Vadiwa vaverengi,
Ndakabviswa muNL kubva 31-Zvita-2018 (Ini zvino ndoziva kuti iyi yaive sarudzo yakaipa, ndingadai ndakadzimwa pa1-Jan-2019, asi zvaitwa!). Muna 2019 ndakaisa chiziviso chePIT muTH uye ndakabhadhara mutero. Mushure mezvo, ndakagamuchira fomu RO21 (Income Tax Payment_Certificate) uye fomu RO22 (Chitupa Chekugara) kubva kumatare emitero eThai. Ndakatumira mafomu maviri aya (pamwe nemamwe maappendices manomwe) pamwe chete nefomu rekuti 'Chikumbiro chekuregererwa paMutero Wemuhoro' kuVakuru Vemitero muHeerlen. Ini zvino ndakamirira mhedzisiro yechishandiso ichi (chinogona kutora kusvika kumavhiki gumi!). Sekunzwisisa kwandinoita, kusunungurwa hakupihwe retroactively pamusoro pemakore apfuura.
Kwegore ra2019 ini zvakare ndinofanira kunyorera mutero muNL semunhu asiri kugara mutero, izvo zvinoitwa online kuburikidza nesaiti 'My Tax Authorities'. Muna 2019, ndakanga ndisati ndave nekuregererwa pamutero wekubhadhara mutero nekuti ndakakwanisa kuunyorera muna 2020 mushure mekutanga kubhadhara mutero muTH ye2019. Saka muna 2019, mutero wekubhadhara wakavharirwa muNL pamari yaingobatirwa mutero. Thailand (maererano nechibvumirano chemutero pakati peNL neTH). Ndingatora sei mutero wakanyanya kubhadharwa uyu? Kubva pane zvakapfuura zvinyorwa paThailandblog ndine ruzivo rwunotevera kubva kuna Lammert de Haan
Lammert de Haan anoti musi wa5 Chivabvu 2019 na21:10:
Zvinoenderana nemuenzaniso wakapihwa neTax and Customs Administration, unotaura huwandu hwakazara hweAOW pundutso mukudzoka kwemutero wako. Muchikamu chakakodzera, unoratidza kuti Netherlands haibvumidzwe kubhadharisa mutero pamari iyi. Nenzira iyi mutero wakapetwa kaviri unodziviswa.
Lammert de Haan anoti musi wa7 Chivabvu 2019 na12:08:
Kana mumwe munhu asina kukwanisa kuwana kuregererwa, semugumisiro wemutero wemubhadharo wakanyimwa kubva papensheni yake yega kana mubhadharo we annuity: usanetseka. Iyo Team Wage Tax yeVakazvimiririra Indiwo ine basa rekuburitsa kuregererwa. Asi kana iwe ukazotumira mutero wemari inodzoserwa, iwe unotumirwa kuIncome Tax Team uye iwe uchawana kudzoserwa kwemutero wemuhoro wakabatwa nekudzoka.
Mune yangu nyaya haisi yeAOW asi nezve penjeni uye annuity kubhadhara. Muchiziviso chepamhepo semunhu asingagari mutero unogona kuratidza kune yega yega mari imarii iyo NL isingatenderwe kubhadharisa. Izvi hazvibvunzi chero ruzivo rwekuwedzera kana chero humbowo zvachose. Izvi zvinopesana nechikumbiro chekuregererwa pamutero wekubhadhara mutero, iyo marudzi ese emamwe ruzivo anofanirwa kupihwa (ndatumira huwandu hwe9 zvakabatanidzwa nechikumbiro).
Mubvunzo wangu zvino ndewekuti: mari dzese dzakataurwa muchiziviso semuteresi asiri mugari uyo NL isingabvumidzwe kubhadharisa inogamuchirwa? Zvinoita mutsauko wakawanda kuti izvi zvinogamuchirwa here kana kuti kwete. Kana zvakadaro, ndichawana mari yakanaka zvakare (uye zvakakodzera, shure kwezvose, ndakabhadhara zvisiri izvo kaviri) asi kana zvisingaiti, ndicharamba ndichiwana kuongororwa kwakawanda nokuti mutero muduku wakabhadharwa!
Kwazisai,
Gerard
Gerard, handigoni kufungidzira kuti L. de Haan anonyora pane imwe nzvimbo kuti Netherlands haibvumirwi kubhadhara penjeni yehurumende mushure mekutamira kuThailand. Kana zvakadaro, AOW icharamba ichibhadhariswa mutero muNL uye kana iwe ukaenda neAOW yako kuThailand MUgore rekugamuchira, ichabhadhariswa mutero muThailand. Chibvumirano chekare chiri kushanda parizvino hachisanganisi ndima yekudzivirira Thailand kuti isabate penjeni yenyika yako.
