Khmer Rouge Comrade Duch akafa

By Joseph Boy
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4 September 2020

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Mushure mePol Pot muna 1998 uye murume wechipiri akaipa Nuon Chea, aizivikanwawo seHama nhamba yechipiri, akafa gore rapfuura, Kaing Guek Eav, anozivikanwa zviri nani saComrade Duch, aivewo akatungamira.

Zvakawanda zvakanyorwa paThailandblog nezve hasha dzakaitwa neKhmer Rouge panguva yekutonga kwayo kubva 1975 kusvika 1979. Pol Pot haana kumboedzwa uye Nuon Chea akadzivirirwa kwemakore negweta reDutch Victor Koppe, uyo akakwanisa kuzadza bhegi rake remari zvakanaka. Jort Kelder akambodana gweta rinozivikanwa rematsotsi 'mafia buddy'. Ndinoshamisika kuti ungadaidza sei Koppe. Handifungi kuti pane mazwi ekuti zvakadaro.

Comrade Duch akafa aine makore makumi manomwe nemanomwe muchipatara muPhnom Phen uye aitungamira jeri reTuol Sleng, rinozivikanwawo seS77, panguva yekutonga kwehugandanga hweKhmer Rouge.

Verenga chirevo chiri pasi apa kune nyaya dzejeri rinotyisa zvakare.

 Khmer Rouge uye kutonhora

S-21 jeri reTuol Sleng muCambodia

Pasi pehutungamiriri hwaComrade Duch, kurwadziswa kwakaipisisa kwakaitika ikoko uye vanhu vanosvika zviuru gumi nezvishanu vakaurayiwa muchikoro ichi chaimbove. Nehurombo, mutungamiri haana kusungwa kusvika 15. Kusvikira panguva iyoyo aigara mumusha muduku uri pedyo nemuganhu weThai.

Muna 2010, Kaing Guek Eav akatongerwa kugara mujeri nedare redzimhosva rekurwadzisa vanhu uye mhosva. Zviri pachena kuti Komuredhi Duch akanga asingafariri aimbova mukuru wake Nuon Chea nokuti panguva yekutongwa kwake akati maVietnam paakapinda muCambodia kuti agadzirise zvinhu, akanzi auraye vasungwa vose.

Mushure memakore makumi mana, mumwe wevatungamiri vane mhosva yekutonga kwehugandanga achiri mupenyu, anonzi Khieu Samphan, mukuru wehurumende yehutongi hweKhmer Rouge.

23 mhinduro ku "Khmer Rouge Comrade Duch afa"

  1. Peter (aimbova Khun) anoti kumusoro

    Zvingave zvakanaka kutaura kuti mukuru webato reGroenLinks Paul Rosenmöller mutsigiri weKhmer Rouge uye haana kumbobvira azvibvisa pairi. Zvinongoratidza kuti rudzii rwemavara akamonyoroka ari kufamba ipapo.
    Kubva 1976 kusvika 1982, Rosenmöller aive nhengo yeMaoist Marxist-Leninist/Red Morning Group (GML) Pakati pa1981 na1982, Rosenmöller aivewo nhengo yebhodhi reGML. GML yakarwira nyika yechikomunisti muNetherlands uye yainzwira tsitsi hutongi hwakasiyana hwemakomunisiti kunze kwenyika, hwakaita seChina, Albania neiyo yeKhmer Rouge muCambodia. HP/De Tijd naVillamedia, pakati pevamwe, vakatsoropodza Rosenmöller anopfuura makore makumi maviri gare gare nekuda kwekare yake yemakominisiti. Kunyanya, kuda kweGML kushandisa mhirizhonga kwakajekeswa, pamwe nekunzwira tsitsi hudzvanyiriri hwemakomunisiti hwakanga hwave nemukurumbira wakashata wekutyorwa kwekodzero dzevanhu. (Kwakabva: Wikipedia)

    • Rob V. anoti kumusoro

      “Zvinoratidza kuti rudzii rwevatambi vakamonyoroka vari kufamba-famba ipapo.” Sekuona kwangu, haugone kufambisa zvakapfuura zvemunhu kunhengo dzebato rose. Pabhasikoro iroro pane 'twisted figures' mumapato ese ezvematongerwo enyika. Saka isu tinofanirawo here kutonga / kupa mhosva VVD neCDA nerutsigiro rwavo rwehurumende yehumhondi (?).

