Musoro weJanus weThai kushivirira
Richard ane makore makumi mashanu nerimwe okukura anobva kuSingapore anofarira kushanyira Thailand neshamwari yake ine bisexual Li wekuMalaysia. Nokuti pano 'ndinogona kuva pachangu'. “Tinonzwa kugamuchirwa pese patinenge tiri muThailand. Dai ndaiva nesarudzo, ndaizoda kuva pano ingochani kuzvarwa.'
Saka zvichava zvakawanda ingochani vashanyi vanofunga nezvazvo, Tourism Authority yeThailand (TAT) inofanira kunge yakafunga pavakatanga chirongwa che 'Go Thai Be Free'. Pinda nemari yako, nekuti vanayo. Gay hadzina kunzi Funga: mari mbiri, hapana vana. Ongororo yeAmerica muna 2011 yakaratidza kuti LGBTs (Ngochani, Ngochani, Bisexual, Transgender) vanoenda kuzororo avhareji yenguva 3,9 pagore.
Webhusaiti yekufamba lovepattaya.com inokwezva mazana mashanu evashanyi vakasiyana pazuva uye, sekureva kwemuvambi Khun May, ava vanhu vanogona kuchengetedza mapeni mashoma, nekuti vanogara mumahotera enyeredzi shanu. "Havana vana uye vane bhajeti rakapetwa kaviri, saka vanowanzoshandisa mari yakawanda kupfuura vakaroorana vakananga."
Mutemo uye maonero eruzhinji hazvina kusununguka zvakadaro
Kunyangwe Thailand ichionekwa separadhiso ye zvakafanana-zvepabonde vakaroorana, mutemo uye maonero evanhu hazvina kusununguka zvakadaro. Ngochani nengochani hadzigone kuroora uye Thailand haina kunyoreswa kwekudyidzana. Asi izvozvo zvinogona kunge zvava kuda kuchinja. Mukutanga kwegore rino, vanorwira kodzero vakatanga kurwisa bhiri remutemo weCivil Partnership Bill. Vanoshandisa Article 30 yeBumbiro reMitemo, iyo inorambidza rusarura nekuda kwepabonde.
Kuburikidza neNational Human Rights Commission (NHRC), kurudziro yakaguma nekomiti yeparamende yeJustice and Human Rights. Chikumbiro ichi chakambokurukurwa uye chakashandurwa kashanu uye kunzwa kwakatoitwa mumatunhu mana. Kana nhengo dzeparamende makumi maviri dzichiisaina, dzinogona kuenda kuparamende. Izvi zvakabudirira, asi kurudziro iyi haisati yapinda mudare reparamende nekuti pari kudiwa kusaina zviuru gumi kubva kuvagari. Nehurombo, iyo counter inongova pa20.
'Vanhu vane maitiro akasiyana ezvepabonde vagara vari munzvimbo ine grey. Sosaiti inovagamuchira pane imwe nhanho isiri pamutemo, asi kana vachida kuinyoresa, hazvisi nyore. Maonero everuzhinji haasati avatsigira, "akadaro komisheni weNHRC, Tairjing Sirophanich.
Gay en transgender kushungurudzwa zuva nezuva
Izvi zvinoshanda kwete kune maonero evanhu chete, asiwo kune dzimwe mhuri. The Nheyo dzeBonde uye Gender Identity Kodzero uye Ruramisiro yakabvunzurudza 868 gore rapfuura ngochani, ngochani en transgender mumatunhu manomwe. 15 muzana yevakabvunzurudzwa vakati havana kugamuchirwa uye 8 muzana yakagamuchirwa pasi pemigariro yakati; 13 muzana vakanga vasingabvumirwi kugara nomudiwa wavo. Zviverengero zvakatowanda: 14 muzana yakadanwa mazita; 2,5 muzana vakanga vadzingwa mumisha yavo; 1,3 muzana vakamanikidzwa kurapwa mupfungwa; 2,4 muzana yakanga yarohwa uye 3,3 muzana yakanga yarohwa neshamwari.
