Mubvunzo wemuverengi: Nyoresa muchato muThailand?

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July 12 2013

Vadiwa vaverengi,

Tine mubvunzo: Mudzimai wangu wekuThai achazova nematambudziko here mushure mekunyora muchato wedu muThailand?

Isu (mudzimai wangu weThai neni) tave tichigara muNetherlands kweanoda kusvika makore gumi uye tave takaroorana kweanopfuura makore 10. Takaroorana zviri pamutemo muNetherlands. Zvino ndinodawo kunyoresa muchato wedu muThailand, kuti takaroorana zviri pamutemo ikoko zvakare.

Mudzimai wangu anotya kuti kana tikaita izvi ndikafa, somuenzaniso, angapinda mudambudziko muThailand. Anobva aonekwa se "falang". Anotya kuti acharasikirwawo nerudzi rwake rweThai. Iye zvino ane Dutch uye Thai nyika.

Ndiani angatibatsira neizvi?

Ndakaperera,

ChiFrench

44 mhinduro ku "Muverengi mubvunzo: Kunyoresa muchato muThailand?"

  1. Dennis anoti kumusoro

    Mukadzi wako anongorasikirwa nerudzi rwake rweThai kana akakumbira izvi kubva kuhurumende yeThai. Handifungi kuti vanhu vazhinji vanoita izvi uye kana vachidaro, kazhinji imhaka yekuti kana zvisina kudaro havagone kutora imwe nyika.

    Ini ndaizobata ese ari maviri embassy yeThai muNetherlands uye nemumiriri weDutch muBangkok. Kunyangwe kazhinji iri imwe nzira kutenderedza (nyoresa muchato weThai muNL pachinzvimbo chemuchato weDutch muThailand) hausi iwe wekutanga uye vanogona kukuudza chaizvo zvekuita. Pamwe (chaizvoizvo 1% chokwadi) gwaro rechiDutch (s) richafanirwa kushandurirwa muchiRungu (muNetherlands) uye kunyoreswa zviri pamutemo (nemumiriri weDutch) uye rozoshandurirwa kuThai uye kunyoreswa zviri pamutemo (neThai Ministry of Foreign Affairs) .

    Zvose zvinotora nguva nemari, asi ndiyo nzira yazvinoenda nayo.

  2. Gert Boonstra anoti kumusoro

    Ndanga ndichigara muChiang Mai nemusikana wangu kwemakore gumi nemaviri. Kuti aite zviri pamutemo kwaari, ndakamuroora kumphur muna Zvita 12. Hapana dambudziko, ndaifanira kungopa chirevo chekuti handina kuroora muNetherlands. Uye kufunga kuti idambudziko kwauri. Asi huya kuThailand pazororo uye ucharoora muWat. MuThai anowanzo koshesa kukosha kune izvi pane muchato wehurumende.

  3. rutsigiro anoti kumusoro

    Dual nationality harisi dambudziko. Mudzimai wako angave akachenjera kunyorera ID kadhi muNetherlands - kuwedzera kune pasipoti. Ipapo anogona kushandisa pasipoti yake yeThai + Dutch ID kadhi paanobva kuThailand achienda kuNetherlands. Uye shandisa Netherlands mukati / kubva kuDutch pasipoti yake.
    Ipapo anogona kugara muThailand chero nguva yaanoda uye izvo zvinomuchengetera TBH 2.000 mari yekubuda/yekupindazve.
    Musikana wangu ave nemakore achiita izvi.

    Thailand haiite nyaya yehuviri nyika uye ichadzora nyika yeThai kana ikakumbirwa.

  4. Michael anoti kumusoro

    Zvakanakisisa,
    Nezvenyaya iyi, ini ndinewo mibvunzo nezve izvi, kana kuti zvimwe mumwe munhu anogona kundipa zvakanaka zvinongedzo / matipi maererano nemuchato muThailand.

    Chii chakanaka

    1) Kuroora zviri pamutemo muThailand kana muNetherlands
    2) Kana iwe ukachata muThailand (nezve kodzero dzevanhu veThai), unonyoresa muchato muThailand? Kuchenjera here kuita izvi?
    3) Kana iwe ukaroora, izvi zvine mhedzisiro kuThai kana akatora zita remurume sesurname (zvakare remangwana rine nyika / kodzero) nezvimwe.
    4) PS mushure mekuroorana ndinoda kugara muNetherlands naye (asi ini handidi mamwe mashoko pamusoro peizvi, nokuti ndine zvakakwana ...)

    Unoda kunzwa. Ndinokutendai mberi!

    • KhunRudolf anoti kumusoro

      Wadiwa Michael,

      Hazvigoneke kupa mhinduro isina kujeka kumibvunzo yako nekuti rumwe ruzivo rwakashaikwa: semuenzaniso maererano nemubvunzo 1- Unoda kuroora pasi pemutemo weThai kana wechiDutch?
      Semuenzaniso, haugone kuroora pasi pemutemo weDutch muThailand. Kubva 1 Ndira 2012 hazvichagoneke kuroora kuDutch Embassy.

      Unorevei chaizvo nemubvunzo wechi2? Mushure mezvose, kana iwe ukachata muThailand, imba yako ichanyoreswa muThailand. Mushure mekunyoreswa zviri pamutemo, nezvimwewo, iwe wobva wanyoresa muchato uyu muNetherlands. Inyaya yeshanduro, zvitambi uye masiginicha.

      Ad question 3: Mukadzi wangu wekuThai anga aine surname yangu kwemakore, izvi zvakashandurirwa muchiThai, zvakataurwa mupasipoti yake yeThai, paThai ID yake, iro zita raakanyoreswa mune akawanda manejimendi akadai sekanzuru, homwe yeinishuwarenzi yehutano. , rezinesi rekutyaira, nezvimwewo. Hazvina basa zvachose nekodzero dzake muThailand. Anodadisa uye anoisa siginicha yake, saka zita rangu rechiThai rakadudzira surname, pasi pemapepa akawanda. Kune nyaya dzakawanda dzechiIndia mukutaura kwevazhinji vanofunga kuti vaona mbama yakarembera pane imwe nzvimbo. Kune vanoona vakawanda vachirova maoko, kunyanya avo!

      Pakupedzisira, mubvunzo wechina: kana iwe ukataura kuti unoda kugara muNetherlands nemudzimai wako mushure mekuroorana kwako, ndinofunga kuti achiri kugara muThailand.
      Kana ukaronga kuroora muThailand, saka zvese zvakanaka. Ona mubvunzo 2. Usanyengerwa. Hapana chinochinja munzvimbo yepamutemo yemudzimai wako mushure mekuroora kwake kune imwe nzvimbo, kana mushure mokunge atumidzwa zita rake.
      Saka kwete kunyangwe akaenda kunogara kuNetherlands semukadzi ane zita remurume wake.
      Izvo zvinongochinja kana akazvidira kusiya nyika yake yeThai. Asi handisati ndaona muThai achiita izvozvo (zvisingareve kuti hazviitike.)

