Svondo rapfuura makore mana apfuura apo Johan van Laarhoven (57) akasungwa kuPattaya akapedzisira ave mujeri rekuThailand. Iyo Brabants Dagblad yakagadzira patsva nyaya iri kuchengeta vanhu vakabatikana. Sekureva kwebepanhau, vatongi veDutch vanotamba kanenge basa risinganzwisisike mukumhanya kwekusungwa kwake.
Muna 2015, Van Laarhoven akatongerwa makore zana nematatu mujeri nemhosva yekubira mari yaakawana kubva kumashopu ake mana ekofi (maviri muTilburg, maviri kuDen Bosch). Mudzimai wake wekuThai Tukta akawana makore gumi nemaviri, kunyangwe aive asina chekuita nenyaya yese. Makore maviri gare gare, mitongo yavo yakaderedzwa pakukwidzwa kusvika kumakore 103 nemakore manomwe nemwedzi mina. Van Laarhoven anofanira kushanda makumi maviri pamakore makumi manomwe nemashanu.
Gerard Spong, gweta raJohan, anonyora nezvenyaya yacho kuti: “Johan muridzi wechitoro chekofi akawana mari yakaenzana nemvumo yokushivirira mameya eDutch uye akabhadhara mutero pairi, asi iye zvino ari kuorera muchitokisi cheThai muBangkok chibvumirano pakati pemukuru weDutch wezvemitemo chisina kunaka uye Thai Public Prosecution Service. "
Kuvakwazve kweBrabants Dagblad kwakanyorwa zvichienderana nemishumo yezvapupu zvekunzwa mudare muThe Hague nemamwe magwaro kubva mufaira. Verenga chinyorwa pano: www.bd.nl/tilburg/highway-to-hell-hoe-johan-van-laarhoven-in-de-thaise-bajes-belandde~aab372ad/
Gerard Sprong anoti: akawana mari uye akabhadhara mutero.
Haatauri kuti haisi mari YESE yakatemerwa mutero, uye ndizvo zvazviri.
Akatongerwa kuThailand nemari yaasina kubhadhara mutero.
Dai akabhadhara mutero wose wakakodzera muNetherlands, angadai asina kutongerwa mhosva yekubira mari muThailand.
Angave akadzingwa nokuti akanga atengesa zvinodhaka muNetherlands uye naizvozvo akanga asingagamuchirwi muThailand, asi angadai asina kuiswa mujeri.
Uye mudzimai wake akabatsira kuendesa mari kuhama, saka haana mhosva.
Iwe wakanyatsofunga here kuti dhipatimendi rekutonga reThai rinosunga vanhu vechiDutch avo "vakakanganwa" kubhadhara chikamu chemari yavo mumitero?
Netherlands yakatungamirira nemaune vatongi veThai kuti vadavire kuti uyu wakanga uri mutengesi mukuru wezvinodhaka.
Dai Thailand yaizosunga munhu wese akanganwa kuzivisa mari yake yese kuvakuru vemitero, zvaizonyarara mumigwagwa mune mamwe maguta muThailand.
Moderator: Ndokumbira upe kwaunobva chirevo chako.
Muchikamu chakapfuura chaVan Laarhoven, mutauri akataura kuti kugara hakuna kukosha sezvo kuba mari imhosva yekuyambuka muganhu.
Zvechokwadi, inofanira kunge iri iyo iyo mari yakawanikwa zvisiri pamutemo kana kuburikidza nekubiridzira uye kusvika ikozvino mari yakawanikwa zviri pamutemo pasi pemutemo weDutch.
Saka ndinoda kutaura nezveAnti-Money Laundering Act BE 2542 Chikamu 6(1) http://unpan1.un.org/intradoc/groups/public/documents/APCITY/UNPAN019171.pdf
Nechekuita nenyaya iyi, mutongi akatonga kuti mari yaiwana kubva mukutengesa cannabis (yakarambidzwa pasi pemutemo weDutch asi inoshivirirwa nemutero wemutero zvakare) uye mukuona kwangu zvaifanira kuita nekugara kwake kubva 6(2) uye 6( 3) usashandise shandisa.
