Ndinogona kutamira kuThailand zvakare?
Mazuva ano ndakabatikana nepfungwa yekuti rimwe zuva ndichaenda Tairendi kutama.
Zvose izvi zvinokurudzirwa ne:
- kutyaira kwekuomesera kuno muNetherlands;
- mamiriro ezvematongerwo enyika nenyika;
- mari dziri kukwira pano;
- mitemo yakawanda, inoita kuti zvinyanye kuoma kuita chero chinhu;
- kukurumidza kuchinja mamiriro okunze (kunyorova uye kutonhora) 🙂
Chaizvoizvo kusagutsikana kudiki uye hapana chimwe kunze kweizvozvo. Ndiri kuita kanguva kekuchema-chema nekunyunyuta pamusoro pezvese zvisina kunaka. MuDutch chaiye, ndingatoti.
Asi tinogona here kutamira kuThailand gare gare? Kana ukanyatsofunga nezvazvo, izvozvo zvichiri mubvunzo.
Watoenda kuThailand here?
Ngatitii wava nemakore makumi mashanu uye wave kuenda kuThailand. Ndezvipi zvinoguma zvaitika pakuchembera kwako? Pension yako yemudyandigere inomira kana ukacheka zvisungo zvese, zvinoreva kuti pazera remakore makumi matanhatu nemanomwe zvinozokudyira 50% yepenjeni yako yenyika. Zvinonzi 67% accrual gore rega rega (45 x 2) pamwe ne15% pagore kwemakore maviri apfuura. Saka unodzokera ku2% yeAOW pazera rako rekurega basa. Kana mukagarawo mese munotambira zvishoma nekuti mari yepartner yakabviswa kubva muna 2. Izvi zvinoita sekurasikirwa kukuru kwandiri.
Zvakadini nemari yako yepenjeni? Mumakore aunenge usiri pano, uchafanira kuvaka penjeni yako neimwe nzira. Kushanda muThailand hakugoneki kunze kwekunge iwe uchida kushanda mudzidzo kana mutori wenhau. Kune vamwe vose, basa haribvumirwi. Iwe unogona zvakare kuchengetedza kero yepositi muNetherlands nemari shoma. Iyi yekupedzisira sarudzo zvakare inokubhadhara yako yehutano inishuwarenzi premium mwedzi wega wega uye iwe unobhadhara mutero pano. Asi izvi zvinoreva kuti iwe unochengetedza pension yako yehurumende accrual. Kana kuti iwe unogona kutanga rako bhizinesi muThailand muzita remumwe munhu. Takaverenga uye kunzwa nyaya dzakakwana pamusoro pezvinogona kukanganisa, asiwo zvinogona kufamba zvakanaka.
Kuenda kuThailand munguva pfupi?
Ngatitii wava nemakore makumi mashanu uye uchienda kuThailand pazuva rako rekurega basa (makore makumi matanhatu nemanomwe), saka pane mukana wekuti iwe uchabvawo uchienda kuThailand nehafu yepenjeni yenyika (uchifunga kuti zvese muThailand zvinoramba zvakafanana). Hurumende yeDutch iri kufunga zvakaoma nezvekubhadhara iyo AOW pamwero wehupenyu hwenyika yaunogara, nehupamhi hwehupenyu hweNetherlands pachayo. Pane mukana wakanaka wekuti chiyero ichi chichaunzwa mukati memakore gumi nemanomwe anotevera ekuti unofanira kuenda pamudyandigere semunhu ane makore makumi mashanu. Asi izvi zvakare zvinoreva kuti kana waizoenda kuThailand izvozvi uye mutemo iwoyo ukaunzwa, waizongogamuchira hafu ye50% AOW yasara (pasina mvumo yemumwe wako). Saka mune iyi nyaya zvakare, zviri nani kuchengeta kero yepositi uye kubhadhara mari yako yeinishuwarenzi yehutano uye mutero pano.
Thailand haina kumira zvakare
Kubudirira muThailand zvakare hakuna kumira. Mitengo inogona kukwira mumakore gumi nemanomwe anotevera uye hurumende yeThai inogona kuchinjawo mitemo yevhiza nekuda kwekubudirira kuri kuwedzera. Iwe uchafanirwa kuunza yakatowanda mari uye uine yakatokwirisa yakakosha mari pamwedzi kuti ugare ipapo.
Kana Thailand ikabata, pane mukana wakanaka wekuti misiyano yemitengo neNetherlands ichave idiki kwazvo. Iyo yekupedzisira yechokwadi inoshanda mukufarira yako yepamusoro yenyika pension, iyo iwe yaunokwanisa kuenda newe. Izvi zvinoreva zvakare kuti iwe unogona kuita zvishoma nazvo sezvakaita muNetherlands.
Hongu zvese ichidimbu chekeke, asi zvinokwanisika kuti chimwe chinhu chakadai chichaitika chaizvo. Ivo zveshuwa havapenge ikoko nepano. Handifungi kuti uchakwanisa kuenda kunze kwekunge uine bhegi guru remari.
Neimwe nzira, ndine godo kune vese vekune dzimwe nyika vava kugara ikoko uye vachiri kugona kuwana. Vakaenda panguva chaiyo uye ndinovashuvira zvakanaka. Parizvino, ndicharamba ndichirota, ndichigunun'una semunhu chaiye wechiDutch uye ndichitarisira kuti ndakanganwa chimwe chinhu chichaita kuti zvirongwa zvangu zvekutama zvitaridzike zvakare.
Pane nguva dzose nguva yakakodzera!
Uye kune zvakawanda kupfuura Thailand.
Chang Noi
Kune vese vanozoenda kune dzimwe nyika: kana ukaona zvipoko zvakawanda munzira kupfuura mikana, usazviite! Kutama kwakabudirira kunowanzova nechokuita nemafungiro uye kushanduka-shanduka kwemunhu pane zvinhu zvekunze.
Zvipoko mumugwagwa kana maonero echokwadi emamiriro emangwana ?? Ndinofunga zvekupedzisira.
@Matthieu - Kana iwe ukatora pekutangira kuti hurumende yeDutch inofanirwa kuve nehanya nemari yako, inyaya yechokwadi chaizvo.