      Kwaziwai, uye rombo rakanaka, Rudolf

  5. Cees anoti kumusoro

    Anodiwa French,

    Isu (mukadzi weThai nemurume weFarang) takaroorana pasi pemutemo weDutch uye tinonyoresa muchato wedu patinotamira kuThailand. Iine mashoma mabhenefiti kwandiri: pachinzvimbo chekuisa 800.000 THB kuaccount, iri hafu iyo, 400.000 THB. Zvakare nyore kuwana visa. Iwe unogona zvakare kutenga mota muzita rako pachako, semuenzaniso, kana uine iyo yero kabhuku.
    Zvakare, hazvisi zvisingakoshi zvachose, kana muchato ukatadza, ipapo midziyo yawakavaka ipfuma yekubatana uye saka iwe unofanirwa kugovaniswa uye hauzorasikirwe nezvose iwe pachako.
    Mukadzi weThai anogara achiramba ari mukadzi wechiThai maererano nekuzivikanwa, kunze kwekunge iye pachake akanyorera kubviswa kwerudzi rwake rweThai.
    Muchidimbu, kwandiri (isu) chete zvinobatsira.
    Kwaziwai, Cees

    • BA anoti kumusoro

      Hans, sekuziva kwangu zvinokwanisika zvakare muThailand kuita chibvumirano chepamberi pemuchato chakagadzirwa negweta. Iwe wobva wasaina izvi paAphur pamwe chete negwaro remuchato.

      Musiyano nemuchato weDutch neThai ndewekuti kana ukaroora muNetherlands pasi penharaunda yemidziyo, zvese zvinoenda kune 1 tariro, kusanganisira izvo zvawaimbova nazvo. Kana iwe ukachata muThailand, pfuma inotorwa inongove yakajairika kubva pazuva rawakachata. Izvozvo zvinogona kuita musiyano mukuru. Uri kuzotenga imba mese woiisa muzita remukadzi wako, semuenzaniso. Kana iwe ukaita izvozvo usati waroora, iwe hauna kodzero yechinhu chero chipi zvacho, kana iwe ukaita izvozvo mushure mokunge waroorana, iwe uri musimboti unogara uine kodzero yehafu muchiitiko chekurambana.

      Ini handizive kuti HV muThailand inonakidza kusvika papi, nekuti zvinhu zvako zvawaive nazvo musati maroorana hazvina kugovaniswa zvakadaro. Kunze kwekunge waidzosera mumba, semuenzaniso. Pamwe nepurofiti kubva kukambani nezvimwe. Asi unotofanira kubvunza gweta nezvazvo.

  6. Erwin Fleur anoti kumusoro

    Anodiwa French
    Nyaya iyi yave nenguva yakareba ichitenderera, asi ini handizvibvume ini.
    Nokuda kweichi chikonzero ndakaroorawo mudzimai wangu wechiThai muNetherlands.
    Ini pachangu ndanga ndiri muThailand kwemakore gumi nematatu uye ndinonzwa nyaya dzinoshamisa nezve izvi.
    Kana ari chizvarwa chake cheThai, haakwanise kurasikirwa nazvo, chikonzero chimwe chete
    kuti isu hatigone kuve Thai.
    Kunyorera pasipoti yeDutch hazvikumbiri kuti usiye nyika yake yeThai (vanoda izvozvo).
    zvino kana zviri izvo iwe unongoenda kumumiriri weThai wongonyorera pasipoti nyowani (havaite nharo nezvazvo).
    Ini handisi munhu wemutemo asi ndinofunga muchawana mhinduro dzakawanda pano.Ndinovimba ndakwanisa kukubatsirai zvishoma.
    Zvakare mubvunzo wakanaka kwazvo uye ndiri kudawo kuziva kuti zvinoshanda sei chaizvo.
    Chokwadi, Erwin

    • Rob V. anoti kumusoro

      Zvigadziriso zvishoma:
      - Vanhu vekune dzimwe nyika vanogona kuita seThai, izvo zvakaoma zvikuru: mirwi yemapepa, kudhura kwakanyanya, kutanga kuwana Perminant Residence kwemakore mashoma, zvinodiwa nemitauro, chikamu chegore chevanhu zana parudzi rwekwakabva, nezvimwe.
      - MuThailand, nyika mbiri harisi dambudziko. MuNetherlands chaizvoizvo, mutemo ndewokuti iwe unogona kungova ne1 nyika kunze kwekuti iwe 1) kutora nyika dzevabereki vako 2) haugoni kuramba nyika yako yekare 3) wakaroorwa nemunhu wechiDutch. 4) Pane kufarira kunoshamisa (kukanganisa) sekurasikirwa kwekodzero dzenhaka, ivhu, nezvimwewo, izvo zvingaite kuti zvisanzwisisika kuti usiye nyika yako yekare.

      Saka, sekuona kwangu, hapana chakaipa nekuva nemarudzi maviri. Iniwo hapana chandinowana pamusoro pezvakaipira kuroora mutorwa. KuNetherlands izvo hazvina basa, uye handisati ndambonzwa kuti vanhu veThai vangarasikirwa nekodzero dzavo kana vakaroora mutorwa. Iwe une murayiro wenhakazve here? Mutorwa haafaniri kuva nenyika muzita rake, naizvozvo haangagoni kugara nhaka? Asi izvozvo hazvina chokuita zvakananga neroorano kana kuti nyika mbiri.

      Mubvunzo wakakosha unoramba uripo: Zviri nani here kutanga waroora muThailand uye wozozvinyoresa muNetherlands? Kana kuti tanga waroora muNetherlands wobva waita kuti inyoreswe muThailand. Handifungi kuti zvakafanana, dambudziko rimwe chete nekushandura uye kunyoreswa kwezviito kuitira kuti vanyoreswe mhiri kwemakungwa. Ini ndinogara muNetherlands nemusikana wangu, saka kana tikachata, chirongwa ndechekuchinyoresa muThailand mushure (rini??) zvakare. Pasi pemutemo weDutch, anongochengeta zita rake remhandara, saka hapana kunetseka nazvo, anogona kungonyepedzera kunge (chaizvo) Thai muThailand ane nyika yeThai, zita, nezvimwe.

  7. Bacchus anoti kumusoro

    Nei zvakaoma kudaro? Iwe unogona kuroora pamberi pemutemo muNetherlands uye gare gare zvakare kuroora pamberi pemutemo muThailand. Sei uchinyoresa muchato wako muNetherlands muThailand? Ingoroora munyika dzese, iwewo une bato kaviri! Kunze kweizvozvo hapana matambudziko, nekuti hapana mumwe munhu anoziva.

    Mudzimai wangu ane chizvarwa cheThai nechiDutch. Passports kubva kunyika mbiri. Hazvina kumbobvunzwa chero kupi zvako kubvisa chero rudzi. Mwedzi miviri yapfuura, pasipoti itsva yechiDutch yakakumbirwa kumumiriri muBangkok. Hapana dambudziko. Kunyoreswa kwevhu hakuna dambudziko.

    Usaite kuti zviome kupfuura zvazviri!

