Huori muThailand: tanga wanzwisisa

NeMharidzo Yakatumirwa
Geplaatst mukati kumashure
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April 28 2013
Corruption Perception Index 2010

Kuti huwori hwakanaka here kana kuti hwakaipa haisi nyaya yehurukuro. Ndinovimba (kana kusaziva) zvekuti ndinofunga kuti izvi zvinoshandawo kune ruzhinji rwevanhu veThai. Nei huwori hwatekeshera munyika muno? 

Pandinobvunza kirasi yangu yevadzidzi vegore rechina kana vangapa mupurisa anoda kuvabhadharisa faindi yekusapfeka bhandi rechigaro (4 baht) zana kana mazana maviri baht 'mari yekofi' kudzivirira faindi, munhu wese anogutsurira musoro achibvumirana. Kana kuti vanofunga kuti zvakaipa here? Uyewo kugutsurira muchibvumirano. Sei vachizviita zvakadaro? Zviso zvinonzwisa tsitsi. Pandinovaudza kuti ndinobhadhara faindi nguva dzose, vanhu vanonditarisa sokunge kuti handina kunaka (uye kwete) kungwara.

Chii chiri mhinduro chaiyo, inogadzika?

Muchikamu chino ndichaedza kunzwisisa zviri nani chiitiko chehuori muThailand. Mushure mezvose, pasina kunzwisisa hakuna matanho anoshanda ekurwisa huori (tichifunga kuti ndizvo zvinonyatsodiwa nevanhu munyika ino). Vanofa-hard pasina mubvunzo vanoti: kuferefeta kuri nani, mapurisa akazvimirira uye matare edzimhosva uye mitongo yakaomarara. Asi iyoyo imhinduro yechokwadi, inogarika here? Mhinduro inogara? Iwo manyoro anoti: shanduko yemafungiro pakati pehuwandu hweThai ndiyo mhinduro. Asi: tinofanira kumirira nguva yakadii kuti huwori munyika ino hudzikire zvakanyanya?

Conceptual confusion

Ndisati ndaenda kumashure, ndinofanira kutanga ndatsanangura kuti huori chii chaizvo. Zvikasadaro hatisi kutaura pamusoro pechinhu chimwe chete uye tinochikanganisa nechimwe chinhu, sekutsigira kana chiokomuhomwe. Rega ndiedze kutsanangura pfungwa dzakasiyana uye ndidzitsanangure nemuenzaniso.

patronage

Bato A rinopa bato B rinofarira izvo - kubva pamagariro nemaonero ehunhu - hazvienderane nezvinofanira kuitwa nebato B uye dzimwe nguva bato B harifanire kuita chero chinhu. Muchinyorwa changu chakapfuura ndakapa mimwe mienzaniso yeizvi uye ndakaidaidza kuti huranda hwepfungwa. Kana mafavours awanda 'zvakajairika', ndozvavanodaidza hure yeah. Asi hongu: maonero (anga) akasiyana nezve izvo 'zvakajairika'.

Chiokomuhomwe

Bato A rinoita kuti bato B riite chimwe chinhu chisingatenderwi kana kuti chisingabvumirwi nemutemo (izvo mapato maviri anoziva) uye rinobhadhara (zvakananga kana zvisina kunanga) neimwe nzira. Izvi zvinosanganisira 'kutenga' mavhoti kubva kuThais (kunyanya avo vanogara munzvimbo dzine hurombo) nechinangwa chesarudzo. Izvi zvinogona kuitwa nenzira yakananga (kupa 500 kana 1000 baht kumunhu ane chikumbiro chakajeka chekuvhotera bato rakati) Zvinogonawo kuitwa nenzira isina kunanga, sekubhadhara peturu yemope (kana kubhadhara). zvedoro kana makadhi ekufona, nedzimwe nzira dzakawanda dzekugadzira) kwemavhiki akati wandei sarudzo dzisati dzaitwa uye kumisa kubhadhara mushure mezuva resarudzo.

Nekuti kune vazhinji varombo veThai (vamwe vacho vanoona mamiriro avo asina tariro) zviri nyore kupa chiokomuhomwe murombo weThai nemari. Kunyangwe mhosva dzekuti muThai (kana akabatwa) achagara makore mutirongo, sekutengesa uye / kana kutakura zvinodhaka kana kuponda, haufanirwe kubhadhara mari yakawandisa.

Kubiridzira

Bato A rinobhadhara bato B kuti riite (kana kurega kuita) chimwe chinhu, asi bato B rinoita chimwe chinhu chisiri icho chakabhadharwa uye pachena HAIRI kuzivisa izvi kubato A. Muenzaniso: mugadziri wekondirakiti akapiwa basa rekuvaka njanji kuSuvarnabhumi. airport inohaya subcontractor kuti ipe jecha. Kambani iyi inopa jecha remhando yakaderera (asi inochaja mutengo wemhando iri nani) uye haina chainoti kune kondirakiti. Mushure memakore mana kune maburi mumugwagwa.

Blackmail

Bato A rinoita kuti bato B riite chimwe chinhu chisingadi kuitwa nebato B pacharo. Nekudaro, bato B rinonzwa zvakanyanya kana kushoma kumanikidzwa (nekutyisidzira kwakananga kana kusiri kwakananga). Muenzaniso: mwanakomana wemhuri yakapfuma yeThai anokonzera tsaona yemotokari inouraya. Zvikonzero zvetsaona ndezvi: kumhanya uye mutyairi wechidiki wemotokari aive pasi pedoro nezvinodhaka. Baba vemukomana, shamwari yeGurukota reJustice (rinotarisira mapurisa), vanoshevedza komisheni wemapurisa ane chekuita nechikumbiro kuti aise zvakabuda pakuferefetwa kwedoro nezvinodhaka uye kuvabvunza zvakanyanya sezvinobvira.

Huori

Neruzivo/kubvuma/kushandira pamwe kwebato A, bato B (nekuda kwaro) rinoita zvinhu zvisingatenderwi kana kuti zvisiri pamutemo. Bato A neBato B ose ndiwo mapato akanakira uye akakuvara ndewechitatu (kana hurongwa hwemutemo kana nzanga yese).

Rega ndidzokere kumuenzaniso wenzira yekufambisa ndege paSuvarnabhumi airport. Kondirakiti akapiwa basa rekuvaka gwara rendege panhandare yendege anohaya kontrakta diki kuti ape jecha racho. Kambani iyi inobvunzana nekondirakiti. Vese vari vaviri vanosarudza kuisa jecha remhando yakaderera pasi penzira itsva.

Muridzi wenhandare yendege anobhadhara mutengo wejecha remhando yepamusoro. Musiyano wemutengo pakati pejecha rakaderera uye riri nani rinopatsanurwa 50-50 pakati pekontrakta nemupi wejecha. Pane runyerekupe rwekuti vamwe vakuru vakuru mukambani ine nhandare yendege vanoziva nezvechibvumirano ichi uye vari kubhadharwa nekunyarara kwavo. Mushure memakore mana kune maburi mumugwagwa. Kondirakiti yave kubhuroka.

