Economics, unonzwisisa here?
Hupfumi hwave kufamba sedumwa zvakare, asi mihoro nemari yemudyandigere hazvisi kukwira kana diki uye mutengo wekurarama uri kuramba uchikwira.
Vanhu vazhinji havazvinzwisise zvachose. Mumakore angu maduku ndakambodzidza mutemo wezveupfumi: 'kuwana mugumisiro mukuru unobvira nenhamburiko shoma sezvinobvira.' Kuva akatendeseka, somudzidzi asina kushingaira zvikuru, izvo zvakandifadza panguva iyoyo.
Ndinofanira kugara ndichifunga nezvazvo. Thailand iri kuwedzera, kuyerera kwevashanyi kuri kuwedzera, iyo baht yakasimba, asi vanhu veThai vanoonei? Hongu, mubairo wakaderera uchawedzera neashoma baht, ndakaverenga. Asi kutarisa pamubhadharo wezuva nezuva iwoyo mushoma kuchiri kukupa kunzwa kwekukangwa.
Kana ini ndichiteerera kutaura kwechido kweavo vane mhosva mune zvematongerwo enyika, zvese zviri kufamba muLow Nyika zvakare. Sezvineiwo, vakarega basa vanocherechedza zvishoma zveizvi uye vanofanira kufara nerombo rakanaka ravakaita mumakore achangopfuura kana mudyandigere usina kuderedzwa. Boka rekushanda harisi kunyatsofara kana. Muchidimbu, musagunun’una nekuti vari pamudyandigere varipo ndeveboka rakapfuma. Zvirinani ndizvo zvinonzi nevanoziva, uye ava ndivo vakuru vakuru vehurumende vakadzidza zvehupfumi.
Unoziva here kuti ndeipi nyika yeAsia iri kuita zvakanyanya? Iverenge nhasi muBangkok Post; kuPhilippines. Nyika iyoyo yakawana kukura kwe2017 muzana muna 6.7 uye, maererano nezvaitarisirwa, Central Bank yenyika ine chivimbo chekuti mutemo wemari wegore rinouya uchave wakanaka. Vachatofanira kudaro, zvikasadaro mabasa avo achaparara. Nyika ikozvino ine - funga iwe - 76Ste vakaratidza zvikamu zvakatevedzana zvekukura kwehupfumi, zvichiita kuti Philippines ive iri kunze munharaunda yese. Hupfumi muPhilippine huri kuramba huchikura zvakasimba uye pane mukana wekuwedzera kukura, hurumende yakati. Nehurombo, kushomeka kwekutengeserana kwasvika kurekodha yakakwira uye peso iri pasi pekumanikidzwa uye ndiyo inonyanya kuita mari muAsia pa51 inopesana nedhora. Sezvineiwo, vagari vomunyika vanocherekedzawo zvishomanene zvikuru pamusoro peiyi budiriro yose youpfumi. Mushure mekushanya kwakati wandei munyika, muruzivo rwangu ruzhinji rwevanhu varombo, asi hurumende ichagutsikana. Uye munyika ipi iyo vatungamiriri vehurumende vasingadi kuzvibhabhadzira kumusana?
Kunzwa kunoshamisa
Kana ukaenzanisa nhamba dzine chekuita nekukura kwehupfumi dzakaburitswa mumakore achangopfuura eThailand nePhilippine nenyika dzedu diki - Belgium neNetherlands - saka tiri kuita zvakaipa.
Kana usina kudzidza economics, iwe sebenzi hauzvinzwisise zvachose. Ndisati ndaenda kuThailand, ndakanga ndiri muenzi pane imwe hotera yeVan der Valk. Pfungwa dzangu dzakakweverwa nemufananidzo waGerrit van der Valk, uyo wairangarira chimwe chezvaakataura zvinoshamisa. "Vhura maziso ako nenzeve, vhara muromo wako uye maoko ako ngaatenderere." Gerrit, sezvaaimbotaura, aive nedzidzo shoma yechikoro, asi aive nyanzvi yezvehupfumi chaiyo mune zvaaiita.
Zvakanaka, economics ………. Hazvisi pasina chikonzero kuti vazhinji havatore 'economics' sesainzi chaiyo, asi sainzi yemagariro / yezvematongerwo enyika. Parizvino chinonyanya kukosha maitiro emunhu (mabatiro atinoita kune mamiriro / zviitiko) uye izvo zvinongofungidzirwa kusvika pamwero diki. Nekudaro, iwe unogona kushandisa dzidziso dzehupfumi kubva kuzvikoro zvakasiyana-siyana zvekufunga kutsanangura zvinhu mushure - uye zvechokwadi unotarisira kudzidza kubva kwavari kuitira kuti iwe ugone kufanotaura zviri nani.
Economics ndeyekuchengeta vanhu vanoshanda vari mapenzi uye kutamba manomano pameso avo.
Vezvematongerwo enyika vanofara kutora chikamu mune izvi zvinotyisa.
Munguva pfupi yapfuura kwave nekutumirwa kuti vapfumi vepamusoro vave vapfumi zvakare.
Ndizvo zvinosevenzerwa nevanhuwo zvavo, kune vakapfuma zvakanyanya, zvese izvi zvine muto wedemocracy wekunyemwerera Rutte kumeso.
Isu tinorarama muhudzvinyiriri hwecapitalist inodzorwa nehedge funds nevagoveri vakuru.
Ndiyo economics uye handina kuidzidzawo.
Marco,
Zvose ichokwadi, asi ndichaenda mberi zvishoma. Kana vanhu vakawanda vakavhotera PvdA, D 66 neGroenLinks, uye vashoma veVVD, zvinhu zvingangoratidzika zvakasiyana. Chikamu chikuru chemhosva chiri pavanhu vanoshanda vasingavhoti kana vanovhota 'zvisizvo'. Kubvumirana here?
Tino,
Zvechokwadi ichokwadi kuti vanhu vanofanira kuvhota uye ichokwadiwo kuti kufunga kwemusika kweVVD nevasonganiri kwakaunza zvishoma zvinobatsira kune vagari venyika.
Ini ndinotevera zvematongerwo enyika zvishoma uye vanhu vanobva, semuenzaniso, SP vanoda kuderedza masimba emusika vanosekwa nevehupfumi vachangobva kudzidza kubva kuVVD.
Chipo chePechthold zvakare chimwe chinhu chakadaro, anowana imba muScheveningen yandinofanira kushandira hupenyu hwangu hwese.