Iwe unofanirwa kuisa chiziviso muNL ye2019; kutama kwako kwaive muna 2018 (unofanirwa kunge wakazadza fomu reM-rakawanda nepeni…) saka unofanirwa kuzadza C-fomu online. Pasi pe 'Pensions nezvimwe zvikomborero' pane mubvunzo wekuti mari iyo inobhadharwa inobhadharwa zvakakwana muNetherlands. Ikoko une nzvimbo (iwe watozviona iwe pachako) kuratidza kuti ndeipi mari isingabhadharwi muNL. Uye iwe unogona kuvimba nevakuru vemitero kuti vatarise kana iwe waipinda nemazvo!
Iwe haubvunze 'kudzoka'; iwe unozivisa izvo zvinotereswa muNL uye mutero wakakodzera unobuda. Kana mutero wakanyimwa wakakwira, unodzoserwa mutsauko. Kana vateresi vachida zvimwe, une kodzero yokuramba uye kukwidza nyaya yacho.
Eric, ndatenda nemhinduro yako!
Pamwe ndakanga ndisina kunyatsojeka, ndine urombo.
Ndinoziva kuti iyo AOW inotereswa muNL uye kwete muTH kana isina kuendeswa kuTH. Ndakaedza kutaura kuti hapana mutero wakabhadharwa paAOW muTH ye2019 nekuti iyo AOW haina kuendeswa kuTH uye saka iyo AOW haina kubhadharwa kaviri. Ndakaendesa mari yangu yepenjeni neye annuity kuTH uye mutero wakabhadharwa muTH uye nekuti mutero wemubhadharo wakanyimwa, mutero wakabhadharwawo muNL.
Ndakazadza fomu reM nepeni ra2018 gore rakapera. Izvo hazvina kundifadza, ishato yechimiro iyo!
Iwe unoti: "Uye iwe unogona kuvimba nevakuru vemitero kuti vatarise kana iwe waipinda nemazvo"!
Iyi ndiyo pfungwa yangu chaiyo: vanoita sei izvozvo kana pasina rumwe ruzivo kana humbowo hunokumbirwa zvachose? Izvi zvinopesana nechikumbiro chekuregererwa pamutero wekubhadhara, apo zvinhu zvose zvinofanira kuziviswa uye uchapupu hunokumbirwa. Ini ndinoona izvi zvinoshamisa nekuti mumaonero angu izvi zvinhu zviviri zvinouya kune chinhu chimwe chete, kureva kuti hapana mutero unokodzera pane imwe mari muNL.
Gerard, sevhisi inoziva zvirinani kupfuura iwe mashandiro anoita mari yako uye nekuti uri mutorwa muna 2019, mari yako yese yemudyandigere haibhadharwi muNL (kunze kwekunge iri penjeni yenyika, asi iwe haunyore nezvazvo).
Ndakatora yangu C-noti kubva kune rimwe remakore iwayo.
Mumubvunzo uri mubvunzo, ndakapinda mupenjeni yose X,000 uye mutero wekubhadhara 0, uye ipapo mubvunzo unotevera: ndeipi chikamu chisina mutero muNL? Imomo ndakapinda X.000. Ndine penjeni imwe chete, masvomhu ari nyore. Kana uine penjeni inodarika imwechete, vashandi vehurumende vachafara kuiongorora. Zvinotonyanya kuoma kana ukaenda kune imwe nyika pakati pegore nekuti unozogovana mari yepenjeni nekufamba kwenguva, asi izvo hazvifanirwe kwauri. Hapana akandibvunza chero chinhu kubva kuna Heerlen, chirevo chakateverwa.
Nekuda kwekukwana: ko mari yaienderana nemari iri pasi peHealthcare Insurance Act yakabviswawo kubva kwauri muna 2019? Iwe haugamuchire izvi pakudzoka kwemutero uyu, asi unofanirwa kuendesa chikumbiro chakasiyana cheizvi kune veUtrecht mutero wevakuru.
Iwe unofunga kuti chimiro cheM ishato? Kubvumirana newe zvachose……!
Gerard, Erik akazvitsanangura zvakanaka pamusoro uye zvishandise kune mukana wako.
