Chiverengero chakati chevabvakure nevapenjeni vane vana vachatosunga mabhandi gore rinouya. Kubva 1 Ndira 2015, iyo SVB haichaendesa rubatsiro rwemwana kuThailand.
NeChipiri 17 Chikumi 2014, Seneti yakapasisa Revision of Export Restriction Child Benefits Act (WhEK). Izvi zvinotarisirwa kutanga kushanda muna Ndira 1, 2015. Izvi zvinoreva kuti SVB haichabhadhara mari yevana kunyika dzese dzine chibvumirano. Iko hakuna mhedzisiro kune EU / EEA nyika kana Switzerland.
Inyika dzipi dzechibvumirano dzisingachabatsiri vana?
Mwana anogara muArgentina, Belize, Chile, Ecuador, Egypt, Hong Kong, Jordan, Macedonia, Panama, Paraquay, Thailand, Turkey kana Uruguay? Ipapo iyo SVB inogona kunge isingachabhadhara mari yevana kune vatengi vatsva kubva 1 Ndira 2015. Kana iwe uchitowana rubatsiro rwemwana pamberi pa 1 Ndira 2015, nguva yekuchinja ichashanda kusvika 1 Chikunguru 2015. Uchabva wawana rubatsiro rwemwana kusvika 1 Chikunguru 2015 munguva pfupi yapfuura sezvawajaira. Mushure maizvozvi, kubatsirwa kwemwana kunomira.
Kana watarisana neshanduko iyi mumutemo, unenge watowana ruzivo pamusoro peizvi muna Chikunguru 2012 (kana kuti gare gare kana wakagamuchira rubatsiro rwemwana). Iwe unozogamuchira tsamba nyowani kubva kuSVB mukati megore ra2014, ichitsanangura chaizvo izvo izvi zvinorevei kwauri.
Mutemo uyu hausati washanda kune dzimwe nyika dzine chibvumirano
SVB icharamba ichibhadhara mari yevana kune dzimwe nyika idzo Netherlands ine chibvumirano nadzo. Asi izvi zvichachinjawo mune ramangwana. Kana zvibvumirano izvi zvikagadziridzwa, SVB haichakwanisa kubhadhara mari dzevana munyika iyoyo.
Zvinoshamisa, ndaigara ndichiudzwa kuti handikwanise kuwana rubatsiro rwemwana muThailand.
Khun Jan 1 ndakaudzwa zvimwe chete neSVB.SVB yakanditi you are not entitled to that.
Uku ndiko kusarura kwakachena kwandinoziva, mwana wangu anogara muThailand ane pasipoti yeNL haawani chinhu uye ini ndinogara uye ndichishanda muNL, asi dziva rine mwana wePolish asina NL pasipoti iyo baba kana amai vasina kunyoreswa muNL vanowana kurova kwakazara, thanks first room.
@ Leon…..complain, complain. (Sezvineiwo, haisi 1st Chamber inoendesa mitemo, asi 2nd Chamber.)
Bvisa zvachose rubatsiro rwevana! Kana iwe ukatora mwana, zvichengete iwe pachako uye usarega nyika (= vamwe vateresi) itarisire!
Mhinduro yekuona zvishoma. Kubatsira kwemwana kunofanira kupetwa kaviri. Dambudziko guru kumadokero kukwegura.
Ndiani anofanira kukuchengeta kana wachembera uye ndonda? Zvakanaka, chizvarwa chechidiki. Uye AOW yako inobhadharwawo nevechidiki (vanhu vanoshanda).
Kubatsira kwevana kwaive chiyero kubva kare uye chakanangana nekutsigira mhuri (varombo kana vasiri varombo). Ne-zvechokwadi- vavariro huru yekukurudzira vamwe vana…. kurasikirwa noupenyu munhandare yehondo kwaifanira kuitwazve.
Ndinotsigira Kees semaonero ake. Ndakagara ndichibhadharira vana vevamwe semunhu asina murume uye harisi dambudziko kana uine mari inonzwisisika. Asi chiyero kubva kuhondo chinoda kudzokororwa kana kubviswa uye pane zvikonzero zvakanaka zveizvi.
Ini pachangu ndinotenda kuti munhu wese anofanirwa kubvumidzwa kunakidzwa nemari yakawanda (kuburikidza nebasa, semuenzaniso) zvekuti mvumo yakadai sekubatsira kwemwana haichadiwi (saka inogona kubviswa).