Panewo mukana wakanaka wekuti vanhu vakapfuma vechiDutch havachazogamuchire penjeni yeAOW mune ramangwana. Panotova nemanzwi anotsigira pfungwa iyoyo. Kuva mupfumi chokwadi.
Vanogona kuchengetedza zvakawanda paAOW. Izvo zvinofanirwa kuve nekuti iyo AOW, senge yedu yehutano system, ichave isingagoneki nekuda kwehuwandu hwekuchembera.
Mugodhi wedu wegoridhe, bubble regasi remusikirwo, rave kuda kupera. Sekuona kwangu, budiriro yatakaziva haizombodzoki.
@Ghostwriter: Neimwe nzira ndine godo neavo vese vekune dzimwe nyika vanogara ikoko uye vachiri kugona kuwana.
Ndinonzwawo dzimwe nyaya, dzevabvakure vachionda ikoko. Ndivanaani vasina inishuwarenzi yehutano uye havaendi kuchipatara kana vaine zvichemo, kuchengetedza mari.
Haisi nguva dzose maroses uye mwedzi muThailand. Inyika yakanaka kana uine mari yakawanda yekushandisa. Kana zvisiri, saka NL haisi imwe nzira yakaipa.
Ndinofunga kuti, kunze kwenyaya yemari, zvakakoshawo kuti uve nechimwe chinhu chekuita mazuva ese. Izvo zvakakoshawo kurarama hupenyu hune chinangwa muThailand sezvazviri muNetherlands.
Ini ndinoshanda pachangu, asi vakasiya basa vangaita zvakanaka kuva nehobby kana - zviri nani zvakadaro - kuita basa rekuzvipira. Yakanakirawo masocial contacts.
Asi kana iwe usina chikonzero chekumuka mangwanani-ngwanani zuva rega rega, zvinokurumidza kuve zvakashata.
Ini nguva pfupi yadarika ndakave nebvunzurudzo yebasa ine simba 50-chimwe chinhu chenzvimbo yekutengeserana. Akange arambana kwechinguva, aine bhizinesi rakabudirira muLondon, uye aida kupa hupenyu hwake humwe hunyoro - zvakare maererano nekusagadzikana muEurope. Kunyatsoziva Thailand kubva kuzororo, asi ichokwadi chaizvo nezvekugara nekushanda pano. Anoshanda nesimba, uye zvakare anechokwadi mune tarisiro yemuhoro. Mafungiro akanaka kwazvo uye azere nematanho. Ndakauya kuThailand/Asia kune network, ndikaona kuti ndaive nehurongwa hwakazara nemaappointments nemacompany muno muBKK. Kana zvese zvikafamba zvakanaka mukati muno, ndichazvigamuchira. Kana zvisina kudaro, achaita pano, ndine chokwadi! Mamiriro akafanana, asi nzira inonakidza kupfuura pamusoro.
Uye usaderedze ichi chine simba makumi matanhatu-chimwe chinhu!
Hans anofanira kuseka pandinoverenga zvimwe zvinhu.Ndiri muBelgian uye ndave nemakore 35 ndichinetseka mubasa remoto.Hongu, 900 ne100, izvozvo zvakasiyana nekudzima moto. Mushure memakore makumi matatu nemashanu separamedic, ndinofara kuti handisisina chekuita muThailand? hongu, comp uye kufamba uye TV uye hongu, BVN Ndinofunga kuti nhau kubva kunyika yako yekare inokosha? belgistan ikozvino hahaha hongu hans hupenyu muthailand hwakafanana namambo. Asi ndinokurudzira vanhu kuti vashande kusvika wava nemakore makumi mashanu nemasere usati watanga kurota.
Ghostwriter, kubvumirwa kwemumwe wako hakuzobviswa, asi kunogadziriswa.
Yakabviswa kune chero munhu anosiya basa mushure me2015 !!!
http://www.pensioenkijker.nl/home/aow-anw/afschaffing-partnertoeslag-aow
Mvumo yemubatsiri haizobviswe, asi inogadziriswa; kune avo vakazvarwa 1950 isati yasvika, zvese zvicharamba zvakafanana. Kune avo vakazvarwa mushure me1949, muripo wemudiwa unogadziriswa kuzera remudiwa. Nemamwe mashoko, mudiwa anongowana penjeni yehurumende kana asvitsawo makore makumi matanhatu nemashanu. Saka, kana mumwe wevane gumi nevaviri ari mudiki pane 65 [taurai makore 65], anofanira kumirira makore mashanu asati awanawo penjeni yenyika.
Anodiwa Mambo French.
Pfff... The partner allowance ichabviswa after 2015. This piece is about someone anofanirwa kushanda kusvika 2027 obva aenda hake. Kozoti hakuchina mari yepartner.
ndapota verenga pazasi paSVB link.
Shuwiro yakanaka,
Munyori wemweya.
wakanganwa chinongedzo.
http://www.svb.nl/int/nl/aow/hoogte_aow/toeslag/toeslag_vervalt_2015/
Sei zvakaoma kana zviri nyore.
famba 2 kana 3 mwedzi kuenda kuThailand uye kudzokera kumusha.
zvese zvinoramba zvakarongeka, mabhatiri anochajwa zvakare.
sekutaura kwakaita mumwe, kune zvakare vanhu vakasurukirwa ipapo uye vasingatombokwanise kutenga chipatara muThailand, nezvimwe.
kureva goridhe.
semuenzaniso 3 mwedzi muThailand, 3 mwedzi munyika yekumusha.
shamwari yangu yakaita izvozvo kwemakore uye inonzwa kufara nazvo
hainawo kusungirirwa chero kupi zvako, uye kunyange kuenda kuPhilippines nguva nenguva.