Nekuda kweiyo mutemo unoshamisa wekushivirira, mari inowanwa ndeye nhema maererano nemutemo weThai uye chena maererano nemutemo wechiDutch.
MuNetherlands, chaiva chido chePublic Health kuva nezvitoro zvekofi kuitira kuti hutano huve huri nani hunodzorwa uye paizova nekusiyanisa kwakajeka pakati pemishonga yakaoma uye yakapfava.
Yakanga iri bhonasi yakanaka iyo vatongi vemitero vaigona kuunganidza (mari) mutero kubva kune vashandi, vashandi uye nevashanyi vakawanda vakauya kuNetherlands nokuda kwechiitiko ichi.
Iyo ine simba yePublic Prosecution Service uye, mukumuka kwavo, Dhipatimendi reJustice, kune rumwe rutivi, vanohwanda kuseri kwemitemo yeUN, iyo yava kuzivikanwa zvino kuti nyika yega yega yakasununguka kutonga zviri pamutemo sora nenzira yayo, seCanada, Uruguay, nyika dzakasiyana muUS uye muna 2019/2020 muThailand.
Uye chii chinoita NL? Makore makumi mashanu mushure mekuvhurwa kwechitoro chekutanga chekofi muNetherlands, iri muchikamu che "sora bvunzo" uye Public Prosecution Service iri zvakare kugadzira mutemo wekushivirira maererano nemafuta eCBD.
Iyo hemp yemafuta eCBD inogona kurimwa muNetherlands nekuti inowira pasi pemitemo yekusarudzika yeOpium Act. Kugadzirwa kunozoitwa kunze kwenyika seAustria, Poland neSwitzerland uye CBD inozotengeswa munzvimbo dzakaita seEtos, Kruidvat neDe Tuinen, uko Public Prosecution Service inoziva kuti haiteveri mitemo.
Ndiri kuda kubvumirana neThai; Europe yakazadzwa nevashandisi vezvinodhaka veCBD nevatengesi uye chimwe chinhu chinoda kuitwa pamusoro pazvo 😉
Mutongo wekutanga unotaura zvakajeka kuti Van L akatongerwa mhosva yekubira mari yakawanikwa kubva mukutengesa mu 'chinhu chinorambidzwa muThailand'. Hapachina. Mutongo iwoyo unowanikwa muchiDutch painternet.
Hapana panotaurwa kana L (kana kambani yake yakazvimirira) yakashuma mari iyoyo kune zviremera zvemitero kana kwete. Izvo hazvina kukosha. Uyezve, Van L akangove munhu anofungidzira mune iyo nyaya muNL.
Kana dare reThai rakatonga kaviri kuti mutemo waro ushande kumiganhu nenzira iyi zvichabuda pachena kana mutongi wecassation apa mutongo wake.
Kana iri 'hongu', saka mushandi wese wezvitoro zvekofi muNetherlands, pazororo muThailand kana nekuda kwekudyara, anogona kunyangarika kuseri kwemabhawa nekuti 'kutanza mari' kunoreva 'kudyara, kuisa mari' uye 'kushandisa' zvakare kunowira pasi peizvi. Uye ipapo iwe unogona kuzviverengera iwe rombo rakanaka: kune nyika dzinomanikidza uye kuita mutongo werufu weizvi.
Kuranga 'kuyambuka miganhu' hakuna kunyanya kuwanda; USA ine mutemo weizvi, uye nyika dzinoverengeka dzinosanganisira Netherlands dzine mutemo wekupara mhosva dzakadai sepabonde.
Zvinogonawo kujeka mucassation kuti nei paine musiyano pakati pekukosha kwezvinhu zvakabatwa.
Mushure meizvozvo, ndinotarisira kuti zvese zvichafamba nekukurumidza, sezvo muna Chikunguru 2019 1/3 yemutongo waifungwa neNL Public Prosecution Service wakapihwa.
Kana isiri iyo WOTS, dzingavewo nyasha pazuva rekuzvarwa kwamambo. Uye kune vekupedzisira, zvingave zvinobatsira hurumende kana vakatsigira chikumbiro chakadaro kana Ombudsman akauya nemafungiro asina kunaka pamusoro pemamiriro ezvinhu.
