Tsanangudzo yeKuongorora Hutano - Chikamu 1
Sezvineiwo, hupenyu hwaCharly huzere nezvinoshamisa zvinoshamisa (zvinosuruvarisa kuti dzimwe nguva zvakare zvisinganakidze). Kwemakore akati wandei achigara nemukadzi wake weThai Teoy munzvimbo yekutandarira isiri kure neUdonthani. Munyaya dzake, Charly anonyanya kuedza kusimudzira ruzivo rweUdon, asi anokurukurawo zvimwe zvinhu zvakawanda muThailand. Anopawo tarisiro yechiitiko chake muThailand.
Tsanangudzo yeKuongorora Hutano - Chikamu 1
Munhu wose anofanira kutarisana nazvo pane imwe nguva. Kungave uku kupindura kune zvimwe zvichemo uye kuona kuti zvichemo izvozvo zvinobva kupi, kana kugadzirira kuvhiyiwa, kana kuongororwa nguva nenguva (semuenzaniso kana uine chirwere cheshuga) kana nekuda kwekuti unoda kuziva mamiriro ezvinhu. umo muviri wako uri.
Muchiitiko chekupedzisira tinotaura nezvekuongororwa kwemuviri kana kuongorora hutano. Nhamba yemabasa emuviri inoyerwa uye inonyorwa muhukoshi. Ndakaongororwa kekupedzisira muna 2014, kuNetherlands. Ndisati ndagara muThailand. Chokwadi, kuziva kuti muviri wangu wanga wakamira sei. Nekukwanisa kuita chimwe chinhu pamusoro payo muNetherlands kana paine zvisizvo zvakaonekwa. Sezvineiwo, hapana chakaipa chakabuda mumuedzo iwoyo panguva iyoyo.
Mwedzi uno, makore matanhatu gare gare, ndinoda kuita bvunzo dzeMurume Mukuru, sekudaidza kwavanozviita, kunoitwa kuBangkok Hospital muUdon Thani. Pamwe nekuda kwekushaikwa kwevatori vechikamu vakakwana panguva ino, bvunzo iyi inopihwa kune isingaite isingaite ye17.500 baht, kana nezve euro 500. Kazhinji bvunzo iyi inodhura 31.000 baht (885 euros).
Panguva ino ndaida kunyatsogadzirira bvunzo uye nechikonzero ichocho ndakaita zvinhu zviviri. Chekutanga, ndakatarisa pfungwa dzese dzekurapa dzebvunzo dzine chekuita nebvunzo uye chechipiri, ndakakumbira kubvunzana kwegadziriro nachiremba uyo achaitwa bvunzo.
Ndaisa pamwechete tsananguro pfupi yepfungwa dzese dzekurapa dzinobatanidzwa mukuedzwa mune izvi uye zvinotevera kutumira. Ehe, chero munhu anogona kutsvaga pawebhusaiti yepfungwa dzekurapa uye achawana yakawanda yakadzama ruzivo ipapo. Pfupiso inoitirwa vaverengi vanoda tsananguro pfupi kuti vatevere bvunzo uye vanoda kuve nepfungwa dzese dzekurapa pamwe chete.
Kukurukurirana kwekutanga naDr. Weena achange ari kuBangkok Hospital neChina, Mbudzi 5, hongu. Kutanga sumo dzenguva dzose, dzakadai sekutarisa inishuwarenzi yangu yehutano kutanga uye kuyera BP yangu (ndakaona yakakwira, 164 kusvika 94), kureba nekurema kwangu. Ndobva ndaendeswa kuimba yekumirira, pamberi paDr. Weena. Mumwe mukoti anouya kwandiri ondibvunza kana ndichida muturikiri wehurukuro naDr. Weena. Kana zvakadaro, angada kuita basa iroro. Zita remwana anotapira: Ham. Ichiri basa rakanaka kwazvo kubva kuchipatara.
Ndakasvika pachipatara nenguva yakawanda, ndichiziva kuti matanho okutanga aizotora nguva. Saka ndiri mukamuri yekumirira nenguva. Asi izvozvo hazvina dambudziko. Mudzimai wangu Teoy, muturikiri/mukoti Noong Ham neni tiri muna Dr. Weena. Ini ndinotora rondedzero yeExecutive Male Test imwe neimwe naDr. Weena kuburikidza. Zvava kujeka kwandiri kuti noong Ham inodiwa zvakanyanya pabasa rekushandura kuna Dr. Weena ipapo kwandiri. Zvinoshamisa kuti chiremba padanho iri anoda rubatsiro nekushandiswa kwemutauro weChirungu. Zvose zviri muushamwari uye tinogarisana zvakanaka.
Kupfuura nemuyedzo wese kwaibatsira kunzwisisa mashandisirwo uye dudziro yezvikamu zvakasiyana. Kukushamisika kwangu, zvidzidzo zviviri zvakaratidza kuti hazvina kubatanidzwa mumuedzo. Kuyera maelectrolyte (Sodium, Chloride, Potassium, Magnesium neCalcium), yakakoshawo pakuona kana itsvo dziri kushanda nemazvo, uye kuyera kukosha kwemavhitamini akasiyana nemamineral. Pakukumbira kwangu, bvunzo dzese dziri mbiri dzakawedzerwa kuchirongwa chebvunzo. Nekudaro, iwe unofanirwa kubhadhara yakawedzera kune iyi. Kubvunzurudza kunotora nguva inopfuura awa uye haibhadharwi.
Noong Ham anova nechokwadi chokuti ndinowana nguva dzose dzokugadzwa, dzinoti idzo dzeExecutive Male Test pamwe chete neelectrolyte test uye vitamin test, uye nokuda kwehurukuro yezvakabuda pakuongororwa vhitamini, zvakatsvinda papepa. Nhaurirano yemigumisiro yeExecutive test inoitika zuva rimwechete semuedzo pachawo. Hurukuro yevhitamini nemamineral bvunzo kwapera vhiki nekuti yakaiswa nemumwe chiremba.
Funny by the way. Ndinoona vanamukoti vangangoita gumi padhesiki panorongwa izvi. Chokwadi hapana kushomeka kwevashandi. Vaizove negodo guru pamusoro peizvi muNetherlands, uye ndinofungidzira zvakare muBelgium.
Iyo Executive Male bvunzo, iyo electrolyte bvunzo uye vhitamini nemamineral bvunzo zvakarongwa neChina, Mbudzi 12.
Pfupiso yezvikamu zveExecutive Male Test:
- Chekutanga kuongororwa kwemuviri kuzere nevashandi vaDoctor Weena.
