Imwe nguva zvakare: Johan van Laarhoven

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5 May 2020

Nyaya yagara ichikurukurwa paThailand blog, kuvharirwa kweaimbove muridzi wechitoro chekofi Johan van Laarhoven kuThailand. Zvino sezvo Van Laarhoven adzoka muNetherlands kuzobatira rutivi rwasara rwomutongo wake, takafunga kuti bhuku racho raigona kuvharwa. Kune avo vanofarira, kuchine chimwe chinhu chinonakidza kuverenga mumagazini yepamwedzi Quote.

Vanonyora nezvebasa rinoshamisa reaimbova mukuru wemauto, Toine Beukering, parizvino ari nhengo yeSeneti yeForum for Democracy, akaenda kuThailand kunosunungura Van Laarhoven, uyo akabatwa nemhosva yekubira mari kubva mutirongo.

Quote inotaura nezve nyaya yaVan Laarhoven kuti vane faira rekutonga mumaoko avo:

'Kubva munhaurirano dzeparunhare nachipangamazano wake wemutero, zvairatidza kuti Van Laarhoven aida kubatsira mumwe mudzidzisi wetsiva wekuDutch kuti atange chikoro chetsiva muPattaya chevana vanotambura. Magwaro akazotorwa nemapurisa anoratidza kuti mutambi wetsiva uyu anogona kunge aitoita semubati wekatsi.’

Verenga chikamu chenyaya pano: www.quotenet.nl/business/a32360716/fvd-general-wilde-van-laarhoven-thaise-cel-bevrijden kana kuti tenga magazini yomwedzi nomwedzi nokuda kwenhau izere.

29 mhinduro ku "Imwezve nguva: Johan van Laarhoven"

  1. Erik anoti kumusoro

    Inhamburiko yakanaka zvakadini! Uye kusanzwisisa kunoramba kuripo kwaunobatsira vana veThai vasina rombo kuti vadzidze Muay Thai tsiva, nyika ine nzvimbo chete yevakomana nevasikana vepamusoro uye vamwari vadiki vanopedzisira vava munyika ine mumvuri yekurwa kwemusika uko, sezvazviri. kwakaitika kuti vana vaduku zvikuru vasina dziviriro yakafanira vanokandwa kushumba dzinobhejera. Asi uvaise muchikoro, nezvokudya nezvokunwa nedzidzo nenhungamiro, ipapo vachasvika ikoko, kana kuti zvimwe zviri nani.

    Kuti nhaurirano idzi pakati paJohan van L nevapangamazano vake dzakabuda nenzira iyi here zvicharamba zvichionekwa; Zvinhu dzimwe nguva zvinotorwa zvisiri izvo. Ndinotenda kuti ikozvino ijana reDhipatimendi reJustice kuti riunze nyaya ye'chitsotsi' yakaziviswa nemufaro mukuru. Zvadaro tichanzwawo kana, kuitira kuchengetedza mari yepamutemo uye nguva ('Oo zvakanaka, matare nematare edzimhosva atova akawandisa ...') nyaya yacho ichagadziriswa nemari yakavanzika, sezvakaita Toekan. mhuri.

    Ipapo nyaya dzese dzinovharwa, kusanganisira kudzoserwa chinyararire kumatare eThai, uye Netherlands inogona kuenderera nemhosva dzakanyanya kukosha. Nekuti munhoroondo yenyika ndinongoona Johan van L segomba mudziva…..

    • Peter (aimbova Khun) anoti kumusoro

      Quote: Iye (nemukoma wake Frans) vanofungidzirwa kuti vari kutungamirira sangano rematsotsi, pakati pezvimwe zvinhu. Justice inodawo kubvuta vaviri vacho mune zvemari, uko kutorwa kwekutora kunogona kusvika ku30 miriyoni. VaVan Laarhovens vanonzi vakaunganidza rombo rakanaka, maererano nefaira rekutonga rinoshamisa iro takakwanisa kubata maoko edu.

      Ndinofunga kuti Johan nemunun'una wake havazvioni sekuputika mudziva kana vachifanira kubhadhara mamiriyoni makumi matatu kuhurumende yeDutch.

      • Erik anoti kumusoro

        Peter, hutsotsi hunofanira kutanga hwaratidzwa zvakare. Izvo zvinonzwika senge clincher, uye manzwiro emukati anewo kutaura mune ino blog nhasi, asi kukwidza kune njodzi.