Kuvimba kwakanyangarika zvakanyanya uye yedu yakavakirwa-social system iri kupihwa kune mabhizinesi makuru.
Dambudziko nderekuti maDutch anongogamuchira zvese.
Kana vezvematongerwo enyika muvavakidzani vedu vekumaodzanyemba vakakanganisa zera rekusiya basa, nyika yese ichamira.
HAKUNA kubvumirana newe Tino. D'66 inongoda kuenderera mberi nekuendesa Netherlands kuBrussels uye haina chinhu chesocialist nezvazvo, naAlexander Penthouse ari kutungamira. Munguva yapfuura, iyo PvdA yakave nemukana wekuzviratidza sebato resocialist kwemakore mana. Izvozvo hazvina kushanda zvachose. Uye Groen Links haana zvakare kushinga kutora mutoro wehurumende. Iri bato, rinotungamirwa nenyeredzi Jesse Klaver, harizombofa rakaita chero chinhu mukufambira mberi kweNetherlands. Izvo zvinosiya maCommunist SP. Handichataura zvimwe pamusoro pazvo.
Saka ini handikwanise kutevedzera chirevo chako chekuti kana ukavhotera PvdA, D'66 uye Groen Links zvinhu zvingangotaridzika zvakasiyana.
Zvinogara zviri nyore kutaura: izvo hazvibatsiri! Tiudze kuti unoda kugadzirisa sei kusaenzana kwehupfumi? Ndanga ndichivhota PvdA kwemakore, uye ndinosimbisa kuti mubatanidzwa wemapato matatu ataurwa pamusoro apa uri nani pane mubatanidzwa neVVD. Uye SP communist?
Kusaenzana mune zveupfumi hakuna kumbovapo. Kazhinji musiyano wemubhadharo pakati pevarume nevakadzi, kunyangwe misiyano iyi isiri yakakura uye kazhinji inoruramiswa. Iko kune kusiyana kwehupfumi, kunokonzerwa nemasimba emusika, dzidzo, ruzivo, nezvimwewo. PvdA yakakwanisa kutora chikamu muhurumende dzakawanda, kusanganisira CDA, asi izvi hazvina kuguma nekusiyana kwakajeka. Uye zvechokwadi kwete munguva yekupedzisira kabati. Mubatanidzwa weD'66, PvdA neGroen Links unonyanya kuve utopia uye haudiwe zvachose nekuti Netherlands ichaparadzwa pasina nguva.
Uye haunzwisise kuti SP iCommunist? Kubhadharwa kwechikamu chemuhoro, hapana kupihwa nenhengo dzebato rinofanirwa kutevedzwa - bhodhi rebato rinosarudza - SP MP vanomanikidzwa kuita sarudzo nebhodhi nediktat, pasina chero nzira yekubvunzana / nhaurirano, nezvimwewo. hunhu hushoma hwemakomunisiti kudoma.
Wadiwa Tina,
Hupfumi hahuna kutsanangurwa nePvdA kana VVD.
Tarisa hurumende dzakapfuura.
Vanhu vanobatsirwa nezviri kuitika kune dzimwe nyika! Kana zvinhu zvanyanya kuipa, vanhu vanofarira kupomera hurumende yapfuura. Kana zvinhu zvikafamba zvakanaka, mibatanidzwa inobva yashevedzera kuti ndiko kubudirira kwavo!
Mapato edu haana simba kudaro. Ivo vanopesvedzerwa pasi rese nemarudzi ese ezvibvumirano nevemarudzi akawanda, mabhanga, mainishuwarenzi uye shamwari dzezvematongerwo enyika dzepasirese.
Uye kusakanganwa vatambi vakuru varipo, China neUSA.
@Tino Kuis, bvumirana zvachose, mhosva iri kunyanya kune vanhu vanoshanda kana avo vanofunga kuti vakanganwa nezvezvematongerwo enyika, saka vanovhota zvisiri izvo kana kuti havachavhoti zvachose.
Kusagutsikana, kutsamwa, kuora mwoyo, kutya kweramangwana, uye kunyange manzwiro eruvengo, haambove mutungamiri akanaka pakusarudza bato rakarurama, kunyange zvazvo vakawanda, kwete muNetherlands chete, havadi kuti izvi zvivhiringidzike zvakare.
Aiwa, shamwari inodiwa, izvo zvisina maturo, usambovhota mapato iwayo, kuvhota kunongonzwisisika kana shanduko huru yezvematongerwo enyika inogona kuwanikwa munguva pfupi, hurongwa huripo hunotongwa nehombe huru nekutsvaga kunyanya pamutengo wepakati pepakati. Zvematongerwo enyika zvinogara zvakatenderedza zvinhu zvese, kazhinji kuzvinakira, zvisinei nebato. Zvichida FvD inogona kuita mutsauko, asi izvo zvinoramba zvichionekwa.
Sangano rose remagariro evanhu muNetherlands rakaparadzwa zvachose, chikamu nemapato ataurwa pamusoro apa, uye avo vakanyatsoita kuti varangwe.
Kunyangwe ukasavhotera VVD asi kune rimwe bato, zvishoma zvinoshanduka. Kana matako avo achinge arova, vamiriri vese vakakurumidza kukanganwa zvivimbiso zvavo kune vavhoti vachifarira kuzviitira kwavo. Uye vaDutch vari varanda uye vanozvibvumira vachida kunyengerwa.
Ipapo waizofanira kuzviriritira, asi munyika dzokuMadokero hapana anogona kuita izvozvo.
Pamwe muAfrica, asi kuwandisa kwevanhu kuri kutamba matinji mukondinendi. Nekudaro, nzira dzedziviriro dzechisikigo dzakadai sezvirwere zvinouraya dziri kuramba dziri nyore kurwisa, kwete zvishoma nekuda kwemishonga yakagadzirwa uye inotengeswa nemakambani makuru!
Saka ingozvitaura; nyaradzo, hutano uye hudzvanyiriri hwecapitalist kana kuzviriritira uye kufa pa35 nekuti hakuna mishonga? Ini ndinofunga 99,99999999% sarudza yekutanga ..
Wadiwa Dennis,
Ndiani kana kuti chii chiri kudzosa rusununguko uye kuzviriritira?
Kunyanya hurumende ine marudzi ese emitemo nemitemo inotungamirirwa nezvikonzero zvehupfumi (verenga guru guru nemakambani).