Izvi zvine chekuita nenyaya dzakadai sehuremu, kureba, BP uye kuongorora nhoroondo yekurapa kwako;
- Chifuva X-Ray. Mwoyo, mapapu nemidziyo yeropa zvakaiswa pamufananidzo;
- Urinalysis;
- Kuedzwa kweropa nekuyera kukosha kwe:
- Sedimentation (sed rate), kuyedza kuongorora kuzvimba, senge arthritis kana cancer, kana hutachiona;
- Hemoglobin, inodzora kutakurwa kweokisijeni uye carbon dioxide kuburikidza neropa;
- Hematocrit, inoratidza huwandu hwemasero matsvuku eropa maererano neropa rose;
- ErythrocytesAya ndiwo masero matsvuku eropa. Muedzo unoverenga masero matsvuku eropa, kusanganisira immature blood cells (reticulocytes);
- MCV, inoratidza avhareji yehukuru hwemasero matsvuku eropa. Kukosha kweMCV kwakanyanyisa kunoitika muanemia nekuda kwekushaikwa kwevhitamini B12. Kukosha kweMCV kwakaderera kunoitika muanemia nekuda kwekushayikwa kwesimbi;
- MCH, ndiko kuverenga kwehuwandu hweokisijeni inotakurwa nehemoglobin mumasero matsvuku eropa;
- MCHC, ndiko kuverenga kwehuwandu hwehemoglobin mumasero matsvuku eropa;
- Red blood cell wide (RDW), kukosha kwekusiyana kwehuwandu hwemasero matsvuku eropa. Mhedzisiro yeRDW inoturikirwa pamwe chete neMCV. Platelets (maplatelets), iva nechokwadi chekugwamba kweropa redu. Kana madziro emudziyo weropa akakuvadzwa, maplatelet anonamira panzvimbo yakakuvadzwa. Maplatelet anoumbwa mumapfupa emapfupa;
- Leukocytes (masero machena eropa), ndiwo masero anobatanidzwa mugadziriro yedu yokudzivirira zvirwere;
- Leukocyte kusiyana, kusiyanisa kunotibvumira kutarisa zvakanyanya pamhando yehutachiona;
- Neutrophil granulocytes, kuita basa mukudzivirira kwekutanga kurwisana nehutachiona hwehutachiona uye mamwe maitiro ekuputika;
- Lymphocytes, inogona kukamurwa kuva T uye B masero. Gadzira chiyeuchidzo chemuviri wemuviri;
- monocytes, kuwanda kwema monocytes kunoratidza kuzvimba;
- Eoasinophilic granulocytes, kunyanya kurwisa utachiona kubva kune zvipembenene zvakadai setapeworm kana marariya;
- Basophilic granulocytes, haanyanyi kuwanda muropa. Masero anotakura zvinhu zvinogona kukonzeresa mhinduro yekuzvimba, senge histamine. Zvinhu izvi zvinoita kuti tsinga dzeropa dzireruke uye ive nechokwadi chekuti dzinopinda mukati. Izvi zvinoita kuti zvive nyore kuti mamwe masero asvike pakuzvimba. Izvi zvinopawo mufananidzo wakajairika weallergic reaction, umo ganda rinoshanduka dzvuku nekuti midziyo midiki inowedzera;
- Chiyero cheshuga yeropa kuona chirwere cheshuga kana kusave nechirwere cheshuga.
- HbA1C (Glycohemoglobin)Kana glucose (shuga) kubva muropa inosunga hemoglobin, HbA1C inogadzirwa. Kuona kukosha uku kunogona kutaurira chimwe chinhu nezvenguva yakareba yeropa glucose level, uye iyo yekupedzisira yakakosha kune vane chirwere cheshuga. Kunzwisisa kuri nani kunowanikwa muavhareji yeglucose level;
- GlucoseGlucose yeropa ndiyo huwandu hweshuga inowanikwa muropa. Glucose mazinga anogona kana kusaratidza chirwere cheshuga;
- Cholesterol chinhu chakapfava, cheyero chakachenuruka, chine mafuta chinowanikwa mumadziro emasero uye nemukati memuviri wese. Cholesterol imwe yemafuta (lipids) anogadzirwa nemuviri. Muviri unoda cholesterol. Pasina cholesterol munhu haagoni kurarama;
- Cholesterol yakazara. Cholesterol pachayo haina kuipa;
- Triglycerides haisi chimiro checholesterol asi tsinga yeropa kana lipid;
- HDL inodzivirira muviri pazvirwere zvemwoyo;
- LDL. Muhuwandu hwakawandisa, LDL haina kunaka kune hutano uye inokuvadza kumuviri;
- Ongorora mashandiro echiropa (kune tsananguro yeizvi uye inotevera basa, ona yangu inotevera kutumira).
- AST
- ALT
- KUNA P
- GGT kuwedzera
- Bilirubin yose
- Mapuroteni akazara
- Albumin
- Ongorora kushanda kweitsvo
- Ropa Urea Nitrogen (BUN)
- Creatinine
- Creatine clearing (MDRD)
- Kuonekwa kweuric acid muropa
- Kuongororwa kweTroid function (TSH)
- Kuongororwa kweprostate (PSA)
- AFP
- CEA (gomarara)
- Ongorora tsvina neropa mutsvina
- ECG (cardiogram)
- Exercise Stress Test kana Echocardiogram
- Pima mapfupa
- Ultrasound Yedumbu Yese
Ndiyo bvunzo yeradiological yekugadzira mifananidzo yechimiro chemuviri, kunyanya dumbu uye nzvimbo yemudumbu.
- Audiogram yekuyedza basa rekunzwa
- Kuongorora kweziso
- Intra ocular pressure examination
- Kuongororwa kwe retina
- Tarisa kure
- Kukwanisa kuverenga kwemaziso
- Kuongororwa kweropa
- Sarudza boka reropa
- Kugadzirisa boka reRh
- Tsvagiridzo muhepatitis B, kuzvimba kwechiropa
- Kushandisa a INBODY muchina kuona maitiro akasiyana emuviri, akadai seBMI (Body Mass Index), mafuta emukati, huwandu hwemvura mumuviri uye huwandu hwemapuroteni nemaminerari.
Imwe 966 baht yekuwedzera inofanirwa kubhadharwa pakuyedzwa kwe electrolyte.
Iyi bvunzo ye:
- Sodium - Na
- Potassium - K
- Calcium (lime) - Approx
- Chloride - CI
- Magnesium-Mg
Imwe bvunzo yekuwedzera inodiwawo kuona akasiyana vhitamini kukosha, inodhura 11.500 baht.
Ndakanga ndisina kururama pamusoro pemari yekupedzisira iyi. Ini ndaifungidzira kuti bvunzo iyi yaizodhura inokwana 3 kusvika 4.000 baht. Chokwadi ndaifanira kunge ndakabvunza nezvemitengo iyoyo uye zvinosuruvarisa kuti ndakatadza kudaro. Ipapo ndingadai ndakaziva izvi pachine nguva uye ndichiri kukwanisa kusarudza kuti ndozviita here kana kuti kwete. Miedzo inosanganisira:
- Vitamin B12
- Folic acid (inonziwo B11 kana B9)
- Vhitamini D
- Vitamin B1
- Vitamin B6
Mune inotevera kutumira imwe tsananguro yeitsvo mashandiro, kushanda kwechiropa uye cholesterol. Zvadaro kutumira kwekupedzisira nemisoro yakadai seshuga, PSA, TSH uye zvechokwadi mavitamini. Zvakare mukuvhara kwekutumira tarisiro yakazara yezvese zvikamu zvebvunzo uye zvakabatana zvakajairwa kukosha.
Zvinyorwa zvakabvunzwa: painternet, kusanganisira Wikipedia, Heart Foundation, Sanquin, Dutch Association for Hematology, Lab results, People and Health nevamwe.
Kubasa, kuburikidza nebasa rangu, kuongororwa kwehutano kudiki kunopihwa mahara gore rega rega.
Ndakaendako kare kare, asi kubva zvandakaudzwa nasahwira wangu Tino (retired general practitioner) kuti kana wanzwa zvakanaka ndisaendeko, handichaendi.
Uye fungidzira chii: Ndinonzwa zvakanyanya uye ndiri nani.
Tino pachake anogona kutsanangura zviri nani kuti nei usingafaniri kuenda ikoko kana iwe uri 65+ uye unonzwa zvakanaka, tisingatauri nezvemitengo.
Zvakanaka Chris, rega nditaure zvishoma nezvazvo. Zvese zvidzidzo zvenguva refu mumhedzisiro yekudzivirira hutano kuongororwa muvanhu vasina zvichemo zvinoratidza kuti hapana huwandu hwezviitiko zvehurwere kana kufa kunoderera. Muenzaniso mupfupi. Kana ukaita bvunzo gumi muvanhu vane hutano, paavhareji bvunzo imwe haina kunaka. Mamwe mabhuku dzimwe nguva anopenda mufananidzo wakashata: kutsvagisa kusingakoshi uye kupindira. Ona zvinyorwa izvi:
https://time.com/5095920/annual-physical-exam/
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Nemhaka yeizvi zviwanwa zvisina kujeka, dzimwe nyanzvi dzakadaidzira kuti kugumiswa kwomuviri wegore negore.
“Kana uine utano hwakanaka, pane chikonzero chiri chose chokudavira kuti shanyo idzi hadzina mutsauko,” anodaro Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel, purofesa wehutano hwehutano uye sachigaro weDhipatimendi reMedical Ethics uye Health Policy paYunivhesiti yePennsylvania's Perelman Chikoro cheMishonga. “Kuita bvunzo dzakawanda dzisingakoshi uye kutora nguva inokosha kune vanhu vakagwinya—izvo hazvibatsiri.”
