Column: Hurukuro naKhun Thaksin Shinawatra (Aimbova Mutungamiriri), chikamu 1

Int: Mangwanani Khun Thaksin, kana kuti nditi Tony Woodsome?

Tony: Unoti Tony. Ndinoda kuita kuti munhu wese, kunyanya vanhu veThailand, vashandise zita iroro uye nekukurumidza.

Int: Sei?

Tony: Iwe unoziva kuti bumbiro razvino haritenderi Prime Minister kutonga kweanopfuura makore masere pamwe chete. Mutemo iwoyo pasina mubvunzo wakaitwa neni kana hanzvadzi yangu mupfungwa, asi ikozvino Prayut anoita kunge ari kuwira mumutemo iwoyo pachawo. Zvakadaro kumiswa kwazvino kuchapera, Prayut haadzoke semutungamiri wehurumende mushure mesarudzo.

Int: Asi izvozvo zvinoshandawo kwauri, handizvo here? 

Tony: Ehe, saThaksin Shinawatra handikwanise kuve mutungamiriri wemamwe makore mana, asi saTony Woodsome ndinogona. Saka, kana Pheu Thai angohwina musarudzo dziri kuuya uye mwanasikana wangu Ung-ing ari Prime Minister, ndichachinja zita rangu zviri pamutemo kuti Tony Woodsome, ndonyorera pasipoti nyowani pano paEmbassy yeThai kuDubai. Kana ndangova negwaro iroro, ndinogona kudzokera kunyika yangu norugare rwepfungwa. Ndizvo zviri kuitikawo kuhanzvadzi yangu. Iye anova Nancy Woodsome mupasipoti yake nyowani.

Int: Uye imi mose muchasungwa kuairport, ndinofunga.

Tony: Handifungi kudaro. Nekuti Thaksin naYingluck Shinawatra havachipo. Interpol inoita kuburitswa kwenhau kuti havachatiwana uye mhosva dzese pamusoro pedu dzicharaswa.

Int: Uye zvichaenderera sei? Unofanira kunge wakafunga nezvazvo.

Tony: hhahaha, unenge uchiziva Tony zvakanaka. Mushure memwedzi mishoma, ndinofunga mukupera kwa2023, Mutungamiri Ung-Ing anozivisa shanduko mukanzuru yake. Vanondigadza kuti ndive Semutevedzeri weMutungamiriri weNyika uyezve gurukota rezvemari, Economic Affairs, Home Affairs and Agriculture: 4 portfolios.

Int: Izvo zvinoponesa mune chero mamiriro emubhadharo wepositi uye matatu mavhani pamubhadharo wemutero.

Tony: Kwete, ndinongowana zvandinofanirwa: kakapetwa ka4 muhoro wemushumiri. Uye ndinokweretesa mavans matatu iwayo kuvana vangu nehanzvadzi.

Int: Asi hazvisi zvishoma here, 4 wallet, uye kwete iyo yakareruka zvakare?

Tony: Kwete. Ndakajaira, uye vanasikana vangu nemwanakomana vanozviziva, kuronga zvese. Izvi ndakazviita pandakanga ndiri mutungamiriri wehurumende saThaksin. Ndinoziva kuti havazi vese vashumiri vandinonamata navo vakafara nazvo, saka zvakanaka kana ndiri mushumiri pachangu pahushumiri huna ihwohwo. Izvi zvinoita kuti nhaurirano iri muKanzuru yeVashumiri ive nyore, zvichida yakawandisa.

Int: Hongu, handigoni kuramba izvozvo.

Tony: Uye nyaya haisati yapera. Pakupera kwa2024, mwanasikana wangu achaita shanduko nyowani yekabati. Yingluck anova Mutevedzeri weMutungamiriri weNyika uye Gurukota rezvekunze nekuti anofarira kufamba nekutenga mabhegi neshangu kwese. Tony Woodsome anova Mutungamiriri mutsva uye anochengeta ese makurukota mana. Izvo zvinogona kuitwa muchivande muAustralia zvinogona kuitwa pachena muThailand.

Int: Mamiriro ezvinhu aya haasimudze kushorwa kwakawanda kubva kune mahembe eyero, unofunga? Uye ichange ichirwa mumugwagwa zvakare?

Tony: Tichaedza kuenderera mberi nekupikisa ikoko. Tony achave mutungamiriri akasiyana naThaksin. Tony achaedza kuyananisa iripo uye yakawedzera kuwedzeredza dichotomy pakati dzvuku uye yero. Kuti uite izvozvo, iwe unofanirwa kuita chimwe chinhu kune ese mapato avanoda chaizvo.