Mapato aya haadi vagari vane hushingi asi vanobhadhara mutero vakanaka.
Ndinofunga kuti vanhu vazhinji vanogona kuzvitarisira zvakanaka, asi padanho rekutamba.
Rutte iye zvino anopa 1.4 bhiriyoni mumutero wemugove kune shamwari dzake, iyo pagore.
Anonzwa kuti izvi zvinokosha, mukati-kati metambo dzake.
Bazi rezvenkoti nedzidzo, iro rakatorerwa makore mashoma apfuura, rinofanirwa kurwira mazana mashoma emamiriyoni.
Unoziva here zvandiri kureva, bharanzi ranyura chose.
Uye nyaya yako nezve Africa yakanaka, asi iyo zvakare hupfumi.
Apple haitengese mafoni akakwana ipapo, saka haina kukosha mune zvehupfumi.
Ndakambotaura pano kuti panyika hapafaniri kuva nenzara.
Asi nzara isimba, saka zveupfumi zvinoratidza kuti kondinendi yose iri kuparadzwa sei.
Kwete nekuda kwangu, ndinoshuvira vanhu ivavo zvakanaka.
Ngativei pachokwadi: ichokwadi, uye kwete masanga, kuti vari pamudyandigere vakabatsirikana zvikuru kubva kuhupfumi sezvahwakaita makore apfuura. Chechipiri chokwadi ndechekuti haugone kuenzanisa NL neTH. Kunyangwe hupfumi hweTH huri kuwedzera, hazvina kuita semuNetherlands kuti gadziriro dzekuchembera dzakaitwa, kunze kwerutsigiro rushoma rwevakweguru, semuenzaniso vane makore makumi manomwe vanogamuchira mazana manomwe baht. Mumwe muenzaniso: vavakidzani vangu vanga vachigamuchira penjeni yenyika pamwe nepenjeni kubvira 2. Gore negore vanodzika musasa muThailand nePortugal. Zvino zvinoitika kuti ivo vaviri vakagamuchira yakawanda mumaeuro mumakore 70 apfuura kupfuura zvavakamboisa mari muhupenyu hwavo. Edza izvozvo muTH kana PH. Mune mamwe mazwi: vakasiya basa nhasi vane chikonzero chidiki chekunyunyuta. Mumwe muenzaniso: muzivikanwi wangu akanaka anogara muKorat nemusikana wake, uyo ane makore 700 muduku. Anogamuchira penjeni yehurumende (2012%) uye penjeni. Kudai akaramba akatendeka kushamwari dzake dzekare, angadai akawana zvakapetwa kaviri. Zvose hazvina chokuita nehupfumi, asi nemamiriro ezvinhu, mabasa uye rusununguko rwekusarudza. NL haina kushata mushure mezvose.
Wadiwa Nok, vakasiya basa nhasi nevabereki vavo vaita kuti Netherlands ive yakanaka. Mukutenda kubudirira uku, vanoramba vachisiyiwa kunze kwechando nevezvematongerwo enyika muHague. Dambudziko revashandi varipo nderekutanga kuita, kunyangwe zvese zvavakaita senge 36-awa yekushanda vhiki, mazuva mazhinji ezororo pagore, zororo rakawanda rekuzvara uye zororo rebaba. Zvinogoneka chete nekuda kwekushanda nesimba munguva yakapfuura yevakasiya basa uye vabereki vavo.
Zvishoma zvisina maturo, sekunge vashandi vemazuva ano vanazvo zviri nyore. Kuti vanhu vakura vakavaka Netherlands zvakare chirevo chechinyakare. Ko zvino, kuchera migero kana kuburutsa zvikepe?
Khan Peter
Nokungoshanda nesimba, mazuva matanhatu pavhiki, kuti tiwane muhoro uri pakati nepakati wausingakwanisi kuwana chokurarama nacho. Icho hachisi chirevo chekare. Zvishoma zvemashoko eupenzi kubva kune mumwe munhu anowanzouya nemagwaro anojekesa. Uye zvinoshoreka chaizvo > nedhamu ripi, kuchera migero kana kuburutsa ngarava. Hongu, zvakare kuchera makomba, kuburitsa zvikepe zvakawanda, asi zvirokwazvo zvakare mumafekitori ePhilips, NKF, Calve, unoitumidza. Uye vaishanda nesimba ikoko, mazuva matanhatu pavhiki, anenge maawa masere pazuva.
Zvichienzaniswa nenguva iyoyo, vashandi vemazuva ano vane nungo yebasa.
Ndinoziva vanhu vazhinji vachiri kushanda mazuva matanhatu pasvondo uye vasingakwanise kuwana chouviri. Kungochema kusina musoro kuti vanhu vakwegura vanhasi vakavaka Netherlands. Uye kuti vanhu vakashanda nesimba munguva yakapfuura. Chokwadi zvese zvaive nani kare. Iyezvino Baby Boomers vanofanirwa kunyunyuta zvishoma, vanorembera vachinyunyuta kunyangwe ivo vakabatsirwa zvakanyanya kubva mukubudirira muNetherlands.
Uye nyaya yekuti unodaidza munhu benzi ane maonero akasiyana neako anotaura zvakawanda pamusoro pako pane zvazvinoita pamusoro pangu.
Saka takanyatso siyana maonero apa. Uye chokwadi chekuti vanhu vakwegura vemazuva ano nevabereki vavo vakavaka Netherlands haisi kunyunyuta kusina maturo, asi chokwadi chinorambwa nemunhu, kunze kwako. Saka hunhu "benzi" mune ino mamiriro. Hapana kwaunopa chero tsigiro yemafungiro ako akataurwa. Shame. Uye zvinosuruvarisa, muzuva rino nezera handizivi chero vanhu vanofanira kushanda mazuva matanhatu pavhiki. Ndinoziva vanhu vakawanda vanobatsirwa nemitemo yepamutemo uye vanoda kushandisa uye kuvashungurudza zvakanyanya.
Unogona kunge usingazivi vanhu vanofanira kushanda mazuva matanhatu pasvondo, asi mukuita 'kusunungurwa kwevakadzi' kunongoreva kuti anofanirawo kuva nebasa kuti mhuri irambe ichishanda.