Heino chidzidzo chikuru chine vanopfuura 180.000 (!) vatori vechikamu mumakore akawanda:
https://www.bmj.com/content/345/bmj.e7191
Results:
Hatina kuwana migumisiro inobatsira yehutano huzhinji hunotarisa pamusoro pekurwara, kuchipatara, kuremara, kunetseka, kuwedzera kushanya kwechiremba, kana kusavapo kubva kubasa, asi kwete yese miedzo yakataurwa pamusoro pemigumisiro iyi.
mhedziso
Kuongororwa kwehutano hwese hakuna kuderedza kurwara kana kufa, kwete zvachose kana yemoyo kana kenza zvinokonzeresa, kunyangwe ivo vakawedzera huwandu hwekuongororwa kutsva. Mibairo yakakosha inokuvadza kazhinji haina kudzidzwa kana kutaurwa.
Uye ichi chidzidzo chakakura (Systematic Ongororo: Kukosha kwePeriodic Health Evaluation
https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/10.7326/0003-4819-146-4-200702200-00008
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Muchidimbu, kuongorora kwakarongeka kwakaratidza kuti PHE ine simba rinobatsira pakuendeswa kwemamwe mabasa ekudzivirira kwekliniki uye inogona kuva nemigumisiro inobatsira pakushushikana kwevarwere, ichipa chikonzero chekuenderera mberi kwayo kushandiswa mumakiriniki maitiro. Imwezve tsvakurudzo inodiwa kujekesa mabhenefiti enguva refu, kukuvadza, uye mutengo wekuita PHE uye kuyera kukosha kwekugamuchira kiriniki yekudzivirira masevhisi uye kuzorora kunetseka mukusavapo kwehumbowo hunoratidza mabhenefiti akadaro kwenguva refu.
Ndapota cherechedzai: vamwe, vangave, kuwedzera kufunga kunodiwa., Kusavapo kwehuchapupu hwekugara kwenguva refu kwekliniki inobatsira.
Kubatsirwa maererano nehutano hwenguva refu saka hakugone kuratidzwa. Zvakaderedza kufunganya kwomurwere.
Maonero ane hutano kuhupenyu anonyanya kukosha. Kudzidzira muviri zvakanyanya (chinhu chinonyanya kukosha), idya hutano, usasvuta.
Kana uchinzwa uine hutano, usaite chero ongororo yehutano. Superfluous uye dzimwe nguva inokuvadza.
Ini (semunhu asiri chiremba) ndinobvumirana newe zvachose, asi ndine mubvunzo waungakwanisa kupindura iwe sachiremba.
Zvakadini nebvunzo dzinopihwa vanhu muNetherlands, dzevakadzi dzinosanganisira kuongororwa mazamu uye smear uye nekuongororwa kwematumbo.
Kubatsira kweizvi kwakaratidzwa here?
Zvakanaka kuti unongedza izvozvo kwandiri, Bert. Hongu, pane akati wandei zvidzidzo zvakaonekwa kuti zvinobatsira, senge zvitatu zvawataura.
Mukuwedzera, mibvunzo yakamutswa pamusoro pemammography yekuona kenza yemazamu. Heino muenzaniso:
https://www.henw.org/artikelen/massascreening-met-mammografie-feiten-en-misleiding
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Mhedziso
Hukuru chaihwo hwezvakanakira nekukuvadza kwekuongororwa kwehuwandu hwegomarara rezamu hwakavhurika kune gakava. Chiri chokwadi ndechekuti vakadzi vanenge vachifunga kutora chikamu vanorasika nemaune.1718 Kana pasina ruzivo rwechokwadi uye rwunodudzirwa, hapana mubvunzo wemvumo ine ruzivo. VanaChiremba vanofanira kuzivisa varwere vavo nemazvo uye nemashoko akakwana pamusoro pezvakanakira uye zvakaipira kutora chikamu. Pachiuru choga choga chevakadzi vanotora rutivi, kuchiteverwa kwamakore gumi, chinoitika chimwe chorufu rwegomarara rezamu chinogona kudziviswa, pamutengo wenzvero shanu dzisiri madikanwa dzegomarara. Humbowo hwechero mhedzisiro inobatsira yekuongororwa kwevanhu vakawanda ne mammography inoramba yakatetepa. Nekuda kwekugara kuchinatsiridza kurapwa kwegomarara rezamu, kukosha kwakawedzerwa kwekuongororwa kwevanhu vakawanda kuri kuramba kusinga zivikanwe.
Parizvino, ndinofunga mammography inobatsira. Kukuvadzwa kwakakonzerwa nezvimwe zvidzidzo zvehuwandu hwevanhu haawanzo kana kusambobatanidzwa muongororo yekupedzisira.
Kunyangwe ini ndiine maonero akanaka ehutano hweveruzhinji uye hutano hwehutano muThailand zvakazara, kune zvimwe zvakawandisa zvinongoshanda semuenzaniso wemari kwete wehutano hwemurwere. Dzimwe nguva muNetherlands, asi zvakanyanya muThailand yedu inodiwa. .
Tino,
Ndinokutendai nokuda kwezvinyorwa zvenyu zvakawanda. Inogona kubatsira kuchengetedza vanhu vanopfuura makumi matanhatu neshanu kubva munzvimbo yekushushikana iyo kuongororwa kunowanzo kukonzera. Kutya ndiyo yakakwana mari modhi yemaindasitiri emishonga uye yezvokurapa uye zvinosuruvarisa zvakare kune vakawanda vatinoshanda navo.
Zvechokwadi, munhu wose akasununguka kutarisa chirwere chakavanzika, icho mumaoko evanachiremba vasina kururama chinogona kuderedza zvakanyanya mararamiro ehupenyu.
Chimbofunga nezve, pakutanga, placebo maitiro e-anti-depressants. Kana izvo zvanyangarika uye mapiritsi haachabatsiri, zvakanyanya kuoma kutsika tsika nekuda kwekusiya zviratidzo, izvo zvisina chekuita nekuora mwoyo, asi zvakanyanya nekupindwa muropa.
Mashoko akachenjera kubva kuna Tino Kuis. Pamusoro pezvo, zvipatara zvekutengesa muThailand zvinoona izvi zvekuongorora se "mambure". Muvanhu vazhinji, chimwe chinhu chinopfuura kana chakaderera chinowanikwa uye hareruya: chipatara chavo chine zvakakodzera (?) kurapwa kwacho. Unenge wava muchigayo chekurapa usati wazviziva. Dai wanga usina kuongororwa, waizofa gare gare, asi kwete BY, "mamiriro" ako. Muenzaniso wakanaka ndeye PCA laboratory test, iyo inoratidza matambudziko eprostate. Sezvo ndashanda mukamuri rokuvhiyira kwemakore, ndinofungidzira kuti varume vakawanda vakavhiyiwa prostate, pamwe “vakatsamwiswa” nokuongororwa uku. Varume vazhinji mushure mezvo havachakwanisi uye havachagoni. Muchidimbu, pasina kuvhiyiwa uku vangadai vakafa nekenza yavo yeprostate yaikura zvishoma nezvishoma, asi kwete nekuda kwegomarara reprostate.
Tino anonyatsotaura kuti mararamiro ane hutano ane musoro zvakanyanya: kurovedza muviri. tarisa uremu hwako, usaputa uye kunwa doro zvine mwero. Uhu hupenyu hune hutano hahuna kunaka kwandiri: zvinoda kushanda nesimba 🙂
@Tino
Zvakanaka, sarudzo yakadaro kubva mumishumo yesainzi. Asi chokwadi izvozvo hazvirevi chinhu zvachose.
Ini ndinofunga kune angangoita akawanda mashumo esainzi anoti zvakapesana, zvinoti kuyedza kwekutanga kunoita zvine musoro.
Wako akatendeka.
Charly
Ndinobvumirana naTino zvachose panyaya iyi.
Itai ongororo dzemhando idzi muno muKorat, pachipatara cheSt Mary, icho chine 'mumugwagwa' wamunogona kuita ongororo dzakasiyana siyana, chokwadi muchibhadharira vatengi vekunze.