        Kuti chibvumirano chepasuru chakanakira vasungwa pane kutorwa kwekupedzisira mushure memakore ekumhan'ara zvakare hazvigoneke mune iyi nyaya. Uye zvakare zvinogoneka kuti iyo 'pombi' inoitika nekunyemwerera kukuru…

        • Dennis anoti kumusoro

          Hutsotsi hucharatidzwa uye FIOD neJustice vane humbowo hweizvi. Kungoti havaigoverane newe neni hazvireve kuti haipo.

          Zvitoro zvekofi zvinozivikanwa nemaitiro avo ekubira mari uye haudi dhigirii redzidzo kuti unzwisise kuti zvinoshanda sei. Kuverenga kwakapfava kunoratidza nokukurumidza kuti Van Laarhoven ANGAGADZI asina kumbobvira awana mamiriyoni akawanda nezvitoro zvake zvekofi, pasinei nemhoteredzo iyo izvi zvakaitika. Vavan Laarhoven vakada kubuda muchitokisi cheThai uye vakabudirira. Zvisinei, achafanira kupedza nguva yake muchitokisi cheDutch uye zvechokwadi achatongerwa mhosva yekubira mari.

          Zvikurukuru manzwiro etsitsi evanhu vanoona van Laarhoven zvisina kururama mujeri. Pamutemo, zvisinei, ichi chidimbu chekeke. Magweta ake anofarira kurwa nekuti anochaja neawa. Asi hazvizobatsiri van Laarhoven

          • Ruud anoti kumusoro

            Handifungi kuti ava vanhu vane tsitsi, asi vanhu vanobhadharwa navan Laarhoven kuti vataure pamaforamu kuti haana mhosva yekubatwa zvisina kururama.
            Pamusoro pezvo, kubira mari kwaakaita kuThailand uye kwaakatongerwa mhosva kwagara kwakanyatsovanzwa.

            Zvinofanirawo kuve pachena kuti haugone kuchengetedza mamirioni emadhora ekutengesa zvinodhaka kana iwe usingakwanise kuchengetedza zvinhu zvako kune mamwe matsotsi.
            Zvechokwadi ikoko kwakanga kusiri kufamba zvakanaka.

  2. Henk anoti kumusoro

    Waverenga zvakawanda zvekuita pano pabhurogi kubva kuvanhu vakairekodha yavan Laarhoven. Dzimwe nguva ndaimbofunga kuti vaiva “shamwari mumaoko” ake. Zviri kuramba zvichibuda pachena kuti itsotsi chete rakakanganisa mutemo. Dzimwe nguva ndaiverenga mukuzvidzivirira kwake kuti aibhadhara mutero muNetherlands zvakanaka. Ame hula!

    • Eddy anoti kumusoro

      ndinobvumirana newe chose Henk murume aitengesa zvinodhaka (uye kwete zvinodhaka zvinyoro chete) kuti azvipfumise, uye kubhadhara mutero kuhula yangu, paakada kumusunga akakurumidza kutizira kuthailand nemamiriyoni ake emari nhema epano. akapfuma kutandara uye aine zvombo zvake zveumbozha bungalow….

    • Johan(BE) anoti kumusoro

      Bvumirana naHenk kuti Van Laarhoven akafanirwa nechirango chakakura.
      Asi ndinoda chirango chakakwana.
      Van der Graaf, mhondi inosemesa yaPin Fortuyn semaonero angu, akashanda makore gumi nemaviri ari mujeri. Iye zvino akasununguka seshiri, haana kumboratidza kuzvidemba.
      Zvakaitwa navan Laarhoven zvinoshorekawo. Asi haana mhosva yekuponda. Kubiridzira mari nekunzvenga mutero, sezvakataurwa, zvinoshorekawo.
      Van Laarhoven ashanda makore mashanu nemwedzi gumi ari mutirongo, ayo angangoita makore mashanu nehafu muThailand. Makore iwayo mujeri reThai aityisa uye zvinoitawo mutsauko mumutongo, ndinofunga.
      Handidi kudzikisa zvakaitwa navan Laarhoven, ndiri kungotaura kuti unofanira kuona zvinhu nenzira kwayo.