Naiyana Supapung, murongi weTeeranat Kanjanaauksorn Foundation, anodaro. ingochani en transgender vanhu muThailand vanosangana nekunetswa mazuva ese. Anoti Thais anofanirwa kufunga kuti nzanga ine varume nevakadzi chete. “Vanhu vakawanda vanogumbuka pavanoona vakomana vachiita sevasikana, vasikana vakapfeka zvipfeko zvevakomana, kana kuti varume nevakadzi vanoita zvepabonde. Vanhu vakadaro, anodaro, vanoonekwa se "freaks of nature."
Naiyana anotaura nezvebhuku rekuchikoro rinoyambira vanhu vanoita sevakomana uye pamusasa wevakomana scout hapana akada kupinda mutende. ingochani share mukomana. Makore mashoma apfuura mumwe akaedza ingochani mukomana kuzviuraya mushure mekunge arohwa panguva yekushevedzwa kwemagwagwa mangwanani pamberi pechikoro chese kuti aita semusikana.
Naiyana: 'Handisi kupomera vadzidzisi havo; vanodzidzisa zvavakadzidza ivo pachavo. Asi izvozvo hazvina kunaka. Mafungiro iwayo anofanira kuchinja. Mhirizhonga isingaoneki inorwadza kupfuura mhirizhonga inooneka. Mhirizhonga yomumuviri inogona kudziviswa, asi chisimba chisingaoneki hachigoni kudziviswa. Kana mwoyo wakuvadzwa, zvakaoma kupora.'
Vashanyi ve LGBT vanongoona divi rerudo reThailand
Asi vashanyi havana basa nazvo. Jetsada 'Cherechedza' Taesombat, murongi weThai Transgender Alliance, haashamise kuti vashanyi veLGBT vanonzwa vari kumba muThailand. 'Vari pano sevashanyi; vanongoona divi rerudo retsika nemagariro edu. Uye zvechokwadi vagari vomunharaunda vanoda mari yavo. Vashanyi vanonzwa vakasununguka kuratidza hunhu hwavo hwepabonde nekuti havagare pano uye havazivikanwe kusvika pamwero wakati. Kudai vaishanda uye vachigara pano, vaizonzwisisa kuti pane zvakawanda zvavasingagoni kuita.'
Naiyana anotenda kuti kutarisa kwepink tourism kunopotsa chinhu chimwe: kunzwisisa kodzero dzevanhu. 'Kana isu zvakafanana-zvepabonde muchato kuzvitarisa chete kubva mumaonero ehupfumi zvinongowedzera matambudziko nekuti hatinyatso nzwisisa mamiriro ekusiyana kwepabonde. Kana tichiri kufunga izvozvo ingochani en transgender vakasiyana nevanhuwo zvavo, hativanzwisisi.'
Anjana Suvarnananda, mutungamiri weboka reAnjaree lesbian rights, anoyeuka chirevo chenyanzvi: Nzanga yeThai inobvuma zvisiri pamutemo. ingochani en ngochani uye anozviramba zviri pamutemo. 'Ndinofunga kuti ichokwadi kuti Thai ingochani en ngochani zvechipameso, zvakadai semaitiro uye mapfekero avanoita. Asi kana zvasvika pazvinhu zvakakosha, vanorerekera kwazviri.”
Chiziviso chinowedzera kuti: 'Apo vanhu vanofunga zvisina kunaka nezvazvo ingochani en transgender vanhu, murayiro hauna zvaunoreva kuna ani zvake. Yave nguva yekuongorora mutemo wedu, tsika nemagariro kuti tinzwisise zviri nani kusiyana kwepabonde. Kunyoreswa kwevadyidzani idanho rekutanga rekuenzana kwevanhukadzi.'