Iwo ari nani zvishoma pane mitengo yawataura.
Iyo inodhura zvakanyanya inowanzosvika kune gumi,10000 baht, dzimwe nguva mazuva mashoma pamwedzi, kazhinji muvhiki yekutanga iri hafu mutengo.
Hongu ini ndinonyoresa uye ndinobhadhara panguva iyoyo, iwe unogona zvakare kuita bvunzo pachayo mushure memazuva iwayo, asi mumwedzi uripo.
Nguva yekupedzisira ndaiva nemwedzi ye18 pakati pekutanga uye yechipiri cheki yehutano.
Chiremba anotaura Chirungu paaikupa kabhuku kako kekuongorora utano akagutsikana zvikuru nemufananidzo uyu.
Ndichanyoresa zvakare pazera re68.
Muchidimbu kutaura.
Tarisa maziso
Kuunganidzwa kweropa nekutonga kwakakura
Kuita mafirimu emoyo
X-ray
Echo nhengo
Tarisa weti
Kuonekwa 'kutsanya' [hapana zvinwiwa kana chikafu mumaawa masere apfuura]
Present kweinenge 4/5 maawa
Wabhadhara zvakawanda here, Bangkok Hospital Phuket 11.900 ฿ kusanganisira kuongororwa kwematumbo.
Kana ukaongororwa ropa muchipatara chehurumende nguva inotevera, zvinenge zvakachipa zvikuru.
Ndakabhadhara 23 baht imwe nguva yapfuura kune makumi maviri nematatu akaedzwa kukosha kweropa (ini handisi kuzoanyora ese pasi), kusanganisira mashanu emagetsi.
Charly, unoti wakaiongorora muNL muna 2014, nguva pfupi usati watama, uye muna 2020 wakatama zvachose, saka wakaita 4+8 kwemakore mashoma. Haungakwanise here kuita kuti izvi zviitwe zvakachipa, kana mahara, muNetherlands kuburikidza nehutano inishuwarenzi yako? Ungadai wakachengeta mari yakawanda.
Phayao Ram hospital: 8000 yekugezera
Zvakaita Adrian
Wakaisa basa rakawanda mazviri uye wakanyatsogadzirira kuverenga izvi. Iniwo ndinoita aya marudzi ebvunzo makore maviri ega ega uye ndinonzwa ndakasununguka nazvo. Zvirinani kuve neruzivo rwakakwana uye kuziva mamiriro ezvinhu. Muchinoitika chenhau dzipi nedzipi dzinoodza mwoyo, chisarudzo chinofungwa zvakanaka chinogona ipapo kuitwa, asi ndingada kuvapo nenguva.
Ini ndinofunga kuenzanisa kwemutengo kuri kurongeka uye sechikamu chekugadzirira kwako ndiri kupotsa izvi munyaya. Nguva yekupedzisira pandakaita tsvakiridzo yerudzi urwu muchipatara chehurumende uye mitengo ipapo inotangira pa6000 kusvika zviuru gumi baht. Izvi zvine izvo zvinonyanya kukosha uye saka hazvina kuwanda sezvawakaita. Mukuona kwangu izvi hazvidikanwi mukutanga. Chipatara cheBangkok muPattaya zvakare chine mapakeji uye maavhareji anosvika zviuru gumi nezviviri zvebhaht uye dzimwe nguva anopihwa kunyange zvishoma, senge muchipatara chehanzvadzi Jomtien.
Ndinokushuvira rombo rakanaka nemhedzisiro uye 164- kusvika 94 inoda kutariswa, asi iwe unozviziva iwe pachako.
@Jacques
Ndatenda nemhinduro yako.
Zvechokwadi, ini handina kuita chero tsvakurudzo yekuenzanisa mutengo panguva ino. Ehe ndingadai ndakakumbira makotesheni kubva kuchipatara cheAEK nechipatara cheWattana. Pamwe chimwe chinhu chegore rinouya.
Muzviitiko zvese ndinotaura nezvezvipatara zveUdonthani nekuti ndinogara pedyo navo.
Saka kune kushomeka kwekuenzanisa kwemutengo kunofanirwa kuitwa pano, semuBangkok, semuenzaniso.
Ah, uye nezve izvo 164/94. Hongu, kudai waiva mupimo kwandiri, zvaizondinetsa zvikuru.
Asi zvinofadza kuti handizvo. Ndinogara ndichiyera BP yangu kumba uye ndinogara ndiri mumatafura chaiwo.
Pachokwadi,
Charly
Hi Chris,
Ndiri murume ane makore 86 uye ndinoongororwawo utano gore negore ndichiongororwa ropa uye weti uye ECG. Inodhura pakati pe2 ne3000 yekugezera. (kwete muchipatara chakazvimiririra uye kwete muchipatara cheBangkok) Mibairo inogamuchirwa nguva dzose, saka handina zvichemo. Ndinoda kuziva kuti sei Dr Tino vachikurudzira kusaita izvi kana uchinzwa zvakanaka. Ndakazvibvunzawo ndimene kana ikoku kuri madikanwa, kana usina kumbova nokunyunyuta kupi nokupi, asi nguva dzose ndakafunga kuti: “Kana zvikasabetsera, hazvikuvadzi.
Kana iwe ukaita chimwe chinhu muhutano hwehutano chisingabatsiri, chinogara chichikonzera kukuvadza kune imwe nhanho. Kazhinji diki, dzimwe nguva yakawanda.
Ndine urombo Chris,
Ndaona kuti Dr Tino vatopindura. Ndinotenda nekuda kwaizvozvo. Ndakava nenjere zvishoma zvakare.
Kune akawanda eropa uye weti kukosha iwe unogona kuenda zvakananga kune lab.
Mutengo wakakurisa weHealth Checkup. Akawanda kupfuura makore mashoma apfuura muBangkok Hospital muHua Hin. Bangkok Hospital yakanaka pamasvomhu! Uye vakanga vafunga zano rekuti vawane mari yakawanda, kureva kukutumira kune imwe nyanzvi yechikamu chimwe nechimwe chehurukuro yekupedzisira pachikamu chimwe nechimwe.
Kana ndikawana mukana, ndinodzivisa kuenda pedyo navanachiremba uye/kana zvipatara.
Asi dzimwe nguva ndinosarudza izvozvo. Sezvinoita neExecutive Male Test.
Kuongorora kwehutano kwakakura kwakadaro kunogona kuve nechokwadi chekuti zvimwe zvirwere / zvisizvo zvinoonekwa padanho rekutanga. Semuenzaniso, ini ndichataura yakakwira cholesterol mazinga, ayo pasina kuongororwa, iwe hauzocherechedze kusvika yanyanya kunonoka. Nezve mhedzisiro inobuda muyedzo yakadaro, iwe unofanirwa kuzvitongera iwe zvauchaita nazvo.
Saka handibvumirane naDoctor Tino kuti vasaende kunoongororwa utano.
Kuyera kuziva, uye izvozvo zvinoshanda pano.
Ini ndichakurukura mimwe mibairo yekuyedzwa kwangu kuBangkok Hospital.
1. Kuverenga kwemaziso angu kwadzikira zvakanyanya. Ndakagamuchira chinyorwa kubva kuophthalmologist ine hutsika hwakakodzera uye mazuva mashoma gare gare ndakabva ndatenga magirazi matsva ekuverenga.
2. The Uppersound Whole Abdomen inoratidza kuti ndine chiropa chakakora zvakanyanya. Mhinduro yangu / chiito: gadzirisa kunwa doro, kudya uye kushandiswa kwemazuva ese kwerimu muto.
Kuongororwa kweradiological uku kwakaratidzawo kuti ndine nduru dzakawanda. Kuita kwangu / kuita: usaite chinhu kudzamara nguva yasvika yekuti ndichatambura nekurwiswa kwegallstone.
3. Kuedzwa kumwe cheteko kwakaratidza prostate yakakura. Maitiro angu / chiito: usaite chinhu nezvazvo. PSA yangu iri
2.5 saka zvechokwadi kwete munzvimbo ine njodzi, zvinoita.