Int: Zvinonzwika zvakanaka. Asi iwe unewo here mienzaniso yezvaurikuda kuita, semuenzaniso kune varombo Thais kuNorth East, mbereko yekuzivikanwa kwako?

Tony: Hongu. Rega nditange ndabvuma kuti Thaksin akaita zvikanganiso zvishoma zvekutonga panguva yekutonga kwake. Imwe ine chekuita nemweya webhizimusi wevarombo Thais uye nehunyanzvi hwekufunga kwavo. MaThais angatove ane usimbe uye akapfuma pane kuneta. Pane kuti vanyure mumabhuku, vanoswera vachitamba nemafoni avo. Wanga uchiziva here kuti maThais, uye kwete chete vadiki asiwo vakuru, vanopedza anopfuura maawa gumi pazuva painternet? Facebook, Instagram, IMO, Youtube uye ikozvino zvakare Tiktok. Izvozvo hazvinyatsokuite wakangwara.

Int: Asi dzimwe nguva kupfuma kupfuura nebasa, kana iro basa ratovepo.

Tony: Ehe, wazviona zvakanaka. Iine diki inoyevedza Youtube uye Tiktok chiteshi iwe munguva pfupi iwe unowana iyo shoma muhoro. Saka sei uchienda kunze uye kushanda angangoita maawa masere pazuva, mazuva matanhatu pasvondo mufekitari kana resitorendi nemari yakafanana?

Int: Uye uchaita sei nezvazvo?

Tony: Hapana zvachose, ndinotya. Thailand iri kuita nyika yetik-tok uye basa chairo richaramba richiitwa nevekune dzimwe nyika vakadzidza. Izvi zvichaitika chete kana tikaita kuti zvive zvakanyanya kukwezva kune avo vekunze kuti vauye kuzoshanda muThailand.

Int: Iwe unofanirwa kunge wakafunga nezve mamwe ematanho ekutanga ehutongi hweWoodsome… ..

Tony: Ndizvozvo. Uye zvimwe zvacho hazvisi zvitsva asi hazvisati zvamboitwa.1. Pachave ne1 vhiza yevatorwa vasina mamiriro uye iyo inofanirwa kuwedzerwa gore rega rega (inogona kuitwa online) uye haina mari; 2. Vekune dzimwe nyika vari mumabasa anobhadharwa vanotambira mari inosvika zviuru makumi mashanu zvebaht pamwedzi; 50.000. Vatorwa vanogona kutenga nzvimbo muThailand; 3. Vatorwa vanogona kutanga bhizinesi ravo muThailand muzvikamu zvese.

Int: Wow…..

Tony: Ehe, tinofanira. Ongororo yangu ndeyekuti chikamu chikuru cheThais chakazvipira kune internet zvekuti havagone kunyengetedzwa kushanda kunze kwemba nenyati. Nekuda kwehuwandu hwekuchembera uye kuchengetedza zvikamu zvakakosha zvenzanga yeThai zvichienda, ndinodaidza kushanya, kutakura zvinhu, kurima cannabis, hove nezvitoro zvekutengesa, tichafanira kuvimba nevatorwa. Kune vakawanda vasina kuroorwa uye vakasiiwa vakadzi veThai, izvi zvinofanirwawo kunzwika semimhanzi munzeve. Nenzira iyi isu tinovimba tichachengetawo huwandu hwevacheche veThai kusvika pachiyero mumakore anotevera.

Int: Uye chii chinofanira kumisa Yellow Shirts kuratidzira vachipokana nehurumende yako?

Tony: Kutaura chokwadi, kunze kwekunamata kwavo kusingagumi kwehumambo uye neo-liberal kufunga kwavo, maYellow Shirts haana akawanda chaiwo. Hongu, ivo vanopesana neRed, anti-Shinawatra, anti-Jatuporn, anti-Nattawut, anti-Sudarat, anti-Thida, anti-Move Forward. Asi havasi vechokwadi kune chero chinhu. Iniwo ndinofarira hutongi hwebumbiro uye bhizinesi remahara sehuzivi hwehupfumi.

Int: Tsvuku muThailand hazvireve gutsaruzhinji?

Tony: Kwete, kwete. Handidi kufunga nezvekuenzaniswa nenyika dzinozivikanwawo sewelfare state, dzakaita seSweden kana Denmark.