Huwori hunoda mapato matatu

Kusiyana nekutsigira, chiokomuhomwe, chitsotsi uye hunyengeri, uwori haudi mapato maviri asi matatu. Bato rekutanga rinoda kuita chimwe chinhu uye rinopa kana kubhadhara mari, zvinhu kana masevhisi kune izvi (kune wechipiri bato kana vakuru vakuru mukati mebato rechipiri); bato rechipiri iro rinoziva uye REKUDA KWEMAHARA rinoita zvinhu zviri mumagariro, tsika uye / kana zvisina kufanira zviri pamutemo pahwaro hwezvipo izvi uye / kana mubhadharo (migove, goridhe, makadhi echikwereti, wachi dzinodhura, dzimba, mota, nzendo dzinotapira, nezvimwe, nezvimwe. , uye wechitatu uyo ​​- sezvazvinozoitika gare gare kana kwete - pakupedzisira ndiye akakuvara. Huwori - sekuona kwangu - kubatana kwemapato maviri kune ZVINOTAURWA kuwana mukana wekubhadharira bato reCHITATU.

Panofanira kuva nechinangwa nemukana wekuparwa kwemhosva

Ini handisati ndamboverenga akawanda matsotsi manovhero muhupenyu hwangu hwese, asi ndaimboona ndakatendeseka senge Baantjer, Mapurisa en Der Kommissar. Chandagara ndichirangarira kubva pane izvi ndechekuti pakupara mhosva – pamusoro pechombo – panofanira kugara paine chinangwa nemukana. Neruzivo irworwo, ngatitarisei zvakanyanya huwori muThailand.

Kana tichigona kutenda zvidzidzo pakati pehuwandu hweThai, huwori hwakanyanya muvashandi vehurumende (kunyanya mapurisa) nezvematongerwo enyika. Chinangwa chemaitiro ehuori mune zvinenge zviitiko zvese kuwana mari kwenguva pfupi kana yepakati. Sei? Ungafunga kuti vashandi vehurumende ava vanotambira mari inodarika pakati. Hongu, asi - sezvakaratidzwa ne2010 Civil Servants Living Condition Survey - vane zvikwereti zvakakura.

Chikamu che84 percent chevashandi vehurumende vane zvikwereti

84 muzana yevashandi vehurumende vane zvikwereti uye chikamu ichi chakangokura mumakore achangopfuura (zvakare pakati pevashandi vepamusoro vehurumende). Neavhareji mari inowanikwa pamwedzi ye43.650 baht, vanhu zvakare vane avhareji ye872.388 baht muchikwereti. Mutoro mukuru wechikwereti une chekuita neimba nemotokari. Hazvishamisi kuti vashandi vehurumende veThai vane nzara yenguva dzose ye (mari) mari.

Pamusoro peroti yemwedzi nemwedzi (shanduro dzepamutemo uye dzisiri pamutemo), kubhejera mumakasino asiri pamutemo, kutengesa zvinodhaka, basa rechipiri (kazhinji chitoro kana mutyairi wetekisi), kuyedza kuroora mupfumi weku Thai (uye nekudaro kuguma mune imwe network) ) kana mutorwa akapfuma (asina network yakakosha muThailand) pane imwe sarudzo yekuwana mari nekukurumidza: huwori. Asi panewo mukana weizvozvo here? Hongu, kakawanda kunyange.

Nei vanhu vachikuvadza hurumende kakawanda kudaro?

Wechitatu bato mukunyomba kwehuwori, akakuvara, kazhinji ihurumende kana hurongwa hwemutemo uye HAKUSI nharaunda yebhizinesi yeThai. Kana kambani yeThai ikasawana mukana, inowanzotsvaga kururamisira uye muripo wekukuvara kwakaitika (kunyanya kana zvakakosha) mudare.

Nei vanhu vachikuvadza hurumende kakawanda kudaro? Chimwe chezvikonzero ndechekuti - uye haudi kutenda izvi semutorwa, nekuti une ruzivo rwakasiyana, semuenzaniso neImigration, mitemo mishoma, mitemo uye mari inodzorwa nevakuru veThai.

Mukana wekuti huwori hucherechedzwe mudiki. Wanga uchiziva here kuti 3,2 muzana yevanhu vanoshanda muThailand vanoshandira hurumende (iyo inofungidzirwa kuti hafu inoshanda muchiuto nemapurisa) zvichienzaniswa ne12 muzana muNetherlands?

Uye chechipiri: kana kuongorora kwatoitwa uye zvisizvo zvichionekwa: iwe unofunga kuti mukuru wepasi achasimudza izvi nemukuru wake, pangozi yekuti mukuru uyu ari chikamu chehuori (kana kunhuwa mari)?

Chechitatu: unofunga here kuti mukuru wepasi uyu achakwidza nyaya iyi nemukuru wake kana achimbowana imwe mari kubva kumukuru wake (imwe mari yokuwedzera kubhadhara zvikwereti zvake; kukwidziridzwa kubasa riri nani) yaasina kuita chero chinhu (patronage)?

Chechina, avo vakaderera muhutungamiriri vanofanira kuremekedza vakuru vavo (hai kid) nevakuru vanofanirawo kuita kuti vari pasi pavo vafare (Nam ini).

Nyika inowanzova iyo yakakuvara

Mhedziso ndeyokuti kutsigira ('psychological slavery') nehuwori mukati memasangano ehurumende zvine hurongwa ASI kuti nyika (kana dzimwe nguva hurongwa hwemutemo) kazhinji kazhinji ndivo vanokuvara muhuwori.

Kubhadhara mazana maviri ebhaht mari yekofi kumupurisa kunoita kuti mupurisa ave nani (kureva mazana maviri baht akapfuma, uye nekukurumidza), mutadzi ari nani (kureva kusabhadhara mazana mashanu baht asi mazana maviri baht chete) asi hurumende inopotsa mazana mashanu baht uye hapana chainowana. Asi ndiani chaizvo ari hurumende pano: Minister of Finance? Mumwe muenzaniso unosekesa kune vekuMadokero inyaya yekuti kuvakwa kwezviteshi zvemapurisa zvitsva nekondirakiti kwakamiswa nekuti - zvinopesana nemitemo yakajairwa yekubhadhara mapurojekiti ekuvaka - kontrakta haasati awana baht (mubhadharo wepamberi) kubva mapurisa.nebasa rake.

Matauriro akashata anoti mapurisa ange achitarisira kuti kondirakiti ichashaya basa kuitira kuti mukontrakta achazotevera apedze kukamba yemapurisa nemutengo wakaderera. Zvisinei, kondirakiti inoenda kumatare: kukanganiswa kuduku nebazi remapurisa iro rinotarisira zvivakwa.

Huori - network - patronage

Huori hunofanira kusanganisira rusununguko rwokuzvisarudzira, ndakanyora kudaro. Muchinyorwa changu nezve kutsigirwa ndakaedza kutsanangura kuti hurongwa hwakadai hunokanganisa sei kushanda kwepfungwa kwehuwandu hweThai. Uye vangangoita vese Thais vanowana tsigiro kune yakakura kana kushoma mwero, pachivande uye mubasa ravo.