Frans, chokwadi zvine chekuita nevanhu vanoshanda. Kusvikira kutanga kwema6, vhiki yekushanda kwemazuva matanhatu yakanga yakajairika, sezvandakazoenda / ndaifanira kuenda kuchikoro kwemazuva matanhatu. Khun Peter anonyora kuti anoziva vanhu vazhinji vanoshandawo mazuva matanhatu. Ava vanonyanya kuve vanamuzvinabhizimusi vakazvimirira. Nekubviswa kwekuvharwa kwezvitoro nemusi weSvondo mumadhumeni mazhinji, vamwe vanogona kushanda svondo rese, asi ruzhinji rwevashandi vanongo shandirwa uye vanowanzo shanda kwemazuva mashanu. Zvakadaro, vazhinji havagone kuita izvi nekuti vanoshanda-nguva, vakadzi vazhinji muzvikamu, uye/kana mazuva eATV akarongwa kuburikidza nechibvumirano chavo chebasa. Nenzira, French uri kutaura nezve kusunungurwa. Izvi zvinoshandawo kuvarume, avo vari kuramba vachiwedzera kupa zvipo kumabasa epamba.
Frans Amsterdam Handifungi kuti izvi zvine chekuita nekusunungurwa.
Kusvika muna 1990, hupfumi hwaiwanikwa zvakanyanya nemunhu mumwe paimba.
Mazuvano vanhu 2 vanoshanda kuchengetedza hupfumi huri padanho repamusoro iri!
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Hongu, nekuti semhuri inoshanda maawa makumi mana pasvondo paavhareji mari haugone kudya chingwa chakaoma.
Kare ikako taifara neTV kana redhiyo yakanaka.
Kwakanga kusati kwave nehupfumi hwaida mamwe mabasa.
Iye zvino tine zvakawanda uye tinozvitora sezvisina basa.
Vana vedu vanofanira kushanda pamwe chete pane izvi kana vachida kuwana pundutso yehupfumi uhu.
Chichemo chakadii. Chii chakaipa ipapo? Kushanda nesimba hakuna chaunowana.
Vana mabhomba varikuchema mukuona kwenyu,asi musafuratira vechidiki.Vanenge vatonzwa kuneta vanzwa izwi rekuti shanda voda "kudzidza" nemari yemutero kusvika vasvitsa makore makumi matatu nemashanu voshanda zvisingaite 35 kana maawa makumi maviri pavhiki.
Uye munguva yakapfuura vanhu vaishanda zvakaoma zvikuru uye kwenguva refu zvikuru, vhiki yokushanda yamaawa 60 kana kuti anopfuura yakanga iri yenguva dzose. Iye zvino ndava kuda kusvitsa makore 66 uye ndichiri kushanda maawa 58 pavhiki.
Uye kubatsirwa nebudiriro? Kubudirira kupi? Vanhu vakwegura vave vachideredza mari yavanotambira pamwedzi kwemakore anopfuura masere. Uye zvisinei nevimbiso yekutsveyamisa Pinocchio, vari kuita zvakanyanya zvakare gore rino
Ndingakuyeuchidzai here kuti vana vanokura vakakurumidza kuenda pamudyandigere vasati vasvitsa makore 60 uye kuti ndinofanira kushanda kusvikira ndava nemakore 67. Saka zvakare kunyunyuta kwakawanda pamusoro pechinhu.
Ndinobva kumhuri yekushanda uye ndinoziva kuti baba vangu vaiwana mari yakawanda sei pavhiki mukutanga kwema2 kuAKU, iyo yakazove AKZO. Ndinoyeukawo kuti ndaiwana 18 guilders paawa ndiri munhu ane makore 1971 okuberekwa pamupfuri wemhangura... Maiva muna 18. Ndakashanda kwevhiki nhanhatu papick-up, amplifier nemaspeaker maviri. Ane makore gumi nemasere ekuberekwa zvino anobata zvakawanda uye kuti zvirinani kuisirwa zvakare kunodhura zvishoma…. Penjeni yangu nepenjeni yehurumende mumakore maviri pandine makore 66 pamwe nemwedzi mitatu yakawanda pane yandiri kuwana semuhoro. Ndashanda nguva yakazara kwemakore anopfuura makumi matatu, asi kwemakore maviri apfuura ndanga ndichishanda 80% mazuva mana pane mashanu. Izvo zvichave zvishoma kana ndikasarudza (yesarudzo yangu uye mutoro) kugara neasingashandi (mudiki 🙂 ) mudiwa. Ndakafamba kunyika makumi masere uye handina kugara pamhenderekedzo yegungwa asi ndakanyatsotaura nevanhu pamatanho ese. Nyangwe chiri chokwadi zvakataurwa naamai vangu... vanhu vanoshanda zvakanyanya vanogara mudzimba diki... Izvi zvinonyanya kushanda kune vanhu vari kunze kweNetherlands vanobudisa shangu dzedu, zvipfeko, zvimwe zvinhu (zvinodhura) uye zvimwe zvekudya kwatiri.
Iye ane makore gumi nemasere ekuberekwa zvino anogamuchira hushoma hwemaeuro mana paawa.
2 guilders muna 1971 aive nesimba rekutenga rakafanana ne3.66 euros muna 2016.
Saka zvimwe zvishoma zvinobatwa.
http://www.iisg.nl/hpw/calculate-nl.php
Pension ndiyo mihoro yakaderera. Inosimudzwa nemushandirwi uye mushandi pachavo. Penjeni yakanaka, sechikamu chemamiriro emabasa echipiri, yakaita kuti vanhu vazhinji vasarudze, uye vachiri kuita, kusarudza mumwe mushandirwi. Hongu, hazvina musoro kutaura kuti vavakidzani vako vangadai vakagamuchira zvakawanda mumakore mashanu kupfuura ivo, pamwe chete nemushandirwi wavo, vangadai vakabhadhara kana kuregedza muhoro wavo, toti, makore makumi mana apfuura. Uye iyo nyaya yekuti vanoenda kuThailand nePortugal gore rega rega ibhizinesi ravo uye harina basa. Sezvaringave riri bhizinesi rako zvawaizoita nemari yako kana, semuenzaniso, wakaisa mari muakaundi yekuchengetedza gore rega rega kwemakore makumi mana. Nok, chokwadi ndechekuti vari pamudyandigere vave vachidzikira maererano netnet expenditure yepenjeni yavo kwemakore uye parizvino havasi kugovera muhari dzepenjeni dzakawandisa nekuda kwemhedzisiro yakanaka yekudyara. Neiko, chero bedzi vakadaro, vasingafaniri kunyunyuta pamusoro pazvo?