Mukuwedzera, kuva nevana kwakadzorwa (zvishoma) kwemakumi emakore akawanda. Vanhu vanogona, sokunge zvakadaro, kuzvisarudzira kuti vangani vana vavanoshuvira kuva navo, vachifungawo zvavanogona kuita senge (mwero we) mari. Izvi zvinobatsirawo kudzivirira vanhu vazhinji vanofamba-famba munyika ino zvekuti pasi harichakwanisi kudya vanhu. Ndinoziva zvikonzero zvakawanda zvekuita kudzora kuzvara, asi ndezvekuti mwana abatsirike.
Chava nechokwadi zvino (tichifunga nezvokushayikwa kwemabasa kukuru uye kuwandisa kwevanhu) ndechokuti kuva nevana (vakawanda) hakuchisiri chinhu chinokosha. Kukurudzira hakuchadiwi panguva ino....
Wadiwa Jan, kana wapfuura makore makumi matanhatu nemashanu, ini ndinofanirawo kukubhadharira (AOW). Uye kana uri mudiki uye usingakwanisi kushanda, ndinofanirawo kukubhadharira (WAO). Ini handina dambudziko nazvo, magariro edu anoenderana nazvo.
Ungave uchifanira kudzikisira kunze kwenyika mari yekubatsira mwana kunze kwenyika? Pane chinoda kutaurwa nezvazvo. Pashure pezvose, mumwe munhu anosarudza kugara kunze kwenyika. Mukuwedzera, vazhinji vanobuda kunze havabhadhare mutero, saka izvo zvinobhadhara zvishoma.
Pachezvayo pfungwa inoremekedzwa (iyo yaunotaura).
Pamwe ndakabhadhara vabereki vako, asi handizvo zvandiri kuda kutaura. Ini ndinoramba ndine pfungwa yekuti munhu wese anofanira kugona kuronga hupenyu hwake nenzira yaanoda. Mumwe anoda vana uye mumwe anoda kamera yakanaka kana mota yakanaka. Munhu haana magumo mukusiyana kwake.
Chimwe chishuwo chinotsigirwa (nekuti pane chirongwa) uye imwe inogona kubhadhara kune chido chake chikuru pachake. Mutemo weChinese wemwana 1 une nyaya dzinoshungurudza, asi irwo ruponeso rwevanhu veChinese. MaChinese haana kupenga zvakadaro… Tinogona kudzidza kubva kwavari.
Ini handisi kutsigira mitemo ine marudzi ese ekusiyana. Wese (munhu wese wechiDutch) ari musimboti uye zvakare akaenzana musimboti. Hurumende yedu yazvino inogara ichitsvaga kusarura kune mamwe mapoka evanhu, mune yakanaka uye yakaipa pfungwa. I hate that ~ kutyorwa kwemutemo. Munhu wese akaenzana pamberi pemutemo. Kunyangwe iwe uchigara seDutchman muNetherlands kana kumwewo. Chinhu chinonyanya kukosha ndechokubvisa rubatsiro rwemwana, asi izvo hazvisi kuzoitika.
Peter dambudziko iri pay-as-you-go system. Iwe wakabhadhara zvisingaite kuAOW, asi iyo floepress yakaipedza ipapo. Rudzi rwepiramidhi chirongwa uko yekutanga mune system yakawana chete uye yekupedzisira kana sisitimu ichidzika mubhodhoro. Ndatenda Dres naRomme
Singapore inotarisirwawo kuona huwandu hwakasimba hwekuchembera uye nekudaro kudzikama kwekukura kwehupfumi. Saka chirongwa chebhonasi chemucheche: http://www.heybaby.sg/havingchildren/baby_bonus.html.
MuThailand, zvakare, huwandu hwevanhu huchachembera zvakanyanya mumakore anotevera 20-30. Imwe fungidziro inoratidza kuti panosvika 2030, chikamu chimwe muzvitatu chevagari veThai chichange chapfuura makore makumi matanhatu. Parizvino, avhareji yenhamba yevana pamukadzi ane mbereko muThailand i60; muNetherlands nhamba iyoyo i1,78.
Kuchembera kunogona kugadziriswa nehunyanzvi uye kushanda kwenguva yakareba. Ndine makore 60, ndakakwana sefiddle uye ndinotarisira kukwanisa kuzviraramisa pasina dambudziko kusvika ndasvitsa makore 70.