    • Michael anoti kumusoro

      Bacchus, ndinoshamisikawo kuti vakuru vese vane ngano idzi vanobvepi. Ndakaroorwa zviri pamutemo muThailand uye ndakanyoresawo muNetherlands. mukadzi wangu ane zita rangu uye isu tine pfuma muThailand kwemakore 7 pasina dambudziko. Isu tinogara muNetherlands.
      Kunyoreswa kwevhu hakusiwo dambudziko.

    • KhunRudolf anoti kumusoro

      Kuroora kaviri pamberi pemutemo zvakare haisi nyaya muThailand (kunyangwe paine avo vanofara kuramba vachiseka zvese zviri kuitika.)
      Kana iwe uchida kuroora muThailand, unofanirwa kuendesa chirevo kubva kuGBA chinotaura kuti hauna kuroora. Pamwe pacho panoti wakaroora.
      Kana wanyatsoda party roora before Bhuda. Zvakaongwa zvikuru!

    • Maikel.P anoti kumusoro

      Mhoro Bachus,

      Zvandichakabatirira nazvo. takarooranawo zviri pamutemo zvose muThailand uye muNetherlands. Tine zvivakwa muThailand.
      Mukadzi wangu ane pasipoti yake yeThai. Idambudziko here kana aine Dutch passport nekuda kwedu.
      Chii chatingaite kuti tive nechokwadi chekuti Dutch nat. kukumbira.

      Thanks in advance nemhinduro yako

      • Rob V. anoti kumusoro

        Ingokumbira. Sekune imwe nzvimbo mumhinduro yevaviri Bacchus neni, Netherlands kazhinji haibvumire nyika mbiri, asi pane zvisizvo: - kuburikidza nekuzvarwa kubva kuvabereki, inogona kutora nyika kubva kwavari, - nekuroora murume wechiDutch, mutorwa. anogona kuchengeta nyika yake uye Dutchman anogona kutora nyika yemumwe wake achichengeta chiDutch (chicherechedzo kuti hazvigoneke kuita chiThai, asi zvinogoneka), - kana paine kurasikirwa kusingaenzaniswi sekurasikirwa kwekodzero yenhaka, nyika. , nezvimwewo.
        Saka mudzimai wako anogona kungozvigadzirisa kana akagara muNetherlands kwemakore matatu (Rutte 3 anoda kuita makore manomwe, chiyero ikozvino makore mashanu) uye akabatanidzwa.

        Zie ok: http://www.rijksoverheid.nl/onderwerpen/nederlandse-nationaliteit/dubbele-nationaliteit uye kune nyanzvi neruzivo neruzivo rwe, pakati pevamwe, magweta: http://www.buitenlandsepartner.nl .

        Kune kodzero dzake muThailand hazvina basa. Thailand inobvumira iyo DN. Saka anogona kuramba achitenga nzvimbo. Anongoonekwa seThai saThaksin naAbhisit nemarudzi avo mazhinji.
        Mune mhinduro yekutanga ndakatora iyo Nationality Act ye2008 asi ine link isiriyo. Heino chaiyo !!!!
        http://www.refworld.org/pdfid/4a54695f2.pdf

  8. Jan Veenman anoti kumusoro

    ingogara wakaroora muNetherlands uye rega mukadzi wako achengete dzinza reThai nguva dzese.Muchiitiko cherufu, anogona kunzi Farang, zvinoreva kuti haakwanise kugara nhaka yenhaka muThailand. Kunze kweizvozvo, chenjera nekuti muThailand mimwe mitemo inongoerekana yashandurwa kuita iyo yakaipa.
    Ita wiri negweta rakanaka, izvo zvinodzivirira dambudziko rakawanda.
    Kana wakave nehupenyu hwakanaka nemumwe wako, unoda kumusiya achichengetwa zvakanaka !!!!!!!!!!!! Kana kuti kwete??????????
    Johnny

    • KhunRudolf anoti kumusoro

      Anodiwa Jan Veenman,

      Ichokwadi chakanyanya kwauri kuti udeedze kuti mudzimai asare achichengetwa zvakanaka kana afa. Ndinobvumirana. Nekudaro, kana ukafa, handizvo kuti mukadzi wako wekuThai anoerekana aonekwa seasiri. Zvinhu zviviri izvozvo hazvinei nazvo. Haafanire kunetseka nezvekupinda mudambudziko nechero nhaka muThailand.

      Kwaziwai, Rudolf

  9. Michael anoti kumusoro

    Hi Bacchus,

    Ungaroora sei munyika mbiri idzi?
    Kana iwe wakatoroora muNetherlands, iwe uchiri kufanira kuunza mapepa ekuti hauna kuroora maererano nemamiriro ewanano. Kana kuti unogona kungoroora zvakare iwe wakatoroora?

    Kana iwe ukachata muNetherlands, mumwe munhu anoziva kuti zvichatora nguva yakareba sei usati wagamuchira (pamwe yenyika) chitupa chemuchato. Iyi mwedzi yebasa here, kana kuti mazuva ebasa?

    Kana ndikaverenga zvese seizvi uye musikana / mukadzi wangu achigara muNetherlands, saka chinhu chiri pachena chekuita ndechekuroora muNetherlands. Nekuti negwaro remuchato rinoshanda zviri pamutemo muBelgium kana Germany. Ndizvo here? BVD

    • Bacchus anoti kumusoro

      Ingori nyaya yekuronga zvakanaka. Kutanga nyorera humbowo hwekuroora, wozoroora kuNetherlands uyezve muThailand (kana zvinopesana) mukati menguva yakatarwa zviri pamutemo.

      Kuve nenyika mbiri seThai kunorambidzwa nemutemo. Kana vakadzi vakaroora mutorwa, vanorasikirwa nerudzi rwavo rweThai musimboti. Muchiitiko cherufu kana kurambana kwevavakaroorana navo, vanogona kunyorera zvakare kurudzi rweThai. Izvi zvakare zvakaiswa mumutemo.

      Mukadzi wangu ane nyika mbiri (kunyangwe akaroora) uye tinoziva vamwe vakadzi vane nyika mbiri. Hapana kana mumwe wavo akambova nedambudziko. Chokwadi ichi hachisi vimbiso yenguva yemberi. Ini handifunge kuti hurumende yeThai inobatsirikana nekudzoreredza nyika kana kugona kwayo.

      • KhunRudolf anoti kumusoro

        Wadiwa Bacchus, uri kuenda kure zvachose pano mu3 ndima. Ini handina kujaira iwe, kupihwa yako yapfuura yakakomba (er) mhinduro kune dzakawanda kutumira.

        Kana iwe uine kudhindwa kweGBA kubva usati waroora, roora zviri pamutemo muNetherlands, wobva waenda kuThailand maererano nehurongwa, uye unoroora ikoko neiyo yakakodzera GBA kudhindwa, iyo yave yechinyakare uye isisina chokwadi uye unoita izvozvo uchiziva, zvino kutaura zvinyoro, izvo hazviratidziki kwandiri senzira yakanaka yekuita. Criminal even?