Ndakatanga kupindura ndichiti tinofanira kutaura chokwadi. Saka tora nguva yako uye uverenge chinyorwa chakabatanidzwa chaMarch 2017. Munhu wose anonzwisisa kuti kunyunyuta kwakaipa kuDutch tsika nhaka. Kana kuti kunyunyuta kunofanirwa kuziviswa sechiDutch Showpiece?
https://www.volkskrant.nl/economie/gepensioneerden-benadeeld-in-nederland-ja-en-nee-aldus-cijfers-cbs~a4470905/
Nok, kana iwe uchifunga kuti maonero ekuti vanodya penjeni, kusanganisira neni, anga achidzikira zvakanyanya kwemakore pasi pemusoro wekuti 'kunyunyuta', ikodzero yako. Asi nei ndichifanira kuramba ndakanyarara kana vezvematongerwo enyika vachiratidza kufambira mberi kwehupfumi hweNetherlands ini ndisingaoni chero chinhu maererano nemari inoraswa? Ndinonyatsoziva kuti ndiri kuita zvakanaka chaizvo mune zvemari zvichienzaniswa nevagari vazhinji veThailand. Sezvineiwo, ndakava nomukana wokushanda ikoko kubvira pazera ramakore 17, ndichifunda mumadekwana, kutozosvikira ndava nemwedzi 65 + 3 (saka makore 48), zvikurukuru mukutenderera mashifiti namaawa ousiku, uye nokudaro kuvaka mudyandigere. Usazviona sekubudirira uye ndinotenda kuti ndakakwanisa kushanda kwenguva yakareba. Ini handitomboziva shanje, uye kwete zvevavakidzani vangu, vangave vane imba yechipiri, sekutaura, kutenga mota nyowani, kicheni, imba yekugezera kana chero, kana kupedza nguva yakareba munzvimbo dziri kure gore rega rega, kusanganisira Thailand. Ini ndaitoziva icho chinyorwa kubva kuVolkskrant, chakambokurukurwa paThailandblog, saka handisi kuzotambisa mamwe mazwi pairi izvozvi. Nenzira, mubvunzo unoshamisa kubva kwauri kuti utaure uchinyunyuta chiDutch Showpiece. Kune vanhu vanogunun'una pasi rose uye ndeye cliché kuti vanhu vose vechiDutch vanogara vachinyunyuta, sezvakangoita maDutch aizopfeka clogs en masse uye vose veBelgian vaizova vanhu vanofadza chete.
Zvinofungidzirwa kuti vanhu vakura vane imba inobhadharwa, izvo zvisiri izvo uye vanhu vane chirongwa chakatsanangurwa chemupiro (mudyandigere) vanowanzova nepenjeni yemadhora mazana mashoma emaeuro mushure mekushanda kwehupenyu hwose. Munhu anodyidzana naye anongodarika 1100 euros incl state pension uye akati wandei. Izvi zvinoshandawo kune ramangwana nechirongwa chemupiro chakatsanangurwa.
https://www.rtlz.nl/finance/personal-finance/na-een-leven-lang-werken-maar-350-euro-pensioen-maand
Nhamba dzinoratidza kuti kubva munenge muna 1997, purofiti yemakambani yakanga isingachagoverwi zvakaenzana pakati pekambani/ manejimendi nevashandi. Izvi zvinoshanda kunyika dzakawanda. Hupfumi huri kukura, asi mihoro inobatsira makambani zvakanyanya. Izvi hazviisi mari muvanhu asi mumatekinoroji anoita kuti vashandi vashaye basa, senge marobhoti. Pamusoro pezvo, makambani anodyara mune mamwe makambani (kutenga/kutengesa mashare; kubatanidzwa). Ivo varipo vanogovanisa (mamwe makambani mazhinji, vanoisa mari uye zvishoma mudiki investor) vanobatsirwa neizvi, asi kwete mushandi kana Jan Modaal. Vatsigiri vadiki vanobatsirikana kupfuura vashandi uye nekudaro mari inowedzerwa pamutengo webasa. Tarisiro ndeyekuti makambani ekuAmerica achabhadhara mutero wakaderera achaedza kutenga vagovanisi vasingade (seChinese, Mexicans) kana kudzorera migove yavo. Wepakati weAmerica haabatsirike kubva pane izvi zvachose uye haape chero rimwe basa rekuwedzera.
Mamiriro acho haashanduke kwenguva ino nehurumende yecapitalist (inenge kwese kwese muEurope, America neAsia), mukufungidzira kwangu.
Vashandi vangangowana zvimedu zvishoma mumakore anotevera (zvakakosha nekuti mabhizinesi madiki uye epakati nepakati anogara nemari yevatengi) uye izvi zvichavharidzira chokwadi chekuti mari yakawanda iri kuitwa kuseri kwezviitiko nemakambani nevanogovana navo, zvimwe kana zvishoma zvinofambiswa nehurumende dzakasununguka.
Uye ndivanaani ivavo vanoisa mari? Ndizvozvo, mari yako neyangu yepenjeni, mainishuwarenzi, mamwe mabhanga. Murume mukobvu uya akapfeka sutu ine mitsetse nefodya hombe akanga atova mufananidzo wechinyakare panguva yeSDAP yaTroelstra.
Ndinobvumirana newe, asi chii chinogadzirisa? Tinofanira kugamuchira izvi tisingaite uye nekugunun'una here kana kuti tinofanira kuenda kunzvimbo dzakavharirwa?
Vese vashandi vekugadzira, nezvimwewo, enda kumba, uchitsiviwa nemarobhoti uye ugounza muhoro wekutanga? Vari kutozviedza muFinland uye zvinonyatsobudirira sezvandinozvinzwisisa.
https://joop.bnnvara.nl/nieuws/finland-test-onvoorwaardelijke-basisinkomen-en-weerlegt-belangrijk-argument-critici
€540 pamwedzi…
Kana iwe uchida kupwanya mafafitera ako pazvivharo izvozvo...?
Imwe yemhinduro ndeye rudzi rutsva rwehupfumi husina kubva pamari uye kukura. Tiri kushanda nesimba pane izvi munyika dzakawanda. Ingori Google P2P network uye commons economics.