Muchinyorwa changu nezve network ndakatsanangura kuti vaviri ava vanowanzobatana: vanhu vekubasa havasi vaunoshanda navo chete asiwo mhuri kana vanozivana. Thais anowanzo kutaura nezve "shamwari yangu muhofisi".

Vanhu vechiDutch havawanzove neshamwari muhofisi imwechete. Muzviitiko zvakawanda - mumaonero angu - hapana chaicho chekusununguka. Kutaura kushoropodza wako (wepfungwa) mukuru hakuna kunaka mutsika yeThai nekuti zvinopesana hure yeah uye hi kid anopinda.

Kudzora kunobva kwadzikira kuita chiokomuhomwe (apo maitiro akakumbirwa achiperekedzwa neimwe nzira yakananga yemubairo) kana kuita nhema (apo maitiro anomanikidzwa nekutyisidzirwa kwezviyero zvekuranga). Uye kana iwe, pamwe chete nemubatsiri wako kana mumwe munhu ari munetiweki yako, ukakanganisa mumwe wechitatu, izvi zvinonzi huori.

Chris de Boer

Chris de Boer (59) akagara nekushanda muThailand kubvira 2006. Kubva 2008 anga ari mudzidzisi wekushambadzira uye manejimendi paSilpakorn University. Akambodhinda 'Thailand is a network society par excellence' (Kubvumbi 5, 2013) uye 'Where munhu anodya chingwa, ane shoko rinotaura' (Kubvumbi 21, 2013). Tino Kuis akaita semuverengi wechinyorwa chiri pamusoro uye akapa yapfuura shanduro yetsanangudzo.

46 mhinduro ku "Huori muThailand: tanga kunzwisisa"

  1. Tino Kuis anoti kumusoro

    Ndakadzidza chimwe chinhu zvakare. Izvi zvinojekesa zvakawanda kwandiri. Munotaura mutoro wezvikwereti zvevashandi vehurumende sechikonzero chehuori. Icho ichokwadi, asi nei vapfumi vari ivo vabvuti vakurusa? Ndoda kudaidza chinangwa chiri nyore, kukara kwakashata.

    Zvakatorwa kubva kune aimbove Mutungamiriri Abhisit kubva muhurukuro pa 'International Corruption Conference' muBangkok, Mbudzi 2010:

    “Kurwisa huwori chisungo chehunhu uye hachikundwe kuburikidza nemutemo wega. Tinogona kuva nemitemo yakanakisisa, asi chero bedzi vanhu vachiramba vasina hanya uye vasina hanya, tiri kurwa hondo inokundwa. Ngatiyeukei mashoko aya: 'kubatanidzwa muuori kunowanzova kusava nehanya kwedu pachedu.'

    Uye ndizvo zvazviri. Kurwisana nehuwori hakugoni kubva kumusoro, asi kunofanira kutsigirwa neruzhinji uye kubva pasi.

  2. cor verhoef anoti kumusoro

    Yakakwana dhizaini ine chete 1 miss. Wechitatu (akakuvara) bato haisi hurumende, asi huwandu hweThai hwakazara. Mari iyi, inosvika mabhiriyoni emabhaht pagore uye inonyangarika muhomwe dzeboka diki revanowana purofiti vari chikamu chevanonzi 'elite', ingadai yakashandiswa muhushumiri hwakasiyana pasina izvo zvinonzi 'kickbacks' uye. yakabatsira zvirinani zvivakwa, dzidzo, hutano, kuchengetedza kwezvakatipoteredza, nezvimwe. Nemamwe mazwi, vanhu veThai.
    “Huori hwemumugwagwa” hwaunotaura pano, mupurisa asingabhadharwe mari shoma anobhadharisa faindi ipapo nemuparidzi, hausi huwori hune njodzi zvikuru mubudiriro yenyika. Ndingangoti; pane kudaro. Iwo mazana matatu ebhaht anorasikirwa nehurumende anofanirwa kushandiswa nehurumende imwe chete pakubhadhara zviri nani kumupurisa iyeye (kana chero mushandi wehurumende).
    Huwori hweshumba hunoitika muzvibvumirano pakati pevemabhizimisi nehurumende. Paunotanga iwo makuru, anonzi 'mega mapurojekiti', akati wandei ari mupombi, kwaungashamisika kuti ndechipi chinangwa chavanoshanda (ndiri kufunga nezve yakarongwa mitsara yekumhanya-mhanya). Ndipo panoitika huwori chaihwo, hunoramba husingaoneki kuvanhuwo zvavo.

    • Chris anoti kumusoro

      Wadiwa Kor,
      Pamwe ndinobvumirana newe uye pamwe handibvumirani newe. Murikuvhiringa zvinhu nekuti zviri kuitika pakati pemakambani nehurumende hausi huwori nguva dzose asi kuti kazhinji kacho chiokomuhomwe ( mushandi wehurumende anotambira mari yekupihwa kondirakiti) kana kuti blackmail (kana iwe mushandi wehurumende ukasandiitira izvi ndichaita. kukuudza kuti wakagamuchira mota kubva kwandiri gore rapfuura) kana kutsigirwa (mushandi wehurumende anogamuchira mota uye mawachi nefungidziro yenguva yemberi yekusaona kana kunzwa zvinhu) kana kungozvibata zvisiri pamutemo. Vazhinji vevashandi vehurumende vezera rapakati (chingotarisai nharaunda duku) vanotyaira motokari neHarleys uye vanogara mudzimba dzavasingagoni kuwana nemihoro yavo nezvikwereti zvoga. Saka havasi vakomana vakuru chete.
      Huwori kwandiri hausi hwekungoda mari chete asi KUTI UYE ane maitiro. Ini ndinopokana zvikuru kuti mupurisa wepano haana kukosha zvakadaro. Vana vechikoro vangu havazive kuti sei vachipa murume mari asi ivo vanozviita. Gare gare, kana vava vatungamiri, havagoniwo kusiyanisa chakanaka nechakaipa.
      Muchinyorwa changu chinotevera ndichanyatsoongorora huori nehutongi.
      Chris

  3. cor verhoef anoti kumusoro

    Oops Chris, mumwe apotsa. Sekureva kweThai Ministry of Economic Affairs, huwandu hwekushaikwa kwemabasa munyika huri 0.83%. Haaa, nyika zhinji dzemuEurope dziri kunanzva zvigunwe pahuwandu hwakadai. Sezvineiwo, bazi rinosiya kuti chero munhu "anoita chimwe chinhu" muThailand, angave ari mutengesi wenoodles kana muunganidzi webhodhoro repurasitiki - vanhu vanoshanda mu "zvisiri pamutemo chikamu" - vanoonekwa sevanoshanda.
    Nekudaro, pahuwandu hwevashandi ava, mamirioni maviri nemazana maviri eThais chete ndivo vanobhadhara mutero wemari uye vanopfuura makumi matanhatu muzana vavo vanoshanda mubazi rehurumende uye nekudaro vashandi vehurumende.