        Izvo zvakare hazvinzwisisike kuti iwe unotaura kuti vakadzi vanorasikirwa nerudzi rwavo rweThai mushure mekuroora mutorwa, uye kuti vanogona kudzoreredza iyi nyika yeThai mushure mekurambana kana kufa kwemurume. Hazvina musoro! Neraki, iwe unobva waramba chirevo chako pachako nekutaura nezvemukadzi wako (nevamwe).

        Kwaziwai, Rudolf

        • Bacchus anoti kumusoro

          Wadiwa Khan Rudolf,

          Iwe wakarurama, izvo zvandinonyora mundima yekutanga haisi iyo nzira yakarurama. Ini ndinokahadzika zvakanyanya kuti zvinorangwa nekuti unoroora munhu mumwe chete munyika mbiri idzi. Saka hapana mubvunzo wekubiridzira, kunyanya kushaya hanya. Ndakanyora izvi nemaune nekuti vanhu vanogara vachiona mapere akawanda munzira, sezvandakataurawo mumhinduro yangu yapfuura.

          Nezve nyika mbiri, pazasi pane chinyorwa kubva kumutemo weThai.

          UPARIDZI: Mitemo yevagari vemunyika yakavakirwa paNationality Act ye1965 ine Amendment No.2 AD 1992 uye Amendment No.3 AD 1993.

          VANHU VAVIRI: HAZVIZVINHU ZVINHU. Kunze:

          Mwana akaberekerwa kunze kwenyika kuvabereki veThai, vanowana hugari hwenyika yekune imwe nyika yekuzvarwa, vanogona kuchengetedza vagari vaviri kusvika vasvika zera reruzhinji (18). Panguva iyi, munhu anofanira kusarudza kuti ndeupi mugari wemugari wenyika.

          Mukadzi wekuThai anoroorwa nemutorwa uye akawana hukama hwemurume wake arasikirwa nehunyanzvi hwekuva mugari weThai. Kana muchato ukapera nerufu kana kurambana, mukadzi werudzi rweThai anogona kuwanazve mugari weThai. Uhwu ndihwo husiri pamutemo huviri hwakagadzirirwa kuchengetedza zvizvarwa zveThailand zvechikadzi.

          Ichi chinyorwa chekupedzisira pamwe ndicho chikonzero zvakare nei hurumende yeThai isiri kufambira mberi kuti itarise zvese uye pamwe kubvisa nyika zvisiri pamutemo.

          Ndosaka mukadzi wangu aine 2 nyika uye 2 mapasipoti. Kuita kuti zvinyanye kuoma kana kunakidza; 2 mapasipoti ane mazita akasiyana, sezvo isu tisina kuroora muNetherlands uye isu tiri muThailand.

          Saka kubhururuka kubva pakona hakuna kunyanya kushata, kana kuti pane chandapotsa?

          Ndatenda nekukodzera mamwe macomments angu. Hazvisiwo muhunhu hwangu kutengesa zvisina maturo, kunyangwe ndinogona kuita izvi dzimwe nguva, ndichiziva kana kwete. Izvi zvine chekuita nekunetsekana kwemaitiro dzimwe nguva.

          • KhunRudolf anoti kumusoro

            Anodiwa Bacchus akashinga,

            Zvinyorwa zviviri zvekupedzisira: 1. Mutsara uyu: “Mukadzi weThai anoroorwa nechizvarwa chekune imwe nyika owana hugari hwemurume wake…….”, zvinoreva: “Mukadzi weThai anoroorwa nemutorwa owana chizvarwa chake…….”! Mavara acho anoreva chiitiko chiripo, kwete kungotora chete. Saka, chinyorwa hachitauri kuti mukadzi weThai anowana dzinza remurume nekumuroora. Nezvinyorwa zvakaita seizvi, zvakakosha kuve neruzivo rwakawanda rwechiRungu nemutemo kana tasvika pakuturikira. Kana izvi zvisipo, usape tsananguro nekuti zvinokonzeresa kusanzwisisana uye kusagadzikana.

            Pakupedzisira, nokuti unoikumbira: 2. kana wakaroorana zviri pamutemo muThailand, saka unosungirwa nemutemo kuti uzviratidze pakounda yehofisi yako yemanisipala apo iwe nomudzimai wako mauya kuzogara muNetherlands sevakaroorana. Kana iwe wakaroora zviri pamutemo muThailand, iwe wakaroora zviri pamutemo muNetherlands uye unofanirwa kunyoresa muchato wako. Hameno kuti sei uye nei?
            (Kunze kwekunge wakachatira Bhudah kuThailand, asi nhaurirano yese inotopfuura iwe.)

            Ndinovimba ndine mapere mashoma kubva munzira yako!

            Kwaziwai, Rudolf

            Moderator: Uri kutaura. Ndapota pedzisai hurukuro iyi.

            • Bacchus anoti kumusoro

              Uye zvino izvi kuratidza kuti Dutch bureaucracy inoshanda sei. Ndakaroorwa zviri pamutemo muThailand. Ini ndaida kunyoresa izvi muNetherlands makore apfuura, sezvinodiwa kana uchigara ikoko. Kaviri ndakakumbirwa mamwe mapepa kuti ndionekwe. Kechipiri ndakabvunza kana vaizondidzorera mari yangu yekufambisa kuenda kuThailand uye mari yaizobhadharwa ikoko. Saka havana kudaro, ndakawanawo mhinduro. Ndakabva ndangosiya zvakadaro. Hapana chandakanzwa, handina kumboona chinhu zvakare. Ndinofunga zvakakosha chete kumutemo wenhaka.

              Moderator: Inoshandawo kwauri, yave kutanga kuita senge kutaura manje. Ndapota vhara hurukuro.

          • Bacchus anoti kumusoro

            Moderator, ndokumbirawo mujekese kusajeka, zvikasadaro vanhu havanzwisise ruzivo rwune chinangwa chakanaka.

            Mutemo unoti:
            Nyika mbiri dzisingazivikanwe, kunze kwevakadzi vanowana imwe nyika kuburikidza nekuroora nemutorwa (anoshanda kana asingaiti?). Kana muchato ukapera nekuda kwerufu kana kurambana, mukadzi anogona kunyorera zvakare chizvarwa chake cheThai. Ichi chiziviso chisiri pamutemo chevagari vaviri chakagadzirirwa kuchengetedza zvizvarwa zveThailand zvechikadzi.

            Kusvika pakudaro.

          • Rob V. anoti kumusoro

            Wadiwa Bachus, chinyorwa ichocho chine makore mangani? Icho chokwadi chekuti mukadzi weThai chete anotaurwa chinoratidza kuti mutemo wechinyakare uye wechinyakare, sezvakataurwa mu "Thailand's Nationality Act BE 2508 yakagadziridzwa neMabasa BE 2535 Nha. 2 uye 3 (1992)" inongotaura nezvemukadzi weThai, asi mumutemo wenyika wa2008 nezve "murume kana mukadzi".