Ndiri kubva kuThailand muna Ndira 10, 2012 kwemavhiki mashanu uye ndichaedza kuwedzera iyo kusvika kumwedzi 5. Kudzokera kuBelgium, ita mari, chengetedza mari uye uende zvakare ...
chengetedza kune rumwe rutivi uye kuvaka kumwe kuchengetedzeka uye unakirwe kune rumwe rutivi
Imwe sarudzo ndeye kuona kuti une mari yekurenda yekutsiva penjeni yako. Ndine makore 40 uye zvino ndine 3 zvivakwa zvine mwero. 2 dzacho dzakarendwa. Dai ndaifanira kuenda kuThailand, ndaigona kurenda ese ari matatu. Pandinosvika zera rekurega basa, izvi zvinenge zvabhadharwa (zvikuru nemaroja) uye handichavimbi nepenjeni yangu. Handichazvitendi. Muchidimbu, munhu wose anofanira kuedza kuita izvi. Kunyangwe ukagara pano, iko kuwedzera kwakanaka kune yako (inogoneka) penjeni. Uye izvi zvinogoneka zvechokwadi. Ini ndinongova nemari yepakati, asi zvikwereti zvinobhadharwa nevanoroja. Kubva panguva iyo pfuma yangu yechipiri yakabhadharwa, ndakatanga kutsvaga 3rd ine mwero pfuma (= njodzi yekuparadzira mari yekurenda). Ipapo iwe unogona kuwana chikwereti kubva kubhangi. Iwe unongofanirwa kuve nechokwadi chekuti unokwanisa kuvhara gap kana maroja akasabhadhara. Ndiri kuenda kuThailand munguva pfupi iri kutevera uye handizotamburi ne "zororo rekushushikana". Chero mari yemaroja ichipinda, handinetseki. Kana zvisina kudaro ndaizofanira kushanda nesimba kuti ndiwane mari idzodzo.
Zvechokwadi izvozvo zvinogoneka, kunyange chirongwa chakanaka. Asi kana, seni, iwe unogona chete kuenda pamudyandigere muna 2025 uye kana iwe uchitenda zvese zvakafanotaurwa, isu tichava nekuwedzera kwevacancy rate mumusika wedzimba kubva 2020 zvichienda mberi nekuti vashoma vanhu vari kujoinha uye vanhu vazhinji vari kurasikirwa nehuremu. Mune mamwe mazwi, mitengo yemba ichadonha uye rendi? Woedza kuirenda kana yakakwana pasina uye ichitengeswa. Iwe unogona kutozviona kumaodzanyemba kweNetherlands, kunyanya munharaunda yeHeerlen.
Mukuwirirana neizvi ... nezuro bubble redzimba rakanga riri munhau.
http://www.depers.nl/economie/594457/Hoe-ga-je-om-met-de-huizencrash.html
Nhasi munhau pamusoro pekupa mari yemortgage.
http://www.depers.nl/economie/594457/Hoe-ga-je-om-met-de-huizencrash.html
Zvivakwa zvangu zviri kuBelgium. Neraki, musika pano chimwe chinhu. MuNetherlands, imba yakafanana dzimwe nguva inotengwa zvakapetwa kaviri. Ndicho chikonzero nei kune musika wakakura wekurenda muNetherlands uye vanhu vazhinji vechiDutch vanouya kuzotenga muBelgium munharaunda yemuganhu.
Kana iwe ukatarisa kukosha kwemukati (zvinhu zvekuvakisa) zvemba, dzimba dzemuBelgium dzinodhura zvakanyanya. Nekudaro, iwe unofanirwa kuyedza kuchengetedza zvakaringana zvakachengetwa zvekuti iwe musimboti haufanirwe kutengesa chivakwa chako. Ipapo iwe hauzonetswa nekudonha kwemitengo munguva pfupi. Uye munguva refu, ndinofunga (ndinotarisira) kuti mitengo icharamba yakagadzikana.
Zvakadaro, ndinokutendai nekugovera izvi zvinyorwa. Kumwe kungwarira kunodiwa zvechokwadi.
Iwe zvechokwadi unofanirwa kushanda uchifunga. Iwe unofanirwa kutenga real estate zvine hunyanzvi. Kwete chimwe chinhu uko kune 100s yezvivakwa zvakafanana. Izvozvo zvinoda nguva uye kushanda nesimba. Kunyanya kana iwe uchida kubhadhara mutengo wakakodzera. Ndizvo zvisingakoniwi nevakawanda. Ndakakwanisa kuisa iyo nguva nesimba nekuti ndiyo yega sarudzo yangu (pamwe) kuona chiroto changu.
Pano zvakare, kupararira kwengozi kunobvira. Iwo matatu akatengwa akatengwa munzvimbo dzakasiyana uye ese ari matatu ane nzvimbo yakasiyana: imba, nzvimbo yekutengeserana uye studio pamhenderekedzo.
Ndinofunga kuti unogona kugara kunze kwenyika uye uchiramba uchibhadhara yako AOW premium muNetherlands, kuitira kuti iwe unongogamuchira yako AOW gare gare, saka hapana kuderedzwa. Mari yakasiyana inoshanda kunyika imwe neimwe. Ingo bvunza nechiremera cheAOW.
ndiyo yakanyanya premium, iwe unobheja, izvo zvakawandisa nekuti iyi AOW system haina uye vashoma vanobhadhara vanotora mari yako mukudhonza.
@Maria - ndizvozvo, zvinogoneka. Zvinongoita senge 'investment' yakaipisisa yaungafunga nezvayo, kunyanya kana uri mudiki. Nekuti unongo mirira woona kuti pension yehurumende iyoyo icharamba iripo here mumakore makumi maviri nemashanu. Kudyara iyo premium pachivande, homwe yekusanganiswa kweAsia kana chimwe chinhu chine njodzi yekupararira, inoita kunge yakangwara kwandiri!
Ndine makore makumi mashanu nemanomwe uye ndichamira kushanda muna Ndira 57, 1 uye ndinoda kugara zvakanyanya muThailand. Kuburikidza nehomwe yangu yepenjeni PFZW ndine sarudzo yekuwana makumi manomwe kubva muzana yemuhoro wangu wazvino.