    Tine urombo, chete Thai link iripo:

    http://www.ryt9.com/s/cabt/1579140

    http://www.opdc.go.th/index.php

    Basa rehurumende muThailand rakaomarara uye rinovhiringa nekuda kwehuwandu hwevashandi vehurumende uye nepamusoro-pasi manejimendi, zvichiita kuti zvive nyore kuti huori hudzike midzi.

    • Chris anoti kumusoro

      mudiwa cor,
      Handina kutaura nezverovha. Ndinoziva kuti zvakaderera. Pamusoro pehuwandu hwevanhu vanongoita chimwe chinhu mubazi risingatarisirwi vowana mari shoma yekuti vabhadhare mitero, VAKAREJSWA kushaya mabasa kwakaderera zvikuru nekuti vanhu vasina mabasa havanyore. Kuregererei? Nekuti izvo hazvipe chero pundutso. Iko hakuna rubatsiro rwekushaya basa, hapana nzvimbo chaiyo yebasa, hapana kudzidzisazve mari uye rombo rakanaka kune network inokuchengeta. (ona chinyorwa changu chekutanga chekubatanidza nemuenzaniso wemukoma wemusikana wangu wekare). Tsvagiridzo gore rapfuura pakati pevanhu vekuThai vasingashande vane makore makumi maviri kusvika makumi matatu nemashanu inoratidza kuti makumi manomwe muzana avo havadi kushanda.
      Chris

      • Ruud NK anoti kumusoro

        Chris, zvawanyora zvimwe hazvisi chokwadi zvachose. Pakupera kwa2011, panguva yemafashamo, ndakanga ndiri kuhofisi kune yangu AOW chikumbiro. Pakanga pakazara vanhu vemarudzi ose vachitsvaga uye vachiwana rubatsiro nokuti vakanga vasingakwanisi kushanda nokuti makambani akanga akazara. Ndinofunga kuti iyi yakanga iri rudzi rwekubatsira kwekushaya basa, asi boka duku chete ndiro rinogona kuzvitora.

        • Dick van der Lugt anoti kumusoro

          @ Ruud NK Sekuziva kwangu, Social Security Fund inopa rubatsiro rushoma rwekushaya basa. Asi ipapo vashandi / vanopa vanofanirwa kuve vakabatana nayo. Bepanhau dzimwe nguva rinonyorawo pamusoro pezvinobatsira mushure menjodzi. Waigona kunge wakazviona izvozvo.

  4. Cor van Kampen anoti kumusoro

    Mr de Boer, munonyora chokwadi.
    Mhedziso yekupedzisira yeDutch Expat uye zvechokwadi shamwari dzedu dzeFlemish zviri nyore. Nyika ino yakaora. Isu sevekunze tinofanirwa kutarisana nazvo mazuva ese. 200 baht yekutyorwa kwetraffic (yausina kuita) uye mazuva ano mumugwagwa mukuru weBangkok-Chonburi 1000 kusvika 2000 baht yechinhu chisina kuitika chakajairika. Ini ndakatonyora kuti iyi blog ndeye expats uye vashanyi vanogara pano kana kuenda kuzororo kuThailand. Kune vazhinji vedu, kunyanya kupihwa zera redu, hapana nzira yekudzokera.
    Cor van Kampen.

    • Chris de Boer anoti kumusoro

      Anodiwa Mr van Kampen,
      Nyika ino zvechokwadi haizadzise zviyero zvekuMadokero zvehutongi hwejekerere nehutongi hwakanaka. Nekudaro, zvakare hazvina kunaka kushandisa aya maitiro ekuMadokero. Kudai vaThai vaizoshandisa mipimo yavo kuNetherlands kana kuti Belgium, vangangoshandisawo mashoko akadai sokuti 'akaora' pavanoona kuti vana vakura havachengeti vabereki vavo asi 'vanovachengeta' mumisha inochengeterwa vakwegura, kuti isu vanhu havashande vachiri kupa mari, kuti tinobvumira kutengeswa kwezvinodhaka mune zvinonzi zvitoro zvekofi, kuti tinoita majee nezvemhuri yehumambo kana kuti unoda mvumo, zvibvumirano uye mapepa ezvese zvaunoda kuita.
      Thailand yakasiyana. Kana iwe ukaenzanisa zvinhu zvakanaka zvekuMadokero neThailand, unogona kutenga tikiti rendege kudzokera kunyika yako nhasi. Kana iwe ukaenzanisa zvinhu zvakanaka zveThailand nezvakaipa zvekumadokero, iwe uchagara pano zvachose. Munhu wese anofanira kuzvitsvagira ega chiyero.
      Chris

      • Tino Kuis anoti kumusoro

        Ndakanga ndine mhosva yekuenzanisa Thailand neNetherlands munguva yakapfuura. Izvo hazvina musoro zvachose.
        Chandiri mutsigiri mukuru wenheyo yehukoshi hwepasi rose, idzo dziri kana kuti dzinofanira kufanana kune vese vepanyika. Tese tinoda hutongi hwejekerere uye hutongi hwakanaka. Kutarisira vabereki vako nevana vako zvakanakawo zvinokosha. Kuitira mumwe wako mutsa ndeimwewo. Hapana kana nyika inombowana kukwana mukutsvaga hunhu uhu, panogara paine chekutsoropodza.
        Vese Thais vanoda demokrasi yakajeka uye hutongi hwakanaka. Vazhinji veThai vakarwira izvi uye vamwe vakazvibhadharira nehupenyu hwavo. Chinokosha ndechekuti iwe unoziva izvo zvakakosha uye uvavarire ivo muhupenyu hwako hwezuva nezuva. Dzimwe nguva zvinoshanda uye dzimwe nguva hazviiti, uye hatifanirwe kuita nharo dzakawanda pamusoro pazvo.
        Ngatiregei kugara tichienzanisa Thailand neNetherlands. Ziva hunhu hwako uye ita chimwe chinhu navo, pano uye izvozvi!

  5. maarten anoti kumusoro

    Rusvingo rwese rwemavara kutsanangura kuti huwori chii uye kuti hwakatekeshera muThailand. Chokwadi tinogona kufunga kuti izvi zvinozivikanwa? Nenzira, zvinhu zvinoshata mumutsara wekutanga, nekuti huwori hwakanaka kana hwakaipa yaive nguva pfupi yadarika hurukuro huru paThailand blog. Izvozvo hazvifaniri kudaro, asi kunoratidzika kuva kune chikamu chevaverengi chakanyatsosimbiswa zvokuti chiitiko chehuori chakarumbidzwa.

    Ndinotya kuti ndinogona kutotsanangura zvinoteedzana nezvehuwori nehurumende:
    - Mumapurojekiti makuru, 30% kana kupfuura inoramba iri panjodzi.
    - Huwori mukati mehurumende hunoshanda sehurongwa hwakarongeka.
    -Iyo yakajairwa yeThai inobatwa neizvi nekuti mari iyi haisati yashandiswa veruzhinji.
    -Zvisinei, Thais akajairwa haazvione izvi uye saka haapikisa huori.
    – Huwori huri kuramba huchienderera mberi pasina chinovhiringwa uye hwave kukanganisa budiriro yenyika.