            Nationality Act, (No.4), BE 2551 (=gore 2008)
            Chitsauko 2. Kurasikirwa kweThai Nationality.
            (...)
            13 chikamu.
            Murume kana mukadzi wekuThai anoroora mutorwa uye anogona kuwana dzinza remukadzi kana murume maererano nemutemo werudzi rwemukadzi wake.
            kana murume wake anogona, Kana achida kuramba chizvarwa cheThai, ataure chinangwa chake pamberi pemukuru ane hunyanzvi maererano nefomu uye nenzira yakatemwa muMitemo yeMinister.

            Kunobva: http://www.refworld.org/pdfid/506c08862.pdf

            Ndima iyi inokurumidza kuratidza kuti muThai (m/f) anogona kuramba dzinza reThai kana achiroora mutorwa, asi hazvidiwi kudaro. Nyika mbiri dzinogona kuchengetwa uye nekudaro kodzero. Kuve nemuchato wako weNL-TH wakanyoreswa muThailand hazvifanire kureva kukanganisa kwaFrans kana mukadzi wake. Saka vanogona kungonyoresa muchato muThailand.

            • Bacchus anoti kumusoro

              Wadiwa Rob, zvechokwadi une imwe yazvino vhezheni. Ndakashandisa mushumo kubva kuHurumende yeUS pamusoro pemitemo (yepasi rose) yevagari vemunyika kubva muna 2001. Uyezve, pandakaverenga chinyorwa chako, kunze kwekuwedzera kodzero dzakafanana dzevarume, zvishoma zvachinja maererano nezviri pamutemo.

              Nenzira, ndinokutendai nekunongedza izvi. Ini dzimwe nguva ndinoshandisa rudzi urwu rweruzivo kune zvimwe zvinangwa.

          • BA anoti kumusoro

            Mwari ainzi Bacchus,

            Pamwe ndiri kuverenga pamusoro pazvo, asi ndiri kurasikirwa nemaitiro.

            Zvichida munhu weThai anofanira kusiya nyika yake nemutemo, asi kana ukaroora muNetherlands, izvo hazvina zvakawanda zvekuita nerudzi. Kana ane mvumo yekugara, unogona kuroora muNetherlands, asi haasi mugari wechiDutch nokuda kwekubatanidzwa kwake, kunyange zvazvo achigara muNetherlands. Saka haatombofanire kusiya nyika yake yeThai kana aroora, nekuti izvo zvaizomuita kuti asave nenyika.

            Izvi zvingave zvakakosha kana akanyorera chizvarwa cheDutch mushure memakore mashoma, kwete nekukurumidza.

            • Bacchus anoti kumusoro

              Wadiwa BA, zvaunotaura ndezvechokwadi. MuNetherlands hazvidikanwi kusiya nyika yako pakuroora. Zvisinei, kune nyika, kunyanya nyika dzeArabhu (Muslim), apo semutorwa haugoni kuroora mugari kana iwe usingateveri chitendero chimwe chete kana kuva nerudzi rwakafanana.

              Kubva 1997, mutemo we Naturalization muNetherlands unoti dzimwe nyika dzinofanira kurambwa kana uchinyorera nyika yechiDutch. Nekudaro, zvakawanda zvisiri izvo zvakaiswa mumutemo mumwechete, semuenzaniso kana nyika yekwakabva isingatenderi izvi kana, semuenzaniso, izvi zvinoguma nekurasikirwa kukuru kwemari nekuda kwekurasikirwa kwepfuma (sezvinogoneka muThailand). MuNetherlands, nhamba yemarudzi akawanda saka ichiri kuwedzera, pasinei nemutemo uyu.

      • Renevan anoti kumusoro

        Ndakaroora muThai muThailand uye achiri muThai 100 muzana. Izvo hazvina musoro kuti anorasikirwa nerudzi rwake rweThai. Tinogona kunyoresa muchato uyu muNetherlands. Kuroora kaviri hakuna mubvunzo kunze kwekunge kuri kuchechi. Paakada kutora surname yangu akabva audzwa kuti zvairevei. Pakati pezvimwe zvinhu, imba yake nezvimedu zvemunda zvaanazvo, pasipoti, chitupa, makadhi ekubhanga, rezinesi rekutyaira nezvimwe zvisingadi kugadziriswa. Saka takangotarisa izvi. Nokuroorwa nomutorwa, anoramba aine maruramiro mamwe chetewo. Uye handisati ndave nekodzero. Wiri haifanire kunyorwa negweta. Achaziva chete izvo zvinofanirwa kuverengerwa nenzira kwayo.

      • Bacchus anoti kumusoro

        Anodiwa Hans,
        Wagona kutaura kuti nzira yandiri kutaura inogona kunge isiri yechokwadi zvachose. Zvisinei, hapana shura, sezvaunotaura, sezvo iwe uchiroora mukadzi mumwe chete! Iwe unongozviita munyika mbiri dzakasiyana. Haisi kuita seine dambudziko sezvandinoratidzika kwandiri.

        Nenguva yepamutemo handirevi nguva pakati pemichato ye2, asi nguva iyo magwaro anoramba ari pamutemo uye saka anoshandiswa.

        Nezve nyika mbiri, ndinoreva mhinduro yangu kuna Khun Rudolf apo pandinotaura chikamu chemutemo mune izvi. Izvi zvinoratidza kuti vagari vemunyika mbiri kana vakawanda hazvizivikanwe.

  10. Jacob anoti kumusoro

    Takaroorana zviri pamutemo muNL, asi mudzimai wangu akachengeta zita rake rekupedzisira.

    Isu tinogara kuThailand uye takanyoresa muchato muThailand. Handichayeuki kuti sei, asi nyika yemudzimai wangu inoramba iri pazita rake reumhandara uye ndizvo zvakaitawo chitupa chake.

    Saka anogonawo kutenga nzvimbo, kana ndikaita mari yacho, muzita remhuri yake.

  11. KhunRudolf anoti kumusoro

    Wadiwa Tjamuk,

    Mukadzi akaroorwa nemurume wechiDutch haanawo kurasikirwa nekodzero dzake munguva yakapfuura, mushure mekunyoresa muchato iwoyo muThailand. Murikuita manyepo apa nekuvhiringa izwi rekuti muchato nechirevo cherudzi. Mwanasikana wako saka anogona kuramba achitenga imwe nzvimbo. Haana kurasikirwa nenyika yake yeThai kuburikidza nekuroora kwake kune imwe nyika. Kwete kunyange nekunyoresa muchato iwoyo muThailand. Kunze kwekunge asiya nyika yake yeThai iye pachake.

    Kana iri hanzvadzi yomuvakidzani wako mhiri kwomugwagwa akaroorwa nomuJapani: akatenga munda ndokuuisa muzita revana vomuvakidzani. Muchidimbu: mainini vanotengera vana vehanzvadzi/vazukuru vavo nzvimbo. Zvinei nazvo pakuroora kwake nemuJapan??? Anongova netsitsi huru kuvana ivavo!