      “Muna 1982, mutemo iwoyo wakachinja. Kabati rekutanga reLubbers naHans van den Broek anoona nezveKune dzimwe nyika (vese CDA) naEegje Schoo (VVD) anoona nezveDevelopment Cooperation vakaziva bato remagandanga rinotungamirwa neKhmer Rouge semumiriri ari pamutemo wevanhu veCambodian. Vietnam yakanzi inhavi uye Heng Samrin sechipopi. "
      Kunobva:
      https://joop.bnnvara.nl/opinies/stelletje-zeikerds-heb-het-ook-eens-over-de-steun-van-lubbers-aan-pol-pot

      • Peter (aimbova Khun) anoti kumusoro

        Zvakanaka, VaRosenmöller vane mamiriyoni akawanda, chimwe chinhu chekuita nemhuri yeBrenninkmeijer. Paultje aivawo nemba kumaodzanyemba kweFrance kwaakaenda nendege. Zvichiri zvisinganzwisisiki kune mutungamiri webato reGroenLinks. Komuredhi Jesse Klaver aigara mune imwe imba isina kugadzirwa uye aine chitofu chehuni mukamuri. Zvakangofanana nemakomuredhi ese aimbova Eastern Bloc, Cambodia, Cuba, etc. Dzvinyirira vanhu uye kugara muumbozha. Pfungwa yekupedzisira yeCommunist.

        • Rob V. anoti kumusoro

          Hausi kushandura nyaya manje? Kubva painotyisa Khmer Rouge kusvika kana kusazvibvisa kubva pane izvi (Pauro akaita izvozvo, handizivi kana maVVD neCDA gentlemen vakaitawo izvozvo). Kana kuti tichasimudza muti pamusoro pevezvematongerwo enyika vanonyengera?

          Pfungwa yekupedzisira yemakomunisti ndeye 'kuunza demokrasi kwese kwese': munzvimbo dzese dzebasa (kuitira kuti munhu wese ave nekutaura pane zvinofanirwa kuitwa nepurofiti pachinzvimbo chekungotungamira) uye munyika dzese. Izvo hazvinyatso shanda mukuita, nekuti kubvunza zvakanaka kana avo vane simba vangaregedza basa uye kuunza hutongi hwejekerere hazvishande ... Uyezve vanhu vanonyengera vanofamba famba. Marx aizopinda muguva rake pane izvo zvakamonyoroka manhamba, semuenzaniso, zvakaitwa neKhmer Rouge.

          • Peter (aimbova Khun) anoti kumusoro

            Communism (munhu wese akaenzana) haisi yechisikigo uye saka inogona chete kuchengetedzwa kuburikidza nekudzvinyirirwa. Kunongova neboka diki diki rinogashira communism, ndosaka marudzi aya ehurumende achivimbawo nekudzvinyirirwa, kuponda nekurwadziswa. Facism uye communism zvinofambidzana. Ingotarisa nhoroondo.

            • Rob V. anoti kumusoro

              Musimboti mukuru wecommunism ndewekuti munhu wese anofanira kupihwa matangiro akafanana (mikana). Saka: munhu wese aive nechirevo chakaenzana munharaunda, munhu wese aive nemikana yakaenzana yedzidzo, nezvimwewo. Hazvinei nekuenzana maererano nemhedzisiro. Semuenzaniso, maererano nemaonero emakomunisti, mubairo wepamusoro unogona kubhadharwa kune mumwe munhu anopa zvakawanda mukuita basa.

              Fascism inopesana neizvozvo, vanofunga kuti vamwe vanhu vakafanirwa nechinzvimbo chakasarudzika. Naizvozvo ivo havana shungu kwazvo nekutora chikamu, democracy nezvimwe zvakadaro.

            • Ruud anoti kumusoro

              Muitiro weinonzi communism ndiyo yekupedzisira capitalism.
              Zvinhu zvose nesimba zviri mumaoko eboka duku revanhu.
              Chimwe chinhu pasi rose chiri kufamba chakananga.

      • Peter (aimbova Khun) anoti kumusoro

        Pachave zvakare nenhamba dzakamonyaniswa mune mamwe mapato, asi zvishoma zvishoma muGroenLinks. Magandanga eRaRa akaisa Makros pamoto uye akaisa bhomba mumba meGurukota reRuramisiro Aad Kosto, vakagamuchirwa nemaoko maviri paGroenLinks kana kuti vachiri kushanda ikoko, saWijnand Duyvendak. Ibato rinotyisa rine vatsigiri vemhondi dzakawanda uye vaimbove magandanga mumapoka aro. Ndaifamba ndichiitenderedza muarc. https://www.geenstijl.nl/1385101/wie_duyvendak_eigenlijk_follow/
        Uye kana iwe ukanyatsotsvaga painternet iwe uchazosanganawo nedzimwe hukama pakati pemhondi Volkert van der G. uye vanorwira zvakatipoteredza veGroenLinks.