      • Ruud anoti kumusoro

        Kana iwe usingade kuve mutirongo muThailand, usapara mhosva muThailand.
        Haufaniri kumunzwira tsitsi zvachose.
        Muchokwadi, maThai ari mutirongo akashata kupfuura van Laarhoven, nekuti mushure memakore mashoma havabvumidzwe kuenda kujeri reumbozha sepane van Laarhoven.
        Zvese zvinotariswa, izvo hazvina kunaka kune vasungwa veThai.

  3. Johan (BE) anoti kumusoro

    Mudzimai waVan Laarhoven wekuThai anonzi anga ari chapupu munyaya yemhosva muNetherlands. Nekuda kwe "chikanganiso" (?) cheJustice muNetherlands, akave munhu anofungidzirwa muThailand. Sekuziva kwangu achiri mujeri kuThailand. Tese tine mucherechedzo wekuti zvinhu zvemunhu zviripo sei.
    Mr. Van Laarhoven angango shanda 1/3rd yemutongo wake muNL. Uyu mutongo wakaderedzwa haushande kumudzimai wake muThailand.
    Kana mudzimai wake aizofanira kurangwa zvachose, saka izvi hazvina kuenzana nechiitiko chacho.
    Ndinotarisira kuti Dutch diplomacy uye zvematongerwo enyika vachaita zvose zvavanogona kuti vagadzirise kusuruvara kunokonzerwa neDutch justice system.

    • Ruud anoti kumusoro

      MuThailand vanewo mutongo wakaderedzwa wehunhu hwakanaka.
      Handizivi kana zvakafanana kwese kwese, asi maererano neruzivo rwangu unongova musungwa kwe1/3 yenguva yako.
      Kana iwe wakazvibata zvakanaka panguva iyoyo, iwe uchave pasi pehutongi hwakareruka kune inotevera 1/3 yemutongo wako uye iwe unogona kukodzera kusunungurwa kwekutanga kwekupedzisira 1/3 yemutongo wako.

      Pane zvinosungirwa kuva nezvisizvo pane izvi, zvichienderana nechimiro chako, waunoziva, uye kuti wakatsika zvigunwe zvisiri izvo.

  4. Leo Th. anoti kumusoro

    Chero ani zvake asingadi kubvuma kuti pane kubiridzira pa 'musuwo wekuseri' pane imwe neimwe chitoro chekofi ane bota mumusoro make. Tichifunga mitsetse yakarebesa yekaunda yekuunganidza, ikozvino yatonyanya kuoneka nekuda kwematanho ekorona, chitoro chaizotengeswa kunze nekukasira kana vakaomerera kune zviri pamutemo zvekutengesa stock. Kunyangwe chokwadi chekuti kutengesa kunoratidzika kunge kwakanyoreswa zviri pamutemo zvichienderana nemimwe mitemo, kupihwa kuri kuitika nenzira isiri pamutemo. Kuti mutero wacho watizirwa zvishoma hazvingashamisi munhu, handizvo here? Chichiri kundishamisa ndechekuti vanhu vanobatanidzwa zvakanyanya muzviitiko zvakawanda zvinoita kuti zvive kune vezvenhau vanowanzotaura kubva mubhegi. Zvino nemukuru wemauto, Toine Beukering. Izvo pachazvo zvinoshamisa kuti pakukumbirwa kwemudhara 'gabber', Henni Mandemaker, uyo anoitawo seane basa munyaya iyi, anozvibvumira kupinda munyaya iyi isina kunaka. Kuti Beukering anofanira kubva muresitorendi mukati me3 maminetsi mushure mekutaura zita rekuti Van Laarhoven panguva yekudya kwemasikati aine hunhu hwemunhu neaimbova mumiriri weNetherlands muThailand, murume wake wekare, chimwe chinhu chandinotora nebhara remunyu. Pandinoenda kunodya neshamwari / wandinoziva uye ivo vaisimudza nyaya yandisingadi, ndaingopindura kuti handidi kupinda mairi uye kutora hurukuro kune imwe nzira. Yekupedzisira nezveVan Laarhoven haizonyorwi kwenguva yakareba. Ndinozvidemba kuti musikana wake wechiThai achiri kumabhawa muThailand.

