Ndivo vapambi vechiDutch here?
Takava nepati munguva pfupi yapfuura. Kuungana kunonakidza nevakadzi vechiThai nevadiwa vavo vechiDutch.
Paive nezve chero chinhu nezvese, kutaura kwakawanda uye pamusoro pezvose kunakidzwa kwakawanda. Pane imwe nguva ndakatanga kutaura nemukadzi mukuru, pakati pemakore 50. Mushure mokutaura zvishoma nezvemamiriro ekunze, zvokudya, Netherlands inotonhora uye inonaya, wakasvika sei pano, nezvimwewo, chiso chake chakangoerekana chawa uye Pakarepo Farang yose. vakangopiwa mhosva semakororo akaipisisa.
Zvimwe zvakashamisa, chokwadi, neshoko rekuti "vapambi", pfungwa yakapfuura mumusoro mangu kuti aireva kuti kwaive nevakadzi vazhinji kubva Tairendi zvichida kubiwa nevaFarang vakawanda? Asi zvaisaita kuti adaro, nokuti akanga auya pano naFarang pachake, uye aigara nayo, handiti? Akafara naye, aive ataura, saka aitaura nezvei? Nei vakangoerekana vagumbuka?
Ndakanga ndazvikanganwa zvachose uye vazhinji, ndinofunga, neni. Kana mwanasikana wangu akafinyamisa kumeso ndokumutarisa neziso rokuti “uri kutaura nezvei”. Yakanga isiri yevaFarang muzhinji asi nezvechiDutch. Kupamba kwedu kwakapfuura pasi peVOC. Akanga akatitsamwira zvikuru kuti isu vaDutch takanga tapamba hafu yeAsia munguva yakapfuura. Chaizvoizvo ini handina kukwanisa kutaura zvakawanda nezvazvo nekuti ruzivo rwangu nezveVOC rushoma kana rwakachengetwa kumwe kure kure mukukanganwa. Ehe ari kutaura chokwadi nekutaura kwake, asi kuti atipikisa izvozvi? Ndinotya kuti tingasambobvisa chiseko ichocho.
Ndakamubvunza kuti aiwana sei uchenjeri hwose ihwohwo. Iwe haungatarisiri ruzivo nezveVOC kubva kumunhu weThai, ungadaro? Uye hongu. Kosi yekubatanidza yakanga yamudzidzisa izvozvo. Tsvagiridzo painternet yakanga yamudzidzisa zvimwe nezve izvo zvataka "pamba" muThailand, yaimbova Siam.
Ndarasika mundangariro, gare gare ndakafunga, kuti: “Kosi yekubatanidza iyoyo ingakurira donzo rayo pashure pacho here?” Zvakanga zvisingarevi kuti ugone kumira netsoka dzako muNetherlands yedu yakanaka here?
Kana iwe uchida kuverenga chimwe chinhu nezve VOC neThailand: VOC saiti
Chinhu chakanaka kuti kosi yekubatanidza inopawo muono munhoroondo yenyika yedu. Nenzira iyi, vakadzi vechiThai vanouya kuzogara pano nefarang yavo vanosvika pakuziva mafungiro echiDutch. Ini ndinofunga kuti kosi yekubatanidza haipotsa chinangwa chayo, uye inodzidzisa vakadzi vedu veThai kuti vamire netsoka dzavo. Chero zvazvingava, mudzimai wangu anoita izvi zvinoshamisa!
Ghostwriter anosvika sei pakufunga kuti zvakapesana ndiyo nyaya inondiyeuchidza nezvemashoko akataurwa nomudzimai wangu wokuThai: “Vanhu vechiDutch havazivi nhoroondo yavo vamene!” Neizvi anoreva tsika yeNetherlands yekutonga vamwe nekunongedza munwe, uye kusada kuona kutadza kwavo uye kukanganisa, kunyange kuvasundira kure. Zvakare zvepamba, ona Groningen.
Vapambi: zvirokwazvo ishoko rakasimba, asi vatsigiri vaive (kwete chete) maDutch. Muzana ramakore re19th, yaive Dutch East Indies (kunyanya Javal) neVOC yakagadzira cork iyo hupfumi hweDutch hwakayangarara. Izvi ndizvo zvakaitika kusvika muzana remakore rechi20, uye kwete muNetherlands chete. Yese yeWestern Europe, kunyanya Great Britain, France, Belgium uye kusvika padiki Germany) yakatora hupfumi hwayo uye mabhajeti ehurumende kubva (South-East) Asia neAfrica. Izvo izvo nyika idzo dzakagamuchira mukudzoka zvinogona kuyerwa nedemocracy uye magariro nehupfumi zviri munyika idzo muna 2017. Ingotarisawo kuderera kwehupfumi uye kuitika kwezvematongerwo enyika muSuriname; mamiriro akaita sei muIndonesia nhasi, nhamo yakasangana neVietnam neCambodia, mhirizhonga huru yezvematongerwo enyika muSouth Africa, nzara muCentral Africa, uye kusakanganwa kusagadzikana kuMiddle East neNorth Africa. Nyika dzese nematunhu akatongwa uye akasiiwa ari nherera nemasimba eWestern Europe kwemakumi emakore.
