanirwa kudzidzira izvi? Uye kuchenesa ndicho chido chako chechipiri.
Ndapota ipa mhinduro yako
Kwazisai,
GeertJan
Hi Geertjan,
Izvo zvakakosha kana iwe ukataura mune chikamu chipi kana guta raunogara muNetherlands, nekuti imwe chikamu cheNetherlands chine mikana yebasa yakawanda kupfuura imwe.
Shamwari dzedu dzakasiyana-siyana dzeThai, kusanganisira vashoma vasingatauri Dutch zvakanaka, vanoshandawo kuburikidza nemasangano emabasa, sepanzvimbo yemaruva muWestland, kana pamusika wemuriwo muBarendrecht neMaasland, shamwari yako inotaura Chirungu saka hazvifanirwe kudaro. dambudziko zvachose. uye masangano evashandi ane ruzivo rwakawanda mune izvi.
Ehe iwe unogona kungofamba mune chero agency yebasa, kunyangwe iwe uchida, nekuti wese mushandi wenguva pfupi wavanogona kutumira ndiko kwaanoita.
Kwaziwai uye Muve nerombo rakanaka kuwana basa.
Kana musikana wako weThai achitaura Chirungu chakanaka, rega apinde mubazi revashandi pachake (!). Inomira zvakanyanya yakazvimirira; kutsigira hakuzokosheswi nesangano revashandi, mushure mezvose, semutauri weChirungu, ari kunyorera basa kumakambani epasi rese, pakati pevamwe.
Wadiwa Soi,
Ini handifunge kuti iri kutsigira zvachose, uye ndine chokwadi chekuti kambani yevashandi venguva pfupi ichafunga nenzira imwecheteyo.Ndine chokwadi nezana kubva muzana nekuti ndakamboshanda zvakanyanya nemasangano evashandi venguva pfupi yapfuura, uye nekuda kwechinzvimbo chandiinacho, ini pachangu ndinopinza vashandi venguva pfupi, uye gare gare vakandibatsirawo kuwana basa rechigarire.
Hapana chakaipa kuti murume uyu aunganidze ruzivo rwemusikana wake achibvunza kuti ndedzipi sarudzo.
Haasi munhu wese akazvimirira zvakaenzana uye akachenjera enyika, idanho chairo kana iwe uchida kugara nekushanda kune imwe nyika.
Isu tose tinogona kunge tichiyeuka zuva redu rokutanga kuchikoro, zvishoma zvandinoita, uye ndinoyeuka kuti ndakanga ndine manzwiro akaipa chaizvo panguva iyoyo, ndinofunga kuti mukadzi uyu anouya kuNetherlands ane manzwiro akafanana uye anotanga kukumbira basa.
Mudzimai uyu anoratidza kuti anoda kushanda, zvinova zvandiri kukoshesa zvikuru, asi hapana kwandinoverenga kuti anoda kushanda kune imwe kambani yepasi rese semutauri wechirungu.
Zvakakosha kuti anyorese nesangano rinozivikanwa revashandi, rakadai seManpower, Randstad, Tempo team, kwaaine kodzero nezvisungo uye nemuhoro wakaringana, saka kwete neanotevera-iyo-chokwadi yebasa agency neaya mabhuru anokupa mombe. nenyanga dzendarama, pikira, asi usazozviita pashure.
Pane basa zvechokwadi kana uchida kushanda! Kana akasanyanya kusarudza anozowana basa. Paanotanga kushanda mukugadzira, hazvina basa zvachose kuti haatauri chiDutch. Udza shamwari dzako nevanoziva kuti musikana wako arikutsvaga basa, chaunoda 'bhiriji'.
Mudzimai wangu akanga agara muNetherlands kwemwedzi isingasviki mitanhatu paakapiwa basa pakambani yandinoshanda. Taida vanhu uye wandaishandira akati ngatimupe mukana. Akanga asingatauri Dutch zvachose panguva iyoyo.
Iye zvino ane basa rechigarire! Iwe unofanirwawo kuve nerombo rakanaka ... Rombo rakanaka!
Kwazisai,
Bangkokian
Basa rekugadzira, kuchenesa, ... Basa rakawanda!
Mudzimai wangu akatanga kushanda mushure memwedzi miviri.
Iye zvino kunyange ane chibvumirano chekusingaperi.
Asi usafunge kuti anogona kuwana basa repamusoro ipapo ipapo.
Anogona kufunga zvakasiyana nezvazvo pachake! 😉
Zvakaoma hazvo, panenge pasina basa revanhu vanotaura chiDutch.
Chii chiri mukaha pamusika pakushanda semuturikiri... (Hapana kana muturikiri mumwe akanaka wechiThai pano!) Asi ipapo achafanira kugona mutauro wechiDutch.
Nguva dzakati shandukei, asi mudzimai wangu, uyo aisataura chiDutch, akatanga kushanda mavhiki e9 asvika kuBelgium. Hazvaigona kuitwa nekukurumidza, nekuti aida gwaro rekushanda.