  5. Jacques anoti kumusoro

    Nehurombo, murume akanakisa akaunzwa kuNetherlands nemhedzisiro yayo yese. Pane mhosva dzakakwana kwaari, asi kuita kuti dzipupurirwe pamberi pedare muNetherlands imwe nyaya. Uto remagweta anozivikanwa (averenga anodhura) ari parutivi rwake, anobhadharwa nemari yakawanikwa zvisiri izvo naVan laarhoven. Ichava soseji kwavari, mari hainhuwe here? Kuwana mutengi (zvinonzwika zvakanaka kupfuura tsotsi) mahara chero zvazvinotora ndiwo motto. Zvinonzwika zvakanaka, asi vanhu vane hunhu vanoziva zviri nani. Sipo inoenderera uye ndizvo zvinoitawo kusvotwa. Asi mutemo haushandiswe neizvi, kunyangwe vazhinji vachitenda kuti Penal Code inogona kududzirwa nenzira dzakawanda. Chero zvazvingava, havazomubvisi nguva yake mujeri muThailand, saka kwave nekugutsikana. Kana chimwe chikamu chichaziva kana kuti kwete, tichasangana nazvo. Ndinovimba kudaro, nekuti vanhu vane pfungwa dzeVan Laarhoven ndinogara ndichishamisika kuti vakazvarirwa chii.

    • Johnny B.G anoti kumusoro

      Chikonzero chikuru chekuzvarwa ndechekubereka vana. Basa iroro rakapedzwa uye mupfungwa iyoyo aita basa rake rehurumende.
      Pamusoro pezvo, akaitawo basa mukuzadzisa zvinodiwa nevazhinji vehama dzako, izvo zvaive uye zvinoomberwa kubva kuhutano hweveruzhinji uye aive uye anoonekwa semuvengi kubva kudenderedzwa rinoyera.
      Iwe unofunga kuti vese avo vanoputa ndevakaderera scum uye hupenyu muma50s yaive nguva yakanakisa yehupenyu hwako. Zvingave zvakadaro, asi nyika inoramba ichishanduka uye iko zvino kwakaoma kuti Netherlands iri kutorwa kuruboshwe uye kurudyi nenyika dzinotarisa zvishoma zvakanyanya pachirimwa uye inogona kunge iri kuwedzera kwakanaka kune Dutch kurima.
      Kune imwe pane miganhu inofanira kutambanudzwa uye kune imwe kugumira mberi.

      • Jacques anoti kumusoro

        Wadiwa Johnny, ndinoziva pesvedzero yekuputa sora pamamiriro epfungwa dzevanhu vazhinji. Hapana munhu atove nani, kunze kwekupihwa pazvikonzero zvekurapa, asi ipapo unenge wakashata uye zvadaro zviri nani pane hapana. Ini zvirokwazvo handingarambi kuti vashandisi ndivo vatadzi chaivo verudzi urwu rwekuita. Kunze kwevanorwara, hongu. Kana marara iwayo asina kubviswa, nyaya idzi hadzisi nyaya. Iwe unogona kutaura kuti pane chimwe chinhu, asi iyo haisi iyo pfungwa ikozvino. Van Laarhoven uye vanoshamwaridzana vanoshungurudza vanhu vazhinji, vasina simba munzanga zvechokwadi ndivo vanotambudzwa neizvi, pasinei nokuti vanoziva izvi kana kuti vanoda kuona iyi imwe nyaya. Vazhinji vashandisi vanofunga kuti izvi zvakajairika, asi ingotarisa zviri kuitika zvakakukomberedza nezve zvinhu zvisina kunaka uye iwe unozoziva zvakakwana. Saka vhura maziso uone kuti chii chaizvo chiri kuitika. Mwanakomana wangu wegotwe aibatwawo nemishonga yakapfava pazera remakore gumi nematanhatu neshamwari dzake dzinotonhorera. Aitichengeta takasvinura husiku hwese nekukosora kwake nekukosora. Ndakamubvunza kuti chii chirikuitika, asi hauwane mhinduro. Mwanakomana akatumirwa kuna chiremba uye maererano nemwanakomana wangu hapana chakaipa. Kufonera chiremba, asi ane basa rekuchengeta zvakavanzika nekuti mwanakomana wangu aive nemakore gumi nematanhatu. Ndakazoona kuti aigara achiputa sora asisazvimirire izvi. Mamoods ake nekuda kwefodya iyi ndiwo aitinetsawo. Aiziva maonero angu nezvezvinodhaka, saka haana kukwanisa kutaura kuti chii chaiitika. Iye zvino, anenge makore 16 gare gare, ari kuita zvakanaka. Vakuru uye vakachenjera, tichati. Dzimwe nguva zvinotora nguva kuti vanhu vaone kuti vari kuita zvakaipa. Muchanzwisisa kuti ini ndinoona zvichishoreka kupinda mumishonga, ingozviita ipapo unopenga zvakakwana, amai vangu vaigara vachitaura. Ini handina shoko rakanaka kune vanhu vachiri kuda kuzvipfumisa nebhizimusi iri, irudzi rwakati rwevanhu vandisingade. Kana waverenga chidimbu ichi uchanzwisisa kuti sei.