Sekuziva kwangu, kubvutwa hakusati kwasvika pakukwidzwa. Inyaya yemhosva. Ndinovimba kuti zvichazotongwa mune cassation kuti mutemo weThai haungapfuuri muganho wenyika, sezvazvakaita nenyaya dzinosanganisira pedosexuality. Asi kana zvikatongwa kuti kubira mari yezvinodhaka - HAKUNA kuwanikwa muThailand - kuchiri kurangwa muThailand, ipapo mutongo wese kana chikamu chakakosha chayo chicharamba chiripo uye chinosara cheL chichava chibvumirano chete.
Iwe haufanirwe kubira mari yawakapa kune vemitero, yatochena.
Sezvo Van Laarhoven akatongerwa mhosva yekubira mari, ndinofunga kuti izvi zvave zvichiratidzwa.
Kudai akanga akwanisa kuratidza kwaibva mari yaakauya nayo muThailand uye kuti mitero yakanga yabhadharwa pamari iyoyo, aigona kudai akaratidza kuti akanga asina mhosva.
Sezviri pachena aisagona.
Unogona kuverenga zvirinani, Ruud. Van L akabira mari yezvinodhaka muThailand uye ingave 'chena' kana 'dema', musiyano iwoyo hauna kutaurwa mumutemo. Verenga mutongo; ruvara rwemari iyoyo haruna kukurukurwa. Nezvekufungirwa kwePublic Prosecution Service, L kusvika zvino ave kungofungira; hapana mhosva, kana masamanisi…….
Quote Wikipedia: Chinangwa chekushandisa mari zvisiri pamutemo kushandisa kana kudyara zvinhu zvakawanikwa zvisiri pamutemo pasina humbowo hunoratidza kuti chaive chiri kunze kwemutemo.
Muhoro wakabvisirwa mutero zvinhu zvakatorwa zvisiri pamutemo.
Kanenge kune chikamu chakaenzana nemutero wakanzvenga.
Sekureva kwevatongi, kubirwa kwemari uku kunenge kwakaitika kuThailand, dai zvisina kudaro angadai asina kutongerwa mhosva pano.
Hazvina kukosha kana Public Prosecution Service muNetherlands yakatosvika pachibvumirano.
MuThailand, maonero emutongi weThai chete ndiwo anoverenga, uye sezviri pachena, kunyangwe magweta anodhura, akafunga kuti pakanga paine humbowo hwakakwana hwekutongerwa mhosva.
Ini handikwanise kutaura chero chinhu pamusoro pekuti pane humbowo hwakakwana here kana kwete, kana iwe haugone.
Ipapo iwe unofanirwa kuve uine iyo faira yese ine mutoro wehumbowo waunayo.
Asi sezvo kuchiratidzika kuva nemari yakawanda inowanika nokuda kwamagweta, mutoro iwoyo woufakazi hauzovi nemhepo shoma.
Ipapo inenge yadzikiswa nemagweta.
Uye kuorera mujeri hakuzonyanya kuipa kana uine mari.
Icho chokwadi chekuti murume akanakisa akawana mari yake nemutemo usina kusimba wekushivirira muNetherlands uye hunhu hwematsotsi muThailand hwatove husingafadzi. Sezvakataurwa mumablogi apfuura, aifanira kunge akagara muNetherlands uye asina kutamba pfuti huru muThailand. Maitiro iwayo haakonzeri matambudziko chero asina kuburitswa pachena. Kunyange zvazvo ini ndichiwana kuwanda kwemutongo wejeri kuseka uye zvinosuruvarisa kuti extradition inoratidzika kunge isingabviri kwenguva refu, Van Laarhoven ane zvose zvaanozvipa mhosva. Sekuona kwangu, haufanirwe kubatanidzwa neiyo mess, hauzove nemari yese iyoyo, asi handizvo zvese. Saka unoona, mhosva haipedzi nguva dzose, asi kazhinji inobhadhara. Izvo zvinozivikanwa kune wese wese kuti muNetherlands ruzhinji rwevatengesi vejunk vanonzvenga mutero. Vanhu verudzi urwu vane chekuita nekuita mari hombe nekusachengeta hutano hwevamwe vanhu, dai zvisina kudaro vangadai vakasarudza rimwe basa.