    • Rob V. anoti kumusoro

      Nenzira, Paul Rosenmöller akaramba kakawanda asi haana kumboratidza kuzvidemba:
      Mashoko kubva kuTrouw maererano nehurukuro pakati paPaul Rosenmöller naAndries Knevel:

      “Achidaidza kuti chivi chepwere uye kuzvibvisa kwachiri zvakanga zvisina kukwana, Knevel akarayira kuzvidemba ndokusunda mamwe marasha aipenya pashin dzaRosenmöller.

      Akaramba akatsiga: akanga asina kururama zvachose panguva iyoyo, asi akanga asina kuzvidemba. Zvirinani kwete kubva pazviito zvake, kushanda muchiteshi cheRotterdam uye achitungamira kurohwa kwemhuka. Zvakadini zvakapondwa muzita rechiKristu uye kuzvidemba kwakadini kwaunofanira kutaura pamusoro pazvo, akagomera. zvipikiri zvokuvhomora zvipikiri.

      Kunobva: https://www.trouw.nl/nieuws/het-verhoor~bf6b4d3f/

      • PEER anoti kumusoro

        Chokwadi, Rosenmöller zvakare igororo, asiwo sneak yemvura yakachena. Kuita zvinofadza paTV, asi asingatauri kuzvidemba nekuda kwekunzwira tsitsi kwake nehutongi husina kunaka uye chikamu chake mukurova kwechiteshi cheRotterdam panguva iyoyo.

    • Dirk K. anoti kumusoro

      Kunze kwemamiriyoni eV&D, Paultje anewo mari yakanaka kubva pachinzvimbo chake pabhodhi reVO Council (Sangano rezvikoro mudzidzo yesekondari) uye nhengo yeSeneti yeGroen Links (makomunisti eboka reropa).
      Saka munoona, kwaive kukanganisa mushure mehondo uye zvakadaro yaive neruoko mudzidzo uye nehurumende yenyika.

      • Peter (aimbova Khun) anoti kumusoro

        Ehe, nenzira, haisi V&D asi C&A.

    • Tino Kuis anoti kumusoro

      Totaura nezveThailand, mudiwa Peter? Thailand yagara ichitsigira Khmer Rouge, kusvika kumagumo anorwadza. Izvi zvakanyanya kukonzerwa nemauto eThai akadzivirira vatungamiri veKhmer Rouge munzvimbo yavo yekugara pamuganhu weThai-Cambodian. Vakuru vemauto veThailand vakabatsirwawo nekutengeswa zvisiri pamutemo kwematombo anokosha nematanda.
      Mukupera kwemakumi masere uye kutanga kwemakumi mapfumbamwe hurumende yakakwanisa kudzora mauto.

      Ona, semuenzaniso, chinyorwa muNYT: Thailand inotakura mhosva yeKhmer Rouge

      https://www.nytimes.com/1993/03/24/opinion/l-thailand-bears-guilt-for-khmer-rouge-934393.html

      https://www.nytimes.com/1993/12/19/world/pol-pot-thai-connection-special-report-big-threat-cambodia-thais-still-aid-khmer.html

      uye: Pol Pot shamwari yepamoyo: Thailand.

      https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/opinions/1994/05/29/pol-pots-best-pal-thailand/ab3c52a0-5e4c-416c-991c-704d1fe816d6/

      Iwe unofanirwa kunge uchipengera Thailand izvozvi, handizvo here? Ivowo havana kumbokumbira ruregerero.

      • Nick anoti kumusoro

        https://msuweb.montclair.edu/~furrg/pol/polpotmontclarion0498.html
        Wie een veel grotere schuld treft voor de genocide in Cambodja was de VS, de grootste vriend van Pol Pot, zoals uitvoerig beschreven is in bovenstaande link.
        Saka iyo ny.times haifanire kutsausa kutarisa kuThailand seyo honzeri huru.

  2. Harry Roman anoti kumusoro

    Ingotsvaga "PvdA nyowani yasara semutsigiri weCuba neGDR" uye iwe uchawana zvimwe zvakawanda.

  3. rira anoti kumusoro

    Ndakafamba-famba munzvimbo dzinouraya vanhu kakawanda, apo zvidimbu zvemapfupa nezvipfeko zvevanhu vakapondwa zvinobuda kubva pasi pashure pemvura inonaya. Muti wairohwa vana kusvika vafa nemadehenya avo. Chikoro, chakashandurwa kuva jeri S-21 Tuol Sleng. Zvinotyisa kutaura.
    Uye iyi Dutch salon socialist isina tsitsi ichiri mune yekare-vakomana network.
    Kusaremekedza zvachose murume uyu, pane kudaro. Murapi akashata sembavha.