Economy…. Vanhu vazhinji vanorangarira kumutswa nechimwe chinhu, asi yanga isiri ruzha kubva kubhero ... tisingataure pakarembera mbama. Hongu, hupfumi huri "kumhanya sedumwa", nemamwe mazwi: kukura kwe…
Maererano nekuverenga kwekutanga, GDP (yechikamu chechipiri che2) yakanga iri 2017 muzana yakakwirira kudarika chikamu chechipiri che3,3. Zvitatu zvinoshamisa, pfungwa, zvitatu
Kudzikira kunofanirwa kutanga kubhadharwa, uye kuchengetedza kwakapfuura mukati memakore 8+ apfuura (A'dam: € 5 BILLION mukugadzirisa kwakapfuura kweiyo quays, nekuti ngoro nemarori ane 40 - 1 matani haana kushandiswa mumakore makumi mana apfuura. , asi misodzi inotenderera nematani makumi mana emusanganiswa).
Ipapo kuwedzera kwehuwandu, nekuti inoreva huwandu hwevanhu, uyezve mihoro yevadzidzisi, mapurisa, mauto, kuputika mudzimba dzeGroningen, nezvimwe.
Chii chinoramba ipapo ... chaizvoizvo hapana 25% yakakwirira mihoro uye zvechokwadi hapana mudyandigere, izvo zvinoenderana 20-25% dhipoziti uye vamwe vanodzoka pamusoro pemari, izvo zvave zvichiodza mwoyo kwemakore. Nenzira: nekuda kweiyo mibairo yakaderera yakafanana, iyo yakabatana (=Nyika) chikwereti chemubereko chavewo chiseko. Fungidzira kungo +1% mubereko wepamusoro paiyo € 470 bhiriyoni, uye iwe une huwandu hwekucheka kwakaitwa Wilders kubva kuCatshuis pane kushinga kutarisana neCDA.
Kuchiparadzanisa kuruboshwe kana kurudyi hachisi chinhu kunze kwekuregeredza zvisungo, izvo zvinoita kuti vamwe vapere uye dzimwe nguva vanovhota netsoka dzavo. Mutsetse unobva kuLanaken uchienda kuKapelle uzere nedzimba dzevapoteri dzechiDutch dzichiri kushanda. Iyo yasara iyo isingachashandi iri kuSpain, Thailand, nezvimwe
Chekupedzisira: chii kwauri iwe sewe pamudyandigere muThailand, saka zvakasimba uchifarira kugara ikoko nemitengo yakaderera yekurarama, chii chiri kuitika muNetherlands kana kunze kwenyika? EU inoitika here? Yakakwira nguva yekugadzirisa mabhenefiti emagariro, kusanganisira AOW, kune mutengo-we-kurarama musimboti.
Wadiwa Harrybr,
Makore mashomanana apfuura ndakafungawo (ndisati ndaenda kuThailand) kuti mari yekugara muThailand yaizova shoma pane yeNetherlands. Ndakadzoka kumba kubva mukumuka zvisina tsarukano, nekuti kunyangwe ndine mari yepenjeni yakawanda, kugara muThailand kunondidhurira kupfuura kare. Kana iwe uchigara seavhareji yeThai, mari yacho ishoma, asi ini ndiri munhu wechiDutch ane maitiro angu netsika, kunyangwe ini ndakadzimwa. Ne, pakati pezvimwe zvinhu, kuva neimba yako, motokari uye mudhudhudhu kuti ugare muThailand uye kwete kungoda kugara kuseri kweThai geraniums, mitengo yacho inofananidzwa uye kazhinji yakatokwira kupfuura iyo muNetherlands.
Ndinobatikanawo zvikuru nehama dzangu, kunyange nemi. Ini kazhinji ndine zvinofarirwa nevanhu pamwoyo uye ndinoda kukukumbira kuti uite zvimwe chete uye kuti urege kutaura zvirevo sekuti chii kwauri semunhu akarega basa zvinoitika muNetherlands uye/kana EU. Matauriro akashata chaiwo anogumbura vanhu vazhinji pano. Asi pamwe ndicho chinangwa chako, saka ndinoziva zvakakwana.
Kana iniwo ndichida tom jam khung, Chang Beer, Château de Loei uye waini yemupunga muNetherlands panzvimbo yechikafu chemuno, ichadhurawo yakawanda. Asi ... ndiyo sarudzo yako, mashandisiro aunoda kushandisa mari yako. Ipapo usanyunyute kuti mari yako yakawandisa pane yawakaronga. Sezvo chirevo chekare cheDutch chinoti: "tora piss".
Harry, zvinoreva here kuti munhu haasisina kusununguka kusarudza zvaanoda kuita nemari yake? Anoda kugara kupi? Uye vanhu vanoita zvisarudzo zvipi muupenyu? Ndizvo zvandaishandira makore ese aya? Zvinokunetsa here kuti ndinogara muimba hombe here kana kuti diki?
Mari yekurarama haina kuderera zvishoma muThailand kupfuura muNetherlands, magetsi, internet, gasi, nezvimwe zvinodhura zvakafanana, uye une imba yakanaka zvishoma kupfuura muNetherlands nemari imwe chete. Kune rimwe divi, iwe unobhadhara mari yako yebhuruu inishuwarenzi yehutano, uye haugamuchire chero mvumo pano.
Pazasi mutsara, hapana mutsauko mumitengo, saka sei kugadzirisa AOW?
Sezvineiwo, mutemo iwoyo wakanonoka kugadziridzwa. Sezvakangoita zera remudyandigere wehurumende rakabatana nehupenyu hunotarisirwa, sezvakatosanganisirwa mumutemo iwoyo muna 1954, asi wakashandiswa kusvika nguva pfupi yadarika.
Harrybr
Chinyorwa chinovhiringidza, chandisingapindure. Ini ndinofanira kuenda kuburikidza nezvose zvinonzi kubatana uye zvirevo zvaunotaura uye handisi kunzwa kuda kuzviita izvozvi.
Kana iri mhinduro yekupedzisira. Munhu wese wechiDutch ane kodzero yeAOW yake nokukurumidza kana kuti gare gare akasununguka zvachose kushandisa rubatsiro urwu apo anonzwa akasununguka, chero chikonzero.
Harisi rimwe reHarrytbr's kana bhizinesi remumwe munhu, uye zvirokwazvo hurumende yeDutch, kuti mumwe munhu anosarudza sei kushandisa mari yake yemudyandigere. Handisati ndakwanisa kubata kunyange maCommunist SP mukukanganisa kwekufunga kwakadaro.