Zvakanaka kuti ndinogona kugumisa kuti handina cholesterol yakakwira uye chimiro chakanaka cheHDL, zvese zvine chekuita nechiropa zvinotaridzika zvakanaka uye kuti kushanda kweitsvo kungangoda kutariswa. Uyezve, iyo ECG neUltrasound diagram yakanaka, sezvakaita X-Ray.
Ndinoda kuziva zvese zvabuda pabvunzo uye nekuzvipindura nepfungwa dzangu.
Zvekare: kuyera kuziva.
Ini ndinoda kutenda kuti bvunzo dzakadai muchipatara chehurumende dzichava dzakachipa zvakanyanya. Asi ini handifarire kugara muchipatara chakadaro zuva rose pakati pevana vanochema nemhuri dzeThai. Asi kune mumwe nemumwe wavo hongu.
Mitengo yakasiyana-siyana inotaurwa pano neuko haigoni kuenzaniswa. Kuti uite izvi, iwe unofanirwa kuenzanisa iyo yese bvunzo package kubva kune vakasiyana vanopa.
Pachokwadi,
Charlie.
Kubvumirana zvachose newe Charlie.
Iyo snapshot yaunogona kupindura uye saka dzikamisa pasi / kumisa chero dambudziko.
Kudzivirira nguva dzose kunobetsera, zvikurukuru murutivi urwu rwenyika umo zvinetso zvakaganhurirwa zvinogona kukurumidza kudhura mari yakawanda, iyo inowanzodzorerwa bedzi kumwero wakaganhurirwa nokuda kwavatorwa vakawanda.
Kuyera kuziva kwakarurama chaizvo.
"Munhu ane hutano munhu asina kudzidza zvakakwana" raive jee rekunyomba pakati pavanachiremba. Kana iwe ukanzvera zvakakwana unogara uchiwana chimwe chinhu. Mubvunzo ndewokuti iwe unowana chero chinhu kubva pazviri.
Vanachiremba vanofanira kusimudzira mararamiro ane hutano. Kana vakangopa zano kana kutsauka kwawanikwa, vari kuzviita zvisizvo. Enda kunofamba zvakanaka, doro rine mwero, idya zvine hutano uye usaputa, ipapo haudi chero miyedzo.
Wadiwa Charly, ini handipokane chero nekuita izvi - izvo zvinonzi zvakare- bvunzo dziitwe. Enderera mberi. Asi usaedze kuita kuti ani zvake aone kuti zvakanakira utano hwako. Ndiyo pfungwa yangu.
@Tino
Wadiwa Tino, hapana pandinenge ndanyora kuti kuongororwa hutano hwakanaka kune hutano hwako.
Musaisa mashoko mumuromo mangu andisina kushandisa.
Iniwo ndinonamatira pamaonero angu kuti kuyera kuziva. Uye ini ndinoramba ndichizviona zvichimutsa zvinoshamisa kuti maonero ako ndeekuti hutano hwekuongorora hunakire pasina. Ini ndatopa semuenzaniso kuti yakakwira cholesterol haionekwe nevanhu. Imhondi yakanyarara inogona kujekerwa nenzira yakatsvinda, nenguva panguva yekuongorora hutano. Ini handisi chiremba, asi ndinogona kufungidzira kuti kuchine zvimwe zvirwere zvinogona kuonekwa nekuongororwa kwehutano, kana kwete munguva.
Ini ndinofungidzira kuti kuramba kwako kuongororo yehutano kunonyanya kukonzerwa nekugumbuka kwako kwekuti dzimwe nguva zvipatara zvinoedza kukudzidzisa hurwere nemhinduro dzakabatana zvichienderana nemhedzisiro yebvunzo yakadai. Une izvozvo chaizvo. Asi maonero angu ndeekuti vanhu vanogona kuzvisarudzira zvekuita nemhedzisiro yebvunzo yakadai.
Pachokwadi,
Charly
Iyo link iripazasi (kubva kuHarvard Medical School) inopa iwo mufananidzo wakafanana saTino naMaarten. MuAmerica, 'annual physical' yakajairika uye inovharwa neinishuwarenzi. Ini nguva pfupi yadarika ndakawana imwe (mapeji maviri ane mhedzisiro uye kuenzanisa ne 'zvakajairika tsika'). Mari yangu: $0; kamwe pagore. Ndinogona kuzvisarudzira kuti ndoita sei nazvo.
Mubvunzo ndewokuti: kana zvisingabatsiri, nei mainishuwarenzi (muAmerica) achivhara mari yekutsvagisa? Ini ndinofungidzira kuti mune isingawanzo (?) nyaya yekukurumidza kutariswa, mari yakachengetwa yakakura zvekuti inokodzera mari yekudzorera.
Ini ndinogona kufungidzira kuti vakura expats muThailand vane zviwanikwa zvishoma uye pasina inishuwarenzi inoda kuve padivi rakachengeteka nemuyedzo wakadaro. Mushure mezvose, vangani vanhu vakanzwa zvakanaka vaive nekubuda ropa muuropi kana chirwere chemoyo? Rare? Pamwe, asi, sezvakataurwa naCharly: kuyera kuziva.
https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/a-checkup-for-the-checkup-do-you-really-need-a-yearly-physical-201510238473
Charly akasununguka kupokana naDr Tino. Iyo yekupedzisira ine zvimwe zvakanaka zvesainzi nharo dzemaonero ake: tsvakiridzo yakakura yakaratidza pachena kuti vanhu vanoongororwa havararame zviri nani kana kureba. Ndokusaka aya marudzi ekutengeserana ekutarisa asingaitwe muNetherlands neBelgium.
Muto weLime semushonga wechirwere chechiropa hauratidzike kunge wakatsigirwa nesainzi kwandiri, asi kana Charly achiufarira, ndizvozvo. Ndinovimba kuti akakurudzirwa nechipatara cheBangkok kuti agare achiongororwa BP yake. Kutenga yakanaka automatic blood pressure monitor inoratidzika semari ine hungwaru kwandiri. Yaive 164/94, asi chiyero chimwe chete hachitauri zvakawanda.
Maarten naTino vese madoctor. Haungoite chiremba. Iwe haubvumirani navo, une chokwadi chekuti wakangwara?
@Johan (BE)
Ndinogara ndichiongorora BP ndiri kumba neBP yangu. Uye mukati mezviyero izvozvo BP yangu inogara yakanaka.
Idi rokuti ndakataura kushandiswa kwezuva nezuva kwemuto weraimu inongova muenzaniso wezvigadziridzo zvandinoita mukudya kwangu nokunwa. Ini handifunge kuti kuiratidzira kwakashongedzwa uye kunouya sezvinodiwa. Maarten naTino zvechokwadi vese vari vanachiremba, asi hazvireve kuti vanofanirwa kutaura maonero chaiwo, handiti?
Kwandiri hazvisi zvekuratidza kuti ndine njere, kunyangwe izvo zvisingagoni kurambwa. Ndine maonero, uye vamwe vane maonero akasiyana.
Hapana chakaipa ipapo.
Pachokwadi,
Charly
Charlie,
Iwe pachako wakasimudzira muto weraimu semushonga wechirwere chechiropa, saka haufanirwe kutsamwa kana ndikapindura kune izvozvo.
Uye zvakare: iwe une maonero uye vamwe vane maonero akasiyana. Zvakanaka chaizvo.
Ini ndinongonzwa kushatirwa zvishoma kana iwe (zvichida usingazivi) "unoshambadzira" kuongororwa kwechiremba neindasitiri yezvokurapa, nepo tsvakiridzo yakasimba yesainzi yakaratidza kuti haiite kuti urarame kwenguva refu kana nani.
Asi iwe hautadzisi vamwe nazvo, saka zvakanaka sekufunga kwangu.
@Johan (BE)
Ini ndaisatsigira muto welime zvachose. Ndakangozvitaura seimwe yematanho andiri kutora kugadzirisa madyiro angu nekunwa. Ini zvino ndashandisawo zvishoma zvigadzirwa zveHerbalife kusimudzira uremu hwemuviri kunyanya.