MunaJanuary ndinoda kuenda kwemwedzi mitatu, ipapo mwedzi 3 muNetherlands uyezve kwemwedzi mitanhatu uye muna 1 ndinoda kufunga nezvekudzokera kuNetherlands kamwe chete pagore. Nenzira iyi ndicharamba ndichichengeta penjeni yangu yehurumende uye inishuwarenzi yangu yehutano kwenguva iripo. Ndakafungawo mukuronga kwangu kuti mamiriro acho ezvinhu aizova asina kunaka sezvinobvira, kuti ndirege kuzovaka mudyandigere wehurumende, kuti zvinhu zvisazoodza mwoyo gare gare. Nezve inishuwarenzi yehutano, kune zvakare sarudzo muThailand neAA inishuwarenzi Hua Hin. Handikwanise kumirira kusvika nguva yasvika, kutanga ndichatarisa tokurukura zvinhu muThailand muna Gumiguru, nekuti musikana wangu mubiki uye anofunga kuti iri ibasa rakanaka uye ndinofanira kuzvifunga. Mazuva ano vanotanga kushanda vakura, asi ini ndapedza makore 6 uye ndinofunga kuti zvakakwana.
Ingozviita Leo, iniwo ndine makore makumi mashanu nemanomwe uye ndagara ndiri muThailand kwemakore 57. Parizvino ndiri ikoko kwemakore maviri sezvo ndichikurumidza kuenda pamudyandigere. Kana wangogara, zvakachipa zvakanyanya kupfuura muEurope, max 3 magetsi uye 2 mvura zvobva zvaverengwa.KuBelgium varikudhura kuti varambe vachigarako. Kana iwe ukarenda kwegore, unobhadhara 1500 yekugezera muPattaya, asi iwe unogona kuwana chinhu chakadaro muEurope mazuva ano hahaha.
Ini zvechokwadi ndaireva zviuru gumi kana ukarenda kwegore hongu muThailand unogona kugara zvakachipa uye kunyanya kana uchitenda chikafu chavo muIsaan unobhadhara makumi maviri kunze kweguta uye wadya hahaha uye muguta 10.000 baht zvechokwadi yakakodzera kufunga. kutamira kuThailand
Kojk kungotarisa izvi paAOW hazvisizvo.Vanhu vazhinji vane penjeni yakasiyana uye yakakura inogona kuitwa isina mutero uye mari yakawanda. Kugara muNetherlands kunoreva kuve mutero wakazara pamuhoro wenyika, uye hapana anoita izvozvo. Mutemo ndewekuti utange waona kuti uri pakanaka wobva wafamba. Chete pamudyandigere wakaderedzwa wehurumende, unofanira kunge unopenga !!!
Hongu Ghostwriter, uri kutarisa chinhu chimwe chete. rombo rakanaka!!!!
Idzi ndidzo pfungwa dzisingatadzise mufaro wangu zvachose.
Handifungi kuti maverengero acho ari echokwadi. Mukuona kwangu, hazvina kururama kuti makore maviri ekupedzisira asati aenda pamudyandigere anodhura 2% penjeni accrual. Sekunzwisisa kwandinoita, chirango ndechekuti iwe unogona kugamuchira penjeni yenyika kubva pazera re13. Nekudaro, iwe unongogamuchira (kusvika kumagumo) 65% panzvimbo ye87% AOW. Uye ndicho chinhu chakasiyana. Saka kana iwe uchingotanga penjeni yako kubva pazera remakumi matanhatu nenomwe, makore maviri ekupedzisira haakubhadharire 100% accrual, asi 67%. Hongu hazvina kunaka futi, asi zvishoma zvirinani....
Mhoro Stevo,
Sezvineiwo, zviverengero izvozvo ndezvechokwadi. Sezvakamboitika mune chimwe chidimbu, ini ndakabatanidza mareferensi kune shanduko yemutemo uye maitiro avo. Google iyo uye iwe uchawana mabhiri.
Kana iwe ukabva kuNetherlands uine makore makumi mashanu, izvi zvinokubhadhara iwe 50% yenyika pension accrual pagore kusvika pazera re65. Iwe unofanirwa kumirira kusvika 2 nekuti kubva 2027 uye 2020 pachave nerimwe gore. Unogona kuenda pamudyandigere muna 2025, asi wobva wapa muripo wemutengo wakakwana wauchawana kubva muna 1 (kana ukagara muNetherlands). Uye ndizvo chaizvo 2025% pagore. Ndapota verenga bhiri. Kana iwe ukaenda pamudyandigere pazera remakore makumi matanhatu nemanomwe, hapana chaunosiya uye unongogamuchira 2015% yepenjeni yenyika (iyo yakatowedzera kubva 6.5 kusvika 67 nekuwedzera 100% inflation).
Vakaita izvi kuitira kuti vanhu vasiye mabasa anorema pazera remakore makumi matanhatu nemashanu. Asi isu tinorasikirwa iyo yekuwedzera bhonasi ye65%.
http://www.wegwijs.nl/artikel/2011/06/het-pensioenakkoord-is-getekend,-nu-de-vrede-nog
Unogona kubhadhara mapremium eAOW nekuzvidira kwemakore gumi. Kana usina mari kubva kubasa, unobhadhara mari shoma. Izvo zvisingasviki 500 euros pagore. Ndakaenda kuThailand ndiine makore makumi mashanu nematanhatu uye ndichizvipira kubhadhara iyo AOW premium. Saka pazera re56 ini ndinongogamuchira 65% AOW.
Kuenda kunogara kuThailand chirongwa changu chakasimba,
ane zvinhu zvakati wandei (zvakawandisa) zvemumba uye nezvimwe zvinhu zvakawanda
(zvakare zvakawandisa)
kurodha mudziyo uzere isarudzo, kuyedza kutengesa pano inenge isiri sarudzo.
Ndiani ane hanya nezvinhu zvinobatsira zvakare?
Pamusoro pezvo, ndinofunga zvinogamuchirwa muThailand. (Hazvisi zvekuchengetedza mari!)
ani naani wandinosarudza anogona kuva nawo. chokwadi chengeta yakawanda yacho kuitira imba yangu.
uyu beright anobva kuCanada kwandichiri kugara.
Ndapota pindura; ko zvinhu zvemumba zvemagetsi?
110-120 munyika yangu Thailand 220 Ndinoziva iyo hz. ane 50 -uye 60 mumwe munhu ane imwe
mhinduro yakanaka uye zano?
zvakare mubvunzo nezve kupinza kwemunhu muThailand (muripo kana hapana)
vatakuri vemidziyo vanoendeswawo kwavanoenda?
bvbm, ndatenda nezano rakanaka.