        • Johnny B.G anoti kumusoro

          Iye zvino ndakunzwisisa zviri nani uye kunzwisisa nyaya yako.
          Kurera inyanzvi uye panogona kunge paine dambudziko rakakura rekuti iwe semubereki hauna pesvedzero shoma pa..

        • Henk anoti kumusoro

          Itsananguro yakanaka Jacques, neniwo ndaifanira kutsungirira kurwa kwakadaro nevana vangu. Kurwa kunoshamisa. Yakave nemigumisiro yakawanda, uye inodhura vakabatwa. Apo vana vako chaivo vachaita chero chinhu kuti vawane iyo nyonganiso. Kumashure kwako semubereki. Mifananidzo yakafanana navan Laarhoven, avo vanongofunga nezvemari uye vasina hanya zvachose nevanotambudzwa, ndeye asocial fringe manhamba, ane tsotsi streak. Chero ani anomiririra munhu akadai, uye kwaive nevakawanda pane ino blog, ndine dambudziko rakawanda nazvo, zvinosiririsa. Nguva dzinochinja, asi ndinobvumirana naJacques kuti iyi semi kana yakaoma zvinodhaka chinhu hachisi chinhu chakanaka. Asi pane mari inotyisa inobatanidzwa, uye vanotambira mari yakawanda vachaita zvese zvavanogona kuchengetedza bhizinesi ravo. Mari inotonga nyika!

          • Erik anoti kumusoro

            Henk, kana ndikatsiva zita rekuti 'Van Laarhoven' na'Heineken' kana 'Chang' mune yako tsinhiro pamusoro paJacques, ipapo kuzvidza kumwe chete kunobuda; kunyadziswa kwakanyarara kubva kwamuri kune vezvematongerwo enyika vanoshivirira zvinodhaka zvinodhaka.

            Asi nezvose zvinodhaka uye doro, haasi mutengesi asi mutengi anosarudza kushandisa zvinhu. Johnny BG anorovera mbambo mumusoro: zvakare inyaya yedzidzo. Kupomera mutengesi zvakachipa kwandiri.

            MuNetherlands kune anenge mazana matanhatu ezvitoro zvekofi kwaunogona kutenga cannabis mune mamwe mamiriro. Haundiudze kuti vese vaibva kuVan Laarhoven, asi unongonongedza kune imwe chete se 'ane mhosva aso fringe figure'. Ndiwo maonero ako, asi wobva waziva kuti iwo 'mupendero manhamba' ehurumende anotenderwa kurenda chivakwa, kutengesa zvinhu, kugadzira BV, kubvunza vanyori, maaccountant nemagweta uye kubhadhara mutero sekunge vari pamutemo, kunze kwe kuvapo kwe monstrum yekusununguka kuburikidza nemusuwo wekicheni ………

            Doro nezvinodhaka zvinofadza uye zviri kuvabereki nevana kuzvishandisa nekuchenjera. Kuverenga mishumo nezve 'kurambidzwa' kwekupedzisira muThailand uye kuwanda kwekudyara svondo rapfuura hakundipe vimbiso yekuti kubata doro zvine musoro kunoshanda muThailand. Iwoyo zvamazvirokwazvo hausati uri muenzaniso wakanaka nokuda kwechizvarwa chitsva!