Uye ini handinyatso kushambadza zvekuongororwa hutano, asi ndinozvikurudzira kumunhu wese. Kuyera kuziva. Uye ipapo Chiremba Tino vanogona kutaura kuti hazvina maturo uye zvakaratidzwa nesainzi kuti hakuna munhu anova nani kana kurarama kwenguva yakareba semhedzisiro, asi izvi zvidzidzo zvakasarudzwa naye kuti aratidze pfungwa yake.
Ndakazvijekesa nebvunzo yangu kuti zvine basa kunoongororwa.
Uyezve, bvunzo idzi dzinopihwa mahara nemakambani einishuwarenzi muAmerica. Ivo havaite izvozvo nekuti vakaerekana vanetswa nesangano re philanthropic.
Uye hapana mubvunzo kuti kune zvidzidzo zvesainzi zvinongokanganisa pfungwa yaDr Tino zviri nyore. Ini handina chivimbo chisingaperi mumachiremba emhuri sezvamunoita. Nehurombo, taifanira kusangana nekukanganisa kwakawanda nevarapi vezvese pedyo (muNetherlands).
Pachokwadi,
Charly
Wadiwa Charly, kana kuti nditi Chiremba Charly.
Ndinofunga wakafadzwa newe.
Wakambosangana naNarcissus?
Ndosaka uchienda kure zvakanyanya mukutaura kwako.
Nyaya yako yese yaizowana zero pabvunzo yevadzidzi vegore rekutanga, pamwe nekuti wakangwara kupfuura vamwe vese, kana saka unoita seunofunga.
Ndosaka ndichikurudzira kuti unamatire kune yako yekupedzisira, kana uine imwe.
Ingoramba uchinyora nezvewaini, chikafu uye mamwe mafaro. Haungakuvadzi munhu nazvo. Saka ini handichapinduri kune ravings yako, zvikasadaro ini urombo handikwanise kuidana.
@ Maarten Vasbinder
Zvino iwe unogona kunge uri murapi mukuru weblog ino, asi izvo hazvikupe iwe kodzero yekupindura zvakapusa kune yangu kutumira. Hapana chimwe chandaita kunze kwekunyatsotsanangura kuti ndakasvika sei pakuongororwa kwehutano hwangu uye kuti ndakazozviita sei.
Ipapo kamwe kamwe vanaChiremba vezvirwere zvese vanosvika vanobvumirana uye vese vane maonero ekuti kuongororwa kwehutano hakuna chinangwa. Ini ndinoramba izvozvo mumutauro wakajairika uye handidariki mutsetse chero kupi zvako, kunyangwe ndanzwa kudikanwa kwekudaro nguva nenguva. Kune vatauri vakati wandei pano vanongobhuya nemufaro kuseri kwemaonero ako neachiremba Tino, pasina kana chokwadi. Donald Trump angati: nhau dzese dzenhema.
Ini ndichatorawo nguva yekupindura nemazvo kune vakati wandei vevanotaura.
Kurwiswa kwaunoshuvira kuisa mumeseji yako kunoratidzika kunge kunzwisa tsitsi uye kunobaya. Hazvina kunyorwa nepfungwa dzakavhurika. Zvakaipa, asi sezvakaita Chiremba Tino, chiremba mukuru weblog ino anowirawo mukati memwedzi.
Pachokwadi,
Charly
Ndokusaka aya marudzi ekutengeserana ekutarisa asingaitwe muNetherlands neBelgium.
Pokana newe panaJohane uyu.
Zvechokwadi zvinogoneka muNetherlands neBelgium, asi vashandi vezvehutano vanowanzosafara nazvo, sezvinoonekwawo pano.
Kazhinji 'mahara' mushure mekusimbirira kuna chiremba, asi iwe unogonawo kuzvitenga iwe pachako uye izvo zvinoita sekutengesa kwandiri.
https://www.thuisarts.nl/medische-keuring/ik-wil-medische-check-laten-doen#meer-informatie-over-gezondheidstests
https://chirec.be/nl/centra/508000-medische-check-ups-particulieren-en-bedrijven/
Ini ndinozviona zvichisekesa pandinoona ese akasiyana bvunzo akapasa uye iwo mibairo. Zvisingadaviriki!
Kana uine chinetso chaicho, enda kuna chiremba uye zvichida kuchipatara. Iwe unoratidza kuti chichemo ndechipi kana kuti paunofungira kuti chimwe chinhu chingave chisina kumira zvakanaka. Uye wobva wazviongororwa iwe pachako. Uye ndizvo zvinofanira kuva zvakadaro. Kana chimwe chinhu chikauya chinoda kutariswa, chirongwa chinogona kutangwa.
Idzo bvunzo hombe kana uchinzwa uine hutano uye usina zvichemo imarara. Zvezvipatara zvinongori kushambadzira kugadzira kumwe kuenderera kwevashandi vavo vekurapa.
Gore rakapera ndakaenda kukiriniki diki ndine rubatsiro rwakanangana. Imba yekurasira pasi zvisiri pamutemo pamberi pemba yangu yakaparadzira kunhuhwirira kunorwarisa mumba mangu uye ndainetsekana kana marara emakemikari aripo aikuvadza hutano hwangu uye kunyanya mapapu angu ari panjodzi (aive nefuruwenza yeHong Kong ine matambudziko pamapapu angu).
Kuongororwa kwese kwaisanganisira kuongororwa ropa uye weti murabhoritari. Uyezve, kutenderera kweropa, kushanda kwemoyo, chiropa, itsvo, prostate, glucose, cholesterol nezvimwe zvakaongororwa, Electrocardiogram. Zvese zvakataurwa zvakanaka. Mutengo 2.500 bht.
Ndeipi pfungwa yekuziva chaizvo kuti imwe vhitamini yakaita sei? Iyo inogona zvakare kuve snapshot. Chirevo changu: Teerera muviri wako uye uuchengete. Izvi zvidzidzo zvakakura zvakaita sekutsvaga tsono muhata yehuswa. Kana paine chaizvo chimwe chinhu, saka tsvakiridzo yakakura haidiwi.
Charly, waita basa nazvo.
Ndichasiya parutivi kana zvichibatsira kuziva zvese.
Mushure mezvose, isarudzo yako uye mari yako.
Nekudaro, ndinoshamisika kuti inishuwarenzi yako yehutano inosvika papi pamufananidzo, nekuti unotaura pachena kuti inishuwarenzi yako yehutano yakatariswa nekukurumidza mubvunzurudzo yekutanga.
Imari yakakosha, saka mubvunzo wangu ndewekuti inishuwarenzi yako yehutano ichabatsira kubhadhara rudzi urwu rwekutsvaga.
Kana zvakadaro, ndinoda kuziva kuti ndeipi inishuwarenzi yehutano yaunayo.
Ndakaverenga zvakawanda zvekutumira kwako uye saka zviri nyore kufunga kuti hausisiri inishuwarenzi muNetherlands nekuti une imba yako pano.
@Rick
Kwete, inishuwarenzi yangu yehutano, AXA, haibatsire kune iyi Executive Health Test. Ini ndinongoita inishuwarenzi yekuchengetwa kwevarwere, saka bvunzo iyi haivharwe nekuti ndeye kunze-murwere.
Pachokwadi,
Charly
Charly, Chipatara cheBangkok chaigonawo kukugamuchira kwehusiku kana wakumbira. Gore rakapera ndakava nedambudziko uye vaida kuita check up. Nemhaka yokuti ndaifunga kuti mari yacho yakanga yakati wedzerei, chiremba akati ndipinzwe muchipatara. Kuedzwa uye mazuva maviri ekubvumidzwa anodhura zviuru makumi matatu nematanhatu baht, iyo yakabhadharwa neinishuwarenzi yangu. Mishonga yacho yakadzoserwawo neinishuwarenzi kwemwedzi mitatu yakatevera. Iyo yekupedzisira haibhadharwe nekambani yese yeinishuwarenzi.
Wadiwa Ruud NK,
Kupinda muchipatara kwehusiku 1 kunoitwa kugonesa kambani yeinishuwarenzi kuti yaive "emergency". Kana kuti murwere anopihwa inishuwarenzi chete yemitengo pakubvumidzwa uye kwete yekushanya kwekunze / kubvunza se "murwere ari kunze".