Jo van der Zande.
MuThailand zvese zviri 50hz uye 220v.
Hi Jo, ndaona kuti wanga uchiedza kundifonera kubva kuCanada, edza kushandisa nharembozha yako nguva inotevera, ndinogona kukutumira meseji.003166594261
Handizive kuti zvinodhura kuunza zvinhu zvako mumudziyo, asi pamitengo iyi ndinofunga kuti unogona kugovera imba muThailand, uye midziyo yako ichave yakasiyanawo nemasikirwo. MuThailand iwe unogara kunze zvakanyanya.
Iwe unogona dzimwe nguva kushandura midziyo yemagetsi kubva ku110 volts kusvika ku220 volts, zvirinani munguva yakapfuura, ingovhura stereo uye ona kana paine rotary switch, uchitya kuti izvi hazvisisirizvo nhasi.
450 euros kubva kuAmsterdam. Tsika dzeThai dzinodhonza gumbo rako. Kana zvichibvira, usatora chinhu newe. Unogona kutenga imba yakakwana pano ne100k.
kupi 450 euros? Ndakadana akati wandei kumberi ndokundibvunza pakati pe1200 ne2000? saka zano regoridhe riripi?
Ndakanga ndine zvinhu zvakawanda zvakabva kuNetherlands kuenda kuThailand - atova makore gumi apfuura. Hapana fenicha, midziyo yemagetsi uye zvichingodaro, asi kunyanya mabhuku, midziyo yekicheni, midziyo, mifananidzo, mwenje wetafura yakanaka, zvipfeko (zvandisati ndamboshandisa pano), nezvimwewo.
Zvaisazobvira kuzadza mudziyo wose, asi panguva iyoyo wakanga wakazara sezvinobvira mumabhokisi aifamba uye wozorongedzerwa mubhokisi remapuranga rinokwanisa kufamba mugungwa. Zvese zvakarongwa zvakanakisa nenyanzvi mundima iyi, Forwarder Steeman muAlkmaar. Iwe unogona zvakare kukumbira mutengo wazvino ipapo.
Tsika dzeThai zvechokwadi dziri kuedza kugadzira "goridhe" kubva mairi. Iwe unofanirwa kupa runyoro rwakakwana rwezvinyorwa nematengo ese emayuniti. Ndakatariswa mutero nemari yakawanda zvikuru. Mukubvunzana necustos clearance agent pano, ndakagadzirisa rondedzero pasi, imwe "mari yemaoko" yakabatanidzwawo uye kuongororwa kwakaderedzwa ne80%.
Kuti ujekese, zvichida, haisi tsika dzinoita mari kubva mairi, asi mumiririri wetsika anoisa chiziviso nokuda kwekukudzwa kwako.
Chokwadi ndechekuti mumiriri uyu anochaja chikamu chemari inobhadharwa kubva kunze kwenyika, saka achaedza nesimba rake rose kuwedzera kukosha kwakaziviswa.
Munguva yakapfuura ndakatumira zvinhu zvangu zvese zvemumba kuThailand nemudziyo.
Mumiriri wetsika weThai akazviita zvekuti ndaifanira kubhadhara 150,000 baht.
Sezvineiwo, ndine Hama muLaw vakakwanisa kutaura nemukuru wetsika, uyo akabva aita kuti mumiriri wetsika aite basa rake rechikoro zvakare, mushure mezvo ndaifanira kubhadhara zviuru gumi zvebhaht zvakazara zviri pamutemo semabasa ekunze.
Mupurisa wecustoms akabva aedza kundibira mari zvakashaya basa nekuti ndaiva ndava nemapepa ese mumaoko.
Tsika dzinowanzoshanda muupofu pachiziviso chemumiririri wetsika.
Rondedzero yekuverenga uye yekurongedza inofanirwa kuverengerwa pakusimuka kubva kuNetherlands, umo zera rezvinhu rinonyanya kutarisisa kukosha.
Iwe haugone kudhirowa museve pairi. Ini dzimwe nguva ndinorayira chimwe chinhu kuburikidza neinternet, uye dzimwe nguva ndinobhadhara 10%, ipapo 30%, ipapo hapana (chikamu chakafanana chezvigadzirwa, mupi mumwe chete). Ndakatumirawo zvinhu zvemumba kubva kuSingapore kusvika kuno, nerori neDHL, mabhokisi gumi nemashanu akazara, mabhuku, maCD, midziyo yekubikira, zvipfeko - yakataura kukosha kwakaderera. Ndaifanira kutsanangura zvese pasi kuchikamu chisati chaburitswa pano, ini ndanga ndangotaura 'zano remukicheni' - ndangofungidzira zvishoma, chii chavanogona kuita kana kamwe kamwe paine maforogo matanhatu panzvimbo yemaforogo mana? Ndaizivawo mumwe munhu aiziva mumwe munhu, uye pakupedzisira, pashure pokubhadhara 15 baht duty, tsvina yose yakaunzwa kumba kwangu.
@Gringo - 'geji' zvinoreva kudhonza, kwete museve, handiti? 😉
Zvakanaka Robert! Peil ndiro izwi chairo mune iyi nyaya, asi ini ndave kurohwawo nemitauro?
Ndakanga ndambofunga nezvekutamira kuThailand, asi ndakadzoka mushure mekugara kwemakore maviri nehafu. Mufananidzo une vanhu vazhinji weThailand unowanzo kuve wakavakirwa pazororo uye panzvimbo pekuda zvakanyanya nekudanana. Mumwe haafungi kubva muimba yepamusoro, asi kubva panzvimbo iyo pfungwa haishande zvachose. Thailand inyika yakanaka kana uine penjeni yakanaka kana kushandira imwe kambani yekunze. Muchidimbu, mari yaunowana ichabhadharwa nemari yekuMadokero.