Akashanda kwenguva pfupi pakambani imwe chete iyoyo kwemakore maviri nehafu asati awana kondirakiti yechigarire. Akatanga ikoko muna Chivabvu 1990 semushandi wenguva pfupi uye akashandirwa ipapo zvachose kubva 1993. Nemushandirwi mumwe chete. Musi waNdira 1, achange ashanda kwemakore 21. Nerombo ripi zvaro, anogona kuenderera mberi achishanda ikoko kusvika iye (yekutanga) pamudyandigere.
BTW, kuPhilippines akanga achangopedza makore gumi ebasa mukambani imwe chete asati aenda kuBelgium.
Moral: zvinogoneka.
Ita shuwa kuti haagumire munzvimbo inotonhora kana yakaoma yekushanda. Muna 1990 mudzimai wangu akapiwa basa mukambani inogadzira miriwo yakaomeswa nechando. Ndakamutsiura pamusoro peizvi.
Anecdote: dzimwe nguva vashandi vake vaviri vevadzidzi vanopihwa kushanda pamushini mumwe chete. Dzimwe nguva mushandi wechikoro anobvunza pakutanga kwebasa kana achizobudirira nemasetin'i emuchina. Mukadzi wangu anobva angoti achaita zvese zvaanogona. Pashure pemaawa mashomanana, mushandi wechikoro anogumisa kuti mudzimai wangu ane simba rose pamushini. Ipapo mubvunzo unowanzouya: "Wanga uchishanda pano kwechinguva?" Mudzimai wangu paanotaura nenzira yake yekuzvininipisa kuti ashanda ikoko kwemakore makumi maviri, mushandi wechikoro ari kusatenda. Vadzidzi vanoshanda vanodzoka vanofarira kushanda pamwe chete newavakaroorana naye. Vanoziva kuti vanofanira kushanda nesimba, asi kuti pane nguva yejee nehurukuro.
Moderator: uri kutaura. Ndokumbira upindure mubvunzo wemuverengi chete.
way
Hatisi muna 1990 apo pakanga paine basa rakawanda muno, zvino tine 800.000 XNUMX vasingashandi.
Hanzvadzi yangu yeThai yave pamba kwemakore 1.1/2, aishanda mukuchengeta vana.Nekuda kwekusaziva kwake chiDutch, ndiye akatanga kudzingwa uye haachakwanisa kuwana basa.
Inogona chete kushanda maawa mashoma pasvondo semukadzi wekuchenesa.
Saka usazvikanganwe, usamire mukana mumakore anotevera
Moderator: Ndapota, mhinduro dzakakomba chete.
Ane ruzivo here muindasitiri yezvekudya? Ipapo kune basa rakawanda nokuda kwake.
Hi Geertjan, kana mudzimai wako apedza kubatanidzwa muThailand, anofanira kuita kumwe kubatanidzwa muNetherlands, zvinotora gore, unofanira kuzvibhadharira iwe pachako, zvinodhura, kadhi rekuzivikanwa rakapera kubva kuIND rinodhura 300 euros mushure megore. , kadhi idzva 800 euros, anogona kushandisa pakati pebasa uye chikoro, kwaziso Harrie
Paanouya kuNetherlands, handifunge kuti achakurumidza kugamuchira nhamba yeBSN.
Ini ndichakugamuchira chete kana wangove wekuzvarwa, kana uine mvumo yekushanda uye wonyorera nhamba yeBSN iwe pachako kubva kune zviremera zvemitero.
Kana kune basa zvinoenderana nenharaunda yaunogara.
Chirungu chake chakanaka here, kana kuti anotaura chiThanglish chine mukurumbira?
Mapango ane matatu mabhenefiti pamusoro pevanhu veThai:
Kazhinji vanhu vakati wandei vari kushanda panguva imwe chete, kana vasingazvinzwisise vanokwanisa kuzvikurukura.
Vazhinji vePoles vanotaura chiGerman. Dutch yakafanana neGerman. MaPole mazhinji anonzwisisa chiDutch kana ichidudzwa zvishoma nezvishoma.
Izvo zvinoshandiswa kune tembiricha, iyo inobatsira kana basa riri kunze.
Mashoko iwayo haana kururama. Mudzimai wangu akagamuchira BSN apo mapepa ose akanga akarongeka. Iwe haufanirwe kuve wakasarudzika kune izvi uye haufanirwe kuzvinyorera iwe pachako kubva kune zviremera zvemitero.
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Ndatenda nemhinduro!!!
Semhinduro pfupi
Kutsvagira musikana wangu weThai basa ipapo kuEindhoven
Ndinogara ndichida kubvunza nezve zvinhu,
izvo zvitsvawo kwandiri.
Musikana wangu wekuThai ari kutamirawo kune imwe nyika. Anodawo kushanda.
Farang tingtong ((thanks)
Uye Harry
Ini zvino ndave kuda kuziva nezvemitengo yekosi yekubatanidza iyi, saka ndakaendesa mubvunzo kune nyanzvi mune iyi ndima.
Musikana wangu wekuThai anoda kushanda uye ane
ndokumbirawo ruzivo.
Uye izvi zvitsva kwandiri zvakare.
Ndine basa rekugara ini.