Ngationei kuti AOW yakambogadzirirwa chii: ona http://wetten.overheid.nl/BWBR0002221/2018-01-01 : Chisungo chechipiri: Mugari mukati mezvinoreva mutemo uyu ndiye munhu anogara muNetherlands.
Mushure mezvose, mutemo wose wekare wekare wakagadzirirwa kupa vanhu mari muhukweguru hwavo, pasina mari kubva kubasa kana zvimwe zvinyorwa uye zvichienderana nemitengo yekurarama. Izvi zvinopesana nemitemo yekare uye maonero.
Sei iyo Legislare (nenguva yakafanira, nekuti AOW yakavakirwa pane CURRENT (kugadziriswa kwe) mutemo) isingabvumirwe kuwedzera gadziriro iyo mari iyi inotsamira pamitengo yekugara munzvimbo yaainayo kana kunyange mune yake. (Euro) ) nyika inofanira kupihwa? Mushure mezvose, mari inobva kune CURRENT hupfumi uye kwete kubva kare, sepenjeni yega yega IS. (usape Wilders et al chero mazano: vese maMoroccan neTurks vaizongoerekana vadonha)
ona somuenzaniso mapeji 7-8-9 https://www.ser.nl/~/media/files/internet/educatie/scriptieprijs/scriptieprijs_2010/bouwmeester_volledige_scriptie.ashx
Hongu Joseph, wakapfupisa izvozvo zvakanaka. Nezuro, mukukakavadzana kweparamende muThe Hague, chirevo kubva ku50+ kudzoreredza mitemo ine chekuita neiyo 'fantasy' actuarial mubereko wemari, iyo mari yepenjeni inosungirwa, kwemakore mashanu anotevera, kuitira kuti vapenjeni vabatsirwe kubva mukuderedzwa kana hapana indexation papenjeni yavo yaizobatsirikawo zvishoma kubva mukufambira mberi kwehupfumi hwazvino. Chikumbiro hachina kupfuura, iyo PvdA yakavhotawo ichipokana. Mashoko okuti 'kuona mapofu nematsi anonzwa' anoshanda kune vezvematongerwo enyika vakawanda. Pakave nekufambira mberi kwehupfumi, asi simba rekutenga harina kumbokwira nekuda kwekuwedzera kwemitengo yekurarama, kunyangwe kuvashandi vane mari yepakati. Pasinei neizvi, mari yakawanda iri kushandiswa, uye kushuma kwakanaka kunoita kuti zvive nyore kuti vanhu vashandise mari. Uye pamwe nekuti mitengo yemba yakakwira zvakanyanya, varidzi vemba vanozviona sevakapfuma kupfuura zvavari, kukosha kwacho kuri mumatombo uye kwete muchikwama chako. Economics zvirokwazvo haisi sainzi chaiyo uye vese avo vezvehupfumi vanowanzopesana.
Hupfumi hwenyika huri kuita zvakanaka. Asi uri kutaura nezvezvimwewo, uri kutaura nezvezvematongerwo enyika. Izvi zvakatonyanya kuoma kunzwisisa, kunyanya kana munhu asingazivi mamiriro ezvinhu chaiwo. Thailand haisi kukura, chitarisiko chete, zvakare inyaya yemapurisa emagariro.
Hazvina kuoma zvakadaro. Pension inshuwarisi yakazvimirira. Mumutemo, hurumende haina chekuita neizvi. Asi hurumende yeNetherlands yakatara mitemo inofanirwa kutevedzwa nehomwe dzepenjeni kuitira kuti ive nechokwadi chekuti mari yepenjeni icharamba ichikwanisika mune remangwana.” “Mutadzi” mukuru ndiVaDraghi avo vanochengeta mari dzemubereko dzakaderera nekushandisa mabhiriyoni. Izvi ndezvekuti nyika dzeSouthern Europe dzirambe dzichifamba. Chechipiri kukura kwehupfumi. Nekukura kwakasimba kwehupfumi, kuwedzerwa kwemihoro kunofanirwa kubva kuvashandirwi, kwete kubva kuhurumende. Vanogona kungotamba zvishoma nemitero yemitero uye mari isina mutero. Chero zvakaitika. Asi hurumende haina masimba ekuwedzera mari dzemihoro izvo zvinoita kuti mari iwande. Sezvo mibatanidzwa isingachakwanisi kuwirirana nevashandirwi, uye nekuda kwekuderera kwakanyanya kwenhamba yenhengo, havachakwanise kuita shanduko chaiyo, unoona kuti kuwedzera uku kwemari kuri, zvisizvo, kusara kumashure kwemhindu yemakambani.
Izvi zvese nezve mafambisirwo ari kuita hupfumi kupenga kwemazwi. Rimwe zuva unoverenga kuti hupfumi huri kuita zvakanaka (nepo vanhu vazhinji vasina kana cent rasara) uye rinotevera rakashata zvakare, uye vhiki gare gare zvakanaka zvakare.
Izvozvo zvingachinja sei nokukurumidza zvakadaro? Ndakafunga kuti izvi zvinogoneka chete neBitcoin! 🙂
Chiratidzo chakanaka kutengeswa kwemotokari itsva. Izvi zvinoshanda kune ese Netherlands neThailand. Uye kuwedzera kwezororo, hongu zvakare muThailand. Kana zvose zvichiramba zvichiwedzera, iwe unoziva zvakakwana.
Uye chimwe chinhu chakakoshawo: hauzondinzwa ndichinyunyuta nekuti ndiri kuita zvakanaka. Ndizvo zvazviri nezvose. Vanhu 9 pagumi havanyunyuti kuti hauvanzwe. Iye chete waunonzwa ...
Vana vacheche, avo zvino vose vari kugara mumisha yavo inobhadharwa, vachakurumidza kudzoka kumusha vachibva mukumuka kwakashata. Vanhu vanozviona sevakapfuma nekuti mitengo yedzimba parizvino yakakwira mudenga. Nekudaro, chinokanganwa vanhu ndechekuti mucheki akashata achashanyira chizvarwa ichi munguva pfupi. Izvi zvine migumisiro yei? Kuti huwandu hwakakura hwedzimba hunongoerekana hwapihwa pamusika panguva imwe chete. Nechikonzero chekuti vadyi venhaka vaizviti vapfumi vari kusiiwa.