Ini ndinobvumirana naGhostwriter, kana iwe usati waenda pamudyandigere uye uchiri kushandira mari yako kwemakore, saka hazvisi nyore kutamira ikoko. Mushure mezvose, haasi munhu wese ane hunyanzvi kana akadzidziswa kushanda ipapo semutori wenhau, mudzidzisi kana semushandi wenguva pfupi. Zvakare, havasi vese vane hunyanzvi hwakakwana uye mari yekutanga bhizinesi ipapo. Mukuona kwangu, izvi hazvina chokuita nekuona zvipoko zvakawanda kupfuura zvingangoitika, asi nemafungiro uye pfungwa yechokwadi.
Iwe unotama kunze kwekumwe kusagutsikana uye kutenda kuti iwe uchava nenguva iri nani ikoko. Zvisinei, nhamba huru yevadiki vaigara ikoko vakatiza nyika yavo, nokuti vakanga vasisina kodzero shoma kana kuti vasina kodzero yokuvapo pano uye naizvozvo vakanga vasina kurasikirwa. Zvakanaka, saka sarudzo yekurongedza mabhegi ako haina kuoma zvakadaro. Zvisinei, kana uine upenyu hwakanaka chaizvo pano, uchafunga kaviri nezvokutamira kune imwe nyika, kunyanya kune imwe nyika ine tsika netsika zvakasiyana zvachose, uko maFarang akawanda asingatombotauri mutauro wacho.
Ani naani ane mufungo wakadaro anofanira kuzviedza ndokuzvionera ega kana chisarudzo ichocho chakanga chakarurama. Nyika imwe neimwe ine zvayakaipira uye ivo zvakare vane zvimwe muThai. Zvechokwadi hazvisi nyore kune farang, kunyange kana vaine mari.
Ndakabvawo kuNetherlands nokuda kwezvikonzero zvakasiyana-siyana, kusanganisira kuti ndakanga ndisisanzwi saizvozvo uye ndaitarisira upenyu huri nani kune imwe nzvimbo. Ndakasarudza Thailand panguva iyoyo nekuda kwezvikonzero zvehupfumi uye vanenge vese maBhudha.
Kudai ndaizozviitazve, ndaizoenda kuPhilippine.
@Fred Schoolderman - Vazhinji vekune dzimwe nyika vandinoziva muThailand, vanga vari pano kwenguva yakareba uye vakabudirira (uye iwe unogona kutsanangura nenzira dzakasiyana) zvirokwazvo havasangane netsanangudzo yako yekutamira kuThailand nekuti 'havana chasara kurasikirwa. ' (Nenzira, iwe une vanhu vazhinji avo pano, ichokwadi - ini handidi kugumbura chero munhu, asi kana iwe uchifarira, ndinogona kutumidza nzvimbo yegungwa yekutandarira uko vanhu verudzi urwu vanowanzogara kunze).
Vatorwa vandinoziva pano havasi ING/Philips/KLM mhando expats. Vadaidze chizvarwa chitsva chekubuda kunze, ivo vanowanzove nekambani yavo pano (kwete, kwete bhawa) kana kushandira kambani yeThai, kazhinji sekutevera kune rakabudirira (yepasirese) basa munyika dzakasimukira. Asi sezvakataurwa naKhun Peter: hazvisi zvese maruva uye kupenya kwemwedzi. Iri zvakare basa rakaoma pano - kazhinji rakaoma kwazvo kupfuura muNetherlands nenzira. Uye usacheme nekupfeka zvikabudura kuoffice kunodziya 😉
Wadiwa Hans, zvechokwadi kune 'chizvarwa chitsva' chekubuda kunze, kana vashandi vekunze vangave iri izwi riri nani. 'Itsva', mupfungwa yekuti vanoshanda pasi pemamiriro akasiyana zvakanyanya uye mamiriro pane echinyakare expat. Kazhinji vakadzidziswa pasi rose vane ruzivo rwebasa rekunze, rinogoneka kutumirwa kune dzimwe nyika, havagaro 'kutumwa' kubva kunyika yavo asi kazhinji vanoenda vachizvitsvaga ivo pachavo. Iwo maexpats anga ave pamudyandigere anga ari pamapakeji akasiyana zvishoma pane 'chizvarwa chitsva' expats yandiri kutaura nezvayo.
Izwi rokuti 'expat' dzimwe nguva rinoturikirwa zvakasiyana; vamwe vanoishandisa kune wese anogara nekushanda kunze kwenyika, vamwe vanoishandisa chete kune avo vakatumirwa nekambani yavo. Icho chokwadi ndechekuti iyo expat yakasarudzika ye60s uye 70s uye pamwe kunyange iyo 80s ikozvino yanyangarika zvakanyanya, pamwe nezvimwe kunze.
Kana ndine vapi nevapi vandichakumbira mune ramangwana, ndichakumbira rubatsiro rwenyu kuti ndiparadzanise gorosi nehundi. Wakambowana basa here munguva yakapfuura nekungoratidza hurongwa hwakazara? Gosh, pamwe zvese zvaive nani kumashure muzuva!
@Hans - chidimbu nezveangu anonzi maexpats matsva 😉
http://www.rnw.nl/nederlands/article/nieuwe-expats-voldoening-weegt-zwaarder-dan-salaris
@Robert: Ndakaverenga chidimbu, ruzivo rwakanaka, asi pane zvakare chimwe chinhu chekucherechedza, senge 80% yechizvarwa chemireniyumu inoda kuenda kunze kwenyika. Zviuru zvingani (gumi) zviripo? Iwe unofungei nezvechinyorwa, nekuti kana paine mamwe mazwi pamusoro payo, iwe unowanzo farira kuti: Hongu, asi ini handina kutaura izvozvo, zviri muchinyorwa ichocho.
Ini zvechokwadi ndinobvumirana newe kuti vechidiki vane mikana yakawanda kune dzimwe nyika kupfuura isu. Ndakakubvunza kare kuti vangani vevanhu vaunoziva muBangkok. Zvishanu, gumi, zana, kana kupfuura? Pane bhawa here, kana zvirinani nzanga, pandinogona kuyemura mufananidzo werudzi urwu?
Nenzira, chinyorwa chacho hachisi cheThailand uye ndinoshamisika kuti chii chakawedzerwa kukosha vechidiki vakadaro vangadai vakaenzanisa naThais avo vaizogamuchira mvumo yekushanda.