    Zvinonzwisa urombo kuti mubvunzo wakamuka "Ndeipi mhinduro chaiyo, inoenderera?" haisati (ichiri) yapindurwa. Ndizvo zvazvinenge zvaita pakupedzisira. Asi pamwe ini ndanyanya pragmatist uye handina kukwana zvedzidzo.

  6. HenkW anoti kumusoro

    Nyaya inorema, yakanaka. Asi zvinotanga nefaindi inobhadharwa mutengo wakakwana. Ndinofunga izvi zvakawedzeredzwa. Kuseka uye tsika uye kushamwaridzana kunofadza kunorasika zvachose kana iwe ukabata nehuori 'hwese' nenzira iyi. (Munyika ipi iyo nzira dzinouya dzinopfuura pamberi pako, tendeuka pamberi pako uye rega iwe upfuure, chero bedzi iwe uchiteerera? Zvinoda kuchenjerera.) Ndinovimba kuti chiito hachizove chakanyanya kuoma muThailand. Kana ukasapfeka helmeti unofanira kubhadhara zvobva zvaita.Nehurombo, izvi zvinobva zvawedzera kudhura nekudzokorora. Kana zvakanga zvakaipa, vakuru vakuru vacho pachavo vaipfekawo ngowani, kunyanya kana vakatakura vana vavo pa moped. Rega izvi zvinosetsa zveThai zvirambe zviripo. Paunenge wave 5 km kubva kuChiangmai, hapana ane hanya kana wakapfeka ngowani. Ndinovimba hazvizombofi zvakaita kuNetherlands kwaunotongerwa rufu nekusabhadhara faindi. Ndoda kuita huori hwemupurisa hwekusapfeka nguwani.

    • Chris anoti kumusoro

      Zvakare muNetherlands unogona kutaura nemukuru nezve tikiti, hongu kana kwete (mamiriro ekunze, majee, kupisa kana kudziya mamiriro ekunze, nezvimwewo, nezvimwewo). Asi mupurisa haakumbire mari kuti asakunyorerai pasi. Uye kana ukapa mupurisa mari, unoenda kuchiteshi wopihwa faindi yechipiri yekuedza kupa mupurisa chiokomuhomwe. Uye zvakakodzera kudaro.
      Ini handina kumbobvira ndapa chiokomuhomwe, kushungurudza kana kukanganisa chero munhu muno muThailand. Patronage dzimwe nguva haidzivisiki uye nekuti iwe uri mutorwa dzimwe nguva unobatsirwe, dzimwe nguva unoshaiswa mukana. Hwakadaro hupenyu, kwandiri muno muThailand, weThais muNetherlands.

      Chris

      • HenkW anoti kumusoro

        Haukwanise kufananidza sekuru mupurisa nemupurisa wepano. Uye zvirokwazvo kwete muhoro wake. Uye kana ndichifanira kupa 200 baht kuona zvisingaonekwe, zvinoratidza mamiriro acho. Ndinovimba anoita chimwe chinhu nezvazvo nemhuri yake. Inyika yemvura yakadzika uye nzvimbo dzakadzika, asi imwe yandinonzwira tsitsi uye ndinoda zvakanyanya.

  7. Jeffery anoti kumusoro

    Chris,

    nyaya inofadza.
    tinofanira kuita zvimwe zvinyorwa zvakadai.
    Inopa nzwisiso yakadzama mutsika yeThai.

  8. HansNL anoti kumusoro

    Panjodzi yekupomerwa rusarura kana ini ndichitobatsira chero chinhu.

    Ini ndinofunga isu tinonyanyozivikanwa nezveboka revanhu riri kutonga kunenge kwese kwese muThailand.

    Munyika yakabva, "kusvina" kwave kuri "bhizinesi" fomu kwezviuru zvemakore, pasina kusvina hapana bhizinesi.

    Uku ndiko kunobva huwori muThailand nedzimwe nyika uko boka revanhu rinotaurwa nezvaro rine simba.

    Nonsense?
    Kusarura?

    Akaundendi wangu muNetherlands akanga ari mukadzi wechiChina wechienzi zvikuru.
    Aigara achindiudza mafambiro ari kuita zvinhu pakati peboka iri revanhu muNetherlands nekumwewo.
    Unoda kuendesa mari kune vamwe, kumba kana kunze kwenyika?
    Hapana bhanga rinobatanidzwa.
    Kusvina itsika mukati menharaunda iyi yakatekesherawo muNetherlands.
    Nenzira, inonyatsozivikanwa kumapurisa uye vatongi

    Sekuona kwangu, vashandi vehurumende nevezvematongerwo enyika vanoita zvehuwori matsotsiwo zvawo.

  9. Peter anoti kumusoro

    Huwori tinohuvenga tese, asi kana tichihuda tose tinohushandisa. Mhedziso yangu, huwori hwakaipa, asi dzimwe nguva hunobatsira.

  10. cor verhoef anoti kumusoro

    “Tese tinozvidza huwori, asi patinohuda tose tinohushandisa.”

    Petro, nokuda kwaMwari. Isu? Taura zvako kwete ini. Ndatenda.

  11. Theo Hua Hin anoti kumusoro

    Zvakare muItaly, uko maitiro ese aya akagadzirwa uye anogona kupfupikiswa pasi pezita rekuti Mafia, nzanga yakavakirwa zvachose pane iyi 'kurarama uye rega urarame' system. Izvo zvakatungamira kune akati wandei anoshamisa maficha mafirimu uye TV akateedzana, chimwe chinhu chine urombo - kugomera - hachife chakaitika muThailand. Thais saka haazombowana mukana wekuzvitarisa ivo pachavo.

    Bhawa rangu diki rinobhadhara 4000 baht pamwedzi kumadhipatimendi akasiyana emapurisa zvikasadaro tinofanira kuvhara na12 o'clock. Inoshanda kune ese mabhawa hongu. Mapurisa anobata mamiriyoni mwedzi woga woga. Izvi tinozvidaidza kuti zvakajairika. Mari iyi inogoverwa kuvashandi vehurumende kubva kumusoro kusvika pasi. Zvichida zvakare kubata neblackmailing, Chris? Wedzera iyi data kusvika padanho renyika !!!

  12. Peter anoti kumusoro

    Ndinotya kutaura kuti munhu wese anobhadhara kana zvichidikanwa kuita kuti mavhiri epamutemo atendeuke nekukurumidza, kana chimwe chinhu chakadaro. Kunyange kana iwe usingazivi ukapinda mumatambudziko, uye iwe unogona kuzvitenga, unozvitenga.
    Wakambopinda mutsaona yakakomba, Cor, saka iwe unofara kuti iwe unogona kutenga nzira yako yekubuda (kunyangwe iwe usina mhosva), uye chero munhu anotaura zvinopesana anonyepa !!!