Kutaura nezve AOW. Kana iwe uri mugari wechiDutch anogara muThailand, akaroora mukadzi wekune imwe nyika, zvino mushure memakore makumi mana ekubhadhara mari yepamusoro, unogona kusimudza ruoko rwako mwedzi wega wega kwe40 euros chete. Saka zvechokwadi kwete mafuta! Uyezve kunzi profiteer nechando chechando...
Van der Valk aive / asiri akanyanya economist semuzvinabhizinesi akangwara / mhuri uyo, mu1995, kwete pasina aifanira kugadzirisa mutero we213 miriyoni guilders nekuda kwemitero yakanzvenga pakati 1989 na1994.
Ini ndinofunga credo yaGerrit isingataurwe ndeye 'rega vamwe vachirova maoko zvakachipa uye vachengete miromo yavo.
Ichokwadi kuti vanhu havasi kufambira mberi.
1% yenyika yakaona hupfumi hwavo huchikura ne87% gore rapfuura.
Zvematongerwo enyika uye bhizinesi zvinoita kuti zviwirirane zvakawanda. Huwandu hwevanhu huri kuchengetwa parumananzombe.
Tichaitei nezvazvo sevagari vemo?
Wadiwa Radjin, Chatinofanira kuita kumira kuratidza kusagutsikana kwako seri kwekombuta nenharembozha.
Asi zvakare nesu tose, munhuwo zvake, tichienda mumigwagwa kuti tiratidzire zvakanaka.
Uye handisati ndaona izvozvo zvichiitika.
Chizvarwa chemazuva ano chakazara sinou pasi.
Masangano evashandi ane nhengo shoma pane zvaimbova, uye vanhu vanozvishandira vapindawo.
Ndinovati Kuzvishandira Pasina Mari.
Jan Beute.
Kana iwe ukatarisa muEurope yese nhasi, iwe unozoona iwo maonero akafanana, ayo iwe aunogona zvakare kuwana mune akawanda maitiro paThailandblog NL.
Vazhinji vanonzwa varombo, kana kukanganwa nezvezvematongerwo enyika, uye, sevakawanda muEurope, vanowira mukusagutsikana kusingagumi uye tsika yehurombo.
Sekutaura kwavo, haisiri hurumende yeRutte chete isiri kuita zvakanaka, panewo kusagutsikana mune dzimwe nyika dzemuEurope nehurumende dzinonzi ndidzo dzakakonzera kuguma kwevatakuri vemitoro ava.
Chimiro chakada kuenzaniswa chakakonzerawo kuti vanhu vazhinji vavhotere mapato ezvematongerwo enyika asiri iwo nekuda kwehasha, kuratidzira uye kuodzwa mwoyo muma30.
Vezvematongerwo enyika, avo, sezvakaita kuma30s, vanotora mukana wekusagutsikana kutsva uku, uye dzinenge nenzira dzakafanana, kusarura uye kuita, zvinosuwisa kuti vakabudirira kutengesa, pasina kunyatsogadzirisa chero matambudziko.
Mapato anosarura kana kuti kunyange kuparidza ruvengo haambofi akagadzirisa zvinetso zveupfumi, chokwadika, nokuparidza kwawo kworuvengo anounganidza avo vakagadzirira kushandura ruvengo rwavo kuva chisimba. Asi ndinofungidzira kuti, sekureva kwevanopopota ava, ndinoona zvese zvisirizvo, ndosaka ndiri kumirira nemoyo wese maonero avo.
Heino zvakare chinyorwa chine tsananguro yehupfumi:
https://www.rtlz.nl/opinie/column/robin-fransman/beste-gepensioneerde-u-bent-rijker-dan-u-denkt
“Chimwe zvikonzero zvikuru zvekuti mari dzemudyandigere hadzina kuwedzera kana kuti kusawedzera mumakore gumi adarika ndechekuti tese tiri kuchembera. Avo vanorarama kwenguva yakareba vanowanawo mari yepenjeni yakawanda. Mwedzi wega wega waunogara kwenguva yakareba ndeyewedzero yepenjeni. Zvechokwadi izvozvo zvinofanira kubhadharwa. Akaundi iyi yakakamurwa kune vese vari kutora penjeni. Vanhu vanoshanda vanobhadhara maprimiyamu akati wandei, uye penjeni yekuwedzera yawedzerwa zvishoma kana kuti kwete. Saka ikoko hakusi kudzikira kana ukatarisa zvauchawana mupenjeni muhupenyu hwako hwose. Pane mukana wakanaka wekuti ichave yakakwira. Asi pahwaro hwegore zvino zvamazvirokwazvo hazvina kukwana. Kurarama kwenguva refu kune zvakwakanakira nezvazvakaipira.”
Hazvisi nyore kuita pol. mapato kana EU kana hurumende, ivo vari kunyanya kuita bongozozo kumahombekombe - imhaka yekuti pane mari yakawandisa kana zvichienzaniswa neinodiwa - vese vana vanobereka vana vakachengeta zvakanyanya kuchembera kwavo uye vari kuchema chema. nezvepenjeni yakafanana. Mutemo wekare wekupa uye kudiwa-kuwedzeredza unodzikisira mutengo wemari = mhindu.
Izvi zvichapfuura zvega kana chizvarwa chese chevacheche vanokura, avo vanorarama kwenguva yakareba zvakanyanya kuti vapihwe mipiro yavo yepenjeni mumaguidhi panguva iyoyo, vangotsakatika. Saka vese vanonyunyuta havasisina basa - ona chinhu chimwe chete pamusoro nemajee ezvematongerwo enyika eThai.
Uyezve, vese avo vakasiya basa vane nguva yakawanda yekunyunyuta nezve chero chinhu uye zvese ad nauseum.
Ndafara kuona mupiro wakadaro wakanaka uye nuanced. Uyewo wakauya nezita rakanaka raunonyora pasi paro. Uye ruzivo rwako rwehupfumi rwakanaka, hanzi kwauri. Vese vabiki vekare avo, vaingorarama nemaguidhi uye ikozvino vanobatsirwa zvizere nerupo rupo rwemaeuro, vanofanirwa kuita nzira yechizvarwa chidiki nekukurumidza. Chinhu chimwe chinosuruvarisa, rimwe zuva vachavewo chikamu cheboka revaretirement vakagara kwenguva yakareba. Zvichida gadza zera repamusoro uye wozomanikidza euthanasia nemari yako?