Muchokwadi, ndinofunga kuti imhando yekubiridzira. Zvinogona kuita sezvinogamuchirika (?) kurega inshurensi isinganzwiri tsitsi kubhadhara mutengo, asi inokwidza mapremium kune wese munhu.
@Ruud NK
Chiremba akangwara Ruud. Sezvineiwo, ini kana chiremba aindirapa takanga tisina njere zvokuti tipe pfungwa iyoyo. Zvese mune zvese zvingadai zvakandichengetedza nezve 40.000 baht. Haina kunyatso kuponeswa nekuti ndine mari inobviswa inopfuura 6.000 euros. Asi zvadaro zvishoma zveiyo deductible yakanga yatobviswa. Gomera, ndiri nani kune nyika ino, 55555.
Asi ndatenda nezano Ruud. Zvirokwazvo ndicharangarira kuti pane imwe nguva inotevera,
Pachokwadi,
Charly
@Louis
Kuenda kuna chiremba kana kuchipatara kana uine dambudziko rekurapa zvinoita sezvine musoro kwandiri uye nemusuwo wakavhurika kubva pano kuenda kuTokyo. Asi zvakadini kana wakanonoka chaizvoizvo neshanyo yako kuna chiremba iyeye kana kuti chipatara?
Kana pasina chimwezve chingaitwe nezvehurwere hwako.
Panguva iyoyo, ndinofunga, unoshuva kuti dai wakaziva nezvekuvapo kwechirwere ichocho nekukurumidza. Zvino, ndizvo chaizvo izvo zvinotarisirwa kuongororwa hutano. Kuongororwa panguva yechirwere, panguva yekutanga. Izvozvo zvinoreva chokwadi? Kwete izvozvo izvozvi, nekuti chirwere chakadaro chinogonawo kumuka kana uchangobva kuongororwa hutano. Inoramba iri snapshot. Ndicho chikonzero chakanaka zvakare kuti upinde muyedzo wakadaro nguva dzose, semuenzaniso kamwe chete pagore. Uye zvechokwadi kana uine zvichemo zvisina kujeka.
Uye kuona kukosha kwevhitamini kwakakosha zvakare.
Pachokwadi,
Charly
Munguva yakapfuura, pandakaenda kuThailand kweinenge 2 kusvika kumakore matatu, ndaive neMOT yakadaro yakaitwa mamwe makore ese. Kwete kunyanya kuona matambudziko akavanzika, asiwo yekusimbisa iwe pachako. Bumrungrad inodhura 3 2010 THB imwe nguva munenge muna 14.000. Tsananguro yakanaka kwazvo uye kunyanya yaive nehungwaru kuita zvakasiyana. Muna 2016 Thai Nakarin, THB inodhura zviuru gumi nerimwe, kusanganisira kosi yaisanganisira zvese mukukurukurirana kweinenge awa. Mhedziso yekupedzisira: kana zviri izvo chete nekuda kwematambudziko aya, iwe unorarama kusvika angangoita makore zana nemakumi maviri nemashanu.
Kana ukanonoka pane mukana wekuti unofa nazvo. Asi chii chinonetsa ipapo? Unofanira kufa zvakadaro. Uye kana, seni, wapfuura makumi manomwe, hazvina basa zvakare. Ndakanga ndatova neupenyu hurefu uye hunofadza. Kwandiri zvinogona kupera.
@Fons
Zvakanaka, kana iwe wakave nehupenyu hwakakwana, wakaneta nehupenyu, sekutaura, saka kuongorora kwehutano kwakadaro hakuna musoro. Zvisinei, ndinoona upenyu nenzira yakasiyana. Ndine makore 73 uye ndinoda kugara mamwe makore mashoma, asi ndine utano hwakanaka. Muchirevo ichocho, kuongororwa kwehutano nguva dzose kunobatsira zvikuru.
Uye ini handisi fan of D'66.
Pachokwadi,
Charly
Pfff, handina kuneta nehupenyu uye zvakadaro handisi kutora chikamu mune izvo zvisina maturo. Chimwe chinhu kune vakaneta vemwoyo vanofunga kuti izvi zvichavabatsira kurarama kwenguva refu. Ndinonzwa zvakanaka uye chero zvikaramba zvakadaro, hapana kunetseka.
@Han
Kune marudzi akawanda evanhu, kusanganisira vane moyo isina simba asiwo nemhou.
Ndinozviona ndiri bon vivant uye realist.
Pachokwadi,
Charly
Kubva munyaya dzako, iwe uri munhu akanaka, Charly, asi kana uchinyatsonakidzwa nehupenyu nenzira iyoyo, uchafanirwa kutora mararamiro akasiyana zvachose.
Kwete kuti ndakanganisa, ndinonakidzwawo nehupenyu nekudya kwakanaka uye girazi rewaini nenguva. Hapana chakaipa.
Kana iwe usina kuchengeteka uye uchirarama mukutya kuva nechirwere pakati pemitezo yako, unofanira kunyatsoita izvozvo, uchigara usina chokwadi kana une chimwe chinhu pakati penhengo dzako zvinoratidzika kuva zvinonetsa kwandiri.
Ndinofunga mararamiro ane hutano akanyanya kukosha, kudzivirira kuri nani pane kurapa. Ndinoziva vanhu vane uremu hwakanyanya uye/kana vane kunwisa doro zuva nezuva, vakazviongorora gore rega rega nekuti vanoda “kugara vaine hutano”. MuNetherlands vanodana kuti mustard mushure mekudya.
Kuchengeta uremu hune hutano, kusanwa doro rakawandisa, kudya zvine hutano, kuita maekisesaizi akakwana, nezvimwe.
Ndinonzwisisa kutarisa zvinhu zvakakosha zvekurapa zvakaita seBP, shuga, cholesterol, uye kutora chikamu mukutsvagisa huwandu hwevanhu hwakadai sekenza yemuura, asi handifi ndakaongororwa zvakanyanya kudaro.
Zvakanyanya kukosha, sezvataurwa kakawanda pano, mararamiro ane hutano, kunwa zvine mwero, kusaputa uye kurovedza muviri zvakanaka, kuitira kuti uve neBMI ine hutano. Kuno munharaunda yangu ndinoona vanhu vazhinji vanorarama hupenyu husina hutano nekudaro vanotya uye vanoongororwa zvakanyanya.
Mudikani Charly hapana chikonzero chekukahadzika mabhuku akataurwa naTino sezvaunoita, nekuti Tino naDr Maarten vanokwanisa kuparadzanisa gorosi nehundi. Iwe unofanirwa kuonga kuti vese vanachiremba vakapindura nekuti izvo zvinoita kuti nyaya yako ive yakakosha. Nenzira, ini pachangu handina kuronga kuita ongororo yakakwana.
Maonero ako ekuti makambani einishuwarenzi ekuAmerica haasi philanthropic masangano ichokwadi, asi zvinogoneka kuti pasina iyo muripo clause marongero anganetsa kutengesa. Chero zvazvingava, chirevo ichocho hachibatsiri kuunza tarisiro yehupenyu muAmerica kusvika pamwero unonzwisisika nekuti inosiririsa.
Kune rumwe rutivi: mune izvo zvinyorwa ndezvechokwadi nezve mavhareji uye iwe hausi munhu wepakati. Ndinofungidzira kuti hauzoteveri noupofu zano rachiremba rokuvhiyiwa (ona prostate). Uye kana ukasaitevera, hauzoshayi hope. Nenzira iyi unoderedza mukana wezvingangove zvakashata mhedzisiro yekuongororwa kwehutano kwakadaro. Uye zvechokwadi kunewo mativi akanaka kufundo yakadaro. Semuenzaniso, kana vakaona kuti pane zvishoma vhitamini B12 muropa rako, unogona kudzivirira matambudziko makuru nehwendefa rezuva nezuva.
Asi chenjerera, iwe hausi kungovimba neunyanzvi uye kuvimbika kwechiremba, asiwo nekuvimbika kwemigumisiro yekuyera. Ndiyo nyanzvi yekuongorora here, uye midziyo yekuyeresa yakayerwa nenguva here? Ko macalibration fluid anga asiri ekare here? Zvichingodaro. Uye ipapo panogonawo kuva nemufananidzo, izvo zviri pachena zvakanyanya munyaya yeropa.
