Ndinogona here kusarudza nzira yeBelgium yekuunza musikana wangu weThai kuNetherlands?
Vadiwa vapepeti,
Ndinogara nekushanda kuNetherlands uye ndine chizvarwa cheBelgian, musikana wangu weThai achiri kugara kuThailand, asi anoda kuuya kuzogara neni kuNetherlands, saka ndinofanira kumunyorera MVV. Ari kutotora kosi yekubatanidza uye achanyora bvunzo muBangkok.
Nekuti ndine pasipoti yeBelgian, ndeapi magwaro andinoda uye ndingaakumbire kupi? Uye ndeapi magwaro anodiwa nemusikana wangu wekuThai uye angaakumbire kupi?
Kana kuti pane nzira kuburikidza neBelgium? Kana tikachata ikoko, achazove mugari weEU uye anogona here kugara neni muNetherlands?
Kwazisai,
jor
Wadiwa Jor,
Mugari weEU akaroora kana kuti ane hukama hwenguva refu uye hwakasarudzika nemunhu asiri weEU uye anoda kuenda kune imwe nyika yeEU/EEA kuzororo kana kutama kunowira pasi pemitemo yakakosha. Iyo vhiza yenguva dzose kana kutama zvinodiwa hazvishande, chero ukasangana nezvinodiwa neEU Directive 2004/38 maererano nekodzero yekusununguka kufamba kwemhuri yezvizvarwa zveEU.
Izvi zvinoreva kuti iwe nemumwe wako munogona kuita inodaidzwa kuti EU nzira (inonyanya kuzivikanwa i'Belgium nzira': vanhu vechiDutch newavanogara navo vanoita nzira yeEU kuburikidza neBelgium). Mapepa mashoma akawanda anodiwa uye mumwe wako haasungirwe kutora chikamu mukubatanidzwa. Kuti uuye kuNetherlands, mumwe wako anogona kupinda nemahara, yakakurumidza vhiza rudzi C kwekugara kwenguva pfupi. Kana wangove muNetherlands, unonyorera pekugara kune mumwe wako. Mune dzidziso iwe unogona zvakare kunyorera yerudzi rweD (MVV), asi izvo hazvina kunyanya kuwanda.
Kune vhiza yemahara iwe unofanirwa kuratidza:
- Legitimation (pasipoti yakakodzera) yeEU yenyika uye mutorwa.
- Kuti kune muchato kana hukama hunogara uye hwega. Ratidza izvi nemagwaro. Mune yako, semuenzaniso, iwe unoshandisa zvitambi zvekufamba, mashoma mapikicha akabatana uye muchidimbu bhokisi rako retsamba kana chimwe chinhu chakafanana kuratidza kuti iwe wakazivana kwenguva yakati uye kuchengetedza hukama hwakakomba. Usapinze makomo emapepa kana ruzivo rwepachivande, mukuru wacho haafarire izvozvo zvakare. Zano: isa rumwe ruzivo muchidimbu tsamba ye1 kana 2 mapeji.
- Kuti mutorwa ari kufamba kana kuti achaperekedza mumwe weEU muEurope (mune imwe nyika isiri iyo iyo mugari weEU ari wenyika !!). Semuenzaniso, ratidza kubhuka kwetikiti rendege, asi chiziviso chakanyorwa uye chakasainwa kubva kumugari weEU chakakwanawo.
- HAZVI ZVINOFANIRA: humbowo hwekudzoka vimbiso, zviwanikwa zvemari, mapepa ekugara, inishuwarenzi yekufamba (zvine hungwaru kutora zvakadaro) nezvimwe.
Ini pachangu, ndaizonyorera vhiza nekugadzwa kuburikidza neembassy. Iwe unogona zvakare kushanyira inosarudzika yekunze sevhisi inopa VFS, asi kune yakakosha vhiza ndinofunga zvingave zvakanaka kana mukuru wechiDutch achigona kubatsira panzvimbo yemugari weThai nekudzidziswa kwekutanga. Onawo Schengen visa faira. Peji 22, pasi pemusoro unoti “Zvakadini nemavhiza/maitiro emhuri yerudzi rweEU/EEA?”: https://www.thailandblog.nl/wp-content/uploads/Schengenvisum-dossier-sept-2017. pdf
Ngwarira!