(Chinobva: Spectrum, Bangkok Post, 8 Gunyana 2013)
Ndakauya kuThailand somuzvipiri muna Nyamavhuvhu uye ndichidzidzisa Chirungu kutaura. Ndine zviitiko zvakasiyana zvachose MuNong Kai takava nemusasa wechirimo une vadzidzi makumi mana vechikoro chesekondari, vasikana makumi maviri nevakomana makumi maviri vane makore gumi nemaviri-40. Pavakomana vacho, 20 vaiva vakadzi vakomana. Vakanoiswa mudormitory nevasikana vamwe mazuva vakapfeka make-up nemanail polish, mamwe mazuva vakapfeka braa. Izvi zvakaonekwa neboka racho sezvakanaka zvachose uye kwete zvachose kudheerera. Ndakazoenda kuKrabi kwandaidzidzisa pane chimwe chikoro chesekondari, kwaivawo nevasikana vechikadzi vainyanya kutandara nevasikana uye vakagamuchirwa sevanhuwo zvavo. Saka handisi kuona rusarura muzvikoro zvachose. Zvakaitika kwandiri ndezvechokwadi zvishoma, asi handina kumbobvira ndanzwa chero chinhu chakaipa kubva kune vamwe vadzidzisi.
Ndanga ndichigara muThailand kweanenge makore gumi (makore mana pakati peRayon neBangkok munzvimbo dzakasiyana) uye ekupedzisira 10 makore muIsaan nemurume wangu (akaroora muNetherlands), asi ini handinyatso kuziva chero chinhu munyaya iri pamusoro. . Kwete kunyange mune mamwe mapurovhinzi pandinoenda ikoko (kunyanya kuchamhembe nekumadokero kubva kuBangkok). Ndinogona kufungidzira kuti mamwe maMuslim ane mamwe matambudziko neungochani (nekuti ndinoreva vakadzi nevarume); sevamwe maKristu, asi ini handina zviitiko zvisina kunaka nazvo. Sezvo ndichipa rubatsiro rwezvokurapa, ndinowanzosangana nevanhu; Iye zvino ndinogona kukuudza izvi: dai chete Netherlands yakanga yakafanana neThailand mune zvose zvine chokuita neungochani.Ndinogovera zvizere maonero aPetro. Ndinowanzoshanyira zvikoro kana kuti kubata nazvo; pano zvakare, rusununguko kune ngochani; kuuya kuchikoro wakapfeka? : Hapana dambudziko ! Ndine manzwiro ekuti nyaya iri pamusoro yakatorwa kunze kwemamiriro ezvinhu. Ndinogona kufunga kuti - mushure memakore gumi ekushanyira dzimba dzevanhu - ndinoziva chimwe chinhu nezveThailand uye ndinofunga vanhu vazhinji vanodaro. Uye kana uri mutemo wekuti ngochani dzinoroora; ziva kuti kune nyika gumi neshanu chete pasirese uko izvi zvinogoneka uye kuti Thailand ichiri imwe yekutanga (uye pamwe ndiyo yekutanga nyika yeAsia) uko izvi zvinogoneka kana zvese zvapera. Mhedziso kubva kumurume wengochani: Ndinofunga kuti zvese zviri kure uye hazvina kunaka! Point !
Ndakagara kwekanguva mumusha muduku uri pedyo neUdon Thani.
Handina kumbobvira ndaona chero kudheerera kubva kune homos, tomboys, Kathoys uye nezvimwe zvese zviri kuitika muThailand, asi ini kazhinji ndakashamiswa nekushivirira uye kugamuchirwa neThais.
Zviya zvekuti musikana wangu ane makore 15 okuberekwa anozora make-up uye anoshanyira shamwari yake (ngochani) zvinoonekwa serisina dambudziko zvachose, kunyangwe nevabereki.
Panguva yemapuranga kazhinji pane kathoy pane zvinoyangarara.
Izwi rekuti "wan" randakambonzwa nezveizvi raibva kumusikana wangu. ndiani anoregedza kuti varume vakanaka ingochani kana kathoy.
Kuno muMusha weMusika weHua Hin kune chitoro chezvizoro chine vakomana vaviri vechikadzi, vakanaka kwazvo vakapfeka mbatya nhema, vane vhudzi refu refu dema. Musikana wangu dzimwe nguva anoseka kuti ndinovada. Ndizvo zvose.