Zvakapera nokuzvidira here? Kwete, zvakatora WWII kuita kuti vatongi vekoloni vaone kuti "kupamba kwavo" kwaifanira kusvika kumagumo. Muchidimbu: Ndinofunga kuti Ghostwriter haatombozivi nezvechokwadi chezvakaitika kare, uye kuti mukadzi wangu haana kukanganisa zvakanyanya.
Handigoni kuita asi kubvumirana nemi zvizere.
Ndinowanzonzwa kana kuverenga kuti maDutch anofanira 'kudada zvishoma nenhoroondo yavo'... asi zvinhu zvaunotaura nemazvo hazvina kutaurwa kana kutaurwa zvakanyanya...
……….nemhondi.
Nezve kuponda kwaBanda naJan Pieterszoon Coen:
http://wvi.antenna.nl/nl/nest/coen.html
Vakadzi vechiThai vachakurumidza kuziva zvakawanda nezveDutch History kupfuura vanhu vechiDutch. Ndinofunga kuti zvakanaka...
Kunze kwemukadzi wechiThai, ndinoziva kuti kunyange chizvarwa chechidiki chevakadzi vechiIndonesian vakadzidza zvakawanda pamusoro peizvi muzvidzidzo zvenhoroondo.
Kune Thais, sevanoda nyika, izvi zvakare zvichafambiswa zvishoma zvakakanganiswa muchidzidzo chenhoroondo.
Mushure mezvose, mafarang makuru akatsamwa vanhu vachena, asi zvishoma zvichataurwa pamusoro pekushungurudzwa kwemadzitateguru eSiamese muLaos, Cambodia, Myanmar, nezvimwewo mune zvakafanana zvidzidzo zvenhoroondo yeThai.
Kutarisisa kushoma kuchapihwa kuHondo Yenyika Yechipiri, kupihwa kunamatwa kwaHitler neNazi zviratidzo nevazhinji Thais ...
Saka hongu, ini ndinofunga kuti izvo zvidzidzo zvenhoroondo yeThai zvichave nekaviri zvemukati zvenyika.
Angadai akadzidza nhoroondo yeThailand/Siamwo here?
Ini ndinofunga vazhinji falang zvakare vanoziva zvishoma nezve TH pane yavo TH mudiwa.
Saka kana mudiwa weTH achiziva chimwe chinhu nezveNL, zvinobhadhara.
Ini handisi kuzodzivirira colonization pano, asi ndinoda kutaura kuti VOC yakaita pamwero mukuru zvakaitwa nevanhu vese vepasirese. Vakanga vasina kuipa kana nani kupfuura vatungamiriri veimwe nyika ipi neipi. Vakaunza zvinhu zvakanaka pamwe chete nezvinhu zvakaipa, sezvinoita makambani anhasi. Zvakare muhurongwa hwezvematongerwo enyika hwemazuva ano kune vane rombo rakanaka uye varombo vanoshaya vanobatsirwa kana kutambura kubva kumasangano.
Uye chimwezve chinhu, kutaura kuti nyika yese yakasunungurwa mushure meWWII inhema dzakachena dzevagari venhapwa. Ingotarisa hutongi hwese hunochengetedzwa muchiyero chemazuva ano, uye mapoka evanhu vachiri kudzvinyirirwa. Uye vaDutch ndivo vadzvinyiriri? Ingobvunza musikana wako wekuThai kuti sei kune vanhu vazhinji veCambodian, Burmese neHill Tribers vanoshanda zvisiri pamutemo mumapurazi ehove nemafekitori kana kupemha mumigwagwa yeBangkok. Ndiyowo mhosva yevaDutch here? Chokwadi ndechekuti panogara paine underclass iyo inoshandiswa nevakuru, uye ngano panhau uye mune yekubatanidza kosi ndiyo chiridzwa.
Wepakati Thai haazozive chero chinhu nezveVOC uye kutengeserana kwakaitwa neNetherlands, Portugal, nezvimwe. Chakakosha ndechekuti Siam yaive nyika ine simba ine vatungamiriri vakangwara vakakwanisa kuchengetedza vakoloni nesimba ravo nemari. Kana vaThai vanoziva chimwe chinhu nezveVOC vakadhirowa mimwe mitsara, vanogona kuona kuti vepamusoro veNetherlands havana kugara vakachena, asi zvave kupi? Uye kuti vazhinji vepamusoro munyika dzakawanda vane ropa pamaoko avo. Kuzvidza kuDutch naizvozvo hakuna kufanira, kunyanya kwete kwatiri vagari vakareruka vane madzitateguru avo vaiva varimi uye serfs. Boka revanhu rakawanikwa uye rakasangana kwese kwese munyika.
Asi kunze kwaizvozvo, hongu zvakanaka kuti vanhu vadzidze chimwe chinhu chenhoroondo yenyika yavo itsva. Uyewo zvimwe zvishoma zvinokwezva.
Ndakanga ndiri mungarava yaibva kuRotterdam Loyd, mukuvamba kwama 60, mune yainzi panguva iyoyo Ceylon (zvino yava Sri Lanka) uye ndakaguma ndava muPublic Library imomo. Ndakavingwa nemuLibrarian akabvunza kwandakabva. Ah, Netherlands. Zvakazoitika kuti raibhurari iyoyo ndiyo yaimbova imba yaGavhuna wechiDutch muCeylon. Murume uyu akandiudza kuti 300 (mazana matatu) makore apfuura Ceylon yakapambwa nevaDutch vakanga vachiparadza vanhu uye vakakandwa kunze neChirungu nokuda kwechikonzero ichi. Ndinogara ndichiyeuka mhinduro yake inotevera, iyo yaiva "asi ini handivengi vanhu vechiDutch." Makore mazana matatu apfuura uye haana kumbokanganwa. Ndakanga ndisati ndambozvidzidza panguva yezvidzidzo zve geography ndiri kuprimary, ndakaramba ndakanyarara.
Ndaive nevazivikanwi uye mukoma wababa vangu vakamboshanda muKNIL uye vakandiudza nyaya pamusoro pezvakaitwa neKNIL ikoko, zvisingaite.
Kurimwa kwekofi netii kwakaunzwa kuIndonesia nemaDutch munguva dzehutongi hwezvido.
Unogona kuwana paGoogle kuti chii chinoitwa pagore muIndonesia uye iwe uchaona
kuti zvakawanda zvakagamuchirwa mukudzoka.
Nguva dzakasiyana, maonero akasiyana. Sezvineiwo, nyika yechiDutch yatinogara iye zvino yakasiyana, uye nei isu, munguva yatiri kurarama iye zvino, tichifanira kunzwa tine mhosva pamusoro pezvakaitwa nemadzitateguru edu nokuti vakazviona zvichigamuchirwa panguva iyoyo. Nekudaro, isu hatibvumirane nemaitiro ekare akadaro maererano nemaonero azvino uye ndizvo zvatinoita. Ndinoda kutora zvinhu mumaoko angu, asi ndinofara kuti Netherlands iri kurwisana sei kana kuedza kurwisa "kupamba", fascist uye hunhu hwehudzvanyiriri munguva dzino. Mudzidzisi iyeye weThai anofanirawo kudzidza kuisa zvinhu mugwara uye kunzwisisa kuti nei nhoroondo iri kukurukurwa...... hongu, kuratidza kuti isu tava nemaonero akasiyana; chimwe chinhu icho kosi yekubatanidza inotarisisa zvakare.
Zvinotyisa kuti "vashoma" veDutch vanhu (Chirungu / French, etc.) vanogona kutonga nyika yose. Iwe zvino unofanirwa kushamisika kuti vanhu veko venzvimbo dzakatongwa vakaitira vanhu vavo chii. Vakuru ava vakamboshanda pamwe chete nevatengesi vekune dzimwe nyika, pasina kupfurwa, izvo zvakazongouya pave paya apo (kukara) udyire (kukara muchiRungu) kwakakunda. Ndiwo makaro evakuru vekutanga venzvimbo dzemhiri kwemakungwa akaita kuti zvikwanisike uye boka diki riya rakanga riri nyore kurichengeta uye, hongu, kunyange kushandiswa nemafarang. zvakare vakanga vachimira.
Muchidimbu: vekutanga vekutanga venzvimbo dzemhiri kwemakungwa vakaita kuti zvigoneke uye vakatengesa vanhu vavo
Oh kuchema ikoko. Zvimwe ndinofanira kubvunza vaGermany bhasikoro ravakabira baba vangu. Uye maGermany akambobhadhara Rotterdam uye Hunger Winter? Kana zvikonzero zvangu zvaive zvakafanana nezviri muchidimbu chiri pamusoro, ndaizofanira kuchema pamusoro pehondo pandinosangana nevechidiki veGermany. Vakanga vasipo here? So rude kuzvitaura. Chinhu chimwe chete nezve izvo zvisina maturo nezveVOC. Handina kumbobvira ndasaina ipapo uye kunyange madzitateguru angu haana kana chekuita nazvo
Nekudaro, ichokwadi kuti nekuda kweVOC iwe unogona ikozvino kurarama muumbozha, uye kuti iyo VOC panguva iyoyo yakawana iyo yakasarudzika nekudhura kwe "vagari vemo". Kana kuti unotendera kutorwa kweNetherlands nemaGerman nekuti ivo vakavaka migwagwa mikuru muNetherlands?
Tarisa uone nhoroondo yevanhu uye vanhu vese vanga vari "vapambi" munguva yavo yakapfuura.
Ingo tarisa kune ino webhusaiti uye tarisa kumusoro mavhidhiyo anotevera.
https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Er_was_eens...
VOC yakashandisawo maAsia akawanda.
Nepomero yekuti 'vachena' ndivo vakonzera kutambura kwese munyika, vanofuratira chokwadi chekuti chikamu chikuru chevashandi veVOC vaivewo nehupenyu hwakafanana nemuranda (vazhinji vevashandi vakafa panguva yekuyambuka!)
Zvirokwazvo vepamusoro kubva kuEurope vakaita madhiri nevakuru kubva kuAfrica neAsia, kazhinji vanhu vekuEurope vaive nehunyanzvi hwekugadzira purofiti, zvinoshamisa kana ukafunga kuti nyika zhinji dzaive nehutongi hwezvimwe zvigadzirwa nevatengi; Netherlands France England Portugal Spain yakarwa nemoto nebakatwa kuitira kutengeserana nenyika idzodzo.
Nenzira, zvigadzirwa zvakawanda zvakava zvakakosha muEurope ... izvo zvinoita kuti zvive zvisingatendeseki kwandiri kuti nyika dzava kunyunyuta kuti dzakapambwa nokuti zvimwe zvinotakura pepper kana nutmeg zvakatumirwa kubva ikoko zvinoratidzika zvisingatendi.
Mukuona kwangu kune nhema dzeruvengo dziri kuitika kune vachena, chinhu chakaipisisa ndechevachena vanovhiringidza ne (dark-ruvara (zita ratisingabvumirwi kutaura) maAsia, maMuslim.
Chinondibaya pamhinduro dzacho ndechekuti rombo rakanaka hapana anotaura nezvenhoroondo nemazvo, asi panguva imwe cheteyo vanhu vakawanda vanonongedza zvigunwe kune dzimwe nyika dzavasina kuitawo zvakanaka. Ichokwadi, asi hazvisi izvo zviri pamusoro, ndezvezvakaitwa neDutch panguva yeVOC. Hongu nyika yese kana vagari vemo vane bota pamisoro yavo, asi zvakanaka kuti tisakanganwe kana kukanganisa zvakapfuura zvedu.
Pamwe, asi chinotonyanya kukosha ndechekuti hatichauraye vanhu nehasha. Zvakadaro tichiri kubatanidzwa mumarudzi ese ehondo uye tichiri kushandisa vanhu. Kana tichifanira kutaura nezve "isu". Nekuti handizvo zvazviri.
Zvatinorasikirwa nazvo mune izvi zvose ndezvokuti vanyori vezvidzidzo zvevaya vanobatana vanewo maonero, maonero iwayo akaumbwa muzvidzidzo zveDutch. Uye isu tinoziva kubva kune zvidzidzo kuti dzidzo yezvakaitika kare paPabo muNetherlands inopa mufananidzo wakashata, unobva kune zvematongerwe enyika zvevashandi vekudzidzisa paPabo.
Ndinoda kuratidza pano kuti mushure mekunge vachena vadzingwa mumakoroni, ivo vanhu ava havana chavakabudirira. Ona mamiriro ezvinhu muSuriname, iyo ichiri kugamuchira mari kubva kuNetherlands nedzimwe dzinonzi 'nyika dzichiri kusimukira'. Imwezve pfungwa ndeyekuti ini ndinoona sezvisina kunaka zvachose kuyedza maitiro enguva ichipesana nezviyero zvazvino. Izvi zvinounza mhedzisiro isiriyo. Zviri nani kuti uedze zviito izvozvo panguva iyo maererano nezviyero zvinoshanda panguva iyoyo. Uye chechitatu chandinofunga ndechekuti vachena vakaunzawo zvakanaka zvakawanda munguva idzodzo uye qualification yema'looters' haina kurongeka zvachose. Asi ini ndinofunga izvi zvakakonzerwa nekusiya dzidziso. Sekuru vangu vababa vangu chaivo vakashongedzwa katatu naHer Majness Queen Wilhelmina nekuda kwebasa ravo paNavy infirmary muAceh. Ndinodada neizvi!