Kana aine Residence Visa yegore rimwe neMVV, anogashira nhamba yeBSN (zvikasadaro hapana MVV vhiza)
Unogona kushanda nazvo (ingomirira kupasa)
Mabasa anopa anoenderana nenharaunda, asi chero bedzi asingatauri zvinonzwisisika Dutch zvakaoma (mudzimai wangu neshamwari dzake muenzaniso pano, vakadzidziswa mune zvedzidzo uye kutaura zvinonzwisisika Dutch pashure 3 kusvika 7 makore).
Iwe zvakare une dambudziko iro Nuffic anofanira kuongorora diploma / s. Izvi zvakare zvinoita kuti zvinhu zvive nyore kana izvi zvaitwa.
Shanda, semuenzaniso, semushandi wekamuri, mumiriri muresitorendi yeThai (mukadzi wangu neshamwari dzake dzese), basa rekugadzira (kurongedza, nezvimwewo) rinogoneka.
Parizvino, mabasa haasi kubatwa muNetherlands. Zvichienderana nekwaunogara, unogona zvakare kuzviedza muBelgium uye/kana Germany. Zvinoenderana nechinhambwe.
@ Rori: Pfupiso yakanaka chokwadi. Kubva musi waChikunguru 1, 2013, Netherlands yakabatanidza maitiro eTEV (Entry & Residence), zvinoreva kuti MVV (mvumo yekugara kwenguva pfupi, kana Schengen D yekupinda vhiza) neVVR (mvumo yekugara nguva dzose) inosanganiswa kuita imwe. nzira. VVR pass inofanira kunge yakagadzirira nguva pfupi yasvika. Iwe unofanirwawo kukwanisa kunyoresa kukanzuru mukati memazuva mashoma ekusvika (zvinotosungirwa), saka zvichienderana nekukasira kuri kuita hurongwa hwepamutemo, unogona kuita kuti mapepa ese nezvimwe zvipedzwe mukati memazuva mashoma kusvika mashoma. mavhiki. Kusanganisira, hongu, iyo BSN nhamba. Mvumo yekugara inoperawo nekukurumidza kubva pazuva rekusvika, saka unogona kutanga kushanda nekukurumidza.
Dambudziko rinoshanda nderokuwana basa, asi izvi zvinoenderana nemhando dzose dzezvinhu: dzidzo, ruzivo, ruzivo rwemutauro muChirungu kana chiDutch, nezvimwewo. Nharaunda yauri kushandisa, kuwanikwa kwebasa (unogona kutenderera ikoko? Netsoka? pasina kurema kwemuviri - pano patinogara muRandstad. Isu taiwanzoudzwa kana kuti zvakataurwa pachinzvimbo kuti vaitsvaga vanhu vaive nekuraira kwakanaka kwechiDutch, hongu zvakare muindasitiri yekuchenesa. Iyo A1 yekuwedzera nhanho, saka zvishoma kupfuura izvo zvaunoda kuti upedze bvunzo kuembassy, yakanga isina kukwana chero kupi zvako. Ndinofungidzira kuti Chirungu chake chiri paA2+ level, asi isu hatina kukwanisa kushanda nazvo. Masangano anopinza vanhu mabasa pano aisatombova nemabasa, ndoda vanhu vane mutauro uye vasina mapepa echiDutch. Asi munharaunda yako unogona kuona kuti vanogona kukubatsira, saka tarisa kutenderedza masangano emabasa muEindhoven. Musikana wangu akazotanga kuita basa rekuzvipira munharaunda, sechinovhiringidza uye chakanakira CV yake nekuti haudi kuve nekushaikwa kukuru paCV yako. Mwedzi mishomanana gare gare takawana basa muindasitiri yokuchenesa. Kwataisatarisa kwaive kumaresitorendi eThai nekuti ndipo chete nzvimbo yaisanyatsoda kushanda nemusikana wangu.
Hongu, zvakare tora kubatanidzwa uchifunga, iwe unofanirwa kuzviita wega, hurumende inongoda kuti mutorwa apase bvunzo yekubatanidza (A3 level) kana iyo yepamusoro NT2 bvunzo yenyika (B2 uye B1 level Dutch zvichiteerana) mukati memakore matatu. Mushure mekusvika kuNetherlands, tanga waronga kupasa kweVVR, kunyoreswa mudhorobha uye mufananidzo wemapapu eTB. Yekupedzisira inogona kuitwa kuGGD, kazhinji mahara, asi mamwe maGGD anobhadharisa mari, saka zvingave zvakachipa kuenda kune imwe GGD. Uyewo tsvaga chimwe chinhu chekubatanidza kuburikidza http://www.inburgeren.nl . Kana iwe uchinge uchinge uchinge uchinge uchinge uchinge uchinge uchinge uchinge uchinge uchinge uchinge uchinge uchinge uchinge uchinge uchinge uchinge uchinge uchinge uchinge uchinge uchinge uchinge uchinge uchinge uchinge uchinge uchinge uchinge uchinge uchinge uchinge uchinge uchinge uchinge uchinge uchinge uchinge uchinge uchitora zvidzidzo zveDutch, iwe unogona zvakare kuona kuti izvi zvinopindirana sei nebasa. Zvechokwadi, zvakare kutora nguva mushure mokunge asvika kuti afare pamwe chete (zororo pfupi? Anoziva nzvimbo yacho here? Wakamboshanyira dzimwe nzvimbo muNetherlands?). Mushure memavhiki mashoma, kufinhwa kunotanga, saka kushamwaridzana nevanhu vechiDutch, Thai nevamwe vanhu (vatinoenda navo kuchikoro) chinhu chinokanganisa.