Paunenge wava kuNetherlands, mumwe wako anofanira kushanyira IND kuti awane kadhi rekugara, kunyoresa kukanzuru, nezvimwewo. Saka ita shuwa kuti anotora mapepa ake ese: chiziviso chekusaroora uye gwaro rekuzvarwa. Izvi zvinofanirwawo kushandurirwa zviri pamutemo muchiRungu uye kunyoreswa zviri pamutemo nebazi reThai rekunze kwenyika uye embassy.
Kana uchinge wasvika kuNetherlands, iwe uchafanirwa kuratidza iyo IND kuti une pekugara (hapana zvinodiwa) uye mari yakakwana kuitira kuti iwe wakazvimiririra mune zvemari uye usazonyorera mabhenefiti (verenga: basa, asi hapana chakanangana muhoro chinodiwa. ) Hazvina kudikanwa kubatanidza mberi kana muNetherlands. Chokwadi uchamubatsira kudzidza mutauro wacho. Mamwe makanzuru ane homwe yerubatsiro yekosi yemutauro kunyanya kune vekune dzimwe nyika vasingasungirwe kubatanidza.
Izvi zvinoita seruzivo rwakakwana ikozvino, asi tora nguva yako uye uverenge nemazvo. Semuenzaniso nezve EU nzira. Zvichida iwe kana mumwe muverengi angade kugovera ruzivo rwavo neblogi mushure mekuita maitiro?
Rombo rakanaka uye mufaro pamwe chete!
Kwazisai,
Rob V.
Zvishandiso uye rumwe ruzivo:
- https://ind.nl/eu-eer/Paginas/Familieleden-met-een-andere-nationaliteit.aspx
- https://www.nederlandenu.nl/reizen-en-wonen/visa-voor-nederland/schengenvisum-kort-vakantie-90-dagen
- https://europa.eu/youreurope/citizens/travel/entry-exit/non-eu-nationals/index_nl.htm
- the annex "Handbook yekugadzirisa ma visa" uyezve "chikamu III" pa: https://ec.europa.eu/home-affairs/what-we-do/policies/borders-and-visas/visa - policy_en
- www.buitenlandsepartner.nl (EU nzira)
Kana Netherlands ikasarudza, vanosungirwa kutora kosi yekubatanidza uye iwe unofanirwa kuibhadharawo.
Kana ukasarudza Belgium, haudi izvo zvisina maturo. anogona kuzvidira kutora kosi uye inobhadharwawo.
Hazvina kururama. Jor muBelgian muNetherlands, saka anowira pasi pemitemo yeEU uye saka hapana kosi yekubatanidza!
Zvakanakisisa,
Nezve chisungo chekubatanidza muBelgium: Unofanira kupatsanura Belgium, sezvo mamwe masimba akaendeswa kumatunhu. Apa vave kuita kuti zvinhu zvese zviomese vanhu.
MuFlanders, kosi yekubatanidza inosungirwa uye zvidzidzo zvemutauro wechiDutch zvakare zvinosungirwa.
MuBrussels, hapana chinoratidzika kuva chinosungirwa zvachose.
Handizivi kuWallonia.
Kwaziwai uye nerombo rakanaka!
Chimwe chinhu chinobatsira kune vanhu vechiDutch vanouya kuBelgium:
Iyo yakajairwa yekumhanya inogumira mumigwagwa yedunhu i90 km/h. MuFlanders iyi i70 km/h seyakajairwa.
Wadiwa Rob,
Handizivi zvaunonyatsoreva kuti mumwe wako asingadi kubatanidza, zvichida iwe unoreva PRIOR, saka izvo zvakarurama, asi kamwe muBelgium kune chisungo chekubatanidza uye iwe unofanirwa kutora 2 Dutch modules!
Pane chisungo chekuzivisa paunosvika, uchawana kadhi rekugara reorange kana wakaroora kana wakaroora kana kuti wakapinda muchibvumirano chekugarisana. Zvino kadhi reorange rinoshanda kwemwedzi mitanhatu uye unofanirawo kugara kuBelgium kwemwedzi mitanhatu, iwe havabvumidzwe kubva munzvimbo yeBelgian panguva iyoyo.