Mumwe mukadzi anogarawo pedyo nepamba pedu, akashanda pano pakuvaka imba yedu. Anoshanda sevamwe varume, iwe chete unobva wangoona matauriro aanoita uye mafambire aanoita kuti imukomana wechikadzi. Katoi yakanaka kwazvo, iyo inogamuchirwawo sezviri pachena nevamwe vake.
Dzimwe nguva ndinombonzwa mashoko anonakidza nezvekatoi, asi handigoni kutaura kuti vanosarurwa zvechokwadi kana kuti vanonzvengwa.
Uyezve, kana nhamba dzataurwa pamusoro apa dzakarurama, saka iwe unogona zvakare kuti: kwete 14 muzana vakatukwa, asi 86 muzana havana kutukwa, 87 muzana vanogona kugara nemumwe wavo, 97,5 muzana havana kudzingwa pamba, 98,7 muzana havana KUDA kurapwa, 97,6 muzana havana kurobwa uye 96,7 muzana havana kurobwa.
Nhamba dzacho dzakaita sei zvino? Hazvina kuipa huh?
Ndinogara ndichiona zvichinakidza kuona mabatiro anoita vanhu nhamba. Pane njodzi yechitima here kana kudengenyeka kwenyika muIndia yakazara vanhu, zvakanyorwa kuti vangani vakakuvara kana vakafa, asi kana ukazotanga kupa zvikamu, zvinotaridzika zvakasiyana. Asi ndiro rimwe dingindira.
Saka kuti ndidzoke kunhamba dzengochani dzinobatwa zvisina kunaka, ngochani nevasikana, ini pachangu ndinofunga kuti haisi chikamu chakashata chinobatwa zvakanaka.
Ini ndinotenda kuti hazvisi zvese zvakajeka uye zviri nyore kwese kwese kana zvasvika pakushivirira kwengochani nengochani. Asi sekutaura kunoita Sjaak: shandura nhamba uye unowana nyaya yakasiyana zvachose.
Ndinoshanda mudzidzo nevana vane makore 13-19. Pano, zvakare, unoona kusiyana kukuru maererano nekugamuchirwa. Native Dutch vanhu zvechokwadi havasi nguva dzose vanoshivirira sezvatinoda kuzviratidza kune dzimwe nyika. Zvakadaro, ndinoshinga kutaura kuti kana uri ngochani, hausi rombo rakanaka kana uchigara muNetherlands kana Thailand. Asi zvinogona kuva nani. Isu tose tinogona kubatsira kune izvozvo. Ndinoedza izvozvo mune dzidzo.
Mumusha wandinogara ndinoona vechidiki vakawanda vanoita zvechingochani.
Vamwe vachiri vadiki zvikuru.
Mukomana wekupedzisira transsexual wandinoziva aingova nemakore matanhatu apo aitoziva kuti aisada kuva mukomana.
Handisati ndamboona munhu achisarurwa nekuda kwekuda kwake.
Mumwe munhu anombosekwa, asi haamboiti zvakaipa uye hapana kudheerera.
Vakomana vanowanzobuda pachena pamusoro pezvavanoda kuita zvepabonde kupfuura vasikana.
Asi kana vakura (vanenge 20+?) haina kuvhurika uye hauzvioni mumugwagwa.
Vamwewo sezviri pachena vanochinja zvavanoda gare gare vobva varoorana.
Ini chaizvo ndinoshamisika kana huzhinji hwehukama hwehungochani panguva yehudiki hungave husina chekuita nehungochani, asi kuti kurara nemumwe mukomana ingori nzira inogamuchirwa yekunakidzwa kwako.
Vanhu muThailand vanowanzo shamwaridzana zvakanyanya.
Mhuri dzimwe nguva dzinorara pamwe chete pamibhedha kana pamatiresi padivi pemumwe kusvikira vana vakura (15+).
Vakomana vekudivi rababa nevasikana varikudivi raAmai.
Ndinofunga kuti hama dzose dziya dzinorara pamwe chete dzinodzivirira kutya kwevakomana vekuMadokero kuti vabatane, izvo zvinogonawo kuvaitira nyore kupinda mukusangana pabonde nevamwe vakomana.