Nenzira, ndinoda kutaura kuti takamboita nhaurirano, ndinoziva hunhu hwako hwekupokana vanhu muPattaya, asi ndinofunga zvakare kuti uri murume akakodzera kunwa doro naro mubhawa redoro muPattaya. Sezvingatarisirwa!
Ndinofunga kuti chinyorwa chakarurama. Nekudaro, zviri kunyanya nezve kutumirwa, vanhu vazhinji vandinoziva vakauya kuAsia/Thailand vari vega, kana kuti vakatanga bhizinesi ravo mushure mekutanga kutumirwa. Iroro zvechokwadi iboka rakaganhurirwa, asi ndiro boka randinogara ndichibata naro. Tourism ndeyechokwadi mushandirwi mukuru weboka iri, funga nezvevashandi vepahotera uye vafambisi vevashanyi, asi iniwo ndinoziva mafarangs mukutengeserana kwematehwe, zvigadzirwa zvekunaka, midhiya, makambani ewebhusaiti, nezvimwewo. Haugone kufungidzira chero chinhu chinopenga. Midzimu yese inoshamisa, hongu. Uye zvechokwadi, vechidiki vemazuva ano vekuMadokero vane hunyanzvi hwepasirese uye vane mikana nemikana yakawanda. Iko kukosha kwakawedzerwa kune mafarangs pano kunyanya dzidzo yakanaka, ruzivo uye hunyanzvi. Ndosaka vachibhadharwa kupfuura Thais.
Ndaida kupikisa maonero asina kunaka aFred naGhostwriter. Pattaya yakanaka kamwe chete pagore, uye kana ndikashanya zvakare ndichakuzivisa iwe! Tinwe doro!
@Robert,
Iko kukosha kwakawedzerwa kwevatorwa muThailand hakusi pasi pemitemo yakasimba here? Iyo yakajairika tambo inomhanya kuburikidza neiyo mitemo ndeyekuti mutorwa ane hunyanzvi mune imwe ndima yausingakwanise kuwana Thai. Zvikasadaro, hapana mvumo yekushanda ichapihwa. D-tech yaive neNorwegian CEO kwemakore akati wandei, asi iro danho rinopfuura avhareji yeboka renyanzvi.
Kana zvasvika pakutanga bhizinesi rako, zvinhu zvakasiyana, chero iwe uchihaya vashandi vana veThai kune wese mutorwa.
Nekudaro, ini handizive chero mienzaniso yevanhu vasina kutumirwa uye vakawana basa vega pakambani yeThai uye vakabhadharwa zvakanaka nazvo, kunze kwekutapa nhau kweChirungu. Kunyangwe iyo BP ichibhadhara nzungu kune vayo Chirungu-mutauro edhita. Vatori venhau vanoongorora vakaita saErika Frey vanopindawo munjodzi yekukandwa mutirongo vachipomerwa mhosva yekunyomba uye kubiridzira ...
@Cor - mitemo yakasimba, hongu. Zvakadaro kune mafarang mazhinji ane mabasa akanaka pano, kazhinji ane dzidzo yepamusoro. Kazhinji kumakambani ekunze, asiwo kumakambani eThai. Mazhinji ekutengeserana uye ehunyanzvi mabasa. Munguva ichangopfuura akasangana Swede aishanda purogiramu Kasikorn kubhengi. Kana vachinyatsokuda, vanogona kuratidza kuti muThai haagone kuita basa iro, ndinotenda. Vanhu vanowanzo chinja kana vasvika pano. Saka nhepfenyuro yepakutanga, ndokutsvaga pano ini. Models, chimwe chikamu chaunogona kugara uchisangana nacho. Bangkok izere nemhando diki dzekuMadokero. Asi iyo haisisiri sarudzo kune vazhinji pane ino blog 😉 Dzikamai vanyoro, kusanganisira vakasaina pasi, kusanganisira vakasaina pasi!
Wadiwa Robert,
Unorevei kutarisa mutema? Kana iwe uchida kutama, iwe unoda kufambira mberi, handiti? Ndinofunga kuti zvingava zvakakodzera kuyera zvakanakira nezvazvakaipira. Ini ndiri muzvinabhizimusi uye mukana kuburikidza nekupfuura uye ndinoita sarudzo dzine njodzi mazuva ese, kunyangwe zvakaverengerwa uye kwete sehuku isina musoro. Uyezve, haisi nguva dzose pamusoro pezvinhu zvokunyama, asi kune, somuenzaniso, vana vanobatanidzwa kana zvimwe zvikonzero zvechimiro chepfungwa.
Chikwata chauri kutaura nezvacho ndechevadiki, vakadzidza zvikuru (mushure me1980), avo vangangove vasina kuzobudirira munyika yavo uye vasina huku kana nhiyo pano. Vaenzi vakazvionera kuti vachagara vachitamba yechipiri fiddle munyika yavo, dai zvisina kudaro vangadai vakagara. Vanhu verudzi irworwo vanofanira kurasikirwa nei? Vanhu vakura zvishoma, saGhostwriter neni, uye vanofanirwawo kushandira mari, pamwe vane izvo uye ipapo sarudzo inova yakaoma.
Ini zvakare ndinoziva akawanda mafarangs asina kuendeswa, asi akaenda ikoko pane spec ndokutanga kambani webhusaiti yavo uye iwe unodaidza vanhu ivavo nemweya webhizimusi? Mukuona kwangu, iboka revanotsvaka rombo rakanaka vanodzingirira mboro yavo vachinyepedzera kubudirira kupfuura zvavari chaizvo, asi kazhinji havakodzeri munyu uri muporiji.