    • HansNL anoti kumusoro

      Ndine rombo rakanaka rekuti handifanire kubhadhara mapurisa, kunyanya mudhorobha rangu, kana ndawana tikiti.
      Zvakadaro, ini handishandise sarudzo iyoyo, mafaindi maviri andakambopihwa akabhadharwa, kunyangwe wekupedzisira akatora nhamburiko.

      Kukurumidzisa zviito zvekutonga, nezvimwewo hazvindibhadharirewo chinhu, zvinongoitika zvoga.
      Uye kana ndikazvida kana kusazvida, zvinongoitika.
      Uye hongu, ndinonyara kana ndangounzwa pamberi, nhamba mumaoko.

      Ndinozvidza hurongwa uhu.
      Uye ini handizvishandise, kunyangwe ndisingakwanisi kuzvidzivirira nguva dzose nekuda kwemhuri,
      Saka Peter, handisi kunzwa kutaurirwa.

      • Peter anoti kumusoro

        Kukurumidzisa zviito zvekutonga, nezvimwewo hazvindibhadharirewo chinhu, zvinongoitika zvoga.
        Uye kana ndikazvida kana kusazvida, zvinongoitika.
        Uye hongu, ndinonyara kana ndangounzwa pamberi, nhamba mumaoko.

        Hans
        Saka iwe unoishandisa !! Kana kuti unogara wakagara kusvika nguva yako yakwana maererano nenhamba yako????

  13. cor verhoef anoti kumusoro

    @Peter,

    Ini muhupenyu hwangu handisati ndambonzi ndinonyepa nemunhu asingandizivi zvachose.
    Aiwa, rombo rakanaka handina kumbobvira ndapinda mutsaona yakakomba, asi ndinoziva vanhu vakambosangana nazvo. Kambani yeinishuwarenzi yaibata zvinhu zvose zvakanaka.
    Rega ndikubvunze mubvunzo wehana. Fungidzira uri mudzidzisi uye Boom akafoira bvunzo dzako sedombo. Boom ane baba vakapfuma vanokufonera mushure mechinguva ndokubvunza kana ungada kushandura giredhi ravo kuita gumi ne100.000 baht. Ungazviita here? Ndapota pindurai chokwadi.

    • HansNL anoti kumusoro

      Kor,

      Ngatiti iwe uri mudzidzisi uye Tak akafoira nekuda kwegiredhi rakashata.

      Pa Tak anofona kana kuuya uye anobvunza nemoyo munyoro kana paine chingagadziriswe kune mashoma egumi mabhaht manotsi.

      Uri kuitei ipapo?

      Uye unoita sei kana iwe uchiziva kuti Pa Tak inogona kukuparadza kana iwe ukasagamuchira ruoko?

    • Chris anoti kumusoro

      Ini ndiri mudzidzisi payunivhesiti uye ndine vana (vakanyanya) vabereki vakapfuma uye kunyange ane mukurumbira Thais (vezvematongerwo enyika, vaimbi) mukirasi yangu. Kana ndava nechikwata chitsva chevadzidzi (vandisati ndamboona) ndinojekesa kuti kana vakafoira havafanire kudaidza baba kana mai kana sekuru kana mbuya nekuti havachinji giredhi rakafoira. Nzira chete yekushandura poindi ndeyekuwana zvibodzwa zvepamusoro pabvunzo inotevera. Mwedzi miviri yapfuura ndakabata vana vechikoro vaviri ve4th year vachibiridzira. Ivo havasi kupedza gore rino uye ini handina kana dambudziko navo (kana network yavo). Asi ndakazvijekesa kare pandimire.
      Chris

      • Chris Bleker anoti kumusoro

        Best namesake, Haha...unonyora zvinoyevedza, uye zvinonzwikawo zvakanaka Haha, ndiwe wakasarudzika,... vazhinji (vese) vadzidzisi vanodzingwa nemaitiro akadai.

        • Chris anoti kumusoro

          Wadiwa Chris.
          Sezvineiwo, INI HANDISI wakasarudzika. Ziva kubva kune vaunoshanda navo (wekunze UYE Thai) kuti izvi zvinoitika kazhinji uye kwete muyunivhesiti yangu chete. Chimwe chinhu chiri kuchinja kumayunivhesiti uye kune zvirinani, nematanho madiki, asi ndinovakoshesa. Ndinozviona ndine rombo rakanaka kuti network yangu ndeyemhando yepamusoro uye ine simba kupfuura yemutungamiriri wangu. Handisati ndafanira kushandisa izvozvo. Kushanda pano hakusi kuita basa rako chete asiwo kutamba nesimba.
          vamwe Chris

          • RonnyLadPrao anoti kumusoro

            Wadiwa Chris,
            Unonyora:
            “Ndinozviona sendine rombo rakanaka kuti network yangu ndeyemhando yepamusoro uye ine simba kupfuura yemukuru wangu. Handisati ndafanira kushandisa izvozvo. Kushanda pano hakusi kwekuita basa rako chete, asiwo nezvekutamba nesimba. "

            Ndiwo mashandiro azvinoita, hongu.

            Asi rimwe zuva uchasangana navo zvakadaro.
            Vana / mhuri kana vana / mhuri yeshamwari dzepedyo dzemukuru wetiweki anenge ari mukirasi yako / chikoro / yunivhesiti.
            Iwe unotaura nezve "yangu" network, saka izvi zvinosanganisira zvisungo, uye iwe zvechokwadi uchayeuchidzwa nezve izvi kana zvichidikanwa.
            Iwe unogona zvechokwadi kuve mutambi wechikwata akanaka uye kutarisira mamiriro acho kuitira kuti zvigadziriso zvisazoitwa mushure.
            Zvikasadaro, iwe zvechokwadi uchasvika pakuziva simba rekutamba retiweki yako.
            Ndizvo zvinoita....

            • Chris anoti kumusoro

              Wadiwa Ronnie,
              Izvo hazvishande nenzira iyo muThailand. Manetiweki haakuyeuchidze zvekuita. Iwe unofanirwa kutora mararamiro akasiyana neawaijaira kuNetherlands. Pandakagara muNetherlands, handina kumbobvira ndaunza zvipo kune vandaishanda navo pandakaenda kuzororo kana kuti kune bhizimisi kunze kwenyika. Ini ndinozviita izvozvi nekuti wese munetwork yangu anoita izvozvo futi. Asi kana ukasadaro, hapana munetwork yako achakuyeuchidza. Hausi munhu kwaye.
              Zvechokwadi ndinofanira kutarisana nekuedza patronage. Zvisinei, kana ini (kana mudzimai wangu) tichigamuchira zvipo zvatinofunga kuti hazvisi zvenguva dzose (zvidzitiro zveTV, goridhe) tinozvidzorera - zvechokwadi nechikonzero kuitira kuti mupi arege kurasikirwa. (hazvienderani nemukati medu, tatova nazvo, hatizvidi, zvichida mumwe munhu angafara nazvo) kana kuti tinokumbira kuti zvakanaka here kuti tipe vamwe vanoda zvakanyanya. Isu tinokoshesa zvakanyanya kune yedu yekuzvimiririra uye rusununguko rwekutaura nekufunga zvatinoda pane zvinhu zvenyama. Kana iwe ukaenderera mberi neizvi kwemwedzi yakati wandei, kuedza kwekutsigira kunomira. Uye kana iwe ukakwanisa kuratidza kuti iwe unohwina iyo Thai lottery mavhiki maviri ega ega uye kuti imhaka yekuti unoedza kuve munhu akanaka (uye asina uori), munhu wese achakutenda.
              Chris

              • RonnyLadPrao anoti kumusoro

                Hongu, hongu - ndinozviziva - munhu wese anozviita asi isu hatidaro.