Int: Sei? Tsvagiridzo inoratidza kuti vanhu vari munyika yakadai vanofara zvakanyanya kupfuura muno muThailand.

Tony: Vangadaro, asi ndidzowo nyika dzine huwori hwakaderera. Uye kuti nepo mari yakawanda inobatanidzwa muhurumende. Izvo hazvishande nenzira iyo muThailand, kwete ikozvino uye kwete mune ramangwana. Iyo yose sisitimu iri pano ine chinangwa chekushandisa nezve 25 kusvika 30% yemari yehurumende pamakomisheni, fake kana overinflated mabhiri, etc. Ndizvo zvinorarama vepamusoro, ingave yero kana tsvuku elite. A good control system, zvakare inotariswa neCourt of Auditors, ichava rufu kune vapfumi pano. Iwo mayellow haafanire kutyira kuti ndini ndakanganisa izvi.

Int: Kunze kwekuenderera mberi kwehuwori, chii chimwe chauchachengetera vapfumi?

Tony: Pachake, dambudziko riripo iropafadzo kune vakapfuma. Mitengo yezvinhu zvakawanda zvakakosha nemasevhisi (girosari, peturu, zvekuvakisa, gasi) iri kukwira uye harisi dambudziko rakawanda kune vapfumi. Uye mari inofamba zvakanaka. Ungafunga kuti dambudziko recovid uye dambudziko rehupfumi rakagadzirwa nevapfumi kuita kuti vamwe vanhu vese varombo.

Int: Saka izvo zvakakwana kune vapfumi veThai?

Tony: Aiwa, hazvina kumbokwana. Hurumende itsva ichaita kuti zvikwanise kushandisa makasinos muThailand. Ndizvo zvinoda vanhu. Uye murombo ari, mukuru muedzo wekuwana mari yakawanda panguva imwe chete. Tichaita izvi, pamwe chete nekuwedzera kukuru kwemuhoro wepasi, ndingafungidzira ne1 kusvika 300% uye kuunzwa kwemari yekutanga kune wese munhu.

Int: Pane hukama pakati pemari yakawanda, mihoro yakawanda uye makasinos?

Tony: Hongu, hongu; kana zvikasadaro hatizodaro. Parizvino, Thais anokwereta mari yekubhejera. Hatichada izvozvo. Saka tinovapa imwe mari kuti varege kukwereta zvakare. Vanogona kuzoshandisa mari iyoyo mukhasino.

Int: Pachave nemakasino akawanda se7Elevens?

Tony: Hahahahh, kwete, asi zvakawanda. Isu tichasimudzira kuti makasino agadzirwe semakorasi emabhizinesi. Isu tatova nefomati yakagadzirira uye mitemo yemubatanidzwa wakadaro. Kana gumi kana makumi maviri mabhizinesi emuno akabata kasino yakadai, kukura kwemuhoro kunoyerera kudzokere kwavari kuburikidza nekasino. Mari inofanirwa kukunguruka uye ndizvo zvinoita bhora mucasino. "Hapana bhuru, munhu wese akapfuma". Yakanga isiri sirogani yebato rezvematongerwo enyika reDutch, Counterparty? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwktszQbCdE)

Int: Asi chikumbaridzo chekasino yakadaro chakanyanya kukwira?

Tony: Tichasuma hurongwa umo makasino, semahotera, anoiswa munyeredzi, kubva kune 2-nyeredzi kasino kuenda kune 5-nyeredzi kasino zvichienderana nezvinowanika (nhamba yeakasiyana ekubhejera sarudzo) nenzvimbo. Ikozvino kasino isiri pamutemo yakatenderedza pakona ingangove 2-nyeredzi kasino, inoshandiswa nemabhizinesi emuno.

Int:                  Zvirongwa izvi hazvizowedzere kupindwa muropa nekubhejera here?

Tony: Ndinoshamisika kana kupindwa muropa ikoko kuchigona kukura kupfuura zvazvaita iye zvino. Asi sezvo kusimudza mwero wedzidzo yeThais hazvigoneke uye zvinotora nguva yakareba, isu tichafanirwa kuvafadza neimwe nzira: kasino uye cannabis. Ose ari maviri zvakare anokwezva evashanyi ekutanga odha. Asi ndinoona yave nguva yezuva rangu rinotevera, zuva rekudya kwemasikati nemumwe musikana akanaka. Tozotaura nguva inotevera?

Int: Zvakanaka. Iwe une mazano anonakidza enyika. Ndinoda kutaura newe zvakare nezvekurima.