Kuti uwane rumwe ruzivo mushure mekusvika muNetherlands, ona zvakare inozivikanwa inozivikanwa Kunze Partner Foundation saiti. Ruzivo rwakawanda runobatsira nezve kutama uye mazororo kuNetherlands. Heino sub forum ine ruzivo rwezvekuita kana wasvika
http://www.buitenlandsepartner.nl/forumdisplay.php?12-Starterskit-Nieuw-in-Nederland
Ndinokushuvira iwe rombo rakanaka, ndinovimba zvinhu zvese zvinofamba zvakanaka uye anokurumidza kuwana niche yake nebasa, akanaka vaanodzidza navo uye mamwe masocial contacts, asi kana zvese zvikakanganisika iwe unenge uchitsvaga basa riri nyore kwemwedzi. Isu takambosangana nekushushikana, muThailand musikana wangu aive nebasa rakanaka renguva yakazara uye muhoro unonzwisisika uye bachelor's degree maererano neThai standards, akabva awira mugomba kwechinguva, kugara pamba kuchakupaza. mushure memavhiki mashoma.masvondo e“zororo”. Nekutsungirira iwe uchasvika ikoko uye kugadzirira kwakanaka ihafu yehondo! 🙂
@Rob
Ziva akawanda kana asiri ese emhinduro dzako.
Mudzimai wangu akapedza madhigirii maviri emasters. MuThailand ndiye aive mukadzi wacho. Vabereki vake havana kumumanikidza kushanda. Vaita zvakanaka. Mudzimai wangu aikwanisa kuita chero chaaida muThailand uye pakanga pasina kumanikidza kumashure. Vazhinji vevaaishanda navo vakashanda zvakajairika kubva na8.30:16.00 mangwanani kusvika XNUMX:XNUMX manheru uye vobva vawana mari yakawedzerwa nekupa zvidzidzo, nezvimwewo.
Kudai mudzimai wangu akanga asina kumira kunze kwegedhi rechikoro na16.01:XNUMX p.m., angadai akanonoka zvikuru.
Nyaya dzinoita basa muNetherlands ndeidzi: mutauro, dzidzo, kuongororwa kwemadiploma, nezvimwe.
Chaive uye chakanyanya kuomarara i "HOLE" iyo mumwe munhu anozopedzisira apinda muNetherlands. Pamusoro pekurasikirwa nemhuri, chikafu, kunhuhwirira kweThai, "chekare" shamwari dzeThai, rusununguko rwakati muThailand, Mamiriro ekunze, kukwanisa kutenga zvaunogona, mugadziri webvudzi, manicure, chitoro chezvipikiri, matekisi. chiyero chekutanga kubva ku40 baht, Robinson, Futurepark, nezvimwe.
Neraki, tine amai vasina murume semuvakidzani wezera ravo chaizvo uye muvakidzani weThai kumashure. Somunhu wechiDutch iwe unongosangana neiyo yekupedzisira. Ko kufamba nemapoto nekuravira zvaitwa.
oh mukuwedzera
Kazhinji, haufanirwe kutarisira zvakawanda kubva kumasangano evashandi venguva pfupi.
Tempo team neRandstad torai keke pano.
Musikana wangu akapedza basa rekubatanidza, asi ndichisvika ndakabva ndamuti aite basa rekuzvipira paprimary.
aipedza nguva yakawanda nevana uye migumisiro yacho inotaura yega.
Handifungi kuti anofanira kushanda, asi anofarira basa rokuzvipira zvokuti haaregi kuriita.
Kudai aizonyorera, izvi zvaizovawo chirevo chakanaka
chechipiri, chikoro chinofara zvikuru nerubatsiro rwake.
way
Ndinoona zvichinetsa uye zvisingaite.
Naturalized
Uyewo kosi yekubatanidza kwegore muNetherlands.
Mvumo yebasa
Inotaridzika kunge nyika yemombe dzemukaka
Teraki yangu inongoda kushanda. Uye kwete izvo zvinonetsa zvinhu.
Ini ndinonzwisisa kuti anofanirwa kubatanidza uye izvo
Zvichanaka.
Musikana wangu wekuThai, kubva pane zvakaitika kwandiri, akanaka kwazvo
Kudzidza Dutch.
Handichatombopokani nazvo.
Anoda kurwisa vanhu vazhinji vanobva kuHolland vasingatombodi izvozvo.
Uye mubvunzo wangu ndewekuti kana ukatarisa zvakakupoteredza
Zvichida vachiri vanhu vanobva kuEurope kana kumwewo
Izvo zvisati zvasimbiswa mushure memakore akawanda.