                Iniwo ndinohwina lotto mavhiki maviri ega ega. Ingotenga matikiti zana kubva pa100 kusvika pa00.
                Ipapo zvirokwazvo ndichahwina rotari, uye ndinogona kuratidza izvozvo, asi kana ndahwina chimwe chinhu.
                Kuhwina lottery mavhiki ega ega e2 uye kuita purofiti iwe pachako kunoda kunyengedza uye ruzivo rwepamberi, asi kwete nekuti uri kuedza kuve murume akanaka.
                Kana naMai Theresa vaisagona kudaro.
                Kunze kwezvo, ndaifunga kuti vanhu vakanaka havabheje nekuti hachisi chinhu chadhiabhorosi - rotari...
                (Ini handisi mbiru inovava).

                Zvakanaka, ndichazvisiya zvakadaro ndofunga yangu nzira nezvazvo….

                • Chris anoti kumusoro

                  mhoro Ronny,
                  hongu, vamwe vanhu havadi kuzvitenda. Mukadzi wangu aizoti: kusvika kwauri. Zvisinei, vagari veimba yangu yekondomu vanofara nesu zvikuru. Isu hatisi chakavanzika chenhamba dzatinotenga uye dzimwe nguva zvinoreva kuti vamwe vanohwinawo (kana vakatenga nhamba imwechete yerotari hongu).
                  Isu tinotenga avhareji ye1200 baht = gumi nemaviri matikiti erotari mavhiki maviri ega ega. Uye vane mibairo mavhiki maviri ega ega. Imwe nguva 12, imwe nguva 2000 baht, mwedzi miviri yapfuura kamwe 8000 baht. Nekutsvagisa kwandakaita, handina kuzvitenda pakutanga, asi ndinofanira kubvuma kuti - nekutenda mumitemo ye stochastic probability calculation - ndinoshamiswa nguva dzese. Iye zvino ndadzidza kuti pane zvakawanda pakati pedenga nenyika kupfuura maonero ekuMadokero esainzi (uye kusarura kwakadai sekugadzirisa uye ruzivo rwekare). Iwe uchiri kufanira kuziva, ndinonzwisisa kubva pamhinduro yako.
                  Ndozvisiyawo zvakadaro. Imwe dhirowa mangwana, saka PRIZE!!!
                  Chris

      • Ruud NK anoti kumusoro

        Chris, Svondo rapfuura pakanga paine koramu naVoronai muBP inosunganidza zvakanyanya nemusoro wakapihwa. Muenzaniso unopiwawo paunotsanangura nezvekubiridzira pabvunzo.
        Mune mumwe muenzaniso, kubiridzira kunowanikwa panguva yebvunzo. Izvi zviri kugadziriswa nemazvo.
        Pashure pacho, munhu akawana chitsotsi chacho anobvunzwa kuti nei achiona. Nekuti ndiro raive basa rangu ndosaka ndakariona.
        Yaisava mhinduro yaaida, nekuti akanga azviona nei. Izvo zvaive zvakakosha !!! Aifanira kunge akavhara maziso ake. Akazopiwa zano rekuti atore 7 days off nekuti mhuri yekwamudhara yainge ichiri nedambudziko naye.

  14. Peter anoti kumusoro

    Cor zvizere YES, Sezvaunonyora, baba vaBoom vakapfuma. Chidzidzo chinokurumidza muThailand kwauri. Mari isimba, baba vaBoom vanogona kuita hupenyu hwako gehena, ukaramba baba vaBoom vanorasikirwa nechiso, uye nditende, hapana chinosemesa semupfumi weThai anorasikirwa nechiso nekuda kwefalang, anoda kugara pano ini. zvisiye zvakadaro.

    • cor verhoef anoti kumusoro

      Peter, makorokoto. Kana iwe ukambonyora nyaya yegibberish nezvematambudziko muThailand, ndinogona kukuudza kuti iwe uri chikamu chedambudziko.

      • Peter anoti kumusoro

        Cor, urikuita kunge ndiri kutora 100.000 iyoyo kuti uwane mari, kwete Cor, ini ndiri kunamatira kuhupenyu. Hupenyu hwangu hwakakosha kudarika misimboti!!

  15. Leo Eggebeen anoti kumusoro

    Hungu, yakatsanangurwa zvakanaka kwazvo! Izvi zvinoshanda pasi rose. Tinofanira kurangarira kuti huwori ndihwo hutongi munyika uye nyika dzisina kudaro ndidzo dzinosiya. Huwori zvichida chingori chinhu chevanhu uye chisingaperi here?!

    • cor verhoef anoti kumusoro

      I can't wait, Leo, kusvika waita huori. Iwe nemhuri yako pamunodonha nepazambuko nekuti rakavakwa nesamende yanga yakachipa, uye kubva pairi chikamu che20% chakatambirwa nevezvematongerwo enyika veko uye mari yakatorwa kubva mumari yevateresi nemurume iyeye. Chimbofunga nezvazvo. Unomboverenga pepanhau here?

      • Ruud NK anoti kumusoro

        Cor, mhinduro yako kuna Leo yakaoma, asi ndeyechokwadi. Ukatarisa kwakakupoteredza unozviona kwese uye hazvisi zvidiki.

  16. Tucker anoti kumusoro

    Moderator: Mhinduro yako yakawandisa.