Kuti nditsanangure kutya kwevechiduku vokuMadokero, ndinoda kupa muenzaniso kuti muhuduku hwangu (munenge muna 1543, ndinofunga) vakomana vakanga vachiri kufamba vakabatana maoko pamusoro pemapfudzi.
Uyewo chimiro chehukama hwepedyo.
(Asi ndichiri mudiki ndairarawo varume 3 vakasimba pamubhedha mumwe chete.)
Kwete chinhu chaunoona nhasi.
Unoona vakomana vari pamwe chete, asi havawanzobatani.
Ndinoziva kamukomana kaya kaiziva aine 6 years kuti haadi kuita mukomana nekuti vabereki vake ndinovaziva uye ainzi kathoei nekuda kwehunhu hwake hwechisikana uye kutamba nevasikana chete, pane vamwe vakomana.
Iyo kathoei saka inoratidzika kuva yakawanda yekugumisa pane kufungidzira.
Iye zvino handisi nyanzvi yepfungwa, saka handizivi kuti izvi zvakakwana here kuti akwanise kuva cathoo.
Kune rumwe rutivi, kuda zvepabonde kunotarirwa kwete chete nenhaka, asiwo nenharaunda.
Mumwe munhu anozvarwa pane imwe nzvimbo pachiyero chinomhanya kubva kukuda kwevarume kana kudiwa kwevakadzi, asi anogona kubva ipapo achienda kuvarume kana kuvakadzi zvichienderana nenharaunda.
Saka pakupedzisira hazvina basa zvakanyanya kuti qualification transvestite ndeyechokwadi kana kwete.
Angangove akatanga padivi pe transvestite.
Uye kana iye pachake achinzwa kufara nezvazvo.
Uye zvichiri zvakadaro.
Vechidiki vemumusha [isaan] vanoziva pfungwa yengochani.
Ngochani inoshandiswa kuita chingochani uye tut kune transvestite.
Vanoitawo mutsauko wakajeka pakati pezviviri izvi.
Zvinogoneka ndezvekuti izwi rekuti ngochani harina zvarinoreva pano semuNetherlands.
Mutauro unogara wakaoma pakukurukurirana.
Mazwi mamwe chete mune imwe nyika haawanzorevi chinhu chimwe chete.
Zvichida zvinongoreva vakomana vanorara vese nekuda mafaro kwete vakomana vanohura.
Ndinofanira kubvunza nezvazvo.
Ndinowana fungidziro kubva mumashoko ekuti semunhu ane ngochani ndinoziva zvishoma pane avhareji (Dutch) heterosexual. Iwo (pre) mitongo yevamwe vanyori yakakomba zvikuru. Kufunga dzimwe nguva kwakaoma uye vanhu vanongopunyuka mumashoko akadai sevarume nevakadzi, nezvimwewo, nezvimwewo; never known ! Ndiri murume uye ndizvo zvakaitawo mukomana wangu. Zvakare izvo zvakanyorwa hazvisi zveThai kupfuura muNetherlands. Zvisinei, zvinhu zvose zvinogona kuitwa nyore nyore kupfuura muNetherlands uye vanhu vanogona kuzviratidza zvakanyanya kupfuura muNetherlands; kunyanya kana uchigara munzvimbo dzechitendero zvakanyanya muNetherlands. Ichowo chinhu chakajairika kune varume nevakadzi kuwana mari kubva kune ngochani muNetherlands; Izvo chete zvinoitwa muchivande muNetherlands, kungofanana nezvakawanda zvinotsanangurwa pamusoro apa zvinoitwa pachivande. Saka zvakare: Ndinofara kuti vanhu vakazaruka pano kupfuura muNetherlands uye ndinovimba kuti kuroorana kwengochani kuchakurumidza kuunzwa muThailand. Iine mhedzisiro yemutemo yakakosha, kunyanya kune vanhu pachavo, uye ivo vanonyatsoda izvi. Uye nyora pamusoro pezvinhu zvaunoziva chaizvo; rinojekesa zvinhu. Nenzira, izwi rekuti gay rinonyanya kuzivikanwa pakati pengochani muThailand; pandinogara uye munzvimbo dziri kure (Khon Kaen). Handioni vakadzi vakapfeka zvipfeko zvevakadzi chero kupi zvako kuThai; hongu pafarangs; hongu vahosi. Musiyano ndewekuti: a transvestite zviri pachena murume akapfeka uye mambokadzi murume (anenge) asingazivikanwe murume (anonziwo mukadzi mukomana). Saka munhu ane ndebvu uye/kana makumbo ane mvere ndiye anopfeka uye mambokadzi munhu waunongoziva kuti murume kana akashama chaiko; Kana akapfeka bhurugwa rake kazhinji haugone kuzviona nekuti sikarudzi “yakavanzwa”.