Bangkokker ndatenda nemhinduro yako.
Chishanu chino ndichashanyira IND kubva kumapoka ako ese uye ndichashanyira masangano emabasa aratidzwa pamusoro.
Netherlands zvakare inyika yakanaka kwazvo
Mitemo yakanyanyisa.
Ini ndinofunga kosi yekubatanidza muThailand inoruramiswa, asi izvo zvinodikanwa zvakanyanyisa.
Nekuti ndichiri kuona kuti kune vanhu muNetherlands vanobva kunze kwenyika havasati vagona mutauro mushure memakore.
Mutauro wechiDutch saka hausi mumwe wemitauro iri pane iyo rondedzero. Uye Chirungu mutauro wepasi rose
Nayo iwe unogona zvakare kuita kuti zvinhu zviitwe muNetherlands.
Nekudaro, maonero angu ndeekuti kana iwe uri muEurope iwe unogona kunge uchida kuti iwe ugone mutauro weChirungu sechinodikanwa chekubatanidza. kana iwe uchibva kuNetherlands kana imwe Nhengo yeNyika. Uyewo kubva kunze kweEurope
Mutauro wechiDutch hausi kuzosiiwa.
Uye mudiwa angamudzidzisa izvi here? Kana kutora kosi.
Amai aya maonero
Geert Jan
Nyaya yaRob V inopindirana uye ichave yakarurama nemaitiro anhasi.
Kubva mumhinduro dzenyu ndinofunga ndinoona kuti munobva mudunhu reEindhoven. (iyo iri muNorth Brabant uye kwete muHolland).
Zvakanaka, makorokoto, ndava kugara kuVeldhoven. Mukati morutivi rwokubatanidzwa, mudzimai wangu neni taigara muEindhoven. Iyi ndiyo inonyanya kubatsira munharaunda iyi...... kana kwete.
Usati waendesa mukadzi wako kuchikoro, ndinofunga tinofanira kusangana newe pachako uye kumumutsa.
Iwe haufanirwe kushanyira Randstad uye Tempo timu. Ndakuitira 10.
Nyoresa musikana wako, mudiwa, mukadzi kuburikidza nemasaiti avo uye gadzira chimiro.
Unozonzwawo izvi paunoshanyira imwe yeaya masangano Centrum, Woensel Shopping Center, Veldhoven. Geldrop, Best. Paunopinda imomo uchazviona. Mudzimai wangu neshamwari dzake vose vakasangana neizvi.
Muguta reEindhoven iwe uchafanirwa kuronga uye kubhadhara iyo Integration Course iwe pachako. Ah, iwe uchagamuchira bhurocha kubva kukanzuru ine 4 kana 5 kero kwaunogona kuzviita. Aya masangano anorairwa nekanzuru. (O hongu, kunze kwekubhadhara vadzidzi veMVV, kunewo "vapoteri" mumapoka ANOFANIRA kubva kumanisiparati).
Muchidimbu, ndinofunga kuti zvinoreva kuti boka iri rekupedzisira rinobhadharwa nevanhu vanotumira vamiriri vavo veMVV ikoko.
Hunhu hwemasangano mazhinji uye ayo anokurudzirwa nekanzuru akaderera. Zviri nani kutsvaga chimwe chinhu uri wega. Masangano anokurudzirwa nekanzuru anogona kuwanikwa pa http://www.eindhoven.nl/artikelen/Nederlands-leren.htm
Ndinofunga kuti STE yakanaka. Kugara muchivakwa chekare cheOmroep Brabant mumugwagwa wemhete muStratum. Asi zvakare zvinoenderana nekuti unogara kupi muEindhoven. Mudzimai wangu akaita zvidzidzo kumwe kunhu uye takashanyira zvikoro zvese kuti titange tanyoresa uye, mushure mekunge mudzimai wangu atanga kumwe, takazotsvaga imwe kero kakawanda nekuti aisafarira chikoro chaakapinda. (vakashanyira vese pane rondedzero).
Manomano apa ndeekuti mukwikwidzi anonyoresa mamodule akati wandei uye akati wandei ezvidzidzo. Vanoedza kupa mudzidzi 1 kusvika 4 modules. Mugroup remukadzi wangu ndakaona kuti mwana 1 aingobhadhara module imwe chete mumwe achibhadhara 1 uye maform ese pakati.
Izvi hazvinei nehunhu hwemudzidzi, asi nekungoita nenguva iyo mudzidzi akabatikana nayo.
Zvidzidzo zvacho zvinosanganisira: 1. Bhuku remifananidzo, 2. Nhamba yezvinyorwa (4 zvidimbu), 3. kushanda pakombiyuta. Ivo vanoedza kupfuudza izvi semamodule akaparadzana, asi chokwadi iri 1 kosi.
Nhungamiro yakanga iri shoma, iyo mudzimai wangu akagamuchira mangwanani maviri kubva pazvidzidzo zve2 kusvika ku9 muboka revanhu gumi nevaviri. Zvose pamwero wakasiyana. Mudzidzisi ane maminitsi gumi nemashanu pamudzidzi kubva pamaminitsi zana nemakumi masere.