    Mubvunzo waFrans ndowokuti mudzimai wake achava nezvinetso pashure here kana vakanyoresa muchato wavo muThailand? Iwe unopindura mubvunzo iwoyo nemubvunzo wekupikisa pamusoro pekubatsira kwekunyoresa. Ndinofunga kuti Frans pachake ndiye anosarudza zvine musoro kwaari.

    Nezvekuve nenyika mbiri, ichokwadi kuti kuva nahwo hakuzopere nekukurumidza: handiyo iyo pfungwa zvachose. Kunyoreswa kwe dual nationality kuri kukurukurwa. Kuve nenyika mbiri kunoenderera, semuenzaniso nekuzvarwa. Kana kuburikidza nemakosi uye bvunzo uye kuwana pasipoti yeDutch. Chii chinoshanduka ndechekuti kanzuru haichanyorese nyika dzese mugwaro rekuzvarwa resp. GBA. Mumwe munhu achakumbirwa kusarudza. Asi vanochengeta ese mapasipoti/nyika. Ndizvo zvazviri, uye kwete zvimwe. Uyezve hakusi kure zvakadaro.

    • KhunRudolf anoti kumusoro

      Kuna ani kana kuti chii uye kakawanda sei mumwe munhu anoita sarudzo yake uye rusununguko. Chinokosha ndechekuti ruzivo rwechokwadi rwunopihwa. Izvi zvinoreva kuti kwete netsanangudzo zviitiko zviviri zvinogona kubatanidzwa kune chimwe nechimwe. Uye zvechokwadi kwete muThailand. Zvinokunzvenga iwe nesu kubva pakunyatso (er) kuona uye nzwisiso. Kunyangwe iwe wakagara muThailand hupenyu hwako hwese. Mamiriro emwanasikana wako wekuti haachakwanise kutenga nzvimbo muThailand ane zvimwe zvikonzero kunze kwekunge akaroorwa kune farang. Uye ndizvo zvine basa kwandiri. Maonero asina kunaka pauri.

      Uye zvakare, hapana chinhu chakadai serejista yepasi muThailand. Kune rimwe divi, 'komidien' idhipatimendi rehofisi yekanzuru yeThai uko kutengesa kwevhu nekutenga kunonyoreswa uye mutero unobhadharwa. Zvikonzero zvakawanda zvinodudzwa kuhofisi yakadai kubhadharisa Thai kubva kune zvinotevera zvikumbiro zvevakaroora pakurambana uye kufa kana neimwe nzira. Pane zvakawanda zvezvikonzero zvekusaisa kutenga nyika muzita rako pachako, asi kushandisa, semuenzaniso, nhengo yemhuri. Zvakangodaro, hapana chine chekuita nenyaya yekuti mukadzi weThai anorasikirwa nekodzero, ndoda kutadza pamutemo, mushure mekuroora mutorwa. Ndizvo zviri kukurukurwa. Ramba uri munzira!

  12. Jan Vranckx anoti kumusoro

    Ndakachata muna 2005 kuThailand ndokuita kuti zvinyoreswe zviri pamutemo muBelgium.
    Zvinhu zvese zvemukadzi wangu mu real estate (dzimba, dzimba) zvinoramba zviri 100% muzvake pasina matambudziko.
    Gore rakapera takatenga nzvimbo muChiangMai uye nekunyoreswa uku, saka mushure mekuchata naFarang, ndaifanira kusaina magwaro kuhofisi yekunyoresa muChiangmai kuti "mari" yese yaidiwa kutenga nzvimbo iyi yaibva kumudzimai wangu ZVESE, kuti ini hapana mari.
    Saka mushure mekunyoreswa muchato muThailand zvichiri kuitika kuti thai yenyika (murume kana mukadzi) achiri kukwanisa kutenga pfuma ZVINOTAURWA farang inosimbisa kuti mari yekutenga ndeye ZVESE 100% yenyika yeThai.
    Wanano yakanyoreswa dzimwe nguva inondipa zvakanakira : Yellow Tabian Ban iyo inopa kodzero yekuwana nyore nyore rezenisi rekutyaira reThai semuenzaniso uye kubhadhara mari dzekupinda dzakafanana nezvizvarwa zveThai mune DZIMWE nzvimbo.

    • rutsigiro anoti kumusoro

      Ndira,

      Ini zvakare ndine "bhuku reyero", rezinesi rekutyaira reThai uye pakuratidzwa kweiyi ndinobhadhara "Thai" mitengo pazvinokwezva, nezvimwewo. Saka kuroora hazvikodzeri kune izvozvo.

  13. Jan Vranckx anoti kumusoro

    Muridzi weNyika muThailand neThai Akaroora kune Mutorwa

    Pakave nekukakavadzana kwakawanda mumavhiki achangopfuura nezvekukodzera kwekodzero dzevaridzi venzvimbo dzezvizvarwa zveThailand zvakaroora kune vekune dzimwe nyika. Makakatanwa aya anobva pamashoko ekuti chero zvizvarwa zveThailand zvakaroora kune dzimwe nyika zvichaongororwa nevakuru vebazi reLand Department. Izvi zvinokonzerwa nekuti kodzero yavo yekuve muridzi wemba yavo inogona kushaikwa kana vakaonekwa sevakasarudzwa kune wavakaroorana naye wekune imwe nyika. Izvi zvinoratidzwa kuti ndizvo zvazviri kana nyika yeThai isingagone kuratidza kuti vane mari yakakwana mukati mekutonga kwavo kutenga.

    Nhoroondo yeMitemo yeVaridzi kune Vakaroorana vekune dzimwe nyika

    Kupa mamwe mamiriro kupfungwa iyi, kana mukadzi wekuThai achitenga nzvimbo muThailand, vaviri vacho vanofanira kupa chirevo chakanyorwa kuBazi reNyika chinotaura kuti mari yekutenga ndiyo "nzvimbo yakaparadzana" kana "pfuma yemunhu" Thai yenyika, sekutsanangurwa kwazvino muThai Civil uye Commerce Code. Izvi, muchidimbu, zvinoreva kuti mukadzi wekune imwe nyika haazove nekodzero dzemangwana kana zvikwereti kune iyi pfuma. Murairo uyu, chokwadi, wanga uripo kubvira 1999 apo Tsamba Yekuzivisa yakapihwa neBazi rezvemukati menyika uye, saka, haisi chizaruro zvachose. Vazhinji vekune dzimwe nyika muno vakaroora zvizvarwa zveThai vanonyatsoziva chinodikanwa ichi.
    Kazhinji, midziyo yese inotorwa nemurume nemukadzi mushure mewanano inonzi "pfuma yewanano" kana "pfuma yenharaunda" uye inogovaniswa zvakaenzana pakati pemurume nemukadzi kana vafa kana kurambana. Zvipo kune mumwe mukwanyina, zvisinei, zvinorangarirwa se“pfuma yakaparadzana” yomukwanyina. Zvekare, zvinonyatsozivikanwa pano kuti kutenga nzvimbo kunoonekwa se "nzvimbo yakaparadzana" kana "yemunhu pfuma" yemurume wekuThai. Izvi hazvisi izvo zvisina kujairika zvakapihwa nyaya yekuti vatorwa, kunze kwemamwe mamiriro, havagone kuva neminda muThailand.