Vakuru vemitero vanobatanidzwawo. Ikoko kwakanaka here?
Ndinewo zvandinoramba pamusoro pevakuru vemitero. Hurumende yaifanira kunge yakamira kure neizvi. Mhosva uye gadzirisa. Asi hongu, sezviri pachena kwaidiwa kuburitswa kwemarara aya muNetherlands (kunze kwevashandisi vemishonga).
Nekuda kwetolerance policy, makaonawo kuti hurumende yaida kuita mari kubva pakadai, asi hongu, mari yeruzhinji inozoshandiswa kubatsira vanhu. Pakukanganisa kwese kune mukana. Kunyangwe mari yevateresi ichishandiswawo pane zvakawanda zvisina maturo semaonero angu. Denderedzwa randisingade asi sezviri pachena rinotenderwa. Ndeipi kushivirira isina kunaka.
Zvaisazorwadza kunyura zvakadzama munyaya yecannabis.
Wamunoti marara ndiwo mushonga wevazhinji wavasingachagoni kurarama nawo.
Iwe unofanirwa kutarisa painternet kuti uone kuti cannabis mafuta kana CBD mafuta inorevei kune vanhu vane Parkinson's, MS, rheumatism uye hongu, kunyangwe mamwe marudzi egomarara.
Hazvishamisi kuti indasitiri yemishonga inobata nzvimbo iri kuita zvese zvainogona kuratidza zvigadzirwa zve cannabis muchiedza chakashata, sezvo usingakwanise patent chirimwa.
Mukupera kwema70, kushandiswa kwe bong (hash pombi) kwaivewo kwakajairika.
Handizivi kana zvakanga zvisiri pamutemo panguva iyoyo, asi ndaiva nenguva yakanaka panguva iyoyo.
Wadiwa Geert, une chokwadi nezvekushandisa mushonga. I have unfairly wronging that target group with my rubbish statement, ndokumbira ruregerero. Mwanakomana wangu wegotwe aifarirawo mushandisi makore apfuura uye ndinogona kukuudza kuti zvakamurwarisa. Nokudaro kusangana kwanguzve nechinhu ichi chinoshandura pfungwa. Kune vanhu vane hutano semwanakomana wangu, izvi hazvisi-kwete uye akazviwana paakaramba achikosora nekukosora kwehusiku, muchidimbu, achichengeta mhuri yese yakamuka kwemwedzi yakati wandei uye haina kumbomira. Kusiyana nevarwere vari pakati pedu vanobatsirwa nazvo, marara aya haasi emunharaunda uye haafaniri kuonekwa uye kukudzwa seakanaka asina mhosva, pasinei nenguva yako munyika neizvi munguva yakapfuura.
Kwaive mufaro usina mhosva muchimiro chayo chemusango kudzamara kupindira kwehurwere kwehurumende neBig Pharma vatanga kuita dhimoni nekuti paive nemari yaifanira kuitwa.
Pamutemo, zvaisazofanira kunge zvichidhura kupfuura maeuro mashoma pakg uye madzinza ese aisazopindwa muropa nerunyararo rwavo rwezuva nezuva.
Mukuwedzera, ichokwadiwo kuti kuva nemwero kuri nani pane kuwandisa.
Munguva yakapfuura, vanhu vaitevera chechi nehurumende semakwai akapfava uye ndinofara kuti ichi chinhu chomunguva yakapfuura, kunyange zvazvo vamwe vakwegura vachawana ikoku kunotyisa.
Chidimbu chakanaka muBrabants Nieuwsblad. Ndiri kufara kuverenga maitiro evazhinji vakapindura vanoziva Thailand avo nerombo rakanaka vese vanoita sevasina zvitadzo.
Enda unotsanangura mutemo weDutch drug muThailand! Chinokosha ndechekuti Van L. akabhadhara mutero nekutengesa kwake zvinodhaka. Kana iwe ukatevera kufunga kwemutongi weThai, nyika yeDutch inofanirwawo kuiswa muThai tsotsi bhenji, nekuti yakaitawo mari kubva mukutengesa zvinodhaka uye saka inorangwa muThailand.