  4. Chris anoti kumusoro

    Wese (anopomerwa) tsotsi, kusanganisira Nuon Chea, ane kodzero yekuva negweta rakanaka.
    Old Moskowicz (muJudha) akambotaura kuti aizodzivirira Menten, achifungidzirwa mhosva dzehondo, kana akabvunza. Gweta rinomiririra tsotsi riri kungoita basa raro uye rinofanira kuriita nemazvo.

    • Peter (aimbova Khun) anoti kumusoro

      Hapana chaunotaura chiri chokwadi Chris.
      Menten akatanga aedza Max Moszkowicz, gweta rematsotsi ane mukurumbira muMaastricht, asi haana kuwana mhinduro. Nyaya iyoyo yakasimbiswa zvakare muHet Parool yaNyamavhuvhu 30 naAbraham Moszkowicz, mwanakomana uye anoshanda naMax: 'Menten aida baba vangu segweta. Anofanira kunge akafunga kuti zvaizomubatsira kudai aizodzivirirwa nemuJudha, ndinofunga. Baba vangu vakati kwete. Handingambodziviriri tsotsi rehondo rakauraya chikamu chemhuri yangu, kana kuti angave ari mumwe wemichina yakakonzera izvozvo.'
      Kunobva: https://www.groene.nl/artikel/scrupules

      • Chris anoti kumusoro

        Nekukumbira ruregerero asi zvimwe nuance:
        Baba vako vakaramba kudzivirira tsotsi rehondo Pieter Menten panguva iyoyo.
        "Ehe. Mushandi wake Gerard Spong akabva amudzivirira. Handina kumupa mhosva. Sezvineiwo, akandishora nekudzivirira Bouterse, asi handina kufunga kuti zvaive nechikonzero. Baba vangu vaigara vachitaura kuti Menten aivewo nekodzero yekuzvidzivirira. Ndinobvumirana nazvo zvizere. Munhu wose ane kodzero iyoyo.”

  5. TheoB anoti kumusoro

    Zvino dzokera kuchinyorwa chaJoseph Jongen:
    Ik begrijp de emotie, maar als je een verdachte geen juridische bijstand in een eerlijk proces gunt glijden we af naar rechteloosheid.
    Sezvataona nemusikana weiyo…, akakandwa mutirongo zvachose asina kutongwa Gumiguru wapfuura nekuda kwemhosva dzisina kujeka uye akadzoserwa nguva pfupi yadarika.

    • Joseph Mukomana anoti kumusoro

      Murombo Pauro ari kuiswa pasi zvakare mumashoko uye anga atofanira kubhadhara. Shungu dzake dzekuva Mumiriri waMambo dzakatopinda mumhino dzake. Asi zvakadini nemumwe villain: Victor Koppe. Ingoverenga nyaya yangu yakamboburitswa: "Iyo Khmer Rouge uye kutonhora" nezve iyi pocket filler. Vapepeti vakatokuitira nyore uye ingodzvanya: Verenga zvakawanda ... Uye kana uchida kuziva zvakawanda, dzvanya bhatani riri padivi penyaya yaYuundai, iyo inotsanangura kutyisa kwejeri reS21. Kwete nyaya dzinonakidza, asi sezviri pachena kune vanhu vanoda kudzivirira mhondi dzakawanda kuti dzigadzirire homwe dzavo. Vanhu verudzi urwu vanotondibhowa.

      • TheoB anoti kumusoro

        Zvakare: Ndinonzwisisa manzwiro.
        Asi kana isu tisingadi kupa munhu anofungidzirwa kutongwa kwakanaka nekuzvidzivirira kunoita nepainogona napo kudzivirira zvido zvemutengi wake, tinogona kukanda mutemo wemutemo mumarara.
        Nehurombo, ini ndinoona mienzaniso muThailand, pakati pedzimwe nzvimbo, kuti matare edzimhosva haana kuzvimiririra uye asingasaruri. Tisingatauri 'Uyo Asingadudzwe Zita', uyo ari pamusoro pemutemo uye naizvozvo anoita maererano nezvaanoda.

  6. Pieter anoti kumusoro

    Yep,
    Kuti Victor Koppe anga ari pane yangu runyorwa rwenhamba achaita chero chinhu nemari kwemakore akati wandei.
    Mari yakawanda (yechiJapani) kubva mudare reCambodian yaenda nenzira isiri iyo.
    Akabviswa pakunyoresa kuCambodia nokuti akanga ava nenguva asina kunyoreswa segweta muNetherlands.


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