The transvestite ane 'bulge'! Zvimwe zvakajeka nenzira iyi?
Moderator: akabvisa mutsara wakanyanya kujeka.
VaPaul, sekuona kwangu, handina kana munhu wandakadudza nezita kana kuti chero chinhu chipi zvacho chandataura kunaani zvake – kusanganisira newe. Asi vanokwana shangu vachapfeka. Muchipatara takashandisa izwi rekuti Queen sekutsanangura kwandinoita uye sekuziva kwandaiita (pakati pevamwe) munyika yengochani. Tave pano kwemakore gumi izvozvi, zvinogoneka kuti vanhu ikoko (muNetherlands) vava kuona izwi rekuti Mambokadzi zvakasiyana. Kunyange zvazvo ndakabatwa pamusoro peizvi nhasi kubva kuAmsterdam uye vakandipa tsananguro yakafanana sezvandakanyora. Ndinoda kuzvisiya zvakadaro kuti tidzivise kuti tisapedze hurukuro isingaperi.
Moderator: Ndokumbira upedze chikamu chekutaura.
Ndanga ndichishanda payunivhesiti muThailand kwemakore 7 zvino uye kune vakomana nevasikana vanoita ngochani mumagiredhi ese. Huwandu hwevasikana ngochani hwakakwira, asi huwandu hwevadzidzi vechikadzi hwakakwirawo. Hapana zvachose humbowo hwerusarura mudzimba dzekudzidzira. Ndinoziva nezvenyaya 1 apo chikumbiro chemukomana wechikoro chekuuya kuchikoro semusikana (akapfeka yunifomu yemwana wechikadzi) chakarambwa neyunivhesiti. Pamabiko manheru (semuenzaniso pakuonekana kwegore rechina) vasikana vanozivikanwa sevakadzi.
Payunivhesiti yechiKristu muNetherlands kwandaimboshanda, vanhu vaiva nedambudziko guru nengochani. I'm pretty sure ladyboys vaisazotenderwa.
Hukama hwakakura huripo, asi haunyatso kuoneka.
Izvi hazvirevi hazvo kuti hukama uhwu hahugamuchirwi.
VaThai vanobvuma chaizvo.
Ichokwadi kuti vanhu veThai vanowanzofarira kusasiyana zvakanyanya kubva kune vamwe vanhu.
Izvi zvinoreva zvakare kuti kana vanhu vaviri vemukomana mumwe chete vaine hukama, havangaite pachena kuti izvi zvizivikanwe munharaunda.
Izvi, sezvineiwo, zviitiko mukati memusha wemusha.
Paunouya kuPattaya, chiitiko chacho chingave chakasiyana kwazvo.
Asi hongu, unogona here kutora Pattaya semuenzaniso wenharaunda yeThai?
The environment is artificial and very focused on sex, nekuti ndiko kunobva mari.
Zvakare, chikamu chikuru chevanhu vanogara muPattaya vangangove havasisiri veThai.
Kunyanya kana iwe uchiverenga vashanyi.
Hunhu hweThai saka huchagadziridzwa zvakasimba.
Mukuwasha ane vanakomana 2, mapatya, ane makore 42, vese ngochani. Havagoni kuwana hukama hwakakomba nezera ravo pachavo. Mumwe anosiya zvakadaro, mumwe wacho ane marudzi ose oushamwari hwenguva dzose. Vese vanogara naamai. Kubuda nekutarisa kwava kutanga kuvafinha.