Mhinduro yako "kuyera kuziva" ndeyechokwadi. Asi iwe unofanirwa kuzviita iwe pachako, uye zvechokwadi unotozviita nekuyera BP yako pachako. Asi iwe unoziva here, semuenzaniso, chii chako chekuzorora chiri uye kuti yako yakanyanya kupuruzira chii? Uye unoyera mano ako emuviri here? Ini pachangu ndakatanga kuita mimwe mitambo zvakare makore 8 apfuura uye mushure menguva inopfuura gore ndakanga ndiri padanho rinogamuchirika pakumhanya. Semuenzaniso, ndinogara ndichimhanya 50, 100 uye 130 metres munyika yangu ndega (panzvimbo ine matinji) uye ndinogara ndichienda kunhandare yemitambo yemamita zana nemazana mana. Ini ndinounganidza nguva idzodzo muspredishiti uye ini ndakwanisa kumhanya nguva dzakafanana kwemakore matanhatu ndisina kuisa nguva yakawanda (zvakanaka isingasviki awa yekumhanya pasvondo ndisingaverenge nguva dzekuzorora, asi maminetsi gumi andinoisa nguva yakawandisa. Ndiri munhandare yemutambo wese wenhabvu; ini handiite zvekutambanudzira). Kuyera uye kurekodha chete kunoita kuti kumhanya kunakidze uye saka kuve nyore kuchengetedza, asi nguva yangu yeminiti imwe nehafu pamusoro pe100 metres chiratidzo kwandiri kuti circulatory system yangu iri muchimiro chakanaka. Ndinoonawo kusimbiswa kwemhedziso iyoyo mukukosha kweBP yangu. Uye pamusoro pazvo, ndinoziva zvakare kuti kupisa kweganda rangu hakudonhe zvakanyanya kana ndadikitira, izvo zvinoratidza kuti macapillaries eganda rangu haasati avhara. Kana kuongororwa kunoratidza kuti cholesterol yangu (yakanyanya) yakakwirira, ichi hachizove chikonzero chekuti ndirege kuisa kirimu mukofi yangu, semuenzaniso. Ini ndaizobva ndagumisa kuti mune yangu chaiyo yakakwira cholesterol level haigone kukuvadza. Ini ndaizopa kukosha kwakanyanya kune yangu kuyerwa (yeropa, 400m nguva, tembiricha yeganda). Saka: kuyera kuziva, hongu, asi usangovimba neimwe data yerabhoritari.
Nenzira, ndinotenda kuti waunza izvi uye wakatipa ruzivo rwakati wandei. Ndakashamisika kuti zvakawanda zvinogona kuyerwa.
Ramba wakadaro!
@Hans Pronk
Ndinokutendai nekupa kwenyu kunobatsira zvikuru. Sezvineiwo, kuchine vatauri vakaita sewe vanogona kupindura nenzira ine nuanced.
Pachokwadi,
Charly
Anodiwa Hans Pronk
Iyi sumo inondiyeuchidza amai vangu, avo vakafa nguva isati yakwana: 'Mufundisi nachiremba vanogara vari right' Rusaruro sezvinongozivikanwa nevakawanda, kwaunotoratidza kuti unosarudza divi ripi pasina kupokana.
Sezvineiwo, vanachiremba vanongova vanhu vanotungamirirwa neanopfuura sainzi yekuMadokero. [chaizvo uye zvechokwadi]
Mudikani Charly hapana chikonzero chekukahadzika mabhuku akataurwa naTino sezvaunoita, nekuti Tino naDr Maarten vanokwanisa kuparadzanisa gorosi nehundi. Iwe unofanirwa kuonga kuti vese vanachiremba vakapindura nekuti izvo zvinoita kuti nyaya yako ive yakakosha. Nenzira, ini pachangu handina kuronga kuita ongororo yakakwana.
Kuongorora kwekudzivirira kunoitwa pasi rese uye nekuda kwezvikonzero zvakasiyana siyana muno muThailand hazvikuvadzi semunhu asina kusimba ane hutano hwakasiyana [nemari] kupfuura muNetherlands.
Ndakazviongorora kaviri mushure mekunge ndasvitsa makore makumi matanhatu, sezvambotaurwa, zvidiki uye chokwadi, kusvika parizvino ndichararama kwenguva refu 'hapana zano' zvichandiita here kana kuramba ndiri mutano 'hapana zano' ndichaedza kuwedzera kune yangu ikozvino 'utano. mararamiro' 'kusvika makore anotarisirwa ehupenyu maererano nezviremera zvakasiyana-siyana zvine hutano sezvinobvira, hongu, asi hongu, makore ose ehupenyu anewo mamwe mapeji matema, sekutaura.
Dzidziso yekurarama kune hutano ZVIMWE chidimbu.
Panhaurirano dzinenge dziri mbiri,kana waita rombo rakanaka,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,-
KANA zvikaitika kwauri, zviri pachena kuti unofanira kugara uchinyoresa wakasununguka, kazhinji nemutambo unodiwa.Zviri pachena kuti haufanirwe kumhanyirira kuongorora.
Asi kana iwe uchinzwa uine hutano, hazvidiwi, asi ipfupi chaizvo.
Wadiwa William, kunyangwe uchinzwa uine hutano unogona kuve nechimwe chinhu pakati penhengo. Uye izvo zvinogona kubuda pachena panguva yekuferefeta. Uye zvechokwadi, kurapwa kwepakutanga kunowanzova nemigumisiro. Zvose zvechokwadi. Asi kukanganisa kunoitwa muzvidzidzo izvozvo. Uyezve, chiremba anorayira achagara aine kusava nechokwadi kwake - kana ari chiremba akanaka - asi mazano anotarisirwa kubva kwaari. Iro dzimwe nguva ringave zano risiri iro uye rinotungamira kuoparesheni isingakodzeri. Uye kunyange kana kuvhiyiwa kusingakoshi, kuvhiyiwa kunogona kuramba kwakaipisisa kudarika chirwere, ingofunga nezvekushanda kweprostate ine kazhinji isingafadzi migumisiro. Asi kana iwe uchifunga kuti uri kuita chinhu chakanaka, saka iwe unofanirwa kudaro. Asi musati mabvuma kurapwa, ndingakumbira mumwe mufungo kuti ndive nechokwadi, asi ndinovimba kuti izvozvo hazvizombofi zvakafanira kwamuri.
Ah, mumwe munhu anobva kumberi kwechitatu, kana midfield.
Uye hongu, haasi chiremba chete anoita dzimwe nguva mhedziso isiriyo uye marudzi aya ezvidzidzo anogonawo kusvika kune mhedziso dzisina kufanira kana kuti dzakanyanyisa kare.
Kana iwo manhamba kana mifananidzo isiri iyo chaiyo, unogona kuita nguva yekusangana kuchipatara chandataura nemumwe nyanzvi kana iwe usingade kuti zvive zvechokwadi.
Iwe unogona kufunga kuti iwe unoziva iyo mamiriro muThai hutano hwehutano.
Yechipiri maonero / tsvakurudzo, hongu, iyo yakanyanya njodzi inobatanidzwa, iyo inovimbika maonero / zano rauri kutsvaga, vanhu pano vangango tendeukira kune 'yakagadzirwa nematanda gobvu' mhinduro kupfuura muNetherlands, izvo hazvigone kukuvadza. uye vanhu havana basa nazvo..
Uye sezvaungave uchiziva, zvakanyanya kana zvisiri zvese zvinenge zviripo nekukasika muzvipatara zvakawanda.
Iwe unogona dzimwe nguva kuvhundutswa nekushamisika ikoko, asi haufanirwe kuzvitendera kuti utaurirwe mukurapwa nekuti kumhanya kwe'sevhisi' kunogona kuita mutsauko mukuru mubhiri.
Ndosaka ndichitenda rudzi urwu rwekudzivirira kudzora muno munyika ino, kuitira kuti iwe ugone kuwana ruzivo rwakakura / zano kana paine matambudziko, sezvaunoratidzawo.