    Nyaya Mukukakavadzana

    Saka neizvi zviri izvo, mubvunzo unoramba uripo. Sezvo ichionekwa sechipo kumukadzi wekuThai, zvingaite sezvakaoma kuti zviremera zvitaure kuti mari yakashandiswa pakutenga nzvimbo iyi yakapihwa murume wekuThai semumiriri. Zvinoita sezvisingabviri kuti mukuru wehurumende chero upi zvake aone kana mari yakadaro yakapiwa sechipo zvechokwadi kana kuti nounyengeri kuti ive yake.

    Kunze kweKuva Nezvivakwa neVatorwa Vekunze

    Mutemo unopa kuzara kwemuridzi wevhu newakaroorana weThai unoshanda kune vese vakaroorana veThai kana vatorwa, kunyangwe muchato wakaitika kune imwe nyika kana muchato uri wemutemo.
    Mutemo, zvisinei, unoshanda chete kune ivhu uye kune akati wandei kunze kwemutemo uyu:
    • Vekune dzimwe nyika vanokwanisa kuva varidzi vezvivakwa uye zvimiro zvepanyika. Izvi zvinoreva kuti kana muThai newavakaroorana naye vari kutenga nzvimbo ine imba, vaviri vacho vanogona kushanda negweta kuti vape kodzero yemutorwa kumba;
    • Vekune dzimwe nyika vanokwanisa kuva nekodzero inosvika makumi mana nepfumbamwe kubva muzana yekodzero dzemahara kudzimba dzekondomu kunze kwekunge zvakati wandei zvichizadzikiswa; uye
    • Mutorwa anogona kuva nechido chevhu nekushandisa akati wandei akanyoreswa zviridzwa zvakaita serendi, superficies, kana usufructs sezvazvinokodzera.

    Mutemo Wemutemo kuMutemo uyu

    Zvekare, chikonzero chemutemo uyu chekuvimbisa kuti varoora veThai varidzi vezana muzana renyika iripo nekuti vatorwa havawanzo kuve varidzi veminda muThailand. Kune dhigirii rexenophobia muThailand kana zvasvika kune kodzero dzevaridzi vevhu. Ichi hachina kukakavara pano sezvo zvisingashamisi munyika dzichiri kusimukira dzakaita seThailand kuchengetedza kodzero dzavo dzevhu. Mubvunzo, zvisinei, uri mukodzero yerudzi rwemugari weThai yekuve nemidziyo munyika yavo kunyangwe ndiani waangade kuroora.
    Sezvo muchato uchifanirwa kunge uri mubatanidzwa wevanhu vaviri, hazvigoneke kutaura kuti mumwe murume kana mukadzi haagone kubatsira mumwe sezvo zvichigona kuita sekunge vari kuita sevakasarudzwa. Chokwadi, mutemo muThailand, mune zvese zveCivil and Commercial Code uye Land Code, unobvumira uye unoziva pfungwa yezvipo kune mumwe. Chero pfungwa inoramba kodzero yakadaro inogona kuwanikwa chete mumamiriro ezvinhu akasiyana-siyana akadai, semuenzaniso, nyaya dzekupfumisa zvisina kufanira. Nekudaro, izvo zvinosungirwa zvekusaina tsamba yekuzivisa kuLand Hofisi inotaura kuti nzvimbo yacho ichave yakazara yeThai yenyika ichaita kuti nyaya dzakadai dziome kuratidza mune chero chiitiko. Zvingaite sekunge mukupera kwezuva, chizvarwa cheThai chichiri muridzi wevhu. Sezvo nhanho dzakakosha nevakuru dzakatotorwa kuti ive nechokwadi chekuti ndizvo zvazviri, zvinoita sekunge mweya weThai Land Code hauna kutenderedzwa munzira chero ipi zvayo kana muThai akaroora mutorwa achida kutenga pfuma nemari yavakapiwa newavakaroorana naye.

    • KhunRudolf anoti kumusoro

      Wadiwa Jan,

      Iwe unonamira chimedu chihombe chemavara muChirungu usina kutaura kwakabva mukupindura mubvunzo kana zvine mhedzisiro yakaipa kuti mukadzi weThai anyorese muchato wakapedzwa muNetherlands muThailand? Zvakadaro, chinyorwa chiri pamusoro pemuridzi wevhu. Unogona here kutaura zvaunofunga kuti kubatana kuri pakati pemubvunzo uye zvinyorwa zvemukati, uye nei wakaisa chinyorwa? Plus source reference?

      Ndatenda nekukwazisa, Rudolf

  14. Bangkokian anoti kumusoro

    Anodiwa French,

    Hapana chinochinja kumukadzi wako kana ukanyoresa muchato wako muThailand. Achachengeta nyika yake yeThai uye saka anogona kungotenga nzvimbo.
    Paunofa, nzvimbo yake yepamutemo inoramba yakafanana.

    Zvichasiyana kana akasiya nyika yake achizvidira, asi hapana anoita uye hapana anoda.

    Ini pachangu ndakaroorwa zviri pamutemo muThailand nekuda kwemutemo uye ndakave nezvose zvakashandurwa uye zvakanyoreswa zviri pamutemo uye zvakaitwa pamutemo muNetherlands. Saka ndakaroorwa zviri pamutemo muThailand neNetherlands.

    Makadii, Bangkok

  15. Tea kubva kuHuissen anoti kumusoro

    Chii chiri chokwadi ipapo, nyaya yekuti vanhu vanoti chero isati yabuda mubepanhau rehurumende haichinji mamiriro ezvinhu.

    • KhunRudolf anoti kumusoro

      Izvo ndizvo. Mitemo yeDutch uye General Administrative Measures (AMvB) inoonekwa muStaatsblad. Mukuwedzera, kumiswa, kubviswa uye zviga zvehumambo maererano nekupinda musimba remitemo zvinosanganisirwa.
      Chete mushure mekuburitswa muStaatsblad ndipo mitemo nemirau zvinotanga kushanda.
      Minister of Justice ndiye ane basa rekuburitswa kweStaatsblad.
      Izvi zvine chekuita nenyaya yekuti Mutemo unofanirwa kuziva mutemo. Nokudaro kubudiswa kwekutanga nehurumende - kubva panguva iyo mutemo unoshanda kune wese.

      • Tea kubva kuHuissen anoti kumusoro

        Ikozvino wave kutaura nezveDutch Official Gazette, asi ini ndaireva Thai Official Gazette.
        Akandiudza kuti mushure mekunge vanyoresa muchato wavo kuEmbassy yeThai. Haisi kupfuudzwa nekuti kana iri mu(Thai) Official Gazette unogona kusangana nematambudziko nekutenga ivhu nedzimwe kodzero.
        Vanhu vakachata chete naBhuda muThailand.
        Handikwanise kutaura chokwadi kana zvese ichokwadi.