Uyezve: Kana chizvarwa chimwe nechimwe chinotevera chikakura muhuwandu kupfuura chakapfuura "nekuti ipapo mudyandigere wehurumende unogona kubhadharwa", tiri kuzviita zvisizvo -> kuwandisa kwevanhu.
Dambudziko guru naizvozvo harisi kuchembera (izvo - chiyero chisingafadzi chevechidiki nevakuru - zvine tariro yedambudziko renguva pfupi), asi kuwandisa kwevanhu.
Moderator: ndapota musataure.
Bvisa zvachose rubatsiro rwevana kune vanhu vane mari yepakati, kusanganisira ini. Zviite ne1600 net nemwana ariku primary. Vana isarudzo uye haidhuri kana ukavarera zvine njere. Zvinotora nguva yakawanda nesimba asi mari shoma. Pamusoro pekubatsirikana kwevana, tinowanawo bhajeti rine chekuita nevana uye mari yekuchengeta vana. Hazvina zvakawanda, saka zvinogona zvakare kubviswa kunze kwezvishoma. Sezvineiwo, nharo yekuchembera haindipi bvudzi jena, kunyangwe makore angu 61. Pachine zvakawanda zvebasa risati raitwa uye kushanda kwenguva yakareba asi maawa mashoma hachisi chirango. Haasi munhu wese anochembera nendonda uye tekinoroji inopawo mhinduro. Isu tiri kugovera zvakare zvakawandisa muNetherlands. Bato rega rega rinofanirwa kugutsa vavhoti varo nemari. Kufunga kwenguva pfupi, sekushandiswa kwemari yegesi kusvika zvino. Kuverenga mhinduro yaKees pazasi, inomira pachena nekuona kwayo kupfupi. Semunhu asina kuroora, haadi kupa, asi aimbove mwana pachake uyo vabereki vake vakagamuchira rubatsiro rwemwana.
Kubvumirana newe zvachose. Kunakidzwa pamubhedha uye vamwe vanobhadhara mhedzisiro. Bvisa kutengeserana ikoko, asi ipapo kune wese uye munyika dzese. Kubatsira kwevana irelic kubva panguva iyo Netherlands ichiri kuenda kubasa nebhasikoro kuenda kufekitari. Iye zvino vane makore makumi maviri neshanu vanotyaira kuenda kubasa ravo rezuva muMercedes 25 CDI. Ridiculous.
MaMoroccans anogamuchira rubatsiro rwevana veDutch munyika yavo kune vana avo SVB isingatomboziva kana ivo vakanyatsozvarwa.
Kubviswa kwekubatsira kwemwana kune wese, kana mushure memwana wechipiri, ndinogona kugara nazvo. uye ndiri kushanda pakukwidza nyaya kwandichatanga kutonga kuEuropean Court.Semugari wechiDutch anogara muThailand, handiwane rubatsiro rwemwana, asi vana vangu vanodhura vanodhura mari inosvika 2 euros pamwedzi. Int. chikoro, piyano, kutamba kwegitare, nhabvu yekuwedzera zvidzidzo, zvichingodaro. Ndakabhadhara mamiriyoni emitero uye ndave kusvotwa kwese kwese. Uku ndiko kusarura uye kusarurama kwakachena uye kunopesana nebumbiro remutemo uye kodzero yekutanga yerusununguko rwekusarudza nekugara. Kare 2000 yakahwina nyaya kuEuropean Court, kusanganisira gore rapfuura, kune vekwedu, avo vakangoerekana vagurwa pano ne2%. Chirongwa chakaitwa naHenk Kamp chakarambwa. Ndafona Mugovera unotevera papeji rangu reDutch muPattaya People, uko ndinoda vanhu zana kuti nditange nzira yakabudirira yekubatsirwa kwevana muThailand.Handizive kuti iyi inyaya yerudzii kubva kuSVB, asi maapplication angu ane zvakatogadziriswa. Zvakarambwa kaviri nekuti zvakashanduka kubva muna 50 maererano neSVB. Mukutonga uku ndinoda rubatsiro rwemwana zvine maitiro ekudzoka, pamwe nechimbadzo chepamutemo.Mumwe wekuMoroccan anodzokera kuMorocco nevana vake anopihwa rubatsiro rwemwana, uye vokwedu kuno havagamuchire, hutongi hwejekerere, rusarura uye hupenzi hwekutaura.