Ndine mamiriro akafanana neAOW + annuity inotereswa muNL uye penjeni yakavanzika inotereswa muThailand. Thailand inoteresa mari inounzwa uye mune yangu ndinongotumira yakavanzika penjeni kuThailand uye mamwe anogara muNetherlands. Ndinogona kuzviita nekuti ini ndinowana vhiza yangu yegore negore zvichienderana nebhangi bhangi uye kwete pahwaro hwe (kuunzwa) mari. Ini ndinoshandisa AOW yangu kuParis-based health insurance, pakati pezvimwe zvinhu.
Ndinokupa zano kuti uone kana AOW uye annuity inogona kuramba iri muNetherlands uye kana uine kadhi rechikwereti rakabhadhariswa kuakaundi yako yebhangi yeDutch, unogona kutenga muzvitoro zvakawanda uye makambani ekutumira tsamba nekadhi rako rechikwereti pasina kuendesa AOW yako + annuity ku. Thailand. uye inomhanya mune inokwanisika mutero wakapetwa kaviri.
Sezvineiwo, mukuona kwangu haufanirwe kupa chitupa RO 21 kune veDutch Tax Authorities nekuti RO 22 inoratidza kuti uri mutero mugari weThailand uye veDutch Tax Authorities havafanire kuziva zvakawanda mumaonero angu. Munguva yakapfuura, ini pachangu ndakangoendesa RO 22 uye ndikazogamuchira kuregererwa kwangu kubva pakunyima mutero wemuhoro.
Rombo rakanaka!
Hi Rembrandt,
Iwe unonyora kuti yako AOW bhenefiti uye yako annuity mutero inobhadharwa muNetherlands. Nekudaro, yako yekubhadhara annuity inobhadhariswa mutero muThailand uyezve kana iwe uchiunza kuThailand mugore raunonakidzwa nayo, nekuti kana zvisina kudaro haisi mari asi kuchengetedza.
Ingoverenga izvo Chibvumirano chekudzivisa mutero wakapetwa kaviri wakapedzwa pakati peNetherlands neThailand:
"Chisungo 18. Penjeni uye annuities
1. Zvichienderana nezvinodiwa zvendima 19 yeChisungo ichi uye ndima XNUMX yeChitsauko XNUMX, penjeni nemimwe mibairo yakafanana maererano nebasa rekare ichabhadharwa kune mugari weimwe yeNyika, pamwe nekubhadhara kune vakadaro vanogara annuities. inotererwa chete muNyika iyoyo.
2. Zvisinei, mari yakadaro inogonawo kubhadhariswa mutero mune imwe Hurumende kusvika kutambanuko yokuti inodhura kudaro yemhindu inoitwa mune imwe Nyika iyoyo nebhizimisi reimwe Hurumende iyoyo kana kuti nebhizimisi rine gadziriro yechigarire imomo.”
Mune mamwe mazwi: chete kana yako annuity yekubhadhara "sezvakadaro" ichibhadhariswa kune purofiti yeDutch insurer, saka Netherlands inogona KUTI iite mutero pane izvi.
Iwe unogona kuzotarisana neimwe yenzira dzekugadzirisa dzinotaurwa muChikamu 23 cheChibvumirano, kuitira kudzivirira mutero wakapetwa kaviri.
Anenge makore manomwe apfuura, Dare reDunhu reZeeland - West Brabant, nzvimbo Breda, rakapa mitongo yakawanda mukukurumidza kutevedzana, umo kodzero yekubhadharisa mutero pamari yeanuity kubva kuAEGON, pakati pevamwe, yakapihwa pahwaro hweChikamu 7. , ndima 18, yeChibvumirano. Chinhu chisina kusimba mumitongo iyi ndechekuti pakange pasina kutaurwa nezvekudzikiswa kwakataurwa muChikamu 2 cheChibvumirano.
Sezvineiwo, hapana nyaya yakwidzwa pamusoro pemitongo iyi.
Kusvika pari zvino yaramba ine zvirevo izvi. Kune vatengi vangu vekuThai, ndinogara ndichimaka mubhadharo wepagore seunobhadhariswa mutero muThailand. Zviri kune Mutero uye Customs Administration kuratidza kuti mamiriro akacherechedzwa panguva iyo nekuremekedza AEGON, semuenzaniso, ichiripo nhasi. Handisi kufungidzira kuti izvi zvichiri zvakadaro.
Munguva pfupi yapfuura ndakave nehurukuro pamusoro peizvi nemushandi weTax and Customs Administration/Hofisi kunze kwenyika. Kunyange zvazvo pakutanga kwaiva pamusoro pekugadziriswa kusina kururama kweM-fomu nevakuru vemitero, mari yemutengi wangu ye annuity yakakurukurwawo. Ndakaratidza maonero angu kumushandi uyu, zvichibva zvaita kuti chiziviso chitevedzerwewo panyaya iyi.