            • Henk anoti kumusoro

              Ndine urombo Erik, izvi ndizvo zvandakanyora chaizvo:
              Mifananidzo yakafanana navan Laarhoven, avo vanongofunga nezvemari uye vasina hanya zvachose nevanotambudzwa, ndeye asocial fringe manhamba, ane tsotsi streak. Nemamwe mashoko, handina kugadza munhu MUMWE chete. The whole soft drugs thing chinondibata chaizvo. Iyo zvakare inopa mari ye (r) hurumende. Ndosaka vachibvumira! Ini ndicharega kutaura.

  6. GeertP anoti kumusoro

    Zvinondibata kuti maitiro mazhinji anobva kurudzi rwekunzwa kwemukati, kana iwe uchida kupindura namatira kune chokwadi.
    Pakatozodairwa nemunhu aiti Mr van Laarhoven vanenge vakambobatawo nemishonga yakaoma, ukaita zvekupomera zvakadaro chokwadi une humbowo hwacho here kana kuti hauna?
    Johan van Laarhoven akavharirwa kwemakore mashanu nemhosva yekuba mari kubva mukutengesa zvinodhaka, hapana chimwe uye hapana zvishoma.
    Izvo izvo zvinonzi zvinodhaka zvinodhaka zvinobvumirwa muNetherlands zvinoreva kuti mari chete inoramba iripo, kana iwe unogona kuwana makore mashanu mujeri nokuda kweizvozvo muThailand, saka kune vanhu vakawanda vechiDutch muThailand vanofanira kutanga kunetseka.

    • Chris anoti kumusoro

      “pakutengesa mari zvisiri pamutemo kunobva mukutengesa zvinodhaka, hapana chimwe uye hapana zvishoma.
      Pamusoro pezvinyorwa: van Laarhoven akatongerwawo kubata zvombo zvisiri pamutemo. MuThailand (kwaakaita mhosva) zvichida kwete zvakanyanya, asi muNetherlands ndizvo. Asi izvozvo hazvina basa.

  7. Henk anoti kumusoro

    Neruremekedzo rwakafanira GeertP, pane zvakawanda zviri kuitika kupfuura zvauri kufunga.Uri kuedza kuregerera maitiro avan Laarhoven. Magweta chete anotenderwa kudzivirira vapari vemhosva. Vatori venhau veQuote vane ruzivo rwemukati. Uye isu takakwanisa kugumisa kuti pane zvakawanda zviri kuitika kupfuura kungobira mari, sezvaunonyora! Van Laarhoven aifunga kuti akangwara. Asi pasinei nokuti nhema dzacho dzakakurumidza sei, chokwadi chinozochiwana.

  8. Desiree anoti kumusoro

    Hazvina mhosva kuti akawana sei mari yake, iwe unofanirwa kubhadhara mutero…
    Akasarudza kubiridzira mari uye hupenyu hwoumbozha muThailand.
    Chakanyanya kundinetsa pamurume uyu kudzoka
    kuenda kuNetherlands nekuda kwemamiriro ezvinhu ehutsinye
    mujeri muThailand. NL yakanaka zvakakwana kune izvozvo.
    Asi mudzimai wake, waasina kudanana naye kwenguva yakareba
    akapa zera remwana wake mukuru, uye zvakadaro
    ane zvishoma zvokuita nezvaakamboita, angaenderera mberi
    kubuda ropa…
    Saka kwandiri, murume iyeye angori munhu akarasika uye anochema kirasi yekutanga.

    • Chris anobva kumusha anoti kumusoro

      Kugadzirwa kwesora hakusi pamutemo uye ndizvo zvakaitawo kutengeserana nekutengesa.
      Asi kana uine shopu yekofi, saka ndeye pseudo - zviri pamutemo,
      chero uchibhadhara mutero.
      Kana wakabhadhara mutero pamari yaunowana, ichiri mari chena.
      Unogona sei kubatwa nemhosva yekuba mari zvisiri pamutemo?
      Ko munhu anoziva sei kuti unotengesa marii
      Kana pasina anoziva kuti unotenga marii?
      Uye mugadziri iyeye, anokupa iwe haabhadhare mutero,
      nekuti hapana dumbu rinoziva kuti ndiani .
      nokuti hazvisi pamutemo!
      Asi chimwe chinhu hachina kunaka ipapo >