Ndakaverenga kuti vana ivavo vakashatiswa zvakanyanya nemitengo ye2000 euros pamwedzi, kurumidza kuvadzvinyirira
iyo kutengeserana., yakapambwa brats !!!
Nevana, kudzidza uye kurera zvichabuda gare gare. Chengetedza chipfupi, chikoro chisina kunaka, zvakanaka, unozoona gare gare. Izvi hazvisati zvanyanya kushata. Yangu, makore gumi nemashanu apfuura, 15 pondo chikoro chebhodhi muUK chimwe nechimwe, ipapo pocket money, tikiti ka15000 pagore, mamwe mabasa nezvimwe. Iye zvino mamaneja epurojekiti, Advokaat. Unodei, gadzira mabhokisi mafirita?
Moderator: Ndokumbira uchengete nhaurirano kuThailand.
Ini handizive maitiro ekuwana rubatsiro rwemwana muThailand. Pandakagara zvachose muThailand muna 2008, mwana wangu kubatsirwa (kuNetherlands) akamiswa uye SVB yakandiudza kuti handina kodzero yeizvi muThailand, saka ndakashamisika kuverenga kuti pane hurongwa hwekuwana rubatsiro rwemwana muThailand. Saka ini ndiri kufarira maitiro arikuda kutanga naColin de Jong uye ndinoda kubata naye.
Vashoma vanopindura vakatozvitaura, zvirokwazvo hazvisizvo kuti rubatsiro rwemwana runofanira kuramba rwuripo kana kuti runofanira kubviswa.
Kubatsira kwemwana kwakagadzirirwa zvinhu zviviri, zvinoti:
1 Chengeta mihoro yakaderera
2 Kuripa vanhu vane vana kuti vakwanise kuchengeta vana.
Kubviswa kwebhenefiti yemwana kungave kwakanaka, chero munhu wese awana muhoro wakafanana kana chero.
Asi ini handioni izvozvo zvichiitika.
Icho chokwadi ndechekuti hurumende yeDutch iri mushishi kugadzira kusaenzana kwemutemo nematanho akawanda.
Uye pane mhinduro imwe chete kune izvozvo.
Zvichireva, izwi rinonyadzisa.
Kana iwe, semugari weDutch, ukasarudza kugara kunze kwenyika, uvande kure.
Uri chinhano chiriporipo chechero benzi rezvematongerwo enyika.
Moderator: zvikanganiso zvakawandisa mune zvinyorwa uye saka hazviverengeki.
Ndinofunga kuti ipfungwa yakanaka kubvisa rubatsiro rwevana. Asi kune wese. Kana sekuru vane makore makumi matanhatu vachida kuita mumwe mwana nemukadzi wavo wekuThai ane makore makumi maviri nemashanu, handifungi kuti mutero weDutch anofanira kuripa.
Ini handioni sekuti zera rababa rive mucherechedzo wekuchengeta mwana.
Kanawo musiyano wezera pakati pevarume nevakadzi.
Ndaiwanzova nesarudzo nemwana wangu kubatsirwa: Ndaigara muNetherlands, ndaishanda kuGermany. Zvisinei nekutadza kwemutero (pasina kubvisirwa mubereko), ndakaita sarudzo pano: Ndakagamuchira zvekuwedzera ipapo uko kwaikwirisa mwana. Saka yakange iri nguva yakareba kuti ndakabhadharwa mutsauko wakakwirira muNetherlands uye apo rubatsiro rwemwana rwakanga rwakakwirira muGermany, ndakabhadharwa chikamu chakawedzerwa ikoko. Mufunge: Handina kuwana kurova kwakazara kubva kunyika mbiri. Mune imwe nyika mari yakawanda inobhadharwa imomo uye mune imwe mutsauko kune wepamusoro-soro imomo. Nice case!
Asi iye zvino ndinogara kuThailand. Ini handina mwana pano. Uye kunyangwe ndikaita vana pano, handaizokwanisa kukumbira kubatsirwa kwevana kubva kuNetherlands. Iri, sezvakatsanangurwa pakutanga, rinoitirwa kusimudzira vanhu uye richiri kuunza vana munyika. MUNETHERLANDS. Hupfumi hweDutch hauzobatsiri zvakanyanya kana vana vazhinji vakazvarwa muThailand. Saka izvo hazvifanirwe "kupihwa mubairo".