Wadiwa Fred - Ini ndinounganidza kubva mumhinduro dzako dzaungangofungidzira kuti vanhu vanotamira kuThailand nekuti hapana chavanorasikirwa nacho, kana kuti vari kudzingirira nhengo dzavo dzesikarudzi. Iwayo maonero akaganhurirwa uye asina kunaka ezvinhu. Pamusoro pevanhu vazhinji vanowira muchikamu ichocho, kune vanhu vazhinji pano vane hupenyu 'hwakajairika', vanoshanda, vakaroora farang kana Thai, uye vakatenga imba pano. Uye havasi vose varume zvakare. Semuenzaniso, mumwe mushandi akasununguka wekuPoland wandinoziva kubva kuBKK aive nebasa rakanaka kwazvo muLondon, asi akarisiya mushure memakore matatu nekuti akasuwa Thailand zvakanyanya. Kambani diki mune graphic dhizaini yakatangwa pano. Semuenzaniso, shamwari yangu yekuPhilippines yanga ichishanda muNew York kweanenge makore mana ikozvino, uye iri kutamba nepfungwa yekudzokera kuBangkok. Ziva zvakare vamwe vakadzi vekuAustralia vakabudirira muchikamu chekushanya, vachishandira mahotera eThai. Asi pamwe – tichitarisawo mhinduro yaGringo yekuti 'ndingayeverepi muenzaniso werudzi urwu' - haungosangane nerudzi urwu rwevanhu kana usingashandi pano.
Chimwe chinyorwa nezve 'new expats' yandaona nhasi
http://business.blogs.cnn.com/2011/09/19/expat-assignment-cry-baby-international-schools/?hpt=hp_mid
Mhoro Fred,
Iwe wakandinzwisisa chaizvo uye ini handikwanise kuwedzera chimwe chinhu kune izvi. Ndatenda nemhinduro yako.
Rukwaziso rwose
GhostWriter.
@ Robert: oh, o, rombo rakanaka sei kuti kunewo chizvarwa chitsva cheDutch expats muBKK, avo vakabudirira sewe, asi vanofanira kushanda nesimba - kunyange zvakaoma kupfuura muNetherlands. Vangani verudzi urwu vaunoziva, Robert? Iyo Netherlands inogona kuenderera mberi nazvo, handiti?
Zvakanaka, ini handivazivi uye - ndinotaura ndichichema kubva pamusoro pekabati yangu - handidi kuziva avo vanowanzo bhowekana vanoshanyira anonzi mabhawa emazuva ano mushure mekuswera kuhofisi. Semunhu ari pamudyandigere muPattaya, ndipe boka iro “risina chasara kurasikirwa nacho.” Havangakuvadzi nhunzi pano uye vanowanzova vanhu vanonakidza.
Ini ndinobvumirana zvachose naFred paanotaura kuti vechidiki vese havafanirwe kuuya kuThailand kune hupenyu hwakanaka uye bhizinesi rakabudirira.
Zvino ngativei vakakomba: maererano nemishumo yese, vangangosvika zviuru gumi vanhu vechiDutch vanogara muThailand. Iro rinofanira kunge riri boka rakasanganiswa kwazvo, chidzidzo chikuru sechirongwa chekupedza kudzidza kumudzidzi weSociology/Anthropology. Semuyenzaniso, kana Embassy yaizondipa mvumo yekuferefeta uye kunyora mazita evanhu vakanyoreswa vechiDutch, ini ndaigona kuzviitawo. Handichafanira kushanda (zvakaoma) zvakare. Chii chine chokwadi ndechekuti izvi zvinopa ruzivo rwunokatyamadza kune wese munhu - kusanganisira iwe Robert.
Ini ndinobvumirana zvakanyanya naGringo nekuti nei tichifanira kushoropodzana uye kuisana mumabhokisi? Ndinoona kuti zvidiki uye ngatikoshesane zvakanyanya maererano nehunhu uye hunhu hwemunhu. Asi zvinotonyanya kukosha, remekedzanai, nekuti zvaizobhowa kana tese takafanana. Usafunge zvisina kunaka asi zvakanaka, nekuti izvo zvinoita kuti hupenyu huwedzere kunakidza pasi rino. Kuva mupfumi pano ifungidziro isiriyo, nekuti ndakaona vakawanda vanobva kunze kwenyika vachidzokera kumba nehomwe dzisina chinhu.Kuwira murudo kunorasika, uye kuisa zvese muzita reThai kukumbira dambudziko. Zvakadaro, ndinoziva gumi nembiri shamwari dzakapfuma zvakanyanya mukutengesa zvivakwa, kunyanya nekutenga nekutengesa nzvimbo. Izvi zvinoramba zviri izvo zvakachengetedzeka uye zvinofadza zvekudyara munguva yepakati nerefu.Asi ndinozivawo vamwe vanhu vazhinji vekunyika yedu vanowana raramo yakanaka uye vanogutsikana, nekuti havana dambudziko nemitero, maakaundendi, masangano emabasa, nezvimwe. Vanhu vane makaro havambogutsikani uye havafari. Kwete pano kana muchikamu chekupedzisira cheparadhiso pasi pano, pandisina chandinoshaya. Pakupedzisira, zvese nezve pluses, uye ndinozviwana zvakanyanya pano kupfuura mune dzimwe nyika zhinji dzandakagara nekugara. Iyo Thailand ine iyo isina simba euro Ndinobvuma kuti haisisiri yakachipa, asi unogona kudya zvakanaka zvishoma. Ramba uchinyemwerera uye, tora zuva uye ubate hupenyu, nekuti iwe wakangofa kwenguva pfupi uye kwenguva refu.
Colin, Gringo naHans - neruremekedzo rwese rwakakodzera, ndinofunga tinogona kupa mutsauko mukududzira wekuti ungabudirira here semutorwa muThailand (uye zvinogona kuitika nenzira dzakasiyana-siyana, kwete mune zvemari chete) vanhu vatinosangana navo mazuva ose.ona zvakawanda zvakatipoteredza. Zuva rega rega ndinoona kushanda (zvishoma) vechidiki vari kuvaka ramangwana pano nemufaro uye kubudirira, uye zvinhu zvingave zvakati siyanei kwauri. Nyaya dzaColin nevanhu vaanosangana navo vanotaura vega. Chokwadi chinenge charambira pakati, ngatichisiyei ipapo topedza nhaurirano iyoyo.
@Hans - Ndinogona kupindura mubvunzo wako zviri nyore: nekuti vamwe vagari vanoomerwa kana imwe nzvimbo yegungwa ichitaurwa mune yakaipa mamiriro.