Mvg, Fernand
Wadiwa Fernand, nhengo yemhuri yemugari weEU/EEA anogara pamwechete mune imwe nyika yeEU haambosungirwe kunyoresa. Vaviri veDutch-Thai muBelgium kana kuti murume nomudzimai veBelgian-Thai muNetherlands havafaniri kubatana. Izvo zvechokwadi zvinotenderwa, asi hazvigone kudikanwa. Kune masevhisi anopa kubatanidzwa kwemahara (makirasi emitauro) kumhuri idzi, uye ipapo unogona kutora mukana weizvozvo.
Mhuri inogona kuita nekugara mhiri kwemuganhu kwemwedzi mitatu, vanogonawo kuenda kuzororo pano kana ikoko mukati nekunze kweEurope. Iko hakuna kurambidzwa kweEurope pane izvi. Kufamba nekukurumidza mushure memwedzi ye3 ichokwadi kukumbira hondo nevakuru nekuti vanozofungira kushungurudzwa uye izvo hazvitenderwe. Mwedzi mitanhatu haisi yekumanikidza, asi zvechokwadi inobatsira kudzivirira kunetseka. Mukuita, zororo refu haribatsiri kana iwe uchangotanga maitiro (somuenzaniso, nekuda kwekushanya kwemupurisa weko / mapurisa anobva kune imwe nyika). Vakuru veBelgian vari pamuganhu kunyanya vane mbiri yekusanyatso remekedza mitemo yeEU. Kufambirana nezvikumbiro zvisina musoro kubva kuvashandi vehurumende zvinogona kuita kuti hupenyu hwako huve nyore, asi kuziva kodzero dzako nezvisungo zvinobva paRegulation 3/6 hakusi hungwaru kana vashandi vehurumende vakakukasira nezvikumbiro zvisirizvo kana zvimwe zvisina maturo. Musoro wenyaya weBelgian muNetherlands, ndinotarisira kushomeka kana kusanetsa nevakuru veDutch (manisipala, mapurisa, IND, nezvimwewo), chero Jor asingapi fungidziro yekuda kushandisa zvisina kunaka mitemo / nzira yeEU.
Kana iwe gare gare ukadzokera kunyika iyo mugari weEU anobva, hapachina chisungo chekubatanidza. Saka zviri nyore: vanhu vanowira pasi peChirongwa havasungirwe kubatanidza chero nguva panguva kana mushure memaitiro.
Mudiwa haafanirwe kutora chikamu mukubatanidzwa muBelgium, nekuti nyika yekugara iNetherlands: kuBelgian iyi ichiri imwe nyika yeEU, uye mitemo inotsanangurwa naRob inoshanda. Waanoshanda naye anogonawo kufamba akasununguka muEU yose (mukambani yemunyoreri), kusanganisira Belgium, uye kushanda kwese kwese nekukasira.
Saka kunyangwe kana mushure meimwe nguva (inenge 6 mwedzi) zvakasarudzwa kugara muBelgium zvakare, hapana HAPANA chisungo chekubatanidza kune mudiwa. Nekudaro, iyo Belgian IND inofanirwa kuve nechokwadi kuti hachisi chivakwa chakagadzirirwa chinangwa ichi.
Nyaya yacho yava kunzi Belgium Route, asi muBelgian muNetherlands ndiyo Netherlands Route. 😉
Ndokuwana kupi mapepa? Shamwari yako inogona kunyorera mapepa eThai kubva kukanzuru yake (ammphur). Zveshanduro uye pamutemo. Iwe unofanirwa kuenda ikoko iwe pachako kana kushandisa dhesiki (pane imwe diagonally yakatarisana neDutch embassy). Ona semuenzaniso:
- https://www.thailandblog.nl/lezersvraag/vertaling-document-mvv/
- https://www.thailandblog.nl/nieuws-uit-thailand/duurt-legalisatie-documenten/
Iwe haudi zvakawanda iwe pachako, chaizvo mapepa ezvebasa rako ayo IND inoda kuona. Ona iyo IND webhusaiti pandakabatanidza nasr. Asi iwe unongofanira kuzviita kana waronga mapepa ako eThai, vhiza, nezvimwe.
Uye kwete, mutorwa haapiwi nyika (EU citizenship) sechipo. Iye achakwanisa kuzvarwa mushure memakore mashoma, asi kusvika ipapo acharamba ari mugari weThai uye nhengo yemhuri yemugari weEU (iwe pachako). Uye nekuti iwe, seBelgian, unogara muNetherlands, uri pasi pekodzero dzakaiswa muDirectice 2004/38:
https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=celex:32004L0038
Kana iwe uchinyatsoda kuziva nhanho yega yega, ini ndinotarisa kune yekune dzimwe nyika shamwari foramu kwaunogona kuwana nyanzvi dzine ruzivo kubva kumunda.