Chokwadi chokuti mudzimai wangu neshamwari dzake vakabudirira hakusi nokuda kwekosi yacho asi kwaari amene. Iye mudzidzisi (mudzidzi) muThailand uye akazviita zvese kumba kuburikidza nekombuta. Zvinotosvika kure zvekuti mudzimai wangu akagamuchira ruzivo kubva kuThai kubva kuAlmere pamusoro pekuti zvinhu zvakanga zvichifamba sei muHilversum pasangano rimwe chete uye naizvozvo uye pamwe chete nevamwe akatanga boka rake rokudzidzisa muEindhoven.
Kana iwe usati wava nepekugara uye uri kutsvaga chimwe chinhu, edza Veldhoven nekuti pane sangano riripo rinoita kubatanidzwa (mune imwe nzira) ye1 Euro pachidzidzo (yekofi) kana kumba kwemukadzi vaviri. mapaketi ekiki kana chimwe chinhu pamwedzi.(Vadzidzi 4 vanokwana ka2 pasvondo).
Uyezve, maneja eEindhoven haana kupindira chero chinhu. Usave nechekuita nazvo kana. Takaendesa zvichemo zvakati wandei nezve institution pachedu, asi izvo hazvina zvazvakaita (kwete isu chete asiwo vamwe vagari veMVV).
Ndokumbira utarise masaiti kuti uwane mari. Sekuona kwangu, iwe zvino unofanirwa kubhadhara mari yacho yese iwe pachako. Sezvineiwo, takawana mutero (75%) kubva kuDUO mushure mekubudirira kupedzisa.
Oo hongu, ichi zvakare chimwe chinhu chakadai kana ukazviita kuburikidza nerimwe remasangano ataurwa, DUO inobhadhara kosi (kubhadhara kare). Mushure mezvo iwe uchaunzwa nebhiri uye iwe unogona kubhadhara zvishoma nezvishoma. Ndakafunga kuti kosi yemukadzi wangu yaive yakafanana ne3600 euros pamwe chete. (3 modules uye bvunzo, kubhadharwa zvakasiyana). Inenge 900 Euro inofanira kubhadharwa mumwedzi wega wega we26 Euro (makore matatu).
Pfupi resume. Kana uchida, ndinogona kukuzivisa iwe pachivande (e-mail kana foni). Unogona kutumira email kero yangu kune vapepeti
Zano: Ronga kosi yekubatanidza iwe pachako (zvakanyanya nekukurumidza) uye zvakachipa. Uyewo tarisa nzvimbo dzeDUO dzepurogiramu yebvunzo.
Basa: Kuburikidza nechikwata cheThai cheshamwari, mudzimai wangu neshamwari dzake 3 vane basa nemari. Mimwe mitumbi inoverenga mamwe mameseji.
Chekupedzisira, tsvaga paYouTube Holland maringe neNetherlands. Zvakanakawo kune mumwe wako.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eE_IUPInEuc
Iwe unodzidza, pakati pezvimwe zvinhu, Nyika yeNetherlands inoganhurana neNorth Sea, Belgium, Germany neFrance. MuNetherlands unogona kubhadhara zviri pamutemo neUS $ neEuro. Uye Netherlands ine matunhu gumi nematatu nematunhu matanhatu.
Hongu, uye Holland iri, pakati pedzimwe nzvimbo. muMontana.
Ndakangotarisa ma links evanoti ma provider. Chinondirova ndechekuti nevazhinji vacho hauwane chiratidzo chemutengo pa block kana chikamu chekosi.
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Ingoverenga kuti iwe unogona kusarudza kutora bvunzo nenzira yekare kusvika Zvita 31.
Pashure paizvozvo pachava neimwe gadziriro. SO sarudza nokukurumidza zvokuita
Mhoro 🙂
Ndatenda zvakare neruzivo rwatovepo
Handisi kufara nazvo.
Kubatanidza kosi ye +- 3600€ Kunyangwe kana kwete?
Pane zvishoma zvandinogona kuita pamusoro peidi rokuti bvunzo iri kugadziridzwa. Uye izvozvo zvaitozivikanwa neni. Asi izvi hazvisati zvanyatsojeka.
Anofanira kutanga apedza kosi yekubatanidza muBangkok.
Kuti zvinhu zvirikushata muNetherlands kubasa
Ichokwadi. Hungu, nguva dzakanga dziri nani muna 1990.
Usandifungira zvisizvo.
Ndaizoita chero chinhu nokuda kweSami yangu, asi hurumende inogona kunyanya kuwedzeredza nemitemo.
Ndinonzwisisa pfungwa yose yekubatanidza.
Amai, handizivi kuti zvinorevei kusvika zvino. Modules izvi uye modules izvo.
Nei uchifanira kudzidza zvisingaite mamodule
Kuwana basa muNetherlands/Eindhoven kwakakosha kwaari. Kosi yekubatanidza pachayo haisi dambudziko, izvi zvinouya zvoga.
Chandinongondinetsa manje ndechekuti tiwane basa tose kana nguva yakwana. Mune chero chimiro.