Nekutaura kwako nezvekutenga kutenga uchishandisa yako Dutch kadhi rechikwereti, uri kufamba pamusoro pechando chakatetepa. Munguva pfupi iri kuuya pachave nekuiswa (uye zvakare nekukasira kushandisa zvakare) yemari muThailand uye nekudaro inowira pasi peMutero Wemari Yemunhu. Imwe pfungwa, zvakadaro, ndeyekuti: unozvitarisa sei semukuru wemutero weThai. Chiitiko changu ndechekuti vashandi vehurumende ava havana hunyanzvi hwekutonga theory. Asi zvachose zviri pamutemo hazvina kururama!
Iwe wakarurama nekutaura kwako nezve kungotumira Chiziviso chemutero wemutero wenyika yekugara (RO22) kune Mutero uye Customs Administration/Hofisi Kunze kwenyika. Usaendese fomu rekuzivisa (PND91) uye RO21 chitupa. Usavaite vakachenjera muHeerlen kupfuura zvakafanira!
Wadiwa.Lammert,
ndinokutendai netsanangudzo yedu yakadzama. Munguva yakapfuura ndakazvimisira pane hunoshanda hutongi uye nekudaro ndakave ne annuities yakabhadhariswa mutero muNetherlands. Izvozvo zvaiitawo sezvine musoro kwandiri nokuti panguva iyoyo ndakabvisawo mapremium mumari yemitero. Panguva ino, kubhadhara kwe annuity kwapera kwandiri, asi vaverengi veThailandblog vanogona kubatsirwa kubva pamaonero ako uye zvichida vane hondo shoma nevakuru vemitero.
Zvaunonyora nezve zano rangu rekutenga nekadhi rechikwereti reDutch ndezvechokwadi uye ini handidi zvachose kukurudzira kunzvenga mutero uye kuraira munhu wese kuti atore chirevo chako.
Hi Rembrandt,
Ini ndinoda zano rekuti iwe wakabhadhara yako annuity mutero muNetherlands nekuti iwe wakanakidzwa nemutero wemutero panguva yekuwedzera chikamu. Asi kubvisirwa mutero uku kunoshandawo kumubatsiri wako wepenjeni.
Mubvunzo ndewekuti wakakwanisa kubvisa sei deposit kana mapremium panguva yekuwedzera chikamu che annuity nekuda kweiyo inowanzo diki inonzi "annual scope". Uye kana zviri izvo, saka iwe hauna chikwereti chemutero pane iyo isiri-mutero-inofambiswa chikamu, kunyangwe uchigara muNetherlands. Izvi zvinogara zvisingatarisirwi kana tichigara muNetherlands, zvichiita kuti vanhu vakawanda vechiDutch vabhadhare mutero wemari yakawandisa pamari yavo ye annuity!
Netherlands ine kodzero shoma dzemitero chete maererano nevateresi vekunze vanogara muThailand. Yakapa nemaune kodzero yekubhadharisa mutero wepenjeni yakazvimirira uye mubhadharo weannuity kuThailand neChibvumirano.
Chete kana mubhadharo wepenjeni kana annuity uchibviswa kubva mupurofiti yekambani yeDutch, Netherlands inogona zvakare kubhadharisa pairi, kuwedzera kuThailand.
Asi pamusoro peiyi kodzero shoma yemutero, pane kushaikwa kwese kwe mukana wekuti iwe ubvise, semuenzaniso, mubereko wembavha, zvisungo zvealimony, mutengo wehutano hwehutano, mipiro kune, semuenzaniso, Refugee Work Foundation uye zvichingodaro. Mukuwedzera, iwe hauna kodzero yekubhadhara mutero.
Nenzira iyi, Netherlands ichawana kukosha kwayo kwemari kana zvasvika pakubhadharisa yako AOW bhenefiti (nekufamba kwenguva). Saka “rudo” harubvi kune rimwe divi.
Saka zvirokwazvo hauna kufanira kunzwa "uine mhosva" nekubhadhariswa mutero wako weannuity neThailand panguva iyoyo, pahwaro hweChisungo 18, ndima 1, yeChibvumirano cheMutero Kaviri chakapedzwa pakati peNetherlands neThailand.
Ini zvakare ndakaenda zvachose kuThailand muna 2018 uye ndakaisa chiziviso muThailand che2019 yepenjeni yangu. Hapana penjeni yenyika zvakare, ndakaisa iyo muakaundi yekuchengetedza muNetherlands.