  16. Michael anoti kumusoro

    Anodiwa KhunRudolf,

    Ndine musikana wekuThai uye handisati ndaroora (chimiro chekuroora: kuroora).
    Ndinoda kumuroora uye kuenda kuGermany, nokuti ndinogara pedyo nemuganhu weGermany, uye kuti ndiite nyaya refu pfupi, ndinoda kumuchengetedza dambudziko rose rekudzivisa MVV. Kana akagamuchira pasipoti yemakore mashanu yeEU muGermany, achava nenguva yakawanda yekudzidza mutauro wechiDutch uye kuona kuti zvinhu zvose zvinofamba zvakanaka, uye kuti tiri pamwe chete. Kwandiri zvinotevera zvakakosha kuita izvi zvive nyore:

    1) zviri nyore here kuroora muNetherlands pane… kana
    2) Zviri nyore kuroora muThailand.

    Neizvi ndinoreva, ese mafomu / pamutemo / shanduro, mutengo nezvimwe… ..
    Chii chaunondikurudzira kuti zviite nyore sezvinobvira kwatiri.
    Kuroora muThailand kana kuroora muNetherlands?….

    BVD uye ndinokutendai nezvese ruzivo runobatsira rwandakaverenga pano! Thx!

    • KhunRudolf anoti kumusoro

      Wadiwa Michael,

      Hazvibviri kuunza mumwe wako kuNetherlands pasina MVV. Kuti pakutanga. Iwe nemumwe wako hamugone kunzvenga izvozvo. Icho chinangwa chakanaka, asi kwete chechokwadi. Shandisa nguva yako, mari uye simba pakugadzirira kwakakwana pane hiccuping zvinopesana nemitemo. Iwe hausi kuhwina zvakadaro.
      Kana iwe uchida kuita kutsauka kuburikidza neGermany, iwe uchasangana nenyaya imwechete. Germany inomukumbirawo kuti adzidze chiGerman, uye anofanira kuratidza izvi paEmbassy yeGermany kana Consulate paanenge achitsvaga vhiza. Mushure mekubatanidzwa muGermany, unomukumbira kuti aite zvakafanana kuNetherlands. Ona saiti yeGerman Min van BUZA: http://www.auswaertiges-amt.de/DE/Infoservice/FAQ/VisumFuerD/Uebersicht.html?nn=350374

      Nezvekushandurwa uye kunyoreswa kwemapepa kune chekuita: musikana wako achafanirwa kuve nenhamba yemapepa akaturikirwa uye akanyoreswa zviri pamutemo kuti abatsire IND munguva yakafanira. Unogona kushandisa mapepa mamwe chetewo gare gare pahoro yetaundi kunyoresa roorano yako. Mari yacho yakatoitwa. Ndozvataiita ini nemudzimai wangu panguva iyoyo. Kuroora muThailand zvinoreva kuti iwe uchiri kuenda kune dzakasiyana siyana zviremera uine akati wandei magwaro emunhu. Zvinotora nguva uye mari. Uye ndiwo waive mubvunzo wako.

      Kwaziwai, Rudolf

      • Rob V. anoti kumusoro

        Izvo hazvina kunaka Rhudolf, pane chinhu chakadai seEU nzira (Belgium nzira, Germany nzira, nezvimwewo). Muchidimbu, izvi zvinoreva kuti uri kushandisa kodzero dzeEU. Izvi zvaiwanzoomesera kune vechitatu-bato (=vasiri veEU) zvizvarwa. Zvichakadaro, mutemo wenyika wakaomesera vagari vayo voga munyika yavo newavanoshamwaridzana naye. Asi nyika dzinogona kumanikidza zvakaomesesa zvinodiwa kuvanhu vadzo, vekuEurope (chero ani asina nyika yeEU nyika iri kutaurwa) "vanodzivirirwa" nezvibvumirano izvi zveEU. Kana iwe, semugari wechiDutch, uchigara mhiri kwemuganhu muBelgium, semuenzaniso, haufanirwe kusangana nemari yeDutch, kubatanidzwa uye zvimwe zvinodiwa. Mamwe mashoko pa http://www.buitenlandsepartner.nl pasi pechikamu Belgium nzira (manual).

        Asi tave kutsauka kubva padingindira manje. Ini ndichazvisiya pakururamisa kwakakosha uku kana moderator achitendera.

        Iwe unogona kuroora muNetherlands paVhiza Yenguva pfupi, asi iwe unofanirwa kugogodza pamusuwo wekanzuru nenguva nekuti ivo vachafanira kuita muchato weM46 zviri nyore. Izvi zvinogona kutora kusvika kumwedzi miviri (pepa mill civil affairs, IND, Aliens Police). Saka zivisa maneja ako nenguva yakanaka! Iwe unogona kugara paVKV kwemazuva anokwana makumi mapfumbamwe.
        Kuroora muThailand kunogoneka zvakare, saka iwe unogona zvakare kuita kuti muchato unyorese muNetherlands mushure (ivo vanoitawo M46 sham yekuroora kuongororwa) uye wozonyora izvi naLandelijke Yakatorwa muHague. Ipapo iwe unogona kugara uchikumbira gwaro nyowani kubva kuThe Hague. Nemagwaro aya, kana kuti Thai (yakaturikirwa uye yakanyoreswa zviri pamutemo kuChirungu) unogona zvakare kuratidza muchato wako muGermany, pakati pezvimwe. Kuti uwane ruzivo ona bhuku rekushandisa reBelgium. Ini handina ruzivo saka kuti uwane ruzivo unofanirwa kutarisa kune yakataurwa kero yewebhu. Rombo rakanaka!

        • KhunRudolf anoti kumusoro

          Mutevedzeri anodiwa, mhinduro yekupedzisira kupedzisa nyaya!

          Beats. Iyo Belgium (kana Germany - kana EU -) nzira inogoneka. Kukanganisa kweiyi nzira kungave kuti vakuru venzvimbo havazive nezvemitemo yeEurope. Kunyange iri nzira iri nyore mudzidziso, inogona kunetsa nekuda kwekushaya ruzivo kune chikamu chemukuru wenyaya. Kune hurumende (kusanganisira Netherlands) dzinoshandisa mutemo wekuodza mwoyo uye hazviiti kuti zvive nyore kune vashandisi veEU nzira, kunyange izvi zvinopesana nemitemo yeEurope.
          Zvinozivikanwa muNetherlands kuti IND, sedare repamusoro, inoteedzera mutemo unoshanda wekuodza moyo

          Zvose mune zvose, nzira yakadaro haisi nyore. Iwe unofanirwa kunge wakaroora, unofanirwa kurenda imba, unofanirwa kugaramo kwenguva yakareba, 6 kusvika 8 mwedzi, shuma kuGerman immigration service uye nyorera mvumo yekugara kune mumwe wako. Kune izvi iwe unofanirwa kuratidza kuti une mari yakakwana, ita kuti gwaro rako remuchato rishandurwe uye rinyorerwe uye uite kuti mumwe wako apihwe inishuwarenzi.
          Uyezve kurwa neIND.

          Zvisinei rombo rakanaka uye simba. Kwaziwai, Ruud


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