Ndinogona kutarisira kana akakwanisa kuuya mushure meHolland
nemvumo yekugara uye mushure mekunyoresa nekanzuru yangu yeEindhoven anogashira nhamba yeBSN.
Uye wobva wasvika kubasa kuburikidza nemvumo yebasa.
Ndichanyatsoverenga mhinduro kubva kune ino zvakare.
Ini zvirokwazvo ndiri munhu anoda kuve uye kuziviswa zvakanaka.
Saka mubvunzo wangu 🙂
Ndichashanyirawo IND svondo rino
Uye ndinokutendai zvikuru nekuda kwemhinduro dzese.
Geert Jan,
Hazvisati zvamboita nyore, asi unofanira kungozvirega zvichiitika. Kutanga, budirira kupedzisa bvunzo muBangkok uye wozotarisa mberi. Izvi zvinoshandawo kubasa, saka usatarisire zvakawandisa kubva kwairi munguva dzino dzedambudziko. Zvichida kuzvipira kutanga?
Mudzimai wangu akashandisa angangoita €4000 pakosi uye bvunzo. Ndinofanira kuwedzera kuti akapinda chikoro chakasimbiswa.
Bangkokian
Bangkokian
Mudzimai wangu neshamwari dzake vakapindawo chikoro chine zvitupa.
Takurukura nyaya yacho nemuzivikanwi wangu masikati ano.
Iwe unongofanirwa kuenda kune yakasimbiswa Institute kana iwe uchida kubhadhara kuburikidza neDUO.
Chakakosha ndechekuti bvunzo yapasa. Kuburikidza nezvidzidzo zvepachivande iwe uchashandisa 900 Euro uye iwe uchadzidza zvakawanda.
Iwe unogona zvakare kuenda kune yakasimbiswa Institute pasina kupindira kweDUO. Chikonzero chatakasarudza ichi ndechekuti taingoda chikoro chakanaka. Takabhadhara zvese kubva muhomwe yedu, saka pasina chikwereti uye kupindira kubva kuDUO. Akave zvakare nezvidzidzo zvepachivande, asi pachikoro chiri paDUO 'list'.
(Usandinzwire zvisizvo, handisi kuti zvikoro zvisina-certified zvakaipa kana zvishoma, asi ndanga ndichida kunge ndiri parutivi rwakachengeteka)
Geert Jan
Hezvino zvimwe zvekuwedzera:
Iwe une akasiyana mamodule emutauro uye chizvarwa, mutauro uye kugadzirira kweNetherlands, nzanga uye basa. Mukuwedzera, mudzimai wangu aifanira kugadzira portfolio ine migove.
Iyo portfolio inobata mabasa akadai sekutora inishuwarenzi, kunyoresa nesangano revashandi (UWV), kushanyira chiremba wemazino, uye kubvunzurudzwa kwebasa. Kuvhura account yekubhanga etc. Pane maassignments angangoita makumi maviri nerimwe. Asi mubvunzo ndewekuti iyo yekupedzisira ichiri kudikanwa.
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Heino mutengo link http://www.itomtaal.nl/prijzen-inburgeringscursus-2/
Mudzimai wangu aifanira kuita 3 module uye zvakatora isingasviki 1 gore + kune mari yebvunzo.
Iyo 3600 haina chokwadi, yaive shoma muhuwandu. asi inopa pfungwa.
Kana iwe uchida kuti mukadzi wako adzidze kumwe kunhu, zano rakanakisa iSTE. Izvi zvinopa kutarisira kwakanakisisa. Makambani makuru mazhinji mudunhu anewo vanhu vavo vanodzidza pano. Saka zvakanaka zvakare kugadzira network
Watova muEindhoven?
Kuti uwane basa unoda network, nditende. Hapana kwaunosvika usina chikochikari.
Kunyangwe semukadzi wekuchenesa, chinodiwa ndechekuti unofanirwa kutaura chiDutch.
Rori,
Kuunganidza mapotfolio kwaifanira kuitwa chete nebvunzo yekare, asi zvinofadza izvi hazvichasanganisirwi mubvunzo itsva.
Mwedzi uno chete iwe unogona kusarudza bvunzo yekare, saka Geert Jan achangofanira kubata nebvunzo nyowani.
Bangkokian
Mhoro 😉
Hongu, zvirokwazvo, ndinogona kuzviita ndoga
ngaibve.
Kubva pamhinduro dzese, ndakachenjera pachangu
kuva. Uye ndakataura naye nezvazvo.
Izviwo zvitsva kwandiri.
Mushandirwi wangu ane chikochikari panyaya iyi
kureva.
Kubva kune email mushure mekugadzirisa kuti ubatane.
Sezvaitarisirwa, chikumbiro ichi hachina kuremekedzwa.
Saka ini ndakagadzira email yekushandisa kwenguva pfupi.
[email inodzivirirwa]
Ini handizive kana iyi (email address) inoratidzwa.
Ehe, ini ndichaita sarudzo yakanaka kubva kune ese ruzivo
kuzoita.
Uye isu zvirokwazvo tinoda sarudzo yakasimbiswa.