Ndokukumbira kuregererwa imwe nguva muna Kukadzi, ndakangotumira RO 21 fomu rekuti ini ndaive mutero mugari muThailand muna 2019, nekuti harisi bhizinesi ravo kuti mutero wakawanda wandinobhadhara pano. Kuregererwa uku kwakapihwa mavhiki maviri apfuura kwemakore mashanu aine retroactive kubva 5 Ndira, kunze kwemudyandigere wenyika.
Ndakaisawo mutero wegore ra2019, ndichadzosa chikamu chandakabhadhariswa mutero muThailand munguva pfupi.
Sezvineiwo, ini handinzwisise kuti sei usingabvunze mubvunzo wako kuna Mr de Haan, anova nyanzvi pano nezve madzoro emitero uye kubviswa muThailand.
Ndakatamira kuThailand musi waKubvumbi 1, 2015 uye ndakava nemuhoro wakajairwa mumwedzi yapfuura uye 2015 mabhenefiti ekutanga pamudyandigere kubva pakati pa2 kusvika Zvita (ndichine iwo maviri ekutanga pamudyandigere). Muna 2, ndakabhadhara mutero wakazara muThailand muna Kurume 2015. Neaya mafomu echiThai ndakanyorera uye ndakagamuchira kusapinda muHeerlen, hongu kwete neretroactive effect. Ini zvakare ndakazadza fomu "rakashata" M ra2016 muna 2015, ndichitaura kuti ndakabhadhara mutero weThai we2016. Kudzoserwa kwemutero kweNL kwa2015 kwaive kwakawanda!
Ehe ndakabhadharawo mutero weThai we2016 muna 2017 uye ndakagamuchira mutero wese wekubhadhara wekusunungurwa kwangu kuburikidza nefomu reNL.
Ndakagamuchirawo mubhadharo wepamwechete muna 2018 wandakatadza kunyorera kuregererwa, wandakagamuchira muna 2019 mushure mekubvunzana naHeerlen, izvo, nenzira, zvine zvese zvinobatwa nehofisi yemutero yepurovhinzi kwaunopedzisira. aigara muNL (kwandiri yaive Almere).
Mhoro Gerard,
Yekutanga quote kubva kwandiri iwe wakadhirowa, pasina kuiisa muchirevo chakaitika, inopa mufananidzo wakakanganiswa zvachose.
Senyanzvi yemutero, nyanzvi mumutemo wemitero yepasi rose, unogara uchitsvaga nzira dzekunzvenga mutero. Saka pandakasangana nepeji rewebhu reMutero uye Customs Administration ine sarudzo yakadai, ndakasvetukira mairi.
Ndinokupa zano kuti uverenge rugwaro rwese zvakare. Unogona kuiwana pasi peiyi link:
https://www.thailandblog.nl/lezersvraag/beroep-doen-op-de-regeling-voorkoming-dubbele-belasting-in-nederland-en-thailand/
Panguva ino, chivakwa ichi hachichashandi sezvo peji ino yewebhu yakabviswa neVatongi Vemitero, kuitira kuti iwe haugone kuwana chero kodzero kubva kwairi: hapasisina chero mubvunzo wekumutsa chivimbo!
Zvino zviri nyore kufunga kuti sei peji rewebhu rino rakabviswa!
Ndisati uye zvakare pashure ndakatsanangura kakawanda kuti, maererano nekuchengetedzwa kwemagariro evanhu (kusanganisira AOW, WIA, WAO uye WW mabhenefiti), mutemo wenyika unoshanda kuNetherlands neThailand uye naizvozvo nyika mbiri dzinogona kubhadharisa rubatsiro rwakadaro.
Anodiwa Lammert de Haan,
Ndinokumbira ruregerero maererano neshoko rako rekutanga. Chakanga chisiri chinangwa changu kupenda mufananidzo wakamonyaniswa!
Chandaingove nehanya nacho chaiva chinyorwa ichi:
“Muchikamu chakakodzera, munoratidza kuti Netherlands haibvumidzwe kubhadharisa mutero pamari iyi. Nenzira iyi, mutero wakapetwa kaviri unodziviswa. "
Ini ndanga ndisinei neAOW zvachose, asi ikozvino ndaona kuti nekushandisa iyi quote yako ndinogona kunge ndakapa pfungwa isiriyo maererano neAOW.
Ndakadzidza zvakawanda kubva kuruzivo rwenyanzvi pazvinhu zvemutero zvaunogara uchitumira paThailandblog uye ndinokutendai nazvo! Ndinotenda zvikuru kuedza kwaunoita kubatsira vanhu!
Zvakare, Ruregerero rwangu!