  9. Chris anoti kumusoro

    Handina kutevera nyaya yavan Laarhoven zvakadzama nekuti inyaya yepamutemo yekutsemura bvudzi (uye ini handisi gweta), asi pane zvese ndine zvinotevera:
    1. vanhu vakawanda vakatsamwa nokuti van Laarhoven akapedzisira ava mujeri reThai uye zvinhu zvakasiyana chaizvo ikoko kupfuura kuNetherlands. Nekudaro, izvo zvinoshanda kune vese vasungwa muThailand, Thais nevatorwa. Zvinotyisa, asi kwete kwaari oga.
    2. Kudai gweta ravan Laarhoven rakanga ramupa zano rokubvuma mhosva paakwidza nyaya (panzvimbo pokusimbirira kuti akanga asina mhosva), mutongo wake ungadai wakadzikiswa nepakati. Nekudzokera kwake kuNetherlands aizobva atove akasununguka.
    3. Kana vatongi veDutch vanogona kupomerwa mhosva yechinhu chipi nechipi, vakagadzirisa nekumudzosa kuNetherlands.
    4. Iye zvino akamira uye haachakwanisi kutiza mhosva dzichiri kurembera pamusoro wake. Van Laarhoven aive asina sarudzo mujere reThai: mumaoko eThais uye mutirongo kana mumaoko evatongi veDutch asi kubva kujeri reDutch.
    5. Kare kare ndakambotaura kuti vakadzi vechiThai vangaita zvakanaka kubvunza - pamusoro pemari - nezvekwakabva mudiwa wavo wekune dzimwe nyika. Ndakabva ndasekwa nemunhu wese. Mukadzi waVan Laarhoven haasekerera. Iye zvino ava kuziva zviri nani.

    • Tino Kuis anoti kumusoro

      Quote:

      '2. Kudai gweta ravan Laarhoven rakanga ramuudza kuti abvume mhosva paakakwidzwa (panzvimbo yekusimbirira kuti haana mhosva), mutongo wake ungadai wakadzikiswa nepakati. Nekudzokera kwake kuNetherlands angadai akasununguka.'

      Chokwadi, Chris? Iwe haunyatso kuziva zvakawanda nezveThai Justice. Mapurisa anogara achiedza kumanikidza kureurura kuburikidza nekutyisidzira ('zvikasadaro uchawana mutongo werufu') uye zviredzo zvakaita sekudimura mutongo nepakati. Ikoku kazhinji kazhinji kunotungamirira kumifungo isina kururama. Uyezve, Johan van L. akatongerwa makore 20 mujeri (kanopfuura ka20 mari inotamiswa kubva mukubata mari zvisiri pamutemo inopetwa ka5 kupfuura mutongo wemakore mashanu wekutengesa mari zvisiri pamutemo). Nekureurura, angadai akave makore 50, ayo aifanira kunge akabatira makore makumi maviri.

      • Johnny B.G anoti kumusoro

        @Tino
        Ndinowana pfungwa yako yekuti mutsara wakaderedzwa unogona kuita basa mukubvuma. Munongozivawo kuti ibasa chairo kuenda kudare.
        Paunosvika ikoko, zvakawanda zvakakanganisika mune yakapfuura maitiro uye izvo hazvina kunaka.
        Nekune rimwe divi, panogona kunge paine maBurmese asina mhosva anoshungurudzwawo kuti nyaya iitwe.
        Pane zviverengero zvipi nezvipi pamusoro pekumisikidzwa kweruramisiro?

      • Chris anoti kumusoro

        Ndiri kutaura nezvenyaya dzakadai savan Laarhoven. Vanoziva kuti vane mhosva vanozivisa kuDare Repamusorosoro kuti havana mhosva uye vanoburitswa muhusungwa mushure mekubhadhara mari yechibatiso. Havasi mujeri. Mavhiki mashoma Dare Repamusorosoro risati ratura mutongo wacho, vanobvuma kamwe kamwe, pashure pemakore okurarama pakubhadhara mari yechibatiso, kuti vane mhosva. Mutongo wacho unobva waita hafu uye kana ichiri kureba, zviri nani kutizira kunze kwenyika. Mushure mechinguva iwe unodzoka muchivande uye unongogara pamba (ona Kamnan Poh) iwe uchifanira kunge uri mujeri. Iko hakuna mashoma, asi akawanda emienzaniso yake.

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