Van L. angangodaro akabatsira zvishoma, asi chero zvakadaro zvakanyanya, kuhomwe yehurumende yeDutch uye nekuda kwechikonzero ichocho, semugari weDutch, angadai akaverengera kudzivirirwa kubva kuhurumende yeDutch.
Sezvakangoita munyaya yakapoteredza mutyairi weTransavia Julio Poch, uyo akaiswa mujeri asina mhosva muArgentina kwemakore masere, dare rekutonga reDutch rakagadzirawo nemaune mugari weDutch kunze kwenyika munyaya iyi. Yasvika nguva yekuti National Ombudsman ipedze izvi - kwatiri tese - zviito zvehurumende zvine njodzi.
PS Ane iyo Olde Shatterhand kubva kuNL embassy muBangkok yakatotsanangurira hurumende yeThai kuti pfambi nevakuru vavo muNetherlands vanobhadharawo mutero? Ivo zvakare vari munjodzi huru muThailand kana vakamboenda kuzororo ikoko. Kuita zvepabonde kunorambidzwa zvachose muThailand, sezvo vaverengi vesaiti ino pasina mubvunzo vanoziva.
Muchinda iyeye anowana kutariswa zvakanyanya nevezvenhau. Ini handifanire kuziva zvizere. Chandinoziva ndechekuti anga ari muboka renyanzvi rine mumvuri, uko vazhinji vanouya vachipfuura nemusuwo wekuseri. Kururama ngakuitwe. Uye kana tichifanira kutaura nezvazvo, tinoda kutarisisa kune vamwe vanhu vechiDutch vari mumajeri eThai uye vasina mari yekuhaya magweta anodhura zvakanyanya uye kuramba tichibhomba midhiya inonaka.
Iwo mavara echiThai emutongo pane imwe nzvimbo painternet? Pasina ruzivo irworwo hazvinyatso kujeka uye mhinduro zhinji dzinobva pane 'kuverenga kana kunzwiwa kumwewo'.
Kana paine anoziva link ndapota ndiudzeiwo.
Ndakaedza zvakanyanya kutsvaga mutongo painternet uye handina kubudirira. Iri ndiro ruzivo rwandakawana:
Zita rake mumutauro wechiThai: นาย โจันเนส เปทรัส มาเริย (โยฮัน) ฟานลารโ ฮัส
Kubva kuAMLO, iyo inorwisa-mari yekubira sangano:
http://www.amlo.go.th/amlo-intranet/files/เธข_%20125-2557.PDF uye zvimwe zvishoma: pamusoro pemari inoyerera asi kwete mutongo
Zvinhu zviviri zvakanaka zvenhau.
http://www.bangkokbiznews.com/news/detail/673762
https://www.isranews.org/isranews-news/42614-103.html
Unotofanira kuenda kudare kunokumbira ikoko. Nenzira, ikozvino ndaona, handina kumbobvira ndaenda kune webhusaiti yedare.
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Aya ndiwo akanakisa, asi ane mashoma, ruzivo rwandakawana:
Waita basa Tino nekuzvitsvaga. Mitongo haizi pachena zvachose, asi gweta rinokwanisa kuiongorora nekombiyuta mudare. Ndakafunga kuti magweta aVan Laarhoven angadai akaisa mutongo painternet, asi iniwo handina kuzviwana.
Sekuverenga nekukurumidza, kwave nekutengesa kwakati kuThailand kuburikidza nemakambani akawanda munyika dzakasiyana siyana, kusanganisira Cyprus, Luxembourg, Germany neSingapore. Tichifunga nezvekubatanidzwa kweAMLO neDSI, kusungwa kunoratidzika kunge kuri mhedzisiro yekuferefeta kwakareba uye kwakadzama. Izvi zvimwe zvave zvichishandirwa kwemakore akati wandei mukubatana neNetherlands nedzimwe nyika dzakataurwa. Hazviiti sechinhu chiri nyore chekusabhadhara mitero yeDutch (yakazara), sezvinotenda vakawanda.