  17. Dr. anoti kumusoro

    Vanodiwa vaverengi vethalandblog. Ndanga ndichiuya kune ino blog mazuva ese kwechinguva ikozvino kuti nditevere zviri kuitika muThailand. Sezvineiwo, ndakatoenda kuThailand kakawanda, uye ndichagara ikoko zvachose mukati memakore mashoma, sechikamu chemudyandigere wangu wakandikodzera. Asi munhu akasarudzika anoda kuziva chimwe chinhu nezveThailand, kana achiverenga zvimwe zvinyorwa uye maitiro, anongowana fungidziro yekuti zvese zviripo zvine chekuita nehuwori, hunyengeri uye kunyange kutya hupenyu hwake, zvichikonzera kuti vashanyi vakati wandei vanoenda kune dzimwe nzvimbo. kutarisa kumusoro. Sezvinobvumwa, zvimwe zvinhu hazvibvumirwi. Asi chikonzero hachiziri mukati medu isu, kazhinji, pasina anongedza chero munhu pachedu? Muenzaniso chete pamusoro pemudzidzi nababa vake vakapfuma. Kudai ndaiva munzvimbo yemudzidzisi iyeye, handaimbobvuma chero chinhu kubva kuna baba kuti vape mwanakomana wavo poindi iri nani, asi kuti mwanakomana wacho aigona kutorazve bvunzo mukati menguva yakatarwa. Yeuka kuti kurasikirwa kwababa kwechiso hakuregi pamapfudzi emudzidzisi, uye mudzidzi ane mhosva yeizvi. Uku kungotaura muchidimbu nezvemuenzaniso. Pandinenge ndiri muThailand, ndinoomerera kune yakatarwa mitemo. Nenzira, isu tinofanira kuuyawo pano? Isu tiri, uye ticharamba tiripo, vatorwa, zvisinei kuti unozviona sei. Kunze kwezvo, hurumende iripo inoziva kuti ndiwe ani kana uri munyika yavo. Iva nechokwadi, kunyange iwe usingavaoni "ivo", vanonyatsoziva kuti ndiwe ani. Uye nditende, maitiro aunozvibata, ndiwo mabatiro avanokuita. Ndinotaura kubva pane zvakaitika. Ndakanga ndisiri kurevesa ipapo, asi munhu wenharaunda imwe chete. Ndakanga ndamboenda kune mukuru weimmigration kuti awane vhiza yechitambi. Murume iyeye akanditsanangurira nemutsa zvakanga zvichiitika. Hapana kunetseka nekugeza pasi pekaunda. Akanyatsotevedzera mitemo ndokuenda kuMalaysia zuva raitevera kunotora chitambi. Makafamba zvakanaka. Mukadzi nevana vanofara uye munhu wese anofara. Kumba kwedu kuThailand, sirogani inoti: zvatisina kuita nhasi, tichazviita mangwana...... kana zvichibvira. ……. kana zvisiri…… maj pen raj. Sawadeekhap.

  18. Jack anoti kumusoro

    Zvigunwe zveDutch zvakare zvakare zvakakwirira mumhepo. Pane kuwanda kwekutongwa nekutongwa kuri kuitika.
    Uye senguva dzose, nyika haina dema uye chena asi izere nemavara kana akawanda mimvuri yegrey. Ndakachengetawo zororo nokupa mushandi mari uye pane imwe nhambo ndakakwanisa kufamba nendege yakazara nokupa chiokomuhomwe.
    Ndakabhadharawo matiketi akaderedzwa kuburikidza nechiokomuhomwe.
    Kuti chakanaka kana chakaipa hazvina basa. Iwe uchawana zvakawanda munguva pfupi nekupa zvimwe zvishoma ...

  19. Chris Bleker anoti kumusoro

    Zvigunwe zvangu zvinokwenya,...pfungwa dzangu dzinoti,...usadaro, asi zvigunwe!!!! Ndinofanira kupomera izvozvo, nekuti iwe unofanirwa kukwanisa kupa mhosva chimwe chinhu kana mumwe munhu.
    Maonero ehuori,….tsanangudzo yakazara pamusoro pe,…chii!!! uori, munhu wese anoziva... chakanaka kana chakaipa,... munhu wese anoziva... kuti ruoko rwake rworuboshwe chii uye kuti ruoko rworudyi chii uyezve imwe tsananguro haidiwi.
    Asi huwori huri muvanhu, sekureva nhema,… kunyangwe “manyepo machena”
    Munyika ye "kunyemwerera" ndiko kunyemwerera kunogadzirisa zvese kunze, kumadokero "kunyarara"
    Ipapo iva nesimba… nezvechimwe chinhu uye nenyika “inoti nyika yedu.” Asi kwete nezvenyika yatino“tenderwa”.

  20. thallay anoti kumusoro

    Handinzwisise kuti sei farang achinyanya kutarisisa kune hunonzi huwori muThailand. Zvinhu hazvina kunyanya kusiyana munyika yedu. Vezvematongerwo enyika vakakundikana vanopihwa mabasa anofadza, vanoridza muridzo vanobatwa semakonzo, vatungamiri vemabhanga vanowana bhonasi yakakurisa kana vakarega bhanga richipera simba uye hurumende (mubhadharisi) anofanira kuripa, makurukota ane huori anowana basa rakanaka mushure mekuita kwavo. basa, maneja ebhanga ane huori anowana basa rakanaka nehurumende kana EU, unoripa zita. Ikoku sezviri pachena kunogamuchirwa kwose noWokuMadokero, uyo anowira pamupurisa anoda kuwana mari yekofi yokuwedzera muhoro wake muduku. Zvichengete, ndingadaro. Uye kana usingazvifarire pano, chingodzokera kumba, nechiokomuhomwe chiduku chinogadziriswa pasina nguva uye unenge wadzorera zvose sezvazvaiva kare.

    • Chris anoti kumusoro

      zvakanaka….wadiwa Thallay..
      Ini ndinofunga kuti vatorwa vekuMadokero muThailand vane hanya nemhando dzese dzemaitiro akadai sechiokomuhomwe, nhema, kutsigira nehuwori nekuti, mukupesana nezviitiko zvaunotaura muNetherlands, izvi zvakashata, zvisiri pamutemo maitiro muThailand:
      - kuve akarongeka muhurumende nebhizinesi;
      -Vanhu veThai vatinoda vanofanirwa kubata nazvo nenzira isina kunaka MAZUVA OSE;
      - vanoita sevasingagoneki;
      - vepamusoro munyika ino vanochengeta vamwe vanhu varombo uye mapenzi;
      - iyo inonzi democratic control iri mumaoko evakuru ava;
      -kuridza muridzo kunopesana netsika dzeThai;
      - vepamusoro vanovharawo kuwana ruzivo uye kufunga kwakadzama kwevarombo;
      - iyo NYIKA YOSE naizvozvo haisi kuita kufambira mberi kwaingaita (kwete kunyange kune vagara vakapfuma vasingazivi izvi nekuda kwekufunga kwenguva pfupi uye ziso rekutsvaga mari nokukurumidza);
      - nyika ino ingangove murombo semhedzisiro (dzimwe nyanzvi dzehupfumi dzinofanotaura kuti Thailand ndiyo Myanmar yeramangwana)
      - tarenda rakawanda renjere rinorasika semugumisiro uye pamwe chete naro mufaro wevanhu;
      - hatisi kutsvaga mhirizhonga yakakurumbira yekumukira ichitevera muenzaniso weNepal. (Kurwira masimba mubato reRed Shirts kuri kuenderera mberi)

      Ndichasimbisa dzimwe dzenharo idzi mumipiro yangu inotevera.
      Chris

      • Chris Bleker anoti kumusoro

        Moderator: kana iwe usisade mhinduro, haufanirwe kuzvipindura iwe nekuti iko kutaura.

  21. Tea kubva kuHuissen anoti kumusoro

    Mune maonero angu akazvininipisa, musiyano uri neThailand neNetherlands.
    MuThailand zvese zvinoonekwa zvakanyanya pazvinoitika (huori).
    Uye muNetherlands tinoziva kuti zvinoitika (kuseri kwezviitiko).
    Asi mune zvese zviri zviviri Jan ane heti ndiye akabatwa.


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