MuEC zvakasiyana zvakare ... hupfumi hunobatsira kubva pane izvozvo.
Isu tiri boka diki muThailand rakasiya Netherlands kuenda kumwewo. Tiri pano tichipopota sekunge tisu toga tisisagari muNetherlands.
Chokwadi une kodzero yekugara kwaunoda uye ndinofara zvikuru kuti ndichiri kukwanisa kuisirwa mari yangu mubhangi kuti ndikwanise kuita izvi. Asi ngative vanonzwisisa.
Dai ndaiva nevana pano, ndinodawo kushandisa rubatsiro rwevana…. asi usachema kana ikasauya.
Ndiyo nyaya kubva mubhuku "Ndiani akafambisa chizi changu" ... akafambisa chizi changu. Imo mbeva mbiri dzave dzichigara mune maze kwenguva yakareba uye dzinogara dzichiwana chidimbu chechizi panzvimbo imwe chete. Kusvikira rimwe zuva hapana chizi chinouya. Imwe mbeva inoenda berserk uye imwe inoongorora mamiriro acho. Pazvinozoitika kuti hapasisina cheese ichauya mumazuva anotevera, mbeva yakangwara inoenda ichitsvaga uye mushure mekutsvaga kwenguva refu inowana chizi zvakare. Mumwe wacho akatsamwa nekuti chisi "chake" chainge chisisauye, akasara pamba achigunun'una akazofa nenzara. Mushure mezvose, aive "nekodzero" kune chizi pasina kuita chero chinhu nokuda kwayo. Akanga agara ane chizi. Hunhu hwenyaya yacho? Handizive. Iwe unongofanirwa kuita chimwe chinhu kuti uve "wakarurama".
Saka kana iwe uchida kuramba uchiwana rubatsiro rwemwana…. pamwe zvichabatsira kudzokera kuNetherlands? Nevana vako? Kana kuti uchagara pano uchigunun’una, sembeva imwe chete iyoyo?
Vana vangu pavakanga vachiri vaduku, ndakagamuchira rubatsiro rwemwana panguva yekugara kwangu muNL, asi pakarepo pandakabva kune zvakanaka zvakare kune TH, ndakanga ndisingachagamuchiri rubatsiro rwevana, nokuti, maererano neSVB, "Iwe hausisina hukama neNL".
Ini handisi kunzwisisa chinyorwa ichi, rubatsiro rwemwana haruna kumboendeswa kuThailand, munyori akauya sei kune izvozvo? Gore ra2000 risati rasvika, iwewo hauna kugamuchira rubatsiro rwevana kana vana vako vaigara kunze kwenyika uye iwe pachako uchigara muNetherlands.
Pakupedzisira chiratidzo chezvematongerwo enyika uye kupfeka kwehwindo. Kare ndakaudzwa kuti vana vangangosvika mazana mana nemakumi mashanu vanogara muThailand vachibatsirwa nevana vechiDutch. Ipapo yaive zviuru makumi matatu emadhora pamwedzi iyo hurumende yeDutch yave kuchengetedza. Kwete kare kare, rubatsiro rwevana rwakaiswa pa450 muzana, saka mwedzi wega wega we30.000 euros. Kuwedzera mafuta echiDutch helikopta muMali inotodhura zvakanyanya, sekutaura.
Mwanasikana wangu ava nemakore mana. Pashure pokusununguka, ndakanyorera kuti abatsirike, panguva iyoyo akanga achiri kunyoresa muNetherlands uye ndichibhadhariswa mari. Chikumbiro chakarambwa nekuti, maererano neSVB, ndakapedza nguva yakawandisa muThailand uye shoma muNetherlands. Vanhu vekwavo vanogara munyika yavo nguva zhinji vaiwana rubatsiro rwemwana kumwana wavo anogara kuThailand.
Mutemo uyu wava kubviswa uye kuti ikozvino unochengetedza 24 euros pamwana pamwedzi, nokuti yekutanga 60 euros yakatoderedzwa ne 60 muzana nekuda kwemitengo yakaderera yevana pano.
Hurumende yeDutch iri kuyedza kukwenya mari kubva kwese kwese kuti izadze mikaha yenyika. Zvinosuruvarisa, hapana nzwisiso yehukuru hwehari yegoridhe yevana.