Wakatowana mhinduro ine udzame pamusoro.
Muchidimbu, zvinoreva kuti kana iwe waizoroora asati auya kuNetherlands, zvese zvaizova chakavanzika. Nekuti uri muBelgian, anobva apihwa vhiza yemahara kubva kumumiriri weDutch (VFS ichafanira kuziva izvi).
Angove muNetherlands, anobva anyorera "EU kuongororwa" kubva kuIND. Nekuti unogara nekushanda muNetherlands, hapana zvimwe zvinodiwa kunze kwemuchato uripo uye anogashira kadhi rekugara mukati memwedzi mitanhatu inoshanda kwemakore mashanu. Mushure memakore mashanu achagamuchira kodzero yekugara zvachose (iwe unogona kunge uchitova nazvo iwe pachako).
Kana musati maroorana uye musati magara pamwe chete kumwe kunhu kwemwedzi mitanhatu (semuenzaniso, Thailand), zviri nani kuti auye kuNetherlands aine vhiza yekugara kwenguva pfupi (uye anofanira kubhadhara € 60 mubhadharo) . Visa yevhiki mbiri pachayo inopfuura kukwana. Paanenge ari muNetherlands, muchagara pamwe chete pakero imwe chete nekukurumidza uye kuunganidza humbowo hweizvi. Zvakare mune ino mamiriro, musikana wako achakumbira "EU ongororo" kubva kuIND pane imwe nguva. Izvi zvinogonekawo kana mave nemwedzi isingasviki mitanhatu muchigara mese. Iyo nguva inopera yega, kunyangwe application ikatanga kurambwa uye kupokana kuchifanirwa kuiswa. Vanongofanira kubva muNetherlands kana mutongi asimbisa danho reIND, chimwe chinhu chinogona kutora gore.
Ruzivo rwakawanda runowanikwawo http://www.belgieroute.eu
Pamusoro peMushandi Wekune dzimwe nyika ataurwa, unogona zvakare kubvunza mimwe mibvunzo http://www.mixed-couples.nl
Muzviitiko zvese iwe unoda chiziviso chako chekunyoresa (chinamira mupasipoti yako), kunze kwekunge watova nekadhi rekugara zvachose (kwete reNational NL mvumo yekugara zvachose!).
Unogona kunge wakaronga izvi.
Ivo kana iwe havafanirwe kubatanidza. Kunze kwekunge mumwe wenyu achida kuve Dutch, asi iyo inongove sarudzo mushure memakore mashanu ekugara.
Kana iwe, seBelgian (uri kugara ikoko) kana semugari weEU muNetherlands, uchienda kuBelgium uye uchirenda / kutenga imba ikoko, unogona kurega mudzimai wako kuti agare newe kubva pakuona kwekubatanidzwazve kwemhuri. Anogashira mvumo yekugara kwenguva pfupi (6 mwedzi) uye anogona kushanda nekugara asi asingabve munyika. Mukati memwedzi mitanhatu, Brussels anobva aita danho rekuti achawana kadhi rake rekugara zvachose (F kadhi). Izvi zvinonyanya kuenderana nemari yemurume. Iyi inofanira kuva mari shoma. Saka ndezvekunyoresa murume uyo mukadzi ari kurovha somudzimai. Nekadhi rake reF anogona kufamba achitenderera pasirese.
Anongouya kuBelgium kana kuNetherlands pane visa yeSchengen. Nguva dzose anogamuchira ikoku somudzimai wapamutemo womurume wake. Izvi zvinopera kana asvika nekuti haabude munyika mushure memwedzi mitatu. Hapana chakaipa apa.
Ndinozviziva sei izvi? Nekuti mukadzi wangu achangobva kugamuchira F kadhi rake nezuro uye takaita izvi. Hapana chakaoma pazviri, mwedzi mitanhatu ichapfuura pasina nguva. Kutonhora chete ndiko kwaiodza mwoyo zvikuru.
Ndakakanganwa kutaura, hapana kosi yekubatanidza yakabatanidzwa.