Ini ndinobva ndatenda kuti akakanganisa kutengeswa kwezvinodhaka, asi iwe unoda hudzvanyiriri seThailand kuti upe zvirango zvisina musoro zvakadaro. Zvinosekesa kuverenga mumhinduro kuti Thailand haina mhosva uye kuti zvese zviri kumuchuchisi weruzhinji weDutch. Hazvishamise nekuti vamwe vagari vechiDutch vekuThailand vakapfeka magirazi ezuva ane tinted zvakanyanya mushure mekumhara muBangkok uye vanoramba kuabvisa zvakare. Munyika inopesana nedemocracy iwe unogona kutarisira maitiro aya (zvichida kutsika zvigunwe) uye zvinotariswa zvinogona kunge zviri pamari yavanogona kumutorera. Chakatonyanya kuipa ndechekuti anogona kutanga mushandirapamwe wenhau uye kuwana maropafadzo nemari nepo vamwe vanhu vechiDutch vachiremerwa mutirongo pasina kutariswa kana rubatsiro.
Zvirango zvekuva uye/kana kutengesa zvinodhaka zvanga zvakakwirisa muThailand kwemakumi emakore uye hazvina chekuita nehudzvinyiriri. Zvakatosimba. Pasi pehurumende yaThaksin yedemocracy, kupambwa chaiko kwakatoitwa uye mazana evaThais (vanosvika zviuru zviviri nemazana mashanu vanonzi) vanofungidzirwa nezvekutengesa zvinodhaka vakaurayiwa pasina chero nzira yekutongwa. Vamwe vavo vangadai vakada kuva mujeri.
Mune iyi nzira yekufunga, zvinoshamisa kuti Public Prosecution Service yakaita bhizinesi nehudzvanyiriri ihwohwo. Uyezve zvimwe; mutemo wekubira mari waive watovepo muna 2000 uye pakupedzisira hapana mutsauko.
Ombudsman anotaura kuti Public Prosecution Service yaita utsvina sei uye nekudaro vezvenhau nevezvematongerwo enyika.
Izvo zvinosara kuti munhu wese, kusanganisira iwe, akasununguka kuzivisa kune vamwe vanhu vechiDutch vari mujeri reThai.
Shamwari Peter anoita kunge arasa shinda kwechinguva. Netherlands inongoda kuunganidza mitero yakawanda sezvinobvira (munyaya iyi pamusoro pekutengeswa kwezvinodhaka kwaVan L.) uye Muchuchisi wePublic sezviri pachena ane zviratidzo zvekuti Van L. haana kubhadhara zvakakwana. Anonzi akaendesa mari yake kuThailand asina kutanga abhadhara mari yakakwana kuvakuru vemitero veDutch. Ipapo anopinda muThailand, nzvimbo yake itsva yokugara. NL inonyatsoziva kuti vanhu vanofunga sei, vanotonga uye vanoshora vanhu muThailand. Kuti izvi zviitike, mahofisi anogarwa zvachose paWireless Road muBangkok. Saka Thailand haitauri: tichatumira murume uyu kuNetherlands kuti abhadhare zvikwereti zvake zvakapfuura kuNL yedu ine hushamwari, asi Thailand inomuvharira kweupenyu hwese nekuti akauya kuThailand nemari inowanikwa mukutengesa zvinodhaka, kunyangwe izvo zvaive mu Netherlands. zvemutemo uye (zvichida zvishoma) mutero wakabhadharwa pairi muNetherlands.
VeDutch Justice system - nevaibata navo/vanorwisa zvinodhaka paRoyal Dutch Embassy muBangkok - vainyatsoziva kuti Thailand yaizotora danho iroro. Ndiwo musimboti. Zvakajeka, Peter?
Ndiyo Argus, ndinofara kuti wakakwanisa kunyatsoongorora nyaya yedare reThai, kuverenga mutongo nehumbowo hwese kuitira kuti upe mhinduro ine hwaro.
Benzi reNetherlands, hongu, nekuti hapana chibvumirano cheextradition (izvi zvinozivikanwa kune Wireless Road pachayo), uye dare reThai harina mhosva nekuda kwekutadza (zvakazara) kubhadhara mutero kune dzimwe nyika, kusanganisira Netherlands.