Uye chete izvo zvinodiwa.
Ndinewo chipangamazano kubva kubazi rekanzuru uye ndinosimbisa zvese naye.
Kutanga tora bvunzo yekubatanidza muBangkok
Handina kupokana zvachose kuti havasi kuedza izvi
vaizowana. Kana kuti aisazokwanisa kuzviita muNetherlands.
Iye chete ndiye anoda chaizvo kushanda mukuchenesa
Uye nekosi muNetherlands, izvi zvinogoneka kwemaawa mashoma mugore rekutanga.
Uye ndichaita nepandinogona napo kutsvaga bhara
kuwana. Kana kukumbira kwangu kune vanhu vakati wandei. Amai, mutongi wangu anogonawo kubatsira panyaya iyi.
Kwaziwai Geertjan.
Kukurukurirana kwakaipa
Musikana wangu wekuThai akandiwanira imwe
nguva yakatarwa yakavimbiswa.
Haana kuda kumirira nguva inopfuura gore.
Kana kuti mushure mekugara kwake kwemwedzi mitatu
muNetherlands havana kunzwa vakasununguka nazvo
zvichida rimwe gore kumirira
kusvikira akwanisa kuita shanduko.
Ndakanyatsozvitenda.
kuti aisazova nechinetso chokudzidza mutauro wechiDutch.
Akanga achitya kutora kosi yokubatanidzwa muNetherlands. uye kuwana basa.
Kana kuti zvimwe chimwe chinhu chiri kuitika.
Izvozvi hazvisisina hanya neni.
Ndakapedza hukama ini nekuti
Handidi kusava nechokwadi.
Uye zvechokwadi havadi kuisa mari mukusavimbika.
Ndinodawo kukuzivisai kuti nemvumo yekugara munokwanisa kuwana basa. Nekuti izvi zvinosanganisirwa mumvumo.
Haufanire kunyorera mvumo yekushanda.
Zvakare kwete €300 gore rekutanga uye €800 gore rega rinotevera. Idzi inyaya dzechipoko.
Hongu, zvakaoma kuti iwe hausi kutaura mutauro wechiDutch
Kunyanya kana zvasvika pakutsvaga basa.
Ndakaenda kuIND kune chimwe chinhu, asi ndakabvunza mubvunzo zvakadaro.
Ndinovimba kuti kuchine vanhu kunze kwangu
vanobatsirwa neizvi.
Uyewo yakakodzera kune zvidzidzo zvega. Nekuti kune vanhu vanoshandisa izvi. Uye iva nechokwadi chekuenda kuburikidza neyakasimbiswa yakasarudzwa agency.
Kwaziwai Geertjan
Zvakanaka chaizvo uye wakashinga kuti wapedza hukama. Handifungi kuti akanga aine chinangwa chekuuya kuNetherlands zvachose pandinoverenga nyaya yako.
Inoti zvakakwana kana achizoisa muganhu wenguva, kwete chiratidzo chakanaka.
Mushure meimwe email yakavanzika pakati peGeert-jan neni, 1 chirevo chakasara pane yake email
Unogona kunyorera bvunzo yekubatanidza kubva kuDUO. Iwe unobhadhara izvi zvakasiyana.
Saka kutaura, unogona kungonyorera bvunzo chero uchibhadhara.
Sei uye kupi kwaunowana ruzivo kubva harisi dambudziko.
Unogona kutora CHIREVO kubva kuDUO kuenda (pre) mari yekosi. Iwe unogona kubhadhara izvi zvakare mukati memakore matatu. Kana iwe ukashandisa izvi, unofanirwa kubata iyo yakasimbiswa Institute.
MuEindhoven mune sangano rekuzvipira (Vadzidzi vemutauro weFontys) rinopa zvidzidzo kaviri pavhiki pa2 euro pachidzidzo.
Zvakafanana muVeldhoven (kusvika katatu pavhiki) nevakawanda vekare vadzidzisi vanoitawo izvi.
Masangano aya anotsigirwa nemari nekanzuru.
Chakakosha ndechekuti unopasa bvunzo kumagumo, hapana chimwe.
Ndine urombo kunzwa kuti Geertjan. Ehe, ini handikuzive iwe kana iye pachedu, saka inoramba iri fungidziro yakazara yekuti chikonzero cheicho "kusashivirira" chii. Gore rinopfuura pasina nguva, asi mukati megore iroro musikana wako (ex) achiri kugona kupasa Dutch paA1 level yebvunzo pamumiriri. Dambudziko rinogoneka rinoramba riripo kana mudiwa wechiDutch (iwe mune ino kesi) unogona kusangana nemari inodiwa yeIND mukati megore re1. Ndinogona kufungidzira kuti semumwe wako iwe unoda kuchengeteka, iwe naye. Zviri pachena kuti haana kuwana simbiso yakakwana kubva kwauri. Kuti ndizvo here kana kuti kwete... ndiani anoziva. Waita zvaunogona uye ndinovimba vamwe vaverengi vatovewo nenjere shoma. Rombo rakanaka / kubudirira uye tevera moyo wako!
Zvakanaka wamuka. wobva wazvipedza...