Moderator: ndapota musataure.
Ini handidi kuendesa vana vangu kuchikoro cheThai, nekuti munhu wese anoziva kuti dzidzo iyi yakadzikira sei. Kana uchinyatsoda vana vako saka unosungirwa kuvapa dzidzo yakanaka. Ndine mukana wekuita izvi, nekuti ndaifanira kukanganisa zvidzidzo zvangu zveyunivhesiti nekuda kwematambudziko emari.Gare gare ndakadzidza zvemutemo nehupfumi padivi pebasa rangu payunivhesiti yemahara neyemanheru, asi izvi zvaive zvakaoma kana wakashanda nesimba zuva rose. Dzidzo yakanaka inowanzova nezvibereko, kunyanya munyika yokunyemwerera Baba vakanaka uye vakavimbika vanopa vana vavo dzidzo yakanaka. Rubatsiro rudiki kubva kuhurumende runogamuchirwa nekuti Thailand yave kudhura zvakanyanya. Kubatsirwa kwemwana kuMorocco uye kwete kuThailand nekuti maDutch akatsveyama uye hutongi hwejekerere husiri pamutemo hwehurumende yedu. Mamongi akaenzana, mahodhi akaenzana, nekuti uku kusarura kwakachena kune hurumende yedu. Yakwana nguva yedare remakurukota, nekuti mabhiriyoni ari kukandwa pamusoro pebhawa.Izvozvi ndine vanhu vangangosvika makumi maviri vanobatana neni kuti nditange nyaya kuEuropean Court. Ndiani anotevera, nekuti nechiyero ichi hurumende iri kutyora kodzero yekutanga yerusununguko uye yekugara.
Kune rimwe divi, gara uchitsoropodza Netherlands uye zvese zvine chekuita nazvo, asi kubva munyika iyoyo iwe uchiri kupa mupiro wemari kumitengo yevana vako muThailand - handizvo here kusvinwa?
Kuda uye kuziva kukwanisa kubva kuNetherlands murusununguko rwakakwana kuti ugare muThailand uye zvakare kazhinji kutaura pane ino blog nezve chero chinhu chine chekuita neNetherlands.
Izvi zvinotenderwa nekuti rusununguko rwekutaura nderimwe rekodzero dzakakosha sezvo iwe pasina mubvunzo uchiziva kuti hapana angambokutorera izvozvo, asi ndapota gara wakagadzikana kusashandisa mupiro wemari kubva kuNetherlands kumitengo yevana vako muThailand.
Hazvina maturo kutaura, ini zvechokwadi handisi kuda kutevera kubatana kwenyu mukutanga nyaya kuEuropean Court, kunyange isiri tsika yangu kusanganisa zvose zvine chokuita neNetherlands. Kunyange dai tsika iyoyo yaizova yangu pachangu, kudada kwangu kwaizonyanya kukosha, kupfuura kukumbira kana kuwana rubatsiro rwevana kubva kuNetherlands 'inosarura'!
Colin de Jong, iwe zvechokwadi une kodzero yako yekutanga yerusununguko uye yekugara. Hurumende yeDutch haisi kuzokutadzisa kuenda kuThailand, asi iwe unofanirwa kubvuma kuti hauchakodzera kune ese marudzi erubatsiro.
Ndakanga ndisati ndatombobvisirwa mubereko womumba pandakashanda kuGermany uye ndaigara muNetherlands panguva iyoyo. Uye zvino iwe unoda (ndokumbira uverenge zvimwe zvinyorwa zvevakakutangira) kuve nekodzero yekubatsirwa kwemwana muThailand ?? Rubatsiro, kusanganisira rubatsiro rwevana, runoshandiswa kubatsira vanhu muNetherlands, kuitira kuti hupfumi hweDutch hunotsigirwa zvakare. Iwe unotsigira zvakadini avo, kana iwe ukarega vana vako vakure muThailand uye izvo zvisina chokwadi kuti ivo gare gare vachaenda kuNetherlands kunopa hupfumi hweDutch ikoko, zvine basa sezvavachaita pasina mubvunzo?
Kuti kukanganisa kunoitwa uye vanhu vasina kunaka vanogashira mabhenefiti chinhu chakajairika uye chero chimwe chinhu chinogona kuitwa nezvazvo, hapana